The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:44 pm It's certainly a gamble. If sloonei is town after all losing him would be a significant hot to the thread activity and we'd all have to step it up. But, if he's bad he's all the more dangerous with his influence.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:39 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 8:58 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 8:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:31 pmWhat makes me bad here sloonbug? There's only appropriate response.

Lack of effort

Wrong answer cutie.

What is the correct answer? Like what were you looking for

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:45 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:41 am Wilgy's posts so far have been contentless and just a bunch of fluffing. Vastly different from how he played last game which he subbed into late game but was still engaging with the players and trying to produce.

I don't really care if his posts were all in D0, doesn't mean anything. One can still try and do a bunch of townie things in D0, you just can't lynch anybody.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

This is exactly why wilgy was second from the bottom on my rainbow list.

He’s done this before as both alignments, but I feel like I’ve seen it more often from scum wilgy. His lethargic hounding of me feels very empty; I don’t get the sense he actually has a reason for doing it. Come at me, @DrWilgy

Or don’t, and say other things instead.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:44 pm It's certainly a gamble. If sloonei is town after all losing him would be a significant hot to the thread activity and we'd all have to step it up. But, if he's bad he's all the more dangerous with his influence.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:44 pm It's certainly a gamble. If sloonei is town after all losing him would be a significant hot to the thread activity and we'd all have to step it up. But, if he's bad he's all the more dangerous with his influence.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:46 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 2:39 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 8:58 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 8:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:31 pmWhat makes me bad here sloonbug? There's only appropriate response.

Lack of effort

Wrong answer cutie.

What is the correct answer? Like what were you looking for

I was looking for gut.

Sloonei should know that my playstyle or lack there of, or even lack of energy shouldnt have any visible alignment determining qualities. He somewhat hinted at this in the comment below:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:45 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:41 am Wilgy's posts so far have been contentless and just a bunch of fluffing. Vastly different from how he played last game which he subbed into late game but was still engaging with the players and trying to produce.

I don't really care if his posts were all in D0, doesn't mean anything. One can still try and do a bunch of townie things in D0, you just can't lynch anybody.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

This is exactly why wilgy was second from the bottom on my rainbow list.

He’s done this before as both alignments, but I feel like I’ve seen it more often from scum wilgy. His lethargic hounding of me feels very empty; I don’t get the sense he actually has a reason for doing it. Come at me, @DrWilgy

Or don’t, and say other things instead.

To which I respond "no"

BUUUUUT the ultimate correct answer is gut. Anything else indicates to me a fabrication.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:44 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:44 pm It's certainly a gamble. If sloonei is town after all losing him would be a significant hot to the thread activity and we'd all have to step it up. But, if he's bad he's all the more dangerous with his influence.

Significant hit* lol

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:53 pm First page of Sloonei's ISO:

"Elaborate"
"Game rules"
"Why?"
"Game rules"
"Elaborate"
"Explain"
"Game rules"
"Single town ping statement"
"Elaborate"
"Why?"
"Elaborate"

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:48 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:44 pm It's certainly a gamble. If sloonei is town after all losing him would be a significant hot to the thread activity and we'd all have to step it up. But, if he's bad he's all the more dangerous with his influence.

For what reasons is Sloonei bad?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:58 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:48 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:44 pm It's certainly a gamble. If sloonei is town after all losing him would be a significant hot to the thread activity and we'd all have to step it up. But, if he's bad he's all the more dangerous with his influence.

For what reasons is Sloonei bad?

Gut.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:57 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:53 pm First page of Sloonei's ISO:

"Elaborate"
"Game rules"
"Why?"
"Game rules"
"Elaborate"
"Explain"
"Game rules"
"Single town ping statement"
"Elaborate"
"Why?"
"Elaborate"

And?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:59 pm But yeah speed and whoever else said you have seemed stiff and asking so many questions it seems like you're just trying to keep up the appearance of the sloonei who asks many questions.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:44 pm It's certainly a gamble. If sloonei is town after all losing him would be a significant hot to the thread activity and we'd all have to step it up. But, if he's bad he's all the more dangerous with his influence.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:01 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:44 pm It's certainly a gamble. If sloonei is town after all losing him would be a significant hot to the thread activity and we'd all have to step it up. But, if he's bad he's all the more dangerous with his influence.

