Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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yesKate wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:08 pmIs Chad, Chihiro?DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:24 pm I'm becoming pretty confident that Chad or Richard contains mafia
Well CRichard but I know your stance on them.
Hey do you think I care what you think?
read cr’s last post lolDennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:16 pmWell CRichard but I know your stance on them.
Chihiro is still getting a bit of an eyebrow from me and DaughterOfOmega until Creature can explain wtf is up with the townlock. And then if I believe it.
Any other names I don't have an active scumread on, or it's too slight to be off the top of my head
vote jack, come back tomorrow or something and i’ll have cleared you and the thread health will be better
sell me on falcon being potential maf b/c I feel like he's been bog standard falcon this game which is vastly more often town than not.
Hi my MU name is Art3mis... We've met.CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:14 pm Every town player should hang their heads in shame. Lucy the 3p is town siding way more than all of you put together.
So HK, if you really think I hoodwinked Lucy and put her in my pocket. Perhaps you might want to reconsider that with these games off site.
Lucy has consistently been able to read my alignment.
The scum game I was last in, she didn't rep me as town and was correct.
And if you really want to me kill me the vigi claim, who did what town vigis are supposed to do. Resolve the EoD1 CW or at least try to.
Go for it. I don't want to be part of a town who thinks bullying me is funny.
My last scum game. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Akumatized
Lucy was Beholder
My previous town game off site. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ental-Game
Lucy was Mason.
why are you a wolf b/c holy fuck you're a wolf.
Honestly I don't give a darn if we've met before or not.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:27 pmHi my MU name is Art3mis... We've met.CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:14 pm Every town player should hang their heads in shame. Lucy the 3p is town siding way more than all of you put together.
So HK, if you really think I hoodwinked Lucy and put her in my pocket. Perhaps you might want to reconsider that with these games off site.
Lucy has consistently been able to read my alignment.
The scum game I was last in, she didn't rep me as town and was correct.
And if you really want to me kill me the vigi claim, who did what town vigis are supposed to do. Resolve the EoD1 CW or at least try to.
Go for it. I don't want to be part of a town who thinks bullying me is funny.
My last scum game. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Akumatized
Lucy was Beholder
My previous town game off site. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ental-Game
Lucy was Mason.
wouldn’t you in my position? someone who wants to solve this game and who might have an incorrect read or two
Oh you're Art3mis?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:27 pmHi my MU name is Art3mis... We've met.CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:14 pm Every town player should hang their heads in shame. Lucy the 3p is town siding way more than all of you put together.
So HK, if you really think I hoodwinked Lucy and put her in my pocket. Perhaps you might want to reconsider that with these games off site.
Lucy has consistently been able to read my alignment.
The scum game I was last in, she didn't rep me as town and was correct.
And if you really want to me kill me the vigi claim, who did what town vigis are supposed to do. Resolve the EoD1 CW or at least try to.
Go for it. I don't want to be part of a town who thinks bullying me is funny.
My last scum game. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Akumatized
Lucy was Beholder
My previous town game off site. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ental-Game
Lucy was Mason.
nopeCRichard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:32 pmHonestly I don't give a darn if we've met before or not.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:27 pmHi my MU name is Art3mis... We've met.CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:14 pm Every town player should hang their heads in shame. Lucy the 3p is town siding way more than all of you put together.
So HK, if you really think I hoodwinked Lucy and put her in my pocket. Perhaps you might want to reconsider that with these games off site.
Lucy has consistently been able to read my alignment.
The scum game I was last in, she didn't rep me as town and was correct.
And if you really want to me kill me the vigi claim, who did what town vigis are supposed to do. Resolve the EoD1 CW or at least try to.
Go for it. I don't want to be part of a town who thinks bullying me is funny.
My last scum game. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Akumatized
Lucy was Beholder
My previous town game off site. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ental-Game
Lucy was Mason.
Just read the games I posted and see if your opinion on my slot changes.
Then again I don't expect you to, because I have no reason to believe you'll do so.
Prove me wrong.
what aforementioned POE?Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:32 pmwouldn’t you in my position? someone who wants to solve this game and who might have an incorrect read or two
what do you make of my aforementioned poe?
Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:20 pmread cr’s last post lolDennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:16 pmWell CRichard but I know your stance on them.
