Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 4]
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:32 am
Nutella
DFaraday
boomslang
glorfindel
turnip head
DFaraday
boomslang
glorfindel
turnip head
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I didnt say it was wrong (although it is because i am a civ dude) i said it was weak. But if you wanna keep voting me thats fineMacDougall wrote:I too am pinged by bwt. He posts short replies like a lazy scared mafioso. Not even referring to his self vote which is more or less null.
After reading further I am thinking of voting Dunny and Bass. Dunny's dropped lip reply to my last post didn't do much for me at all. Arguing that my continued suspicion is wrong simply because timr has passed. You go squish now. Bass wants to duel... and tbh he tone reads bad.
Not keen on lynching TH. Seems like a weak framejob. Probably concocted by Evil Marmot Wifombot.
Also we should lynch Darth Sloonei if y'all know what's good for you. Sloonei is always bad is so right it is a scientific law.
I've been trying to get a bead on people in the game, so I've been jumping into a few randomly chosen ISO's because frankly there is no way I can catch up on the whole thread. Sorsha, did you ever explain why you would not have voted Scotty. That gives me the impression you trusted him more than the other two prefects. DO you trust him now?Sorsha wrote:I had places to go and things to do.... I thought I'd be back to vote and intended on voting but I don't know who I would have voted for. Scotty wasn't one of the prefects I'd have voted for so I probably would have voted to save him from the duel, not that he needed it apparently. I don't know if I'd have voted for prefects at all, I wanted to see whose feathers got ruffled, it does irk me a bit that INH promised to be an active player if he was prefect an he has now vanished.Glorfindel wrote:I'm somewhat puzzled by this post of yours, Sorsha. You made this statement five hours out from EoD 1. You then proceeded to engage with (some might even say, 'antagonise') two of your potential nominees (Scotty and 3J) for the next half hour before leaving, saying that you intended to return but never did I'm just wondering, did you change your mind? You seemed rather adamant to me - if there was some doubt about you returning before the deadline, why did you not cast your vote when you had the chance?Sorsha wrote:Dom is making me laugh so I'm not voting for him.
I think I'm going to vote for two of the prefects. Jimmy, Scotty, INH... See who's the toughest.
Scotty, this post has me all kinds of uncomfortable. MM posted a list of three reads. He listed them in the normal way for a rainbow list. Top are most civ and bottom are most baddie, and they were normal colors. You were quite over the top in your response to it. The only thing that gives me pause is MM's flip. I realize that MM's list was bullsuit, but if you had come in saying, hey can you explain why you put SVS as your civ read or why you think MP is bad, that would be a response I could understand. But instead you act like you didn't know how to read a rainbow list. Which is just silliness, they have been around long for you to know how to read them.Scotty wrote:Ah, I missed that. Unfortunately, your input since you've been back is going exactly how you admit it would go.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oh hey Scotty, I posted this at the beginning.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm leaving for a camping trip soon. I'll be back on Wednesday. Peace!
And to be fair, I probably wouldn't have contributed, even if I was around.Stay tuned for more...more what? Beer? Spears? Aneurysms?Metalmarsh89 wrote:Also, my rainbow list looks something like this:
S~V~S
Turnip Head
MovingPictures07
Stay tuned for more.
What does the blue represent? Why do you suspect MP? Why anything? Why do I keep expecting you to expand upon your thoughts, knowing full well you're just gonna derp around them? Isn't that tbe definition of insanity?
You can't just post colorful words and not talk about them. Here's my rainbow list using your method:
Stalin
The Yuan Dynasty
Andy Richter
Crab People
Stay tuned for more.
Just got to this post and it makes me feel a lot better about you. This game... mehScotty wrote:Who's to say I'm not on Wilgy's team? I mean, I'm not, but why exclude that as a possibility?Russtifinko wrote:So I was gonna say this wasn't true and Scotty could still be a Yellow Turban, but then I realized he would've likely lost his duel had he been. So I'm prepared to give Scotty some civ cred barring evidence to the contrary.Turnip Head wrote:Bubbles and MM's votes smell the fishiest to me. I want to go back and investigate those.
Scotty my man, I'm sorry I ever doubted you. You are the hero we need. Please be my sensei.
I appreciate the civ label because I am, but your defense of me is slightly hollow.
I could also be anything, and just rolled better than Wilgy, so this argument is not the best way to guard my alignment.
