The Syndicate

My gut & instincts are telling me to do the right thing but I may fudge it up

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 8:13 pm Not caught up, and won't be until tomorrow.

BUT. I've been thinking about my constant uncertainty as town lately, and that I should stop being dumb and not be afraid to be wrong. I really think I could have and should have stuck with my town read on Wolbre.

So this looks something like - there's one particular aspect of MP's play that makes me think town for him. Don't really want to say what in case I'm right.

I still suspect Marmot. I just do. Rah rah.

Fuuuuuuuuuu bye Kyle-

That kill actually made sense. There’s gotta be a strategy here, even if we don’t see t

i pronanly already said it but my participatioj is going to dip a lot this weekend and I’ll do my best on bathroom breaks to respond and keep making shit happen but know that im not just chillin in a freezer somewhere

[VOTE: Elo] aubergine

I think her buddy Colin saved her yesterday and my suspicion hasn’t abated for her, so...one of them

Will take a look at voting patterns more tomorrow

I would avoid Quin altogether. I don’t think he’s bad unlesssssss he is the white bunny who can’t be lynched. That’s the only reason I would see for him to self vote at that point (I don’t remember how many votes he had in my reread)

Still all in on dizzy being the big bad.

[mention]Charlie Blackmon[/mention] I know you don’t like mentions but

What do you think of Elo this game? I don’t see any mentions of her in your ISO.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:27 pm [VOTE: Elo] aubergine

I think her buddy Colin saved her yesterday and my suspicion hasn’t abated for her, so...one of them

Will take a look at voting patterns more tomorrow

I would avoid Quin altogether. I don’t think he’s bad unlesssssss he is the white bunny who can’t be lynched. That’s the only reason I would see for him to self vote at that point (I don’t remember how many votes he had in my reread)

Da fuq

Quin wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:27 pm Still all in on dizzy being the big bad.

I missed your explanation. Can you sum it up, or am I going digging later?

You’re gonna have to flesh that tinfoil out a little bit, Scotty.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:31 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:27 pm Still all in on dizzy being the big bad.

I missed your explanation. Can you sum it up, or am I going digging later?

He shit on my nova night kill analysis.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:30 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:27 pm [VOTE: Elo] aubergine

I think her buddy Colin saved her yesterday and my suspicion hasn’t abated for her, so...one of them

Will take a look at voting patterns more tomorrow

I would avoid Quin altogether. I don’t think he’s bad unlesssssss he is the white bunny who can’t be lynched. That’s the only reason I would see for him to self vote at that point (I don’t remember how many votes he had in my reread)

Da fuq

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:31 pm You’re gonna have to flesh that tinfoil out a little bit, Scotty.

It’s wax paper, not tin foil.

I’ll get to it tomorrow but even still, why are you acting so surprised?

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:49 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:31 pm You’re gonna have to flesh that tinfoil out a little bit, Scotty.

It’s wax paper, not tin foil.

I’ll get to it tomorrow but even still, why are you acting so surprised?

Why wouldn’t I be surprised...?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:56 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:49 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:31 pm You’re gonna have to flesh that tinfoil out a little bit, Scotty.

It’s wax paper, not tin foil.

I’ll get to it tomorrow but even still, why are you acting so surprised?

Why wouldn’t I be surprised...?

I’ve already called you out on things yesterday so it seems like you’re taking my accusation as if it’s out of the blue, when in reality I know you’re playing dumb because you responded to it

Quin wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:38 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:31 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:27 pm Still all in on dizzy being the big bad.

I missed your explanation. Can you sum it up, or am I going digging later?

He shit on my nova night kill analysis.

You never explained why you thought that looked suspicious. Seemed like a no u. Can you elaborate on why Dizzy's reaction to your analysis made them look bad?

Quin wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:27 pm Still all in on dizzy being the big bad.

I'm open. I have no time to do my own digging, but you should assemble a larger case.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 12:36 am

Quin wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:38 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:31 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:27 pm Still all in on dizzy being the big bad.

I missed your explanation. Can you sum it up, or am I going digging later?