Chihiro is still getting a bit of an eyebrow from me and DaughterOfOmega until Creature can explain wtf is up with the townlock. And then if I believe it.
Any other names I don't have an active scumread on, or it's too slight to be off the top of my head
i think daughter isn’t clear but i’ll clear her anyways for how she’s acting around it imo, not a good d2
you don’t think cr is just confirmation biased town/you think if he faked his vig claim then he’d have auto outed himself for no reason in an easily disproven claim?
@CRichard vote jack not yourself thanks
Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:22 pmvote jack, come back tomorrow or something and i’ll have cleared you and the thread health will be better
i’m sorry you had to deal with neon, i hope she doesn’t take away from the rest of your game
she has tilted me greatly this game too
Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:26 pm i can’t read him to save my life, are u a falcon reader?
I disagree with Jack votes atm. I dislike how vociferous he was vs seanzie towards the end of day 1 but his explanation today for why he pushed there makes enough sense to me that I want to see what else he's going to say.
me too! I retired HK except for special events. lots of baggage there that doesn't translate much to Art even though it's functionally 100% outed by now lolDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:34 pmOh you're Art3mis?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:27 pmHi my MU name is Art3mis... We've met.CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:14 pm Every town player should hang their heads in shame. Lucy the 3p is town siding way more than all of you put together.
So HK, if you really think I hoodwinked Lucy and put her in my pocket. Perhaps you might want to reconsider that with these games off site.
Lucy has consistently been able to read my alignment.
The scum game I was last in, she didn't rep me as town and was correct.
And if you really want to me kill me the vigi claim, who did what town vigis are supposed to do. Resolve the EoD1 CW or at least try to.
Go for it. I don't want to be part of a town who thinks bullying me is funny.
My last scum game. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Akumatized
Lucy was Beholder
My previous town game off site. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ental-Game
Lucy was Mason.
I had fun with you when I was KwonNii
lucy is claimed 3p thoDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:35 pm I think Lucy is TMIing by not including me in mafia
what reason would they have for thinking im town LOL
I have no confidence in CR as a wolf. It’s a possibility. I pretty much was like “well shit lol” and closed the thread after the flip after sending in my night action if I have one.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 4:56 pmok cool deal thanks.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:00 amHe wasn't being his normal townie self. All his pushes were limp in addition to low activity. Apparently, the later was because he was on a work trip or something? Ildk what was up with the former.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:04 pm[VOTE: crichard] aubergine
explain
also @Scotty put me in a bucket I wanna ride
also also @Jackofhearts2005 explain the seanzie sus plx. I know I can re-read the thread but I don't wanna
I also misinterpreted a joke which I still don't understand. Seanzie was like "Jay said my win record is really good on discord so I'm excited to get another win." And like if the joke is "I think I am very good jk I'm not actually vain" then okay, har har I guess but otherwise, I'm not sure what the joke was. Anyway, I took this as him actually saying that he was at least excited to go hunt wolves....and then he did no real hunting. So I took that joke or whatever to be false bravado coming from a wolf.
I was not super sure Seanzie was mafia until his wagon took off near EOD. At that point, CR, who had called out Seanzie early but his push was pretty weak, said that multiple players were shielding Seanzie, effectively poopooing the Seanzie wagon. While I didn't totally catch up, I only found one post from one player pushing back on Seanzie pressure. Then the Seanzie wagon took off and the Jack wagon dissipated and CR was like "I am now certain Seanzie is mafia." So I interpreted this as a wolf (CR) distancing early from his partner (Seanzie) and then indirectly and dishonestly defending that partner by overstating the amount other players were shielding his partner (still Seanzie) to scare me and others away from that wagon before settling on a bus by saying that he was now sure his partner was mafia.
At the same time, Pyxxy, who seemed to initially townread me, was pushing hard on me for reasons I'm not aware of. Granted, I'm missing like 6 pages of content from the middle of D1 but from my perspective, as soon as my town wagon got smaller and as soon as this wolf wagon (Seanzie's) started taking off, Pyxxy started hard pushing me for entirely unstated reasons. I still don't know why Pyxxy decided I was mafia. You can go back and check this. He didn't say in the last 5 or so pages of D1.
So in summary, Seanzie was not playing in his normal town meta and two players were playing very weirdly around Seanzie fmpov. So he looked a lot like a wolf.