MM's rainbow list was a joke one too. He basically listed all three site admins.Spacedaisy wrote:Scotty, this post has me all kinds of uncomfortable. MM posted a list of three reads. He listed them in the normal way for a rainbow list. Top are most civ and bottom are most baddie, and they were normal colors. You were quite over the top in your response to it. The only thing that gives me pause is MM's flip. I realize that MM's list was bullsuit, but if you had come in saying, hey can you explain why you put SVS as your civ read or why you think MP is bad, that would be a response I could understand. But instead you act like you didn't know how to read a rainbow list. Which is just silliness, they have been around long for you to know how to read them.Scotty wrote:Ah, I missed that. Unfortunately, your input since you've been back is going exactly how you admit it would go.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oh hey Scotty, I posted this at the beginning.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm leaving for a camping trip soon. I'll be back on Wednesday. Peace!
And to be fair, I probably wouldn't have contributed, even if I was around.Stay tuned for more...more what? Beer? Spears? Aneurysms?Metalmarsh89 wrote:Also, my rainbow list looks something like this:
S~V~S
Turnip Head
MovingPictures07
Stay tuned for more.
What does the blue represent? Why do you suspect MP? Why anything? Why do I keep expecting you to expand upon your thoughts, knowing full well you're just gonna derp around them? Isn't that tbe definition of insanity?
You can't just post colorful words and not talk about them. Here's my rainbow list using your method:
Stalin
The Yuan Dynasty
Andy Richter
Crab People
Stay tuned for more.
On that note, I have to stop where I am. I've got to go to work shortly. I'll try to vote before I leave or from my phone at work, I don't know.
I have no memory of this, be quiet.MovingPictures07 wrote:I said this earlier in this game, but, anyone who played Turf Wars should know that the civilians can uncover a baddie early on in the game and then derail the entire rest of the game by overanalyzing and coming to false conclusions. They continuously went after people who had strong stances on the CFD that doomed RadicalFuzz. But all 4 of his teammates weren't there for any of the CFD discussion and some of them even missed the vote.
But go ahead though, DDL, vote for me. I want to duel anyway.
Yeah Dom, that's it!Dom wrote:This is a weird assumption, folks. Why did your head go there immediately?Turnip Head wrote:My first guess is that the sockpuppet is one of those things where they gain power when people quote them. I'm going to stay away for now
Is it because you know there is one?
I agree. I think Mac is phoning it in atm.Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Also one think I just noticed: for all the meta talk about how Mac likes to pressure people and play aggressively, I don't recall seeing him do that since day 1. It's like he just attacked people enough to make people say "yep, that's the Mac we all know" then got satisfied and slipped into the shadows.
I was only in this game for a day because I was awful and got deservedly lynched. I have little memory of it.Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Lorab is playing the same way as in Watchmen, where she was twn. I like it.
Btw, since you guys were wondering, that's the game she played with Sloonei. I remember because I helped lynch you both :beer
I liked his reaction better than jjj's. He was kinda like "meh," jjj seemed to overreact imo. I trust Scotty more than some others.Spacedaisy wrote:I've been trying to get a bead on people in the game, so I've been jumping into a few randomly chosen ISO's because frankly there is no way I can catch up on the whole thread. Sorsha, did you ever explain why you would not have voted Scotty. That gives me the impression you trusted him more than the other two prefects. DO you trust him now?Sorsha wrote:I had places to go and things to do.... I thought I'd be back to vote and intended on voting but I don't know who I would have voted for. Scotty wasn't one of the prefects I'd have voted for so I probably would have voted to save him from the duel, not that he needed it apparently. I don't know if I'd have voted for prefects at all, I wanted to see whose feathers got ruffled, it does irk me a bit that INH promised to be an active player if he was prefect an he has now vanished.Glorfindel wrote:I'm somewhat puzzled by this post of yours, Sorsha. You made this statement five hours out from EoD 1. You then proceeded to engage with (some might even say, 'antagonise') two of your potential nominees (Scotty and 3J) for the next half hour before leaving, saying that you intended to return but never did I'm just wondering, did you change your mind? You seemed rather adamant to me - if there was some doubt about you returning before the deadline, why did you not cast your vote when you had the chance?Sorsha wrote:Dom is making me laugh so I'm not voting for him.
I think I'm going to vote for two of the prefects. Jimmy, Scotty, INH... See who's the toughest.
linki: ISO is reading a player's posts in isolation.
There was also Arrested Development, where I got lynched Day 1 as a vanilla townie, then got brought back to replace a scum player and lost the game two days later.Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Today is "throw Sloonei's shameful defeats onto his face" day
Sloonei wrote:There was also Arrested Development, where I got lynched Day 1 as a vanilla townie, then got brought back to replace a scum player and lost the game two days later.Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Today is "throw Sloonei's shameful defeats onto his face" day
How familiar are you with Glorfindel, and what do you make of his reaction when I first accused him early in the day?Turnip Head wrote:I don't think Glorfindel is the way to go. I'll probably be voting for Mac and Bass. Bass's activity definitely dropped off after the first Day or so, so now I'm concerned about him.
