The Syndicate

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:55 pm Were lapluie and Glor the only 2 unaffected ?

@rabbit8 you received your role before end or day. Did it have any strange day 2 posting stipulation ?

Of the people who posted today, I think so.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:53 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:51 pm "I would sooner _______ than lynch Glorfindel" wouldn't be a bad meme.

Even me?????

He's blue in my rainbow and you're green, so yeah I'd lynch you first.

Really though I think dunya's incursion into the thread in full-blast rap mode, with numerous references to older posts and then a large case on sig was all a good look. This is where Sloonei might say "but she was a spectator and could have already genuinely derived these opinions", but meh. I think it looked civilian.

[mention]Elohcin[/mention]

[mention]DrWilgy[/mention]

Please name one thing you have done to help catch any baddies.




Mac was town? No shit. But if I lynched everyone who is putting forth no effort to catch scum AND a couple people on that train there wouldn't be Hartley anyone left.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:55 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:54 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:19 pm I don't like how sig managed to become a runaway wagon at the 11th hour when 90 percent of the thread couldn't even talk about it properly.

Quin, Kyle, Made, LC, Nutella and myself were perfectly clear.

Jimmy, Dunya, Speedchuck were decently clear.

To hear Glor and Lap try to figure it out, we might as well have been speaking Klingon.

I could literally only rate posts.

Which is worthwhile but not if the people who can talk ignore you, which they did.

Actually I have to say that the thing I hate most about Day 2 was that I didn't get a sweet Pokemon nickname from Kyle.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:59 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:55 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:54 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:19 pm I don't like how sig managed to become a runaway wagon at the 11th hour when 90 percent of the thread couldn't even talk about it properly.

Quin, Kyle, Made, LC, Nutella and myself were perfectly clear.

Jimmy, Dunya, Speedchuck were decently clear.

To hear Glor and Lap try to figure it out, we might as well have been speaking Klingon.

I could literally only rate posts.

Which is worthwhile but not if the people who can talk ignore you, which they did.

i'll be honest i have no idea what this conversation is about

Jack, what did you like about dunya's case?

And here I was hoping to get Mod-killed for excessive whining... Thank you, Guys!

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:55 pm Were lapluie and Glor the only 2 unaffected ?

@rabbit8 you received your role before end or day. Did it have any strange day 2 posting stipulation ?

Holy shit! Love the notification thing. Do you have to @ the name for it? Do you have to use the correct spelling and shit?
I'm on page 3...
No... Not that I'm aware of.

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:05 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:55 pm Were lapluie and Glor the only 2 unaffected ?

rabbit8 you received your role before end or day. Did it have any strange day 2 posting stipulation ?

Holy shit! Love the notification thing. Do you have to @ the name for it? Do you have to use the correct spelling and shit?
I'm on page 3...
No... Not that I'm aware of.

You type @ and start typing the beginning of the name and it'll pop up to autocomplete. Also, if you quote a post with a mention (as I'm doing now) you should delete the @ or it'll keep popping up

i hated that. my curse was to narrate everything like a Pokemon battle and refer to everyone by pokemon names. I guess cus my avi is a pokemon guy.

some of your names already seem like the names of pokemon so that was an unexpected challenge

the cursed were mostly incomprehensible, and the people who weren't cursed seemed to spend most of their time complaining about the curses, so I spent the last day phase rereading and iso'ing

Eloh became a new ping for me. The recent vocaroo game was a virtual hellscape for participation. There were fewer posts obviously but many of the posts took up to 5 minutes to read. It presented a challenge for participation that put a lot of people in a position of lagging behind, some days I had to sit listening to other players speak for 2 or 3 hours before I could post anything relevant. Eloh maintained a position of being one of the most active players in that game despite all that and had frequently Meanwhile in this game, which has honestly a pretty standard length mafia game other than the the 16 page long day 0 and the dumpster fire that we all just experienced.

the fact that her communication during chaos day was limited despite her relatively easy curse doesn't help things much either. I don't see the same elohcin drive as I saw in vocaroo mafia. It's a strange juxtaposition.

excuse me while i use as many words as i want in whatever order I want to explain my thoughts oh my god it feels so nice

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:05 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:55 pm Were lapluie and Glor the only 2 unaffected ?

@rabbit8 you received your role before end or day. Did it have any strange day 2 posting stipulation ?

Holy shit! Love the notification thing. Do you have to @ the name for it? Do you have to use the correct spelling and shit?
I'm on page 3...
No... Not that I'm aware of.

It comes up automatically after you type @ and start typing the person's us[mention]rabbit8[/mention]

Also I think you're town. Weird crazy hunch.