Also, I started tallying up a lot of independent townreads as the day drew to a close (Creature, Dunya, Sig, Kate, Lucy) and Kate was semivouching for Roxy and Dennis (I don't want to put words in her mouth but she was pushing back against pushes at them) so if I believe my townreads and I'm willing to trust Kate and give Roxy and Dennis a pass (not that I really suspected either of them but they were in that range of players I'd be okay with yeeting if we didn't have any better ideas ya know), then there weren't a lot of places for wolves to hide so my overall view of the game really fit well with a Seanzie/CR/Pyxxy wolfteam.
@Neon wanted a recap of this too, iirc.
Given seanzie and pyxxy flipped town do you still have confidence in Crich being a wolf or have you done some reevaluating of the game state and what's going on? Like your write up makes sense to me and seems like some fairly logical jack progression type stuff. Obvs I wasn't here to read it in real time but nothing you've said here seems super wrongodongo. Gonna call you town for right now though and see how I feel about that as we keep going.
I think that with the amount of times confirmation bias has been pointed out that argument would have stopped so long ago, and one side or the other would have just straight up stopped responding. Like Kate did, she just left and I townread that which left me with there is likely one is Cr/Neon and I townread Neon while I had a bit of a scumread on CR before anyways.Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:20 pmread cr’s last post lolDennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:16 pmWell CRichard but I know your stance on them.
Chihiro is still getting a bit of an eyebrow from me and DaughterOfOmega until Creature can explain wtf is up with the townlock. And then if I believe it.
Any other names I don't have an active scumread on, or it's too slight to be off the top of my head
i think daughter isn’t clear but i’ll clear her anyways for how she’s acting around it imo, not a good d2
you don’t think cr is just confirmation biased town/you think if he faked his vig claim then he’d have auto outed himself for no reason in an easily disproven claim?
@CRichard vote jack not yourself thanks
I'm having the same concerning feelings about wilgy.Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:05 pm Some names that haven't been in my mouth but I have thoughts on:
Falcon - just a falcon doing falcon things, though I feel like he has been less present than normal. I wanna see more of him to solidify a read but he's okay for now.
Wilgy - he hasn't been posting his big posts that intimidate me. He mentioned being low on WiM N0 and that's why I've stayed away from him until now but that tiny voice in the back of my head is getting louder.
Ageeed but I don’t think they’re both town
I like this POE.
I don’t believe if we vote off Lucy, scrappy would remain in the game.
Neon is town.Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:07 pmI think that with the amount of times confirmation bias has been pointed out that argument would have stopped so long ago, and one side or the other would have just straight up stopped responding. Like Kate did, she just left and I townread that which left me with there is likely one is Cr/Neon and I townread Neon while I had a bit of a scumread on CR before anyways.Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:20 pmread cr’s last post lolDennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:16 pmWell CRichard but I know your stance on them.
Chihiro is still getting a bit of an eyebrow from me and DaughterOfOmega until Creature can explain wtf is up with the townlock. And then if I believe it.
Any other names I don't have an active scumread on, or it's too slight to be off the top of my head
i think daughter isn’t clear but i’ll clear her anyways for how she’s acting around it imo, not a good d2
you don’t think cr is just confirmation biased town/you think if he faked his vig claim then he’d have auto outed himself for no reason in an easily disproven claim?
@CRichard vote jack not yourself thanks
How would fakd claiming the vig shot out him? I guess more importantly how can we prove that there was/wasn't a shot? I honestly don't want to vote him all that much, I'm more confident on other people and likely won't land on CR but nonetheless he is in poe.
1. Lucy reads aren’t 100% locked so I’m not going to trust fall into her read.CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:14 pm Every town player should hang their heads in shame. Lucy the 3p is town siding way more than all of you put together.
So HK, if you really think I hoodwinked Lucy and put her in my pocket. Perhaps you might want to reconsider that with these games off site.
Lucy has consistently been able to read my alignment.
The scum game I was last in, she didn't rep me as town and was correct.
And if you really want to me kill me the vigi claim, who did what town vigis are supposed to do. Resolve the EoD1 CW or at least try to.
Go for it. I don't want to be part of a town who thinks bullying me is funny.
My last scum game. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Akumatized
Lucy was Beholder
My previous town game off site. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ental-Game
Lucy was Mason.