I would but I have not followed football outside the Patriots for years and I'll be at work during the draft. Can I just autodraft the entire Patriots roster? It's not like anyone else wants any of them anyway!Turnip Head wrote:And I need just ONE more person for the fantasy football league. Otherwise I have to tell one person they can't play, and I don't want to do that plz sign up k thx
I am not someone who can draftTurnip Head wrote:And no Sloonei, you absolutely cannot do that, you ignorant slut. I'm not running a circus here. Fantasy football is srs bsns.
I would however allow someone to draft a team and then hand it over to someone who DOES want to play, or just give it to Sockface :P . We can always work out the details of that later. At the very least I just need someone who can draft.
We all have been there before. Ive once made a huge ISO post where I concluded he was a civ beyond any doubt.Turnip Head wrote:I am by no means an expert on the subject of Glorfindel. I've thought before that I could read him and I was the driving force in mislynching him. That is my one experience playing with him.
And so I don't know how to explain it, but he feels sincere to me here.
I don't see what's bad about explaining my reasoning.Dom wrote:Semantics. Sad ! You are bad !nutella wrote:I am of course aware of all of those posts. None of them, however, except for that one that was already brought up, actually advocate for the lynching of low posters. He repeatedly discusses the odds of one of the teams being inactive, which I guess you could say implies that he thinks it would be a good idea to go after inactives, but only once does he say it outright, and he never really follows up on it. I guess you and I interpreted his posts differently, but to me, advocating for lynching low posters is a very different thing from stating observations about mechanics and numbers in the game.
I am not ignoring any facts. Everything I said there is based on facts and probability, and I never actually said I believe the YTs are inactive, I just said it was possible and defended Glorfindel's reasoning for it. As for Epi cherry-picking teams, I acknowledged that when Golden pointed it out, and yes, it probably does make Glorfindel's conclusion even less likely. He probably didn't know that or take it into account originally, so again, as I said, based on probability his line of thinking was not unreasonable. That is all I have said. Show me where I have "ignored facts."Dom wrote:You are not wrong in that.nutella wrote:Also, lack of precedence does not mean lack of probability. There's probably a fancy logical fallacy term for that but idgaf. Just because you've never seen an inactive mafia team before doesn't mean it couldn't happen, especially considering the Yellow Turban team only consists of three players, and this game has WAY more than three inactive players. They only killed once, and it was on SVS, an inactive player -- perhaps if nobody in the team had been paying attention they wouldn't know SVS hadn't been participating and just picked her to get rid of. Idk, I just think Glorfindel's lines of thinking are not entirely unreasonable
However, I find the probability to be very low. Hostin' Epi does not randomize roles. He cherry picks roles-- or has int he past. I doubt he'd put all people he suspects might be no-shows as his baddie teams. And he didn't. MM and Wilgy are not no-shows.
So your ignoring the facts is troublesome. Very troublesome. We need a better leader than that.
Really?? No. That was just an observation I had. It felt weird arguing with Lorab, because I don't suspect her. This post may as well have been in OT green as it was an observation of our history. Not emotional manipulation.Dom wrote:Bad ! Manipulating with emotion. Guilt. Bad !nutella wrote:Rare for the two of us to be so at odds, though -- we so often think alike as civs. Perhaps we have drifted apart
No idea, really. I had an okay vibe from Bass early on but he hasn't been around a ton, and that seems pretty normal for him but could go either way alignment-wise. Mac, I really don't know how to tell. Tbh I haven't noticed him very much, he seems to come in and give his two cents or point out a couple things/people he finds suspicious -- he accused me of sounding "fake" a couple times without much explanation. Someone who knows his meta better than I do said something along the lines of his style being aggressive(? was that the word they used?) and that he looked more or less his usual self, but I don't know, I've barely noticed him this game despite a decent post count. I'll ISO him right now because I'm curious now.Turnip Head wrote:nutella what do you think about Mac or Bass?
Exactly.nutella wrote:but I kept an open mind.
I think that's my main vibe re: Mac this game. He doesn't seem as conversational as I'm used to seeing him. He sort of just dips in and out and doesn't stir up too much trouble.nutella wrote:Mac, I really don't know how to tell. Tbh I haven't noticed him very much, he seems to come in and give his two cents or point out a couple things/people he finds suspicious -- he accused me of sounding "fake" a couple times without much explanation. Someone who knows his meta better than I do said something along the lines of his style being aggressive(? was that the word they used?) and that he looked more or less his usual self, but I don't know, I've barely noticed him this game despite a decent post count. I'll ISO him right now because I'm curious now.