[mention]Kylemii[/mention], I haven't played either vocaroo game, but my impression from what I've heard is that Eloh tended to participate more in vocaroo than she normally does in traditional text-based games. I've seen her normal style here, nothing alignment-indicative either way.

Fancy shit. I feel mafia old. Still cant get used to this town and scum shit either.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:09 pm @Kylemii, I haven't played either vocaroo game, but my impression from what I've heard is that Eloh tended to participate more in vocaroo than she normally does in traditional text-based games. I've seen her normal style here, nothing alignment-indicative either way.

what about her participation in mountains?

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:03 pm Jack, what did you like about dunya's case?

That it was better than the case against Tony.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:59 pm Actually I have to say that the thing I hate most about Day 2 was that I didn't get a sweet Pokemon nickname from Kyle.

You were going to be quindaquil but I accidentally used that for elohcindaquilnand never had an opportunity to use your name.

Simon was going to be simengar for obvious reasons. I didn't have any other ones planned. I had Bulbapedia open in a different tab for the entirety of the last 48 hours.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:14 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:59 pm Actually I have to say that the thing I hate most about Day 2 was that I didn't get a sweet Pokemon nickname from Kyle.

You were going to be quindaquil but I accidentally used that for elohcindaquilnand never had an opportunity to use your name.

Simon was going to be simengar for obvious reasons. I didn't have any other ones planned. I had Bulbapedia open in a different tab for the entirety of the last 48 hours.

fuck me dead that's the exact nickname i wanted

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:32 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:31 pm What's the case against TSP?

I didn't care for what I perceived to be shade he was throwing at people who weren't cursed just for not being cursed. TSP, if that's inaccurate then say so.

Posting before catching up is never a good idea.

I was generally suspicious of the people not cursed because I didn’t percieve Glor and Lap as trying to actually interact. I understand that it was probably very frustrating for them as I just quoted Iron Man at them or as they tried to communicate with Chicago lyrics, but Glor seemed to be giving up and I wanted to motivate him to offer up some discussion. In general after that day I am more suspicious of those who tried to use the curses as an excuse for making easy arguments or not trying to participate in discussion.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:24 pm Anyway, talk to me about the notion that Wilgy, famed WIFOM overlord, b/s'ed about suspecting Sloonei all day and then killed him.

I buy it.

Moreover, Wilgy has shown himself capable of busting open a scum team while only posting smilies but when given that post restriction today did exactly nothing when asked to contribute.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:11 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:09 pm Kylemii, I haven't played either vocaroo game, but my impression from what I've heard is that Eloh tended to participate more in vocaroo than she normally does in traditional text-based games. I've seen her normal style here, nothing alignment-indicative either way.

what about her participation in mountains?

What about it? She was bad in that game, and I think she participated a fair amount but did her usual always-being-behind/catching-up. I don't really have substantial insights about her meta, but if anything I could say that since it looks like she tried to post a lot more in that game when she was bad, she looks neutral with the few posts she has here so far, but she could easily be trying to hide behind that or distancing herself from her play in Mountains. Idk, what do you think?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:14 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:03 pm Jack, what did you like about dunya's case?

That it was better than the case against Tony.

[mention]Quin[/mention]

Sig was my fourth suspect after Wilgy, Eloh, Lap.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:32 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:31 pm What's the case against TSP?

I didn't care for what I perceived to be shade he was throwing at people who weren't cursed just for not being cursed. TSP, if that's inaccurate then say so.

Posting before catching up is never a good idea.

I was generally suspicious of the people not cursed because I didn’t percieve Glor and Lap as trying to actually interact. I understand that it was probably very frustrating for them as I just quoted Iron Man at them or as they tried to communicate with Chicago lyrics, but Glor seemed to be giving up and I wanted to motivate him to offer up some discussion. In general after that day I am more suspicious of those who tried to use the curses as an excuse for making easy arguments or not trying to participate in discussion.

Who are these people?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:15 pm In general after that day I am more suspicious of those who tried to use the curses as an excuse for making easy arguments or not trying to participate in discussion.

And who would you say fits that description?

ninja'd

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:16 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:24 pm Anyway, talk to me about the notion that Wilgy, famed WIFOM overlord, b/s'ed about suspecting Sloonei all day and then killed him.

I buy it.

Moreover, Wilgy has shown himself capable of busting open a scum team while only posting smilies but when given that post restriction today did exactly nothing when asked to contribute.

Now this is a decent argument.

Mkay guys

I was stuck with Kansas lyrics.
Quin has posted a bunch of my thoughts, but I've got more. Strong ones. Let me queue them up.

why kansas lyrics speedchuck?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:16 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:24 pm Anyway, talk to me about the notion that Wilgy, famed WIFOM overlord, b/s'ed about suspecting Sloonei all day and then killed him.