He shit on my nova night kill analysis.

You never explained why you thought that looked suspicious. Seemed like a no u. Can you elaborate on why Dizzy's reaction to your analysis made them look bad?

i did tho

Caught up

Quin wrote: ↑Thu May 24, 2018 9:06 pm Then we're all on the same page.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 10:20 am Rip wolbre, hi nutella!

I think I like you. Can you expand on why Elo is at the bottom for you?

Like, as in think she's town? She's had exactly one post knowing her alignment here though. : p

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 12:17 pm Only two teammates also means we're still a whopping three mislynches from LYLO, which is reassuring.

It'll get harder to lynch scum for every mislynch number wise, so no time to relax. Urgency, places people etc.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:27 pm [VOTE: Elo] aubergine

I think her buddy Colin saved her yesterday and my suspicion hasn’t abated for her, so...one of them

Will take a look at voting patterns more tomorrow

I would avoid Quin altogether. I don’t think he’s bad unlesssssss he is the white bunny who can’t be lynched. That’s the only reason I would see for him to self vote at that point (I don’t remember how many votes he had in my reread)

True story, I didn't even realize there was a scum role that couldn't be lynched. How does that even work if they have the most votes? Will we just know they are scum and they'll hang around in thread and post pictures of doges? Lol, too funny.

Quin wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:27 pm Still all in on dizzy being the big bad.

Have fun.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 1:23 ami did tho

You haven't thooooo. I still don't know. Nobody else seems to know. So maybe you should take that into account? You literally said Nova was a smart kill (wen't back to look, cause I hadn't read the post since my initial impression). My point was exactly that you were the only one I perceived to not go "hm, that was a weird kill" but instead found a reason for it to be a good kill. That is not wrong. Not even objectively. And it can't be subjectively wrong. Why the fuck is this such a thing for you? What does it even mean for me to "shit on you analysis" lol. Anyway, have fun with thinking I'm scum, and please go look for my teammate so you're not wasting all the time in the case you are town. Please and thank you.

Also, genuine question: Have you read the whole game?

---

- I agree with Quin though (gasp, and a couple of others) that lapluie's waffling around his self vote didn't look great. If someone could give me an example of Lapluie as scum I would be forever grateful.

- Kyle being killed is also weird. I would assume scum would be interested to get rid of the semi-cop sooner rather than later. Kyle, however, was the only one (that I know of) who revealed himself not to be Gladys by asking who that was. So killing him was kind of sure to not hit Gladys. So either scum doesn't care, or they are not paying a lot of attention. Thoughts on this?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 12:15 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:56 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:49 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:31 pm You’re gonna have to flesh that tinfoil out a little bit, Scotty.

It’s wax paper, not tin foil.

I’ll get to it tomorrow but even still, why are you acting so surprised?

Why wouldn’t I be surprised...?

I’ve already called you out on things yesterday so it seems like you’re taking my accusation as if it’s out of the blue, when in reality I know you’re playing dumb because you responded to it

I’m more curious about the lap-Colin scum theory, considering neither of us have flipped anything. And even without hearing it ... da fuq?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 1:05 amI'm open. I have no time to do my own digging, but you should assemble a larger case.

This is not a time for doubt, this is a time for love. But for real, I would not have let any of these two kills go through if I was scum. Call it wifom, but that is just the truth. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Also, lol at Colin calling MP out for being cordial. Cause that also makes me paranoid every time I play with him.

Also also, did anyone understand Epig's point about Wolbre? Something about a mistake that maybe wasn't a mistake. I never understood what the problem was there.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:16 am Also also, did anyone understand Epig's point about Wolbre? Something about a mistake that maybe wasn't a mistake. I never understood what the problem was there.

Wolbre included Choutas twice in a rainbow list and claimed it was a mistake. In Assassination Classroom, scum wolbre made a similar “mistake” that you would expect a scum to simply not do and got away with it. So the thinking is, wolbre was trying to duplicate that idea.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:18 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:16 am Also also, did anyone understand Epig's point about Wolbre? Something about a mistake that maybe wasn't a mistake. I never understood what the problem was there.