@Sloonei Bad wishy washy or good wishy washy? I'm leaning on bad.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 2:23 am You guys what if I make 200 posts before Day 1 even starts?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:02 pm And the way you presented the case on me, and to a lesser extent the case on lux, felt disingenuous. Not sure I can explain why but there were parts I didn't believe you believed and the way you led up to them seemed like fishing for reactions in a devious/nervous way. And then there's the gth debacle.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:05 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 2:23 am You guys what if I make 200 posts before Day 1 even starts?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:04 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:01 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:44 pm It's certainly a gamble. If sloonei is town after all losing him would be a significant hot to the thread activity and we'd all have to step it up. But, if he's bad he's all the more dangerous with his influence.

@Sloonei Bad wishy washy or good wishy washy? I'm leaning on bad.

I feel more bad about speedchuck’s than nutella’s?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:16 pm I've mindmelded with nutella a lot, but I mesh with this current accusation of her as well. "It probably won't work" or "I might be wrong and it's a gamble that would hurt town" is a really off reason not to lynch someone.

Since when did nutella need to consider other opinions?

I'm trying to decide if this comes from a scum perspective in a multi-team game. Is this idea of 'eh, it's a gamble, not worth' influenced by the speaker having possible access to a nightkill?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:12 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:04 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:01 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:44 pm It's certainly a gamble. If sloonei is town after all losing him would be a significant hot to the thread activity and we'd all have to step it up. But, if he's bad he's all the more dangerous with his influence.

@Sloonei Bad wishy washy or good wishy washy? I'm leaning on bad.

I feel more bad about speedchuck’s than nutella’s?

Speed's doesn't really sway either way. Nutella's posts their I really don't like though. She's being very hesitant on whether or not to lynch you. She has a scum read on you, but is trying to find an excuse to not push for you because you might be town and big blow to the faction. She ain't trying to get her hands dirty against you by pushing and leading a wagon on you. She wants support and insight on whether or not it's a good thing to push for you and that sort of approach is one like a wolf trying to test for a possible mislynch they can get on. If they have the town's ok on it, it'd be fine(or at least a few ppl's insight so they look terribly bad for redirection a wholeass lynch on you).

I know I did something similar in the scrimmage where I asked players if they wanna lynch x player but I was chill, non-chalant about it. Here she's iffy and it's not a good look. I also understand that she thinks townies should be hesitant, but imo that hesitance is only ok when it's the good wishy washy, trying to figure out if a person's posts make them town or scum. This hesitance is bad wishy washy.

What do you think?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:58 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:58 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:48 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:44 pm It's certainly a gamble. If sloonei is town after all losing him would be a significant hot to the thread activity and we'd all have to step it up. But, if he's bad he's all the more dangerous with his influence.

For what reasons is Sloonei bad?

Gut.

So bold, so courageous.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:24 am Okay, I super townread Mac, Nutella, and Ultra coming into D0, and was wary of or lightly scumreading sloonei.

What's up? What's changed?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:59 pm But yeah speed and whoever else said you have seemed stiff and asking so many questions it seems like you're just trying to keep up the appearance of the sloonei who asks many questions.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:22 pm Sloonei is self resolving. Why would you ever lynch him D1 in a multiball game where he’s in tryhard mode? Even if he’s scum, the other scum team will shoot him eventually.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:24 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:22 pm Sloonei is self resolving. Why would you ever lynch him D1 in a multiball game where he’s in tryhard mode? Even if he’s scum, the other scum team will shoot him eventually.

I think this is part of nutella’s argument not to lynch me. But not a big enough part.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:24 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:22 pm Sloonei is self resolving. Why would you ever lynch him D1 in a multiball game where he’s in tryhard mode? Even if he’s scum, the other scum team will shoot him eventually.

I think this is part of nutella’s argument not to lynch me. But not a big enough part.

And her argument to lynch you literally included the words “I’m not sure if I can explain it” which might as well translate to “some people suspect Sloonei and I would lynch him if people do suspect him because he isn’t on my team.”

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:29 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:24 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:22 pm Sloonei is self resolving. Why would you ever lynch him D1 in a multiball game where he’s in tryhard mode? Even if he’s scum, the other scum team will shoot him eventually.

I think this is part of nutella’s argument not to lynch me. But not a big enough part.

And her argument to lynch you literally included the words “I’m not sure if I can explain it” which might as well translate to “some people suspect Sloonei and I would lynch him if people do suspect him because he isn’t on my team.”

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:16 pm I've mindmelded with nutella a lot, but I mesh with this current accusation of her as well. "It probably won't work" or "I might be wrong and it's a gamble that would hurt town" is a really off reason not to lynch someone.

Since when did nutella need to consider other opinions?

