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Posted: **Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:31 pm**

I wouldn't mind voting for Soneji.

Posted: **Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:42 pm**

I see Soneji isn't posing much of a defense. Want to hear what he has to say.

If I had to vote right now, it would be for LC. It just makes sense to me.
Then MM. Then Soneji.

I just had a thought that if we stop getting killed in the night, and the mafia haven't been eliminated, we should look into lynching Wilgy. I'm fine with him atm putting out reads

Congrats Wilgy. You're solidifying yourself as an end-gamer. Cool strategy.

Posted: **Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:20 pm**

I've gone from being annoyed by the whole not reading the role PM to desperately hoping that it's true; not true why Long Con still thinks that it's a long con.

Posted: **Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:21 pm**

Deadline ends up being as soon as I get home from work tomorrow; I'm up for 40 minutes, and if Soneji doesn't post anything beautiful by then I'm voting there and praying.

Posted: **Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:26 pm**

I don't care who gets lynched tbh.

Posted: **Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:28 pm**

MacDougall wrote:I don't care who gets lynched tbh.

So you volunteer?

Posted: **Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:55 pm**

Despite Mac's odd moment of honesty, I voted Soneji so I can sleep peacefully.
Have a lovely day kids, I'll try to check in in the morning and during bathroom breaks!

Posted: **Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:05 pm**

Is anyone thinking or leaning at all to vote for LC today? I mean the person that agreed with me the most is dead (sig) and the other one I suspect (MM).

Otherwise I'm down for consolidation on Soneji

Posted: **Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:06 pm**

MacDougall wrote:I don't care who gets lynched tbh.

Why not? What ripped the wind from your sails?

Was it your teammate nijuu getting lynched?

Posted: **Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:08 pm**

Long Con wrote:Hopefully there's some cross-team baddie kill mojonation going on. RIP guys.

If you had to guess on one of the NK'd players being scum, who would it be?

When it comes to what you posted earlier about me thinking that you, Nacho and Wilgy are all on the same team, I don't find that to be very plausible. Much more likely its just two and I'm favoring it being you and Wilgy at the moment. Nacho could just have been being the type of civ who actively tries to prevent mislynches by heading off certain trains of thought.

[VOTE: ] aubergine[VOTE:

Oh hey look at Wilgy there casually blackmailing Snow Dog.] aubergine

MacDougall wrote:[VOTE: I don't care who gets lynched tbh.] aubergine

[VOTE:
Apathy isn't a good look for you.] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:12 pm**

Soneji wrote:
Long Con wrote:Hopefully there's some cross-team baddie kill mojonation going on. RIP guys.
If you had to guess on one of the NK'd players being scum, who would it be?

motel room 2.0 or sig would be my best guesses. I'll avoid the suspense and cast a vote right back at you, surprising no one.

*votes Soneji*

Posted: **Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:16 pm**

Scotty, I'm having a hard time seeing eye to eye with you on MM. The theory you have just seems rather implausible, for reasons you yourself stated. Epi could have gone after many people with his reasoning, why go after Black Rock, his supposed scummate? From what I have seen modkills don't really happen here so BR not having much time to play isn't very convincing for why they'd pull this, even if modkills were more common using the "inactives didn't send in their kill" logic to lynch anyone outside their faction would have been the more optimal move. All the BR lynch accomplished for them in that case is getting Epi offed.

MM, to my remembrance, seemed fine with the BR lynch based on personal experience of being part of a mafia team that failed to send in their NK.

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:30 am**

Would you rather my blackmail be non-casual?

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:37 am**

DrWilgy wrote:Would you rather my blackmail be non-casual?

You might need to read your role PM for that

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:40 am**

Soneji wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Would you rather my blackmail be non-casual?
You might need to read your role PM for that

Don't tell me how to live my life

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:47 am**

Soneji wrote:Scotty, I'm having a hard time seeing eye to eye with you on MM. The theory you have just seems rather implausible, for reasons you yourself stated. Epi could have gone after many people with his reasoning, why go after Black Rock, his supposed scummate? From what I have seen modkills don't really happen here so BR not having much time to play isn't very convincing for why they'd pull this, even if modkills were more common using the "inactives didn't send in their kill" logic to lynch anyone outside their faction would have been the more optimal move. All the BR lynch accomplished for them in that case is getting Epi offed.

MM, to my remembrance, seemed fine with the BR lynch based on personal experience of being part of a mafia team that failed to send in their NK.

Not necessarily- Epi would have accomplished looking supatown. That he got killed is just a side effect of that.

I'm not sure what you mean by the last part tho. Based on your personal experience being bad with him? MM didn't exactly say why he voted for her, he just did because Epi did.