Wolbre included Choutas twice in a rainbow list and claimed it was a mistake. In Assassination Classroom, scum wolbre made a similar “mistake” that you would expect a scum to simply not do and got away with it. So the thinking is, wolbre was trying to duplicate that idea.

Was it that? I thought it was a different mistake Epi talked about, something about mistaking what Epi said in a different game for something he had said here. Pretty sure that was it. [mention]Charlie Blackmon[/mention] can you explain, please?

I think I'm back at Marmot, Epi and maybe Eloh as suspects. Quin is ugh.

Jimmeey, MP and Colin seems town. Scotty aslo seems town, though I haven't really been around at the same time with him so don't have a great feeling either way.

If I'm Gladys Campbell I got a negative result, which is unhelpful since there are more non-dentists than dentists left.

Reading back my own ISOs I goofed on MP
and meant to quote this post, my bad:

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:45 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:42 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:41 pm I understand all of that, but townies make patently horrible and illogical moves all the time. You get where I'm going with this.

I don't think it's "illogical". It's nothing. Do you know of a civilian motive?

I disagree. Civilian motive is a chaotic civilian motive but the possibility exists nonetheless. I'm not saying Dizzy is town; I'm just saying it's basically NAI. And my gut weakly says it's too openly brazen to be a scum move.

I don't like how you much tunnel vision you're exhibiting this game. Townies do dumb shit all the time. Somehow you seem to have forgotten that.

No! Rip Kyle.

Dizzy I think you’re right, I’m conflating Charlie’s “mistake” point with the other one about the reads list. This is why you don’t play Mafia before you’ve had your coffee

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 91#p450866

[VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine fornow.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:37 am [VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine fornow.

Having just seen her flip in U-Pick with similar play, and the problems I outlined, I’m inclined to agree.

[VOTE: ELOHCIN] aubergine

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:34 am Dizzy I think you’re right, I’m conflating Charlie’s “mistake” point with the other one about the reads list. This is why you don’t play Mafia before you’ve had your coffee

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 91#p450866

Yeah. And I didn't get and still don't get the relevance of this being AI for Wolbre. I know he's dead and we're moving on, I just don't get it as a reason and I expect a lot from Epi in general, so I don't think it looks good. And also he just needs to come in and solve the game already.

Also also, I have to mention [mention]owner of a lonely heart here now[/mention]. Cause she had a silly, but totally accurate, scum tell on me for a while, in that I mentioned coffee or needing my coffee every time I was scum. So I'm getting genuinely paranoid about you now, maybe it seems silly and I won't read into it too much.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:39 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:37 am [VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine fornow.

Having just seen her flip in U-Pick with similar play, and the problems I outlined, I’m inclined to agree.

[VOTE: ELOHCIN] aubergine

Mental note to check this out later.

I will

[VOTE: Charlie] aubergine

To start a new trend in the meantime.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:24 am I think I'm back at Marmot, Epi and maybe Eloh as suspects. Quin is ugh.

Jimmeey, MP and Colin seems town. Scotty aslo seems town, though I haven't really been around at the same time with him so don't have a great feeling either way.

If I'm Gladys Campbell I got a negative result, which is unhelpful since there are more non-dentists than dentists left.

A negative result on who?

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

For the moment the loudest things in the thread to me are Choutas's "Mac is right into the role" and Marmot's "I got a mafia role card".

I'm still doing travel things for a few days. I may be able to provide more thorough input later tonight, but I cannot make promises.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 9:27 am [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

For the moment the loudest things in the thread to me are Choutas's "Mac is right into the role" and Marmot's "I got a mafia role card".

I'm still doing travel things for a few days. I may be able to provide more thorough input later tonight, but I cannot make promises.

[VOTE:
Marmot] aubergine

I want to build this wagon.

