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Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:25 pm
by Flyin' High
Also, I have not hinted at my role in any way this game.

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:26 pm
by LittleTiger
reywaS wrote:
LittleTiger wrote:
reywaS wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Seeings as my "Case" on you stems from your reaction to the material I presented and not the material itself. You keep calling it useless, invalid etc. The Civvie LT I know would not have gone so far over the top in her initial response to voting analysis. You also seem to think that by using loaded language (such as "you're better than this", this is usless, invalid, etc etc) I'll back off. I wont. You're bad. And Thats that.
This actually makes a lot of sense to me. All the talk surrounding how useless and incorrect and flawed DH's vote stats were pinged me big time. It felt like DH hit a nerve and a few people were rushing to completely discredit what he was saying. Since when is any kind of vote analysis useless???
BECAUSE it has no merit this early in the game; BECAUSE people are on at the same time due to schedules etc; BECAUSE it was just useless. I could say that because you are replying to DH and I think he is bad, then you must be bad. You posted after DH, you must be bad.

Geez.
It was not "useless". It was a simple record of people that voted for both Droopy and Vomp with some added stuff about vote timing. DH did not in any way come to the conclusion that any one person in his vote post "must be bad". It certainly wasn't "useless" in that it got some great discussion going. I think he may have hit something with all the "oh my god, that date is stupid and useless and makes no sense" stuff TBH. A few people went a little overboard in trying to debunk DH's conclusions when he didn't even make any conclusions! I think he's on to something with the responses. :ponder:
So then why did he slip in the "I am going to vote LT"?

Again, I was not the first to comment that his analyses served no purpose at this point in the game. Later, maybe it will help. So, I comment.... and BOOM! DH says THAT is his case... the fact that I commented. Something that others have also done.

Now, here you are joining him. I am sorry, but you cannot tell me that his analyses has any bearing on shit right at this point.

Maybe there is something to the fact that YOU are jumping on DH's bogus case. I mean, how convenient, right? Easy vote. DH has even said that he is trying to stop "sheeple votes" - so clearly he is just stirring the pot. Yet you jump on it.

Except that all it has done is distract from actual discussion of the actual possible baddies. But, maybe that is the plan.

My eye is still on FH, tbh. Although, I am not ready to vote her atm. Her explanations about the books rang true to me.

Instead, I am now very interested in reywaS. I think he has played this game long enough that him jumping on DH's "case" makes me very suspicious of him.

*vote reywaS*

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:26 pm
by triceratopzeuhl
Flyin' High wrote:Also, I have not hinted at my role in any way this game.
It wasn't something that would have been on purpose

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:27 pm
by triceratopzeuhl
Or are you trying to argue with me when I say I think you're civ? That's just silly

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:32 pm
by DharmaHelper
LittleTiger wrote:
reywaS wrote:
LittleTiger wrote:
reywaS wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Seeings as my "Case" on you stems from your reaction to the material I presented and not the material itself. You keep calling it useless, invalid etc. The Civvie LT I know would not have gone so far over the top in her initial response to voting analysis. You also seem to think that by using loaded language (such as "you're better than this", this is usless, invalid, etc etc) I'll back off. I wont. You're bad. And Thats that.
This actually makes a lot of sense to me. All the talk surrounding how useless and incorrect and flawed DH's vote stats were pinged me big time. It felt like DH hit a nerve and a few people were rushing to completely discredit what he was saying. Since when is any kind of vote analysis useless???
BECAUSE it has no merit this early in the game; BECAUSE people are on at the same time due to schedules etc; BECAUSE it was just useless. I could say that because you are replying to DH and I think he is bad, then you must be bad. You posted after DH, you must be bad.

Geez.
It was not "useless". It was a simple record of people that voted for both Droopy and Vomp with some added stuff about vote timing. DH did not in any way come to the conclusion that any one person in his vote post "must be bad". It certainly wasn't "useless" in that it got some great discussion going. I think he may have hit something with all the "oh my god, that date is stupid and useless and makes no sense" stuff TBH. A few people went a little overboard in trying to debunk DH's conclusions when he didn't even make any conclusions! I think he's on to something with the responses. :ponder:
So then why did he slip in the "I am going to vote LT"?

Again, I was not the first to comment that his analyses served no purpose at this point in the game. Later, maybe it will help. So, I comment.... and BOOM! DH says THAT is his case... the fact that I commented. Something that others have also done.

Now, here you are joining him. I am sorry, but you cannot tell me that his analyses has any bearing on shit right at this point.

Maybe there is something to the fact that YOU are jumping on DH's bogus case. I mean, how convenient, right? Easy vote. DH has even said that he is trying to stop "sheeple votes" - so clearly he is just stirring the pot. Yet you jump on it.

Except that all it has done is distract from actual discussion of the actual possible baddies. But, maybe that is the plan.

My eye is still on FH, tbh. Although, I am not ready to vote her atm. Her explanations about the books rang true to me.