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:53 am**

Vompatti wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I don't care who gets lynched tbh.
So you volunteer?

Sure

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:55 am**

Scotty wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I don't care who gets lynched tbh.
Why not? What ripped the wind from your sails?

Was it your teammate nijuu getting lynched?

No my teammates are Long Con and nacho.

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:57 am**

I changed my mind. Let's lynch Wilgy before it's too late.

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:00 am**

Soneji wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Would you rather my blackmail be non-casual?
You might need to read your role PM for that

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:03 am**

How many cycles until it's too late? ~[ ⇀ ‿ T ]

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:05 am**

MacDougall wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I don't care who gets lynched tbh.
So you volunteer?
Sure

Not sure if you're bad

Or just suicidal

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:15 am**

Scotty wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I don't care who gets lynched tbh.
So you volunteer?
Sure
Not sure if you're bad

Or just suicidal

Wilgy is bad, maybe.

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:20 am**

Scotty wrote:
Soneji wrote:Scotty, I'm having a hard time seeing eye to eye with you on MM. The theory you have just seems rather implausible, for reasons you yourself stated. Epi could have gone after many people with his reasoning, why go after Black Rock, his supposed scummate? From what I have seen modkills don't really happen here so BR not having much time to play isn't very convincing for why they'd pull this, even if modkills were more common using the "inactives didn't send in their kill" logic to lynch anyone outside their faction would have been the more optimal move. All the BR lynch accomplished for them in that case is getting Epi offed.

MM, to my remembrance, seemed fine with the BR lynch based on personal experience of being part of a mafia team that failed to send in their NK.
Not necessarily- Epi would have accomplished looking supatown. That he got killed is just a side effect of that.

I'm not sure what you mean by the last part tho. Based on your personal experience being bad with him? MM didn't exactly say why he voted for her, he just did because Epi did.

Looking supatown in a two mafia game is asking to get night killed.

I have never been on a mafia team with MM. He mentioned in one post that he had been part of a mafia team that missed a night kill and that that team also had Wilgy, MacDougall and a few others.

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:38 am**

I am the most obviously civ player in this game. I bet people on the outside observing are nodding in agreement right now.

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:48 am**

MacDougall wrote:I am the most obviously civ player in this game. I bet people on the outside observing are nodding in agreement right now.

The more I think about it the more I agree.

I just hate that you don't care who gets lynched. It's so obviously non-civ that it's unfortunately rather civ. Like pineapple and cheese. Awful on paper; good in stomach.

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:01 am**

Soneji wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Soneji wrote:Scotty, I'm having a hard time seeing eye to eye with you on MM. The theory you have just seems rather implausible, for reasons you yourself stated. Epi could have gone after many people with his reasoning, why go after Black Rock, his supposed scummate? From what I have seen modkills don't really happen here so BR not having much time to play isn't very convincing for why they'd pull this, even if modkills were more common using the "inactives didn't send in their kill" logic to lynch anyone outside their faction would have been the more optimal move. All the BR lynch accomplished for them in that case is getting Epi offed.

MM, to my remembrance, seemed fine with the BR lynch based on personal experience of being part of a mafia team that failed to send in their NK.
Not necessarily- Epi would have accomplished looking supatown. That he got killed is just a side effect of that.

I'm not sure what you mean by the last part tho. Based on your personal experience being bad with him? MM didn't exactly say why he voted for her, he just did because Epi did.
Looking supatown in a two mafia game is asking to get night killed.

I have never been on a mafia team with MM. He mentioned in one post that he had been part of a mafia team that missed a night kill and that that team also had Wilgy, MacDougall and a few others.

Ok but what does him saying he was on a team that missed a Nk have to do with voting Br in particular?

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:08 am**

Zebra, I think between Snow Dog and you, snow dog looks better
A) for his willingness to view you as good even though you've got a knife pressed against his throat
B) because he is attempting to look at more angles of people's intentions, whereas you are so confident he is bad I think your blinders are far too on to change

I'm totally ready to vote LC or Soneji but can't make up my mind on which. I think one or both of them are bad, but feel more confident about LC

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:20 am**

Long Con wrote:
Scotty wrote:Why is MM a moderate scumread for you?
Because he was a Civ read, but then his latest agreement with meaningless and fake accusations against me made me question that.

I don't see either of those accusations being fake.

Sig made a gutread that you are bad, and was subsequently nightkilled. That doesn't make him civ, but the odds are in his favor.

Scotty made a reasonable point.

So nope! I disagree.

Linki: tfw you get almost 24 hours of linkitis.