I'm trying to decide if this comes from a scum perspective in a multi-team game. Is this idea of 'eh, it's a gamble, not worth' influenced by the speaker having possible access to a nightkill?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:29 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:24 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:22 pm Sloonei is self resolving. Why would you ever lynch him D1 in a multiball game where he’s in tryhard mode? Even if he’s scum, the other scum team will shoot him eventually.

I think this is part of nutella’s argument not to lynch me. But not a big enough part.

And her argument to lynch you literally included the words “I’m not sure if I can explain it” which might as well translate to “some people suspect Sloonei and I would lynch him if people do suspect him because he isn’t on my team.”

What, Sloonei? Just sheep me come on.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:32 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:16 pm I've mindmelded with nutella a lot, but I mesh with this current accusation of her as well. "It probably won't work" or "I might be wrong and it's a gamble that would hurt town" is a really off reason not to lynch someone.

Since when did nutella need to consider other opinions?

I'm trying to decide if this comes from a scum perspective in a multi-team game. Is this idea of 'eh, it's a gamble, not worth' influenced by the speaker having possible access to a nightkill?

Why is this a big deal? I'm absolutely willing to pursue my suspicion of sloonei,but I also retain some wariness that I might be wrong. What's wrong with that?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:32 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:16 pm I've mindmelded with nutella a lot, but I mesh with this current accusation of her as well. "It probably won't work" or "I might be wrong and it's a gamble that would hurt town" is a really off reason not to lynch someone.

Since when did nutella need to consider other opinions?

I'm trying to decide if this comes from a scum perspective in a multi-team game. Is this idea of 'eh, it's a gamble, not worth' influenced by the speaker having possible access to a nightkill?

Why is this a big deal? I'm absolutely willing to pursue my suspicion of sloonei,but I also retain some wariness that I might be wrong. What's wrong with that?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:18 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:16 pm I've mindmelded with nutella a lot, but I mesh with this current accusation of her as well. "It probably won't work" or "I might be wrong and it's a gamble that would hurt town" is a really off reason not to lynch someone.

Since when did nutella need to consider other opinions?

I'm trying to decide if this comes from a scum perspective in a multi-team game. Is this idea of 'eh, it's a gamble, not worth' influenced by the speaker having possible access to a nightkill?

What did you guys mindmeld on?

Why does the it being a multi-ball affect what perspective she's in?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:35 pm I'm sure there's a scum in Sloonei, Luxy, and Nutella. Might even be all 3 tbh.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:33 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:29 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:24 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:22 pm Sloonei is self resolving. Why would you ever lynch him D1 in a multiball game where he’s in tryhard mode? Even if he’s scum, the other scum team will shoot him eventually.

I think this is part of nutella’s argument not to lynch me. But not a big enough part.

And her argument to lynch you literally included the words “I’m not sure if I can explain it” which might as well translate to “some people suspect Sloonei and I would lynch him if people do suspect him because he isn’t on my team.”

What, Sloonei? Just sheep me come on.

nutella is doing things that I can see civilian nutella doing.
nutella is also doing things that could be calculated mafia moves.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:35 pm I'm sure there's a scum in Sloonei, Luxy, and Nutella. Might even be all 3 tbh.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:36 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:33 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:29 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:24 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:22 pm Sloonei is self resolving. Why would you ever lynch him D1 in a multiball game where he’s in tryhard mode? Even if he’s scum, the other scum team will shoot him eventually.

I think this is part of nutella’s argument not to lynch me. But not a big enough part.

And her argument to lynch you literally included the words “I’m not sure if I can explain it” which might as well translate to “some people suspect Sloonei and I would lynch him if people do suspect him because he isn’t on my team.”

What, Sloonei? Just sheep me come on.

nutella is doing things that I can see civilian nutella doing.
nutella is also doing things that could be calculated mafia moves.

Which do you think is the case?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:34 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:32 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:16 pm I've mindmelded with nutella a lot, but I mesh with this current accusation of her as well. "It probably won't work" or "I might be wrong and it's a gamble that would hurt town" is a really off reason not to lynch someone.

Since when did nutella need to consider other opinions?

I'm trying to decide if this comes from a scum perspective in a multi-team game. Is this idea of 'eh, it's a gamble, not worth' influenced by the speaker having possible access to a nightkill?

Why is this a big deal? I'm absolutely willing to pursue my suspicion of sloonei,but I also retain some wariness that I might be wrong. What's wrong with that?

Since when do you ever do that?
<snip>

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:37 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 1:35 pm I'm sure there's a scum in Sloonei, Luxy, and Nutella. Might even be all 3 tbh.

The top three posters in the thread, in order. Exposure bias?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 12:48 pm I guess I should probably read Sloonei's ISO.