I buy it.

Moreover, Wilgy has shown himself capable of busting open a scum team while only posting smilies but when given that post restriction today did exactly nothing when asked to contribute.

this bothered me too.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:17 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:11 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:09 pm Kylemii, I haven't played either vocaroo game, but my impression from what I've heard is that Eloh tended to participate more in vocaroo than she normally does in traditional text-based games. I've seen her normal style here, nothing alignment-indicative either way.

what about her participation in mountains?

What about it? She was bad in that game, and I think she participated a fair amount but did her usual always-being-behind/catching-up. I don't really have substantial insights about her meta, but if anything I could say that since it looks like she tried to post a lot more in that game when she was bad, she looks neutral with the few posts she has here so far, but she could easily be trying to hide behind that or distancing herself from her play in Mountains. Idk, what do you think?

I'll have to review mountains again

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:18 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:15 pm In general after that day I am more suspicious of those who tried to use the curses as an excuse for making easy arguments or not trying to participate in discussion.

And who would you say fits that description?

ninja'd

Eloh, Wilgy, Glor, sometimes Long Con, sometimes Lap (who I wasn’t scumreading but legitimately thought was cursed and wanted verification)

I honestly wasn’t sure what Quin was doing, did I miss an explanation?

Rainbow of the remains

speedchuck
Glorfindel
Quin
lapluie
novaselinenever
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
Rabbit8
Dom
Elohcin
Simon
Dave
Marmot
Made
Long Con
Simon
nutella
dunya
TonyStarkPrime
DrWilgy

linki: Because Epi submitted Kansas to the Syndicate Album of the Week last week, and I revealed that I am a huge Kansas fan. They are in my top 5 bands ever.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:45 pm lapluie is one of my stronger civilian reads at the moment. I think her posts sound quite genuine, and I also doubt she kills one of the only two people she knows on this site (Sloonei and Quin) on Night 1 -- especially not when she had his favor.

Presumably, Sloonei scumhunts bad Lup best and anyway, she may not have made the call.

I see no hunting from Lap. Not even pretend hunting.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:34 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:32 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:31 pm What's the case against TSP?

I didn't care for what I perceived to be shade he was throwing at people who weren't cursed just for not being cursed. TSP, if that's inaccurate then say so.

He called me a narcissist, so it is inaccurate.

That was a part of my failed “make a name for everyone” idea. It didn’t work so well :P

Btw, I still think Jimmy's bad but I don't care to push it cause we need him if I'm wrong.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:31 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:45 pm lapluie is one of my stronger civilian reads at the moment. I think her posts sound quite genuine, and I also doubt she kills one of the only two people she knows on this site (Sloonei and Quin) on Night 1 -- especially not when she had his favor.

Presumably, Sloonei scumhunts bad Lup best and anyway, she may not have made the call.

I see no hunting from Lap. Not even pretend hunting.

Sometimes civilians don't hunt. The ones who don't hunt don't pretend either.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:31 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:34 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:32 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:31 pm What's the case against TSP?

I didn't care for what I perceived to be shade he was throwing at people who weren't cursed just for not being cursed. TSP, if that's inaccurate then say so.

He called me a narcissist, so it is inaccurate.

That was a part of my failed “make a name for everyone” idea. It didn’t work so well :P

I knew what you were trying to do cause I'm awesome at secret codes.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:32 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:31 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:45 pm lapluie is one of my stronger civilian reads at the moment. I think her posts sound quite genuine, and I also doubt she kills one of the only two people she knows on this site (Sloonei and Quin) on Night 1 -- especially not when she had his favor.

Presumably, Sloonei scumhunts bad Lup best and anyway, she may not have made the call.

I see no hunting from Lap. Not even pretend hunting.

Sometimes civilians don't hunt. The ones who don't hunt don't pretend either.

Fair.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:32 pm Btw, I still think Jimmy's bad but I don't care to push it cause we need him if I'm wrong.

I don't still think you're bad, so thank you for not thoroughly wasting my time.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:30 pm Rainbow of the remains

speedchuck
Glorfindel
Quin
lapluie
novaselinenever
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
Rabbit8
Dom
Elohcin
Simon
Dave
Marmot
Made
Long Con
Simon
nutella
dunya
TonyStarkPrime
DrWilgy

linki: Because Epi submitted Kansas to the Syndicate Album of the Week last week, and I revealed that I am a huge Kansas fan. They are in my top 5 bands ever.

Why are you scumreading me?
Why Dunya?

The Sig lynch was bad.
Dunya is bad for starting it.