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:29 am**

Soneji wrote:Scotty, I'm having a hard time seeing eye to eye with you on MM. The theory you have just seems rather implausible, for reasons you yourself stated. Epi could have gone after many people with his reasoning, why go after Black Rock, his supposed scummate? From what I have seen modkills don't really happen here so BR not having much time to play isn't very convincing for why they'd pull this, even if modkills were more common using the "inactives didn't send in their kill" logic to lynch anyone outside their faction would have been the more optimal move. All the BR lynch accomplished for them in that case is getting Epi offed.

MM, to my remembrance, seemed fine with the BR lynch based on personal experience of being part of a mafia team that failed to send in their NK.

I did mention something like that. I said a team of 5 with some players who are often fairly active (including myself) managed to miss a nightkill, so really anyone can.

But Epignosis called BR out specifically, so I followed suit.

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:46 am**

I voted for Soneji k

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:53 am**

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Soneji wrote:Scotty, I'm having a hard time seeing eye to eye with you on MM. The theory you have just seems rather implausible, for reasons you yourself stated. Epi could have gone after many people with his reasoning, why go after Black Rock, his supposed scummate? From what I have seen modkills don't really happen here so BR not having much time to play isn't very convincing for why they'd pull this, even if modkills were more common using the "inactives didn't send in their kill" logic to lynch anyone outside their faction would have been the more optimal move. All the BR lynch accomplished for them in that case is getting Epi offed.

MM, to my remembrance, seemed fine with the BR lynch based on personal experience of being part of a mafia team that failed to send in their NK.
I did mention something like that. I said a team of 5 with some players who are often fairly active (including myself) managed to miss a nightkill, so really anyone can.

But Epignosis called BR out specifically, so I followed suit.

This a scumslip

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:59 am**

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Soneji wrote:Scotty, I'm having a hard time seeing eye to eye with you on MM. The theory you have just seems rather implausible, for reasons you yourself stated. Epi could have gone after many people with his reasoning, why go after Black Rock, his supposed scummate? From what I have seen modkills don't really happen here so BR not having much time to play isn't very convincing for why they'd pull this, even if modkills were more common using the "inactives didn't send in their kill" logic to lynch anyone outside their faction would have been the more optimal move. All the BR lynch accomplished for them in that case is getting Epi offed.

MM, to my remembrance, seemed fine with the BR lynch based on personal experience of being part of a mafia team that failed to send in their NK.
I did mention something like that. I said a team of 5 with some players who are often fairly active (including myself) managed to miss a nightkill, so really anyone can.

But Epignosis called BR out specifically, so I followed suit.

Hey @MM!

-What do you currently think of Soneji? I just went looking through your post history and the most you have mentioned him is to basically say "I am uninterested in lynching him" and "I'm not convinced he is bad".

-Are you currently looking to vote for LC today?

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:05 am**

MacDougall wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Soneji wrote:Scotty, I'm having a hard time seeing eye to eye with you on MM. The theory you have just seems rather implausible, for reasons you yourself stated. Epi could have gone after many people with his reasoning, why go after Black Rock, his supposed scummate? From what I have seen modkills don't really happen here so BR not having much time to play isn't very convincing for why they'd pull this, even if modkills were more common using the "inactives didn't send in their kill" logic to lynch anyone outside their faction would have been the more optimal move. All the BR lynch accomplished for them in that case is getting Epi offed.

MM, to my remembrance, seemed fine with the BR lynch based on personal experience of being part of a mafia team that failed to send in their NK.
I did mention something like that. I said a team of 5 with some players who are often fairly active (including myself) managed to miss a nightkill, so really anyone can.

But Epignosis called BR out specifically, so I followed suit.
This a scumslip

Thing is, we already were aware MM has been buddying Epi, and this explanation showed nothing new.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Scotty wrote:I'm still under the impression that there are pirates in the mix of my shortlist. But I also realize that the cannibals are probably actively hunting for pirates, so I probably need to start looking there so we have less chance to mislynch those on my list. Soneji is the top of my list, as he was with Boom yesterday.

I want to look at LC, MM and of course zebra.

MM, what would you say if i told you I feel like you were buddying Epi the past 2 days?
I have been budding him because he's ths civvest of civs and I turst himt.

Like, is ^that^ the drunken words of someone that put thought into his vote? I rarely if ever equate buddying with civ behavior.

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:07 am**

I feel like Nacho a bit where my top "town reads" are somewhat against each other.

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:09 am**

MM isn't getting lynched today because there's only 4 of us that haven't voted, including MM, but I petition his lynch tomorrow

Sincerely,

Scotty "Day After Tomorrow" Montgomery

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:12 am**

Soneji wrote:I feel like Nacho a bit where my top "town reads" are somewhat against each other.