Instead, I am now very interested in reywaS. I think he has played this game long enough that him jumping on DH's "case" makes me very suspicious of him.

*vote reywaS*

I think you're talking yourself in a bit of a circle here. It's been fairly established that my vote for you was to do with your REACTION to the vote analysis. I didn't say you were the first to comment on it, just that your particular reaction pinged me the most. And I'm not distracting from any actual discussion.

But overall this post is a much better improvement in terms of baddie defending. I'm glad your step away from the thread lead to a more clearheaded set of lies and doubletalk and etc. Makes things easier.

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:33 pm
by juliets
Ok, before this gets any more confusing for me I'm going to vote. It seems that SVS is vouching for Trice and Trice is vouching for FH, plus I don't have a strong suspicion of FH. Right now I'm seeing civ SVS and that's reinforced by what Kate is saying (I dont trust my read on SVS alone because i find her hard to read). On LT, I need to think about that some more. I've seen much much worse reactions from her when she's bad - her reaction here just made kind of a blip on my screen. I'm not convinced on INH. So where I land is where I really didn't want to land - back on CBK based on her voting position for rabbit. It breaks my heart to vote for Timmer on his first day but I'm not supposed to have a heart in mafia so that is where my vote is going tonight.
*votes Timmer*


tons of linki

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:34 pm
by insertnamehere
I see the FH suspicion, but I definitely think that DH is stronger.

*votes DH*

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:35 pm
by DharmaHelper
Well this day has been the most interesting thusfar.

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:36 pm
by Kate
Wow. Should not have had a drink when I got home.

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:42 pm
by BoatsBoatsBoats
DharmaHelper wrote:
BoatsBoatsBoats wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:I'm not planning anything Boats. I just feel very strongly that LT tangled herself up in her reaction to my voting analysis and her reactions since. :bounce:
I'm more concerned about your analysis posts.

What about it?
It's got an agenda.

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:42 pm
by DharmaHelper
BoatsBoatsBoats wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
BoatsBoatsBoats wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:I'm not planning anything Boats. I just feel very strongly that LT tangled herself up in her reaction to my voting analysis and her reactions since. :bounce:
I'm more concerned about your analysis posts.

What about it?
It's got an agenda.

I disagree. Want to elaborate?

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:43 pm
by Kate
Ok I'm sticking with susoicions that CBK was trying to save bea for today. I'm not sure enough about any of the other suspects.

Vote timmer

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:51 pm
by birdwithteeth11
God, there's been so much discussion today that it's been hard to wrap my head around it all. I was leaning toward FH for the longest time, but I'm willing to let that one slide for now, because her book explanation seems genuine to me (for the most part). Right now I'm leaning toward either CBK/Timmer or DH. DH is starting to lose me and I feel like he's all over the map with his suspicions. And from re-reading CBK, I think there's a really good possibility that she was trying to save bea, and Timmer hasn't done much to clear that up for me yet.

I feel fairly comfortable voting for either one really, but the question is which one?...

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:53 pm
by S~V~S
I am not sure i believe it though, Trice~

I can wait to vote. I do think FH is bad, but i also think DH may be onto something.
insertnamehere wrote:I see the FH suspicion, but I definitely think that DH is stronger.

*votes DH*
How "No U" of you :ponder:

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:54 pm
by reywaS
What an incredible No U there, LT. At least you didn't try to be subtle about it. LMAO. I think it's kinda funny that you are going to such great lengths to try to make us believe that DH's posts served no purpose and don't mean anything and then you "No U" vote for me.

I guess that helps me realize that a vote for you is definitely warranted.

Vote: LittleTiger

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:59 pm
by birdwithteeth11
Oh yeah. I also forgot about The Truth and Boats. The Truth definitely seems like he could be one of Trice's teammates and Boats really seems like he's just going along with the flow, which almost always bothers me.

So basically, I have about 25 minutes to decide which of those 4 I'm voting for.........fuck.

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:08 pm
by triceratopzeuhl
I don't entirely understand why BWT doesn't list me as suspicious, but lists The Truth as suspicious because he thinks we could be teammates. Huh?

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:11 pm
by triceratopzeuhl
S~V~S wrote:I am not sure i believe it though, Trice~

I can wait to vote. I do think FH is bad, but i also think DH may be onto something.
insertnamehere wrote:I see the FH suspicion, but I definitely think that DH is stronger.

*votes DH*
How "No U" of you :ponder:
Could be. Maybe it was an on purpose thing, which I guess she would deny since that would not reflect well on her; but as an accidental slip it wouldn't have any baddie connotations. Hrum

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:12 pm
by S~V~S
Apparently Flyin High talked her way out of it. When her case of Trice fell flat, she turned to CBK.

Sorry DH, but neither of our candidates are being lynched. CBK/Tim could be bad, there were times I tilted my head at CBK. I was hoping to give Timmer a chance to play the game and prove himself civ, but i guess that isn't happening.