@Kate I don’t think Dennis knows how to read
Not that you asked but...rox seemed very civ once she came in and the fight ensued. I was meh on her before that with the long itemized posts. So rondo is starting off good with me.sig wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:40 pm @RondoDimBuckle i know you just subbed in, so I’ll give you a day but I am scum leaning on the slot.
I’m hoping for a few things when you’re caught up
3 town reads
2 mafia read
Thoughts on
Lucy/scrappy
Neon/CR/Kates fight
Thoughts on the Jack vs Sean wagon we saw last phase
Why do you think Pyxxy was killed (I’m still doing an NKA here but jd like a secondary set of eyes)
This doesn't make sense. I'm clearly a beacon of towny behavior.Kate wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:20 pmI'm having the same concerning feelings about wilgy.Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:05 pm Some names that haven't been in my mouth but I have thoughts on:
Falcon - just a falcon doing falcon things, though I feel like he has been less present than normal. I wanna see more of him to solidify a read but he's okay for now.
Wilgy - he hasn't been posting his big posts that intimidate me. He mentioned being low on WiM N0 and that's why I've stayed away from him until now but that tiny voice in the back of my head is getting louder.
Kate wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:51 pmNot that you asked but...rox seemed very civ once she came in and the fight ensued. I was meh on her before that with the long itemized posts. So rondo is starting off good with me.sig wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:40 pm @RondoDimBuckle i know you just subbed in, so I’ll give you a day but I am scum leaning on the slot.
I’m hoping for a few things when you’re caught up
3 town reads
2 mafia read
Thoughts on
Lucy/scrappy
Neon/CR/Kates fight
Thoughts on the Jack vs Sean wagon we saw last phase
Why do you think Pyxxy was killed (I’m still doing an NKA here but jd like a secondary set of eyes)
I hardly expected you to trust Lucy, as she claimed 3p.sig wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:33 pm1. Lucy reads aren’t 100% locked so I’m not going to trust fall into her read.CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:14 pm Every town player should hang their heads in shame. Lucy the 3p is town siding way more than all of you put together.
So HK, if you really think I hoodwinked Lucy and put her in my pocket. Perhaps you might want to reconsider that with these games off site.
Lucy has consistently been able to read my alignment.
The scum game I was last in, she didn't rep me as town and was correct.
And if you really want to me kill me the vigi claim, who did what town vigis are supposed to do. Resolve the EoD1 CW or at least try to.
Go for it. I don't want to be part of a town who thinks bullying me is funny.
My last scum game. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Akumatized
Lucy was Beholder
My previous town game off site. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ental-Game
Lucy was Mason.
2. You’ve claimed Vig, but Neon very clearly stated why you weren’t in her mind. Also the kill didn’t go through.
You aren’t being bullied, just because people aren’t trusting you doesn’t mean they’re bullying you.
And how much is is theatrics are you really done or just saying that
You certainly know how to make things interesting. I'll give you that.
Self voting is a bit theatrical thoughCRichard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:55 pmI hardly expected you to trust Lucy, as she claimed 3p.sig wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:33 pm1. Lucy reads aren’t 100% locked so I’m not going to trust fall into her read.CRichard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:14 pm Every town player should hang their heads in shame. Lucy the 3p is town siding way more than all of you put together.
So HK, if you really think I hoodwinked Lucy and put her in my pocket. Perhaps you might want to reconsider that with these games off site.
Lucy has consistently been able to read my alignment.
The scum game I was last in, she didn't rep me as town and was correct.
And if you really want to me kill me the vigi claim, who did what town vigis are supposed to do. Resolve the EoD1 CW or at least try to.
Go for it. I don't want to be part of a town who thinks bullying me is funny.
My last scum game. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... Akumatized
Lucy was Beholder
My previous town game off site. https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ental-Game
Lucy was Mason.
2. You’ve claimed Vig, but Neon very clearly stated why you weren’t in her mind. Also the kill didn’t go through.
You aren’t being bullied, just because people aren’t trusting you doesn’t mean they’re bullying you.
And how much is is theatrics are you really done or just saying that
As for why my kill didn't go through, it could be for a number of reasons rather than just thinking I'm lying about being a vig.
You say I'm not being bullied, and then accuse me of theatrics in the same post. Sounds like you condone the bullying too and just gaslit me.
You certainly know how to make things interesting. I'll give you that.