I'm a little lost in this game as I put most of my time and thought into the other game i was in and just got lynched in. I hate that too, because this is the type of game I really enjoy (smaller) and would have loved to give it my all. Just with gut reads, I am thinking Dyslexicon or MP could be bad. I think I said I trusted MP in the beginning, but have since changed my mind. I could vote either of those today. However, I could be convinced to vote elsewhere as well with a good theory. Like I said, I didn't invest in this game much and am now regretting it.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 10:01 am I'm a little lost in this game as I put most of my time and thought into the other game i was in and just got lynched in. I hate that too, because this is the type of game I really enjoy (smaller) and would have loved to give it my all. Just with gut reads, I am thinking Dyslexicon or MP could be bad. I think I said I trusted MP in the beginning, but have since changed my mind. I could vote either of those today. However, I could be convinced to vote elsewhere as well with a good theory. Like I said, I didn't invest in this game much and am now regretting it.

What about Dizzy or MP do you dislike?

Ok I’ll play the WIFOM musical chairs with marmot

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

Quin wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:38 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:31 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:27 pm Still all in on dizzy being the big bad.

I missed your explanation. Can you sum it up, or am I going digging later?

He shit on my nova night kill analysis.

I did look it up and that’s about the argument you made. Devil’s advocate for dizzy- you were the main supporter of the nova kill being strategic (and I backed it up)

But it’s just like..a meh case. It’s like he looked at your cornflakes weirdly and you’re attempting to sell us that he spit in them. I dunno, I’m not seeing it

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 10:01 am I'm a little lost in this game as I put most of my time and thought into the other game i was in and just got lynched in. I hate that too, because this is the type of game I really enjoy (smaller) and would have loved to give it my all. Just with gut reads, I am thinking Dyslexicon or MP could be bad. I think I said I trusted MP in the beginning, but have since changed my mind. I could vote either of those today. However, I could be convinced to vote elsewhere as well with a good theory. Like I said, I didn't invest in this game much and am now regretting it.

So I know you're saying you're not invested. But what has your progression on me been like? What in particular makes you think I could be scum now? And have you read the entire game?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 11:54 amI did look it up and that’s about the argument you made. Devil’s advocate for dizzy- you were the main supporter of the nova kill being strategic (and I backed it up)

But it’s just like..a meh case. It’s like he looked at your cornflakes weirdly and you’re attempting to sell us that he spit in them. I dunno, I’m not seeing it

I've forgotten you did this. Also, I don't need a devil's advocate. What's the accusation, that I'm thinking about the game? o.o

What makes Scotty town again? : p

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 12:14 pm What makes Scotty town again? : p

For me it’s that he seems pretty similar to his town play in AG the more I see of it, but he’s going to have to flesh out some of these ideas he has and soon.

Scotty handled Choutas well.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 12:10 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 11:54 amI did look it up and that’s about the argument you made. Devil’s advocate for dizzy- you were the main supporter of the nova kill being strategic (and I backed it up)

But it’s just like..a meh case. It’s like he looked at your cornflakes weirdly and you’re attempting to sell us that he spit in them. I dunno, I’m not seeing it

I've forgotten you did this. Also, I don't need a devil's advocate. What's the accusation, that I'm thinking about the game? o.o

Huh? Quin accused you of muddying up his explanation of the nova kill, im saying it’s a meh case

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 12:14 pm What makes Scotty town again? : p

I’m never quite sure

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 12:30 pm Scotty handled Choutas well.

No? I just looked through his ISO and there wasn't much mention of Coutas other than wanting him to say more, voting early (RVS, but then voting Floyd. Still think he's likely town though, but yeah.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 12:28 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 12:14 pm What makes Scotty town again? : p

For me it’s that he seems pretty similar to his town play in AG the more I see of it, but he’s going to have to flesh out some of these ideas he has and soon.

I’ve already said I think you look suspicious for how you subtly defended choutas on day 1 by proffering that there were better options while rolling your eyes and placing a vote there. You showed up to a friend’s house, and when he handed you a cold refreshing glass of Sunny D, you told him you’d drink it even though it tastes like cat urine

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 12:46 pmHuh? Quin accused you of muddying up his explanation of the nova kill, im saying it’s a meh case