Remind me again who your top civ reads are, since unless some bumfuckery happens you're in line to get lynched.

The last read list you posted listed your scum reads, which happened to be every player in the game:

Spoiler: show

Was beginning to think you didn't have civ reads

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:26 am**

Scotty wrote:
Soneji wrote:I feel like Nacho a bit where my top "town reads" are somewhat against each other.
Remind me again who your top civ reads are, since unless some bumfuckery happens you're in line to get lynched.

The last read list you posted listed your scum reads, which happened to be every player in the game:
Spoiler: show
Soneji wrote:Scotty : Has in general been very actively scumhunting in a way that comes off as genuine with the way he jumps on questionable posts. The only thing that potentially indicates scum to me right now is him bringing up the lack of discussion on him multiple times. Mafia are more worried about where they stand in the game and can even welcome having some suspicion on them, especially when there are two mafia.

Conclusion : Slight scum lean

Sig : Has had a varied scumhunting game, from just quick reads, to gut reads, NK analysis and OMGUS. His quick reads give me good vibes, don't care for how much he has written on NK analysis as its a very iffy field and he has largely gone after people for their reasoning going after others rather than any more direct scum indicative behavior. His claim that one of n1's NK wasn't missed is reminiscent of his insistence that we were playing a certain setup in the scrimmage game, where he was scum and therefore knew the setup.

Conclusion : Moderate scum read

@sig : I don't do rainbows as I don't do townreads, plus doing it on mobile would be a pain. I can list tiers.

Slight scum lean :

Scotty
MM

Middling scum lean :

Mac
Vompatti
Motel room
Snow Dog

Moderate scum lean:

Wilgy
Sig

Strong scum lean :

LC
Nacho
Zebra
Was beginning to think you didn't have civ reads

I put town reads in quotations as I don't really believe in having town reads. If I did though, it would be you and MM, as I have had very little reason to suspect either of you.

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:32 am**

I like Scotty. He comes across as very civ. My first game with him though so I have no real basis so let's call it"gut" :P
MM seems civish to me. Needs another look though.
Nachmomma.....civ.
Zebra......civ

Long Con...Mixed emotions, but I am leaning bad on him.
Soneji....I think he is bad.

Who have I missed?

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:33 am**

DrWigy....I really don't know
Mac...ditto
Vompatti....Who EVER knows???

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:34 am**

Anyway.....

Votes Soneji

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:02 am**

MacDougall! When did the fire die? You don't seem you.

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:17 am**

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Scotty wrote:Why is MM a moderate scumread for you?
Because he was a Civ read, but then his latest agreement with meaningless and fake accusations against me made me question that.
I don't see either of those accusations being fake.

Sig made a gutread that you are bad, and was subsequently nightkilled. That doesn't make him civ, but the odds are in his favor.

Actually, you bringing it up makes it a lot more likely that you are bad. You killed sig in the hopes that everyone would come to the conclusion that I did it because he suspected me. Since that didn't happen, you, slightly frustrated, just tried to push that agenda. We've all seen it before, and here it is happening.

Scotty made a reasonable point.

I don't recall that happening, which point was that? I recall his last point against me having no real point to it at all, and when I asked him to clarify, he didn't - or couldn't - give any reply at all.

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:57 am**

@LC no, I made multiple points. Your response was more or less "so?"

LC

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:02 pm**

Scotty wrote:@LC no, I made multiple points. Your response was more or less "so?"

LC

No, you highlighted some text, and then laid a couple of quotes from me down, and then did a

smiley. I said "...and?", prompting you to make a point somewhere, and you did not.

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:04 pm**

Rezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:05 pm**

also, brains are yummy and I want some more of them plzkthxbye

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:09 pm**

Long Con wrote:
Scotty wrote:@LC no, I made multiple points. Your response was more or less "so?"

LC
No, you highlighted some text, and then laid a couple of quotes from me down, and then did a smiley. I said "...and?", prompting you to make a point somewhere, and you did not.

The point is that it was hypocritical and by your own admission suspicious. That, layered with your flip flopping point I made a few days ago, is suspicious as shit to me.

MovingPictures07 wrote:also, brains are yummy and I want some more of them plzkthxbye

MP=Cannibal confirmed

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:10 pm**

*rezzes MP*

I plan to include a role in Mafia: A World Asunder that has the ability to sacrifice its own life in order to resurrect another role... probably a successor to the Soul Elemental and the Essence Elemental from the first two games, respectively. I'll give that role some other abilities too.

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