I still think she was a distraction, though.

linki @ Trice, yeah. i caught that too (about BWT), plus he is considering a vote for someone for being blendy when there is so much suspicion?

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:13 pm
by The Truth
DharmaHelper wrote:I'm not planning anything Boats. I just feel very strongly that LT tangled herself up in her reaction to my voting analysis and her reactions since. :bounce:
You're being rather condescending, that sometimes makes me think people are baddies. :|

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:14 pm
by Mr. Droopy Cash
Trice made the 2000th post in this thread...what a baddie move. I wish I realized the poll when late tonight and I could've voted Trice... :haha:
This logic is just as good as anyone elses!

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:15 pm
by The Truth
Unless something goes horribly eschew sometime soon, I'm voting Dharma.

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:15 pm
by triceratopzeuhl
Mr. Droopy Cash wrote:Trice made the 2000th post in this thread...what a baddie move. I wish I realized the poll when late tonight and I could've voted Trice... :haha:
This logic is just as good as anyone elses!
There is a lot of good quality content going around today, don't disregard all of it because of some graphs

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:19 pm
by S~V~S
The Truth wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:I'm not planning anything Boats. I just feel very strongly that LT tangled herself up in her reaction to my voting analysis and her reactions since. :bounce:
You're being rather condescending, that sometimes makes me think people are baddies. :|
Actually, it is my experience that DH tends to be more condescending when he is a civ. Hes a little friendlier when hes bad, trying to trick people and all.

i was gonna vote FH, but am waiting to see if there is a last minute push for DH

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:21 pm
by DharmaHelper
S~V~S wrote:
The Truth wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:I'm not planning anything Boats. I just feel very strongly that LT tangled herself up in her reaction to my voting analysis and her reactions since. :bounce:
You're being rather condescending, that sometimes makes me think people are baddies. :|
Actually, it is my experience that DH tends to be more condescending when he is a civ. Hes a little friendlier when hes bad, trying to trick people and all.

i was gonna vote FH, but am waiting to see if there is a last minute push for DH

Spoiler warning: There probably will be :guitar:

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:23 pm
by The Truth
S~V~S wrote:
The Truth wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:I'm not planning anything Boats. I just feel very strongly that LT tangled herself up in her reaction to my voting analysis and her reactions since. :bounce:
You're being rather condescending, that sometimes makes me think people are baddies. :|
Actually, it is my experience that DH tends to be more condescending when he is a civ. Hes a little friendlier when hes bad, trying to trick people and all.

i was gonna vote FH, but am waiting to see if there is a last minute push for DH
Consider me part of that push... Maybe he's using reverse psychology? Regardless, it seems suspicious to me.

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:23 pm
by triceratopzeuhl
DP just voted for LT without posting, silenced maybe?

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:23 pm
by triceratopzeuhl
inb4 Dharma says something about bandwagons

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:24 pm
by Epignosis
Sorry DH- I'm honestly bewildered at this point. But I'm going with you.

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:24 pm
by S~V~S
Sorry Timmer, i didn't want to vote for you, but i also did not want to let DH be lynched.

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:27 pm
by DharmaHelper
If I go, I accomplished what I wanted to accomplish. Maybe 1 or 2 baddies gets flushed out and you guys have a nice list for future lynches :coffee3:

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:27 pm
by triceratopzeuhl
poll is closed now

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:28 pm
by S~V~S
The Truth wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
The Truth wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:I'm not planning anything Boats. I just feel very strongly that LT tangled herself up in her reaction to my voting analysis and her reactions since. :bounce:
You're being rather condescending, that sometimes makes me think people are baddies. :|
Actually, it is my experience that DH tends to be more condescending when he is a civ. Hes a little friendlier when hes bad, trying to trick people and all.

i was gonna vote FH, but am waiting to see if there is a last minute push for DH
Consider me part of that push... Maybe he's using reverse psychology? Regardless, it seems suspicious to me.
yeah your post was what made me fear the wagon of bands~ and i see you didn't vote after all :(

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:28 pm
by Tangrowth
Host post coming ASAP.

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:32 pm
by birdwithteeth11
You have to be kidding me. I went to click 'submit' to vote, and the polling closed at that exact moment. :WTF:

It doesn't mean much, but I would have gone with CBK/Timmer probably. I didn't feel quite as comfortable with Troofie and Boats as I did with him and FH. But I'm more willing to give FH the benefit of the doubt for now.

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:42 pm
by Kate
birdwithteeth11 wrote:You have to be kidding me. I went to click 'submit' to vote, and the polling closed at that exact moment. :WTF:

It doesn't mean much, but I would have gone with CBK/Timmer probably. I didn't feel quite as comfortable with Troofie and Boats as I did with him and FH. But I'm more willing to give FH the benefit of the doubt for now.
Who were u hitting submit to vote for?

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:44 pm
by DharmaHelper
Did anