MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:13 pm
God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.
They were a perfectly cromulent chop.
Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:15 pm
by MacDougall
Does anyone have the final poll?
Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:15 pm
by Bereft
Aighhhghvhbbnnnmmmmhfrstfygghuuef
Sorry I lost my composure.
I caught up to D2. Mac claims they dont like the way I justified my fingersplints vote. That is all.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:13 pm
God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.
They were a perfectly cromulent chop.
In the sense of likelihood to flip mafia sure but not in the sense of making day 1 good for retrospective analysis.
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:08 pm
What caused the sudden change from "Don't kill Alison this is just how she plays" to "Let's get Alison's head. NOW."
There is a concept in mafia known as "resolving the counterwagon". The idea is that by flipping the top two wagons D1, if one is town and the other is mafia, we can out the whole mafia team by analyzing who was on which wagon. The weakness of this strategy is if both players flip town, which gives us two fruitless days and nothing to show for it. In this case, however, if I flip town I am guaranteed to out multiple mafia with me so it's a good trade.
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:08 pm
What caused the sudden change from "Don't kill Alison this is just how she plays" to "Let's get Alison's head. NOW."
There is a concept in mafia known as "resolving the counterwagon". The idea is that by flipping the top two wagons D1, if one is town and the other is mafia, we can out the whole mafia team by analyzing who was on which wagon. The weakness of this strategy is if both players flip town, which gives us two fruitless days and nothing to show for it. In this case, however, if I flip town I am guaranteed to out multiple mafia with me so it's a good trade.
I think the proposed strategy is logical.
See what I mean? She's letting me kill her for free. I'm not even one of the people outed. It's beautiful.
I also said to kill you if you don't get a pelt at some point but I know people will not listen so whatever.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:13 pm
God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.
They were a perfectly cromulent chop.
In the sense of likelihood to flip mafia sure but not in the sense of making day 1 good for retrospective analysis.
If you had wagoned Roxy the game would already be over
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:08 pm
What caused the sudden change from "Don't kill Alison this is just how she plays" to "Let's get Alison's head. NOW."
There is a concept in mafia known as "resolving the counterwagon". The idea is that by flipping the top two wagons D1, if one is town and the other is mafia, we can out the whole mafia team by analyzing who was on which wagon. The weakness of this strategy is if both players flip town, which gives us two fruitless days and nothing to show for it. In this case, however, if I flip town I am guaranteed to out multiple mafia with me so it's a good trade.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:13 pm
God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.
They were a perfectly cromulent chop.
In the sense of likelihood to flip mafia sure but not in the sense of making day 1 good for retrospective analysis.
If you had wagoned Roxy the game would already be over
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:54 pm
Alison is doing a play by play exact replica of King of the Hill. I can't get over that lol its exactly the same.
I kinda town read the switch off on Kate but than I remembered that a very similar thing happened to the wolf team when I subbed out in KotH mafia for mental health reasons and they abandoned the Neon push because they thought my subbing out was town indicative because of the way it was done.
This is what I’ve been saying. It’s grossly blatant to the point when I’d actually agree with Tutuu on the bussing thing if I didn’t independently townread Sig and myself.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:13 pm
God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.
They were a perfectly cromulent chop.
In the sense of likelihood to flip mafia sure but not in the sense of making day 1 good for retrospective analysis.
Yeah but there was no NK so the wolves didn’t profit from the day. It’s essentially the same game state.
Feel free to hop on the wagon with all the people you thought were sketchy I guess.
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:54 pm
Alison is doing a play by play exact replica of King of the Hill. I can't get over that lol its exactly the same.
I kinda town read the switch off on Kate but than I remembered that a very similar thing happened to the wolf team when I subbed out in KotH mafia for mental health reasons and they abandoned the Neon push because they thought my subbing out was town indicative because of the way it was done.
This is what I’ve been saying. It’s grossly blatant to the point when I’d actually agree with Tutuu on the bussing thing if I didn’t independently townread Sig and myself.
hate this post regardless of alison's alignment
[VOTE:
jack] aubergine
Yes but the only reason you hate it is because you have a brain and Jack is a wolf, did you consider that??
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:13 pm
God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.
They were a perfectly cromulent chop.
In the sense of likelihood to flip mafia sure but not in the sense of making day 1 good for retrospective analysis.
Yeah but there was no NK so the wolves didn’t profit from the day. It’s essentially the same game state.
Feel free to hop on the wagon with all the people you thought were sketchy I guess.
Tutuu was like my strongest townread butthead.
Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:20 pm
by Alison
It is on this page that people are finding out the difference between playing mafia optimally and playing mafia passionately.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:13 pm
God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.
They were a perfectly cromulent chop.
In the sense of likelihood to flip mafia sure but not in the sense of making day 1 good for retrospective analysis.
Yeah but there was no NK so the wolves didn’t profit from the day. It’s essentially the same game state.
Feel free to hop on the wagon with all the people you thought were sketchy I guess.
Tutuu was like my strongest townread butthead.
Mine too. Tutuu and I are gay together now.
Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:21 pm
by MacDougall
I am pretty sure Alison is mafia and is spewing Jack town so hard that it's designed to make us think she's reevaluated off of him as a partner. That is the level to which Mac thinks. It's tiring being me.
I want to kill Alison and then the people pushing her regardless of her flip
So im set on Alison > Jack > Sig atm
[VOTE:
Alison] aubergine
If alison is mafia im adding neon to this
If shes town neon is still cool
Seanzie too despite my townread on him and neon
If alison is mafia this will be rly spicy and lots of fun to solve
If shes town it will be a standard game, so im hoping mafia for more fun lol
What's connecting Neon to Alison again I forgor
Neon has done nothing but tunnel me for garbage reasons the whole game so if I flip town Neon should be hung from a hook.
Yes, what she said
And if alison is mafia neon and co could have been so confident because the mafia decided that alison should be Jesus and sacrifice herself for the greater good of the wolf team. So we'll have to evaluate the more prominent people who interacted with alison
Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:21 pm
by Alison
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:21 pm
I am pretty sure Alison is mafia and is spewing Jack town so hard that it's designed to make us think she's reevaluated off of him as a partner. That is the level to which Mac thinks. It's tiring being me.
This is going to be a really funny hindsight post after I flip.
Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:22 pm
by MacDougall
The correct thing for me to have done day 1 would have been to yolo vote out Alison tbh.
Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:22 pm
by Baudib1
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:20 pm
It is on this page that people are finding out the difference between playing mafia optimally and playing mafia passionately.
Listen if you yeet yourself out of this game and leave me here with 12 potatoes I will make angry copypastas about it postgame.
Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:23 pm
by Alison
Alright I'm going for dinner now since I planned around this game being on pause for 24 hours. Also I probably shouldn't use up my posts so much, it's like an hour into the day and I'm already 1/5 to cap. So see you all.
Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:23 pm
by MacDougall
Because we're partners and I'd have been allowed to endgame gifposting fart gifs obviously. Now I have to be held accountable when she flips mafia and deal with the tinfoil of the town such as *reads notes* Falcon and Seanzie.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:13 pm
God damn it I made a terrible mistake. Fingersplints was such a bad chop day 1 lol. I foolishly put my read over the health of the game.
They were a perfectly cromulent chop.
In the sense of likelihood to flip mafia sure but not in the sense of making day 1 good for retrospective analysis.
Yeah but there was no NK so the wolves didn’t profit from the day. It’s essentially the same game state.
Feel free to hop on the wagon with all the people you thought were sketchy I guess.
Tutuu was like my strongest townread butthead.
Mine too. Tutuu and I are gay together now.
Gay poly communist commune
Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:23 pm
by Creature
Alright who can be added to the town bin?
I have:
lucy
baudib1
tutuu
I am really vibing with spf
I guess I agree with spf that Dennis seems pretty genuine town
Would prob add falcon too for doing weird stuff last EOD but meh
Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:24 pm
by MacDougall
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:23 pm
Alright who can be added to the town bin?
I have:
lucy
baudib1
tutuu
I am really vibing with spf
I guess I agree with spf that Dennis seems pretty genuine town
Would prob add falcon too for doing weird stuff last EOD but meh
WHY DON'T YOU TOWNREAD ME ANYMORE YOU WERE TOWNREADING ME
Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:24 pm
by Baudib1
I woke like to hear opinions on Neon because I am completely lost (wolf signal).
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:23 pm
Alright who can be added to the town bin?
I have:
lucy
baudib1
tutuu
I am really vibing with spf
I guess I agree with spf that Dennis seems pretty genuine town
Would prob add falcon too for doing weird stuff last EOD but meh
WHY DON'T YOU TOWNREAD ME ANYMORE YOU WERE TOWNREADING ME
The betrayal! Where's my popcorn
Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:26 pm
by Alison
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:24 pm
I woke like to hear opinions on Neon because I am completely lost (wolf signal).
Woke soft, Baudib is a member of the liberals
Also I think the most important thing for me to do the rest of this day phase is to sort out the masses of weirdo slots that have done nothing and placed votes essentially at random but they can't all be mafia so I have to try to town clear some of them somehow to really lock in a win. Examples include Sig, Bereft, Falcon, Wilgy.
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:23 pm
Alright who can be added to the town bin?
I have:
lucy
baudib1
tutuu
I am really vibing with spf
I guess I agree with spf that Dennis seems pretty genuine town
Would prob add falcon too for doing weird stuff last EOD but meh
WHY DON'T YOU TOWNREAD ME ANYMORE YOU WERE TOWNREADING ME
I don't townread you I only wait to see whether you're hitting wolf or not to determine whether I let you live or not
Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:28 pm
by Dennis
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:24 pm
I woke like to hear opinions on Neon because I am completely lost (wolf signal).
She feels the same as the two other games I played with her when she was civ and she was kinda all over the place (sorry Neon). Though this game is wildly different and I think I've placed too much trust in her, I will revisit her.
Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:28 pm
by staypositivefriend
@lucy -
i think it's possible that this might be the same situation as d3 in da bois invitational but this time alison is you
and im in the same position too, but lacking confidence to assert the position on the chance that im wrong
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:24 pm
I woke like to hear opinions on Neon because I am completely lost (wolf signal).
Woke soft, Baudib is a member of the liberals
Also I think the most important thing for me to do the rest of this day phase is to sort out the masses of weirdo slots that have done nothing and placed votes essentially at random but they can't all be mafia so I have to try to town clear some of them somehow to really lock in a win. Examples include Sig, Bereft, Falcon, Wilgy.
I like Bereft a decent amount due to him actively calling out legitimately scummy posts from people who weren’t drawing any attention that felt genuine. Sig/Falcon/Wilgy can go imo.
Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:29 pm
by Dennis
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:25 pm
Oh I forgot Bereft existed
What do you all make out of them?
I have 0 opinions, I can't remember even one post they have made
Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:30 pm
by MacDougall
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:26 pm
i really hope that a wolf did that.
I am not sure this is a real thought.
Re: Cartomancy [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:30 pm
by Alison
You guys should policy Mac if he doesn't produce pelts soon by the way since he's wrong on both fingersplints and me which is pretty out of form for him.