1. Sig is always wishy-washy
2. Waffley behavior is a textbook EZ suspicion to put on mislynches, when it can really go both ways. Town can be genuinely uncertain as easily as mafia can be nervous
3. Sig couldn't defend easily, and this is a mostly brand-new suspicion. That's the reason I'd rather have gone with a D1 case. Now we're back to square one.
4. Sig's lynch gained momentum too easily. If half the scumteam wasn't on it, I will eat a Kansas CD.

Dunya replaced in, and her first action was to go through the thread, pick the easiest mislynch possible, and drive it home while Sig couldn't defend himself and no better cases could be made. Screw that.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:34 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:30 pm Rainbow of the remains

speedchuck
Glorfindel
Quin
lapluie
novaselinenever
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
Rabbit8
Dom
Elohcin
Simon
Dave
Marmot
Made
Long Con
Simon
nutella
dunya
TonyStarkPrime
DrWilgy

linki: Because Epi submitted Kansas to the Syndicate Album of the Week last week, and I revealed that I am a huge Kansas fan. They are in my top 5 bands ever.

Why are you scumreading me?

I didn't like your push against the only people who could (at least supposedly) talk in the thread normally. It was an easy target, it shut them up when they could have helped, and it's completely not-alignment-indicative. But I can't pressure you over it easily for that last reason. Safe.

I might be biased on this one. Maybe it's also not alignment indicative. But that's why originally put my vote on you D2, and you never responded to my queries in a way that told me it was a bad idea.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:55 pm Were lapluie and Glor the only 2 unaffected ?

rabbit8 you received your role before end or day. Did it have any strange day 2 posting stipulation ?

Pretty sure Eloh didn't have one.

I thought the worst things about sig's posts were the little pokes he made that went nowhere upon questioning ("speedchuck saying he'd vote dunya was strange", "the game getting started so fast was strange", etc).

It was the wrong move, shit happens. Right now I am feeling like lynching in the DrWilgy/novaselinenever set. speedchuck, can you tell me what you like about the latter?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:31 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:45 pm lapluie is one of my stronger civilian reads at the moment. I think her posts sound quite genuine, and I also doubt she kills one of the only two people she knows on this site (Sloonei and Quin) on Night 1 -- especially not when she had his favor.

Presumably, Sloonei scumhunts bad Lup best and anyway, she may not have made the call.

I see no hunting from Lap. Not even pretend hunting.

i unconcede my lepluie suspicion

lapluie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:31 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:10 pm I want to hear more from lapluie. Most of her responses are in a back and forth with Sloonei, which is understandable given its her first game here and she's sticking to who she knows. I'd still like to see her mingle a bit. She brings a good perspective to games when she gets settled.

lapluie:

1. What do you think about Made?
2. Why is Marmot's vote for nova more likely to come from scum than town?
3. Tell me something new.

I'm sorry I honstly did not pay much attention to him, I've missed a large chunk of this whole Made accusations part & that's on me. thinking to reread the whole thread in order to follow up.

not sure, hes still not explained his vote (?) Correct me if I'm wrong, if it is just a random vote for a town newbie in order to get reactions then that's understandable, he's just been avoiding questioning regarding that matter though which is dodgy & again correct me if I'm wrong if he had already appealed to answering then I'll look into it.

May (not) vote tonight, will check in again once I've followed up this thread & have made a decision

Earlier in the game, I got a strong townread off of lapluie from this post alone. Anyone want to tell me why?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:30 pm Rainbow of the remains

speedchuck
Glorfindel
Quin
lapluie
novaselinenever
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
Rabbit8
Dom
Elohcin
Simon
Dave
Marmot
Made
Long Con
Simon
nutella
dunya
TonyStarkPrime
DrWilgy

linki: Because Epi submitted Kansas to the Syndicate Album of the Week last week, and I revealed that I am a huge Kansas fan. They are in my top 5 bands ever.

Why dunya?

(also nice color scheme)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:39 pm It was the wrong move, shit happens. Right now I am feeling like lynching in the DrWilgy/novaselinenever set. speedchuck, can you tell me what you like about the latter?

Nothing's pinged me, and I remember liking some of his posts. I'll give you a more comprehensive answer in a minute.

Let’s play the build a scum team game. I’ll go first.

Dunya
Eloh
Wilgy
Nova
Long Con


Someone give me better.

And I would ask Speed about Nova but apparently he’s about to answer.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:43 pm Let’s play the build a scum team game. I’ll go first.

Dunya
Eloh
Wilgy
Nova
Long Con


Someone give me better.

And I would ask Speed about Nova but apparently he’s about to answer.

I see no reason to place Eloh over Simon or someone like that. But that's pretty good.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:42 pm
Why dunya?

(also nice color scheme)

Nevermind you already answered this

[mention]dunya[/mention] I tried to ask you earlier in battle speak but we're you spectating the thread prior to replacing in?