My friend, I am not accusing you. All I've done here is made a measured, non-accusatory observation based on YOUR actions - as is my job in this game (or so I am continually being told). Your defensive reaction above is not helping. I said I didn't know what conclusion to draw from your actions so instead of your thinly veiled OMGUS, maybe you care to indulge me by explaining your actions? Thank you.Boomslang wrote:Well, if you're not sure what it says, what do you think it says? Or is this one of those baddie "let's plant a seed without actually taking sides and hope it grows into a mighty lynching tree" moves?Glorfindel wrote:Just another observation here...
As I understand it, part of the case that brought MM undone was his inconsistency in voting for Dr Wilgy for Prefect on Day 0 and then voted to have him duel on Day 1 - is that correct? I note that another player did a similar thing in that Boomslang voted MM for Prefect on Day 0 and then voted him for the dueling ring on Day 1.
The vote for MM's prefecture was mid-poll (i.e. 39th out of 62) so it wasn't really influential and it was MM's only vote for Prefect. I'm not sure what this says but personally, I didn't vote anyone for Prefect about whom I had doubts
I explained my actions in the thread. I voted MM for prefect because he got me into the game, and I voted for him to duel because he requested to do so and it was Day 1. The two votes were made with different levels of information. If he had actually been elected prefect, I may not have voted him to duel.Glorfindel wrote:My friend, I am not accusing you. All I've done here is made a measured, non-accusatory observation based on YOUR actions - as is my job in this game (or so I am continually being told). Your defensive reaction above is not helping. I said I didn't know what conclusion to draw from your actions so instead of your thinly veiled OMGUS, maybe you care to indulge me by explaining your actions? Thank you.Boomslang wrote:Well, if you're not sure what it says, what do you think it says? Or is this one of those baddie "let's plant a seed without actually taking sides and hope it grows into a mighty lynching tree" moves?Glorfindel wrote:Just another observation here...
As I understand it, part of the case that brought MM undone was his inconsistency in voting for Dr Wilgy for Prefect on Day 0 and then voted to have him duel on Day 1 - is that correct? I note that another player did a similar thing in that Boomslang voted MM for Prefect on Day 0 and then voted him for the dueling ring on Day 1.
The vote for MM's prefecture was mid-poll (i.e. 39th out of 62) so it wasn't really influential and it was MM's only vote for Prefect. I'm not sure what this says but personally, I didn't vote anyone for Prefect about whom I had doubts
Thank you, my friend for answering my enquiry. I was aware that you'd said that you voted for MM for Prefect because he'd invited you into the game but I must've missed the bit where you explained your vote for him on Day 1. I'm sorry that you feel there was any malice in my asking that question of you - irrespective of how you interpreted my question, there was not.Boomslang wrote:My own fantasy football draft is coming up in a bit here, so I should vote as well. I continue to like nutella's defenses, and I think voting that way is wrong. I think I'm going to put a vote on DDL and see where that leads. The host post, combined with his manipulative observations about TH and me, give me enough suspicious to take him seriously. For the other vote... let's go with Caps, who has slipped back under the radar today. Perhaps he doesn't feel as confident about his duel chances now, for whatever reason.
I explained my actions in the thread. I voted MM for prefect because he got me into the game, and I voted for him to duel because he requested to do so and it was Day 1. The two votes were made with different levels of information. If he had actually been elected prefect, I may not have voted him to duel.Glorfindel wrote:My friend, I am not accusing you. All I've done here is made a measured, non-accusatory observation based on YOUR actions - as is my job in this game (or so I am continually being told). Your defensive reaction above is not helping. I said I didn't know what conclusion to draw from your actions so instead of your thinly veiled OMGUS, maybe you care to indulge me by explaining your actions? Thank you.Boomslang wrote:Well, if you're not sure what it says, what do you think it says? Or is this one of those baddie "let's plant a seed without actually taking sides and hope it grows into a mighty lynching tree" moves?Glorfindel wrote:Just another observation here...
As I understand it, part of the case that brought MM undone was his inconsistency in voting for Dr Wilgy for Prefect on Day 0 and then voted to have him duel on Day 1 - is that correct? I note that another player did a similar thing in that Boomslang voted MM for Prefect on Day 0 and then voted him for the dueling ring on Day 1.
The vote for MM's prefecture was mid-poll (i.e. 39th out of 62) so it wasn't really influential and it was MM's only vote for Prefect. I'm not sure what this says but personally, I didn't vote anyone for Prefect about whom I had doubts
And don't play innocent with me. You know as well as I do that every post in a game of mafia has a purpose. "Personally, I didn't vote anyone for Prefect about whom I had doubts" suggests, however slyly, that my own actions weren't entirely forthright. My "defensive reaction" is trying to get you to admit that purpose in your post.
I find it quite bizarre Dom that your reads of your best choices for Mafia align so closely with my strongest Town readsDom wrote:Nutella
DFaraday
boomslang
glorfindel
turnip head