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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:16 pm
by Gavial
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:29 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:27 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:26 am
Im gonna say this. Falcon is treating Gavial like a bad townie, not like scum.
Falcon is scum
I wish i could believe i can play with you without fear of being trolled.
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:27 am
Therefore, Falcon either townreads Gavia or knows Gavial is town.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:33 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:24 am
I actually think Falcon’s responses to Gav on my page 29 are kinda wolfy.
Like I can understand being frustrated with the way Gav solves but actually baiting him like that is a thing that wolves have a tendency to do over townies.
I don't think Gav is solving, I think he's scum.
I feel I've mentioned this several times.
@Guillotine
Lol.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:17 pm
by Gavial
Looks like Falcon clears me too!
Sweet!
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:18 pm
by Gavial
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:29 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:24 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:23 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:10 am
Like look at a readslist in a wolf game of mine and compare it to my town one.
You aren’t even going to respond to what I said before Falcon are you? Your just gonna sit there with a grin on your face and discredit me.
Most of the stuff you have been doing Falcon is what the wolf you would do, why’s that? @falcon45ca
I don't believe you would game solve the same way you normally do as wolf...remember the F3? Yeah you do.
Oh, and I've already said this.
Yes I do.
I planned the entire thing. Does anything I've done look planned to you?
Gav, rarely do the things you do look very well planned to me. You are a roiling ball of chaos.
And again I'll say, I feel
you'd play this game differently as wolf.
But you wolf read me?
OMFL your so fucking caught
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:21 pm
by Gavial
Does this:
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:29 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:24 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:23 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:10 am
Like look at a readslist in a wolf game of mine and compare it to my town one.
You aren’t even going to respond to what I said before Falcon are you? Your just gonna sit there with a grin on your face and discredit me.
Most of the stuff you have been doing Falcon is what the wolf you would do, why’s that? @falcon45ca
I don't believe you would game solve the same way you normally do as wolf...remember the F3? Yeah you do.
Oh, and I've already said this.
Yes I do.
I planned the entire thing. Does anything I've done look planned to you?
Gav, rarely do the things you do look very well planned to me. You are a roiling ball of chaos.
And again I'll say, I feel
you'd play this game differently as wolf.
And this:
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:33 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:24 am
I actually think Falcon’s responses to Gav on my page 29 are kinda wolfy.
Like I can understand being frustrated with the way Gav solves but actually baiting him like that is a thing that wolves have a tendency to do over townies.
I don't think Gav is solving, I think he's scum.
I feel I've mentioned this several times.
Actually make sense to anyone playing this game?
No it doesn’t, this is contradictory.
Why would town do this?
@MacDougall
I want you to look at this especially.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:21 pm
by Gavial
Lol I did that wrong but it’s still readable.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:22 pm
by Gavial
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:17 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:34 am
4 of Sabie, Mac, Falcon, Nanook, LinearPoint, Guillotine, Dolby. That's the winning PoE, calling it now.
If you're taken aback "WOAH, I'm town"... Yes, 42.9% of you are.
You scum read me? That is odd because you’ve been treating me like you townread me.
I’d switch Dolby and LP with TSP and Jack and it’s good.
@NotAnAxehole
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:23 pm
by Gavial
Jack has gotten better but like it’s Jack and he hasn’t flipped town yet so.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:24 pm
by Gavial
I’d definitely do Jack only if the PoE has been taken care of tbh.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:25 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:22 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:17 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:34 am
4 of Sabie, Mac, Falcon, Nanook, LinearPoint, Guillotine, Dolby. That's the winning PoE, calling it now.
If you're taken aback "WOAH, I'm town"... Yes, 42.9% of you are.
You scum read me? That is odd because you’ve been treating me like you townread me.
I’d switch Dolby and LP with TSP and Jack and it’s good.
@NotAnAxehole
I didn't ask
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:27 pm
by Gavial
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:33 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:26 am
Im gonna say this. Falcon is treating Gavial like a bad townie, not like scum.
He's part of my POE. I don't feel the need to aggressively pursue anyone in my list til next RD.
NAA, Nook, Gav
FUCK Falcon thinks ima fucking serial killer or something…
His read on me makes absolutely no sense and I’m not even sure myself what he actually reads me as.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:28 pm
by Gavial
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:25 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:22 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:17 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:34 am
4 of Sabie, Mac, Falcon, Nanook, LinearPoint, Guillotine, Dolby. That's the winning PoE, calling it now.
If you're taken aback "WOAH, I'm town"... Yes, 42.9% of you are.
You scum read me? That is odd because you’ve been treating me like you townread me.
I’d switch Dolby and LP with TSP and Jack and it’s good.
@NotAnAxehole
I didn't ask
Of course you didn’t.
The great Gavial is just giving you guidance.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:31 pm
by NotAnAxehole
TBH, we need more single vote wagons.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:03 pm
by LinearPoint
Signle vote wagons are useless and only hurt town.
Mafia Sniper needs 2 votes to be thrown off their aim.
Town Sniper needs 1.
Asking for single vote wagons is just saying to RB all Town vigilantes so only Mafia vigilantes can attack tonight.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:06 pm
by LinearPoint
Plus we already have TSP claiming Sniper.
So that leaves just a single Sniper left.
We need to try and guess who is the last Sniper and double vote them so that they can't shoot.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:09 pm
by LinearPoint
Hopefully Mafia Sniper is just Sabie though.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:10 pm
by Dolby
yo
NAA is on Guillo with exactly 1 vote after Guillo did a certain thing
tbh I think that's greedy town lmao, and I'd discourage him from being on Guillo at Eod
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:10 pm
by Dolby
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:09 pm
Hopefully Mafia Sniper is just Sabie though.
mafia doesn't neccessarily have a sniper
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:12 pm
by LinearPoint
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:10 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:09 pm
Hopefully Mafia Sniper is just Sabie though.
mafia doesn't neccessarily have a sniper
Yeah but best case scenario is they do and it's Sabie.
That removes the hidden Sniper from the game and since they odds of them shooting Town tonight are very high that'd be good to kill Sniper as soon as possible.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:14 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:10 pm
yo
NAA is on Guillo with exactly 1 vote after Guillo did a certain thing
tbh I think that's greedy town lmao, and I'd discourage him from being on Guillo at Eod
I think Guillo is fake claiming to be honest, but it's not really worth the risk because he's a player who would 100% target me if he has a role, whereas everyone else is a bit more up in the air.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:19 pm
by LinearPoint
It should be obvious if he is fake claiming or not based on the number of kills tonight.
If NAA doesn't die and there are only 2-3 kills we know 2-1 Snipers/Spies didn't kill.
TSP is already claiming Sniper who can't shoot since they aimed at Sabie.
And with Guillio claiming Spy attacking NAA we should expect 3 kills.
If there is only 2 deaths and neither is NAA its probably just because Medic healed NAA for some reason.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:20 pm
by Dolby
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:19 pm
It should be obvious if he is fake claiming or not based on the number of kills tonight.
If NAA doesn't die and there are only 2-3 kills we know 2-1 Snipers/Spies didn't kill.
TSP is already claiming Sniper who can't shoot since they aimed at Sabie.
And with Guillio claiming Spy attacking NAA we should expect 3 kills.
If there is only 2 deaths and neither is NAA its probably just because Medic healed NAA for some reason.
pretty ure guillo being voted rn makes his shot blocked
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:21 pm
by LinearPoint
Not unless NAA is Pyro.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:24 pm
by NotAnAxehole
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:21 pm
Not unless NAA is Pyro.
Are you claiming Sniper?
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:25 pm
by LinearPoint
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:24 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:21 pm
Not unless NAA is Pyro.
Are you claiming Sniper?
Nah, fam, I'd never play a class with such low skill expression as point and click adventure.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:27 pm
by NotAnAxehole
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:21 pm
Not unless NAA is Pyro.
This isn't the only thing, but LP has a few posts that seem like TMI who the second sniper is.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:29 pm
by LinearPoint
Meh, you can assume I'm a Sniper if you wish.
Doesn't change what I'm planning on doing.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:30 pm
by NotAnAxehole
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:29 pm
Meh, you can assume I'm a Sniper if you wish.
Doesn't change what I'm planning on doing.
You misunderstand what I'm saying.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:32 pm
by LinearPoint
Honestly, not sure what you are saying.
Because like, all I get from saying I have TMI on who the second sniper is makes it sound like you're the Sniper.
And like there's never a world we're both Mafia.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:34 pm
by NotAnAxehole
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:32 pm
Honestly, not sure what you are saying.
Because like, all I get from saying I have TMI on who the second sniper is makes it sound like you're the Sniper.
And like there's never a world we're both Mafia.
If I had KP I wouldn't be voting Guillotine right now.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:35 pm
by LinearPoint
Or maybe you do have KP and you're voting him to gigabrain and countersnipe him.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:40 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
i'll doublevote anyone who claims to be a wolf sniper rn
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:41 pm
by LinearPoint
I mean if we are being completely honest everyone who is voting for Sabie has 2 votes already on them.
Heavies absolutely just always minigun Sabie to get extra votes on everyone to throw off snipers.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:42 pm
by falcon45ca
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:03 pm
Signle vote wagons are useless and only hurt town.
Mafia Sniper needs 2 votes to be thrown off their aim.
Town Sniper needs 1.
Asking for single vote wagons is just saying to RB all Town vigilantes so only Mafia vigilantes can attack tonight.
Wait, what?
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:43 pm
by LinearPoint
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:42 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:03 pm
Signle vote wagons are useless and only hurt town.
Mafia Sniper needs 2 votes to be thrown off their aim.
Town Sniper needs 1.
Asking for single vote wagons is just saying to RB all Town vigilantes so only Mafia vigilantes can attack tonight.
Wait, what?
What do you mean what?
If Town sniper gets 1 vote, they can not shoot.
Mafia Sniper needs to get 2 votes before they can no longer shoot. If they get just 1 vote, they can still shoot.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:43 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:41 pm
I mean if we are being completely honest everyone who is voting for Sabie has 2 votes already on them.
Heavies absolutely just always minigun Sabie to get extra votes on everyone to throw off snipers.
i was trying to avoid verbalizing it but yeah
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:45 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
anyways barring mafia having zero foresight here i think that sabie's flip is sorta obvious, no?
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:46 pm
by LinearPoint
In terms of alignment yeah, but I don't think I saw Sabie soft any role.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:46 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
not about what's there, it's about what's not
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:47 pm
by LinearPoint
Also the fact they never posted today pretty much means even if there was doubt about them being Mafia they just confirm it by avoiding spewing anything.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:47 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I might be making speculations that are somewhat foolhardy i guess but just to pass the time
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:48 pm
by LinearPoint
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:46 pm
not about what's there, it's about what's not
Sorry I'm an oblivious slowpoke.
What?
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:52 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
ok I have made some bad jumps in logic, but I thought the red pyro since no one entered martin's base and if it's not sabie then they're outed once we mass claim
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:54 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
this assumes that everyone reads mech plans and follows them and also that I correctly read the mech plan
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:55 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
also just occurred to me that wilgy fits the bill on "unlikely to read mech plans"
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:56 pm
by LinearPoint
Honestly I should have though of it earlier, but Gullio should have probably actually chekced Wiggly today to see if he is Pyro and which color.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:57 pm
by LinearPoint
He's probably not going to get on to do that though.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:58 pm
by LinearPoint
Since we only have one outed engie, we also don't know if the Blue Pyro followed the plan either.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:58 pm
by LinearPoint
Though I'm not sure it matters since we're just not doing the plan anyways.
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:03 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
the plan is dead long live the plan
Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:11 pm
by LinearPoint
They say plans never survive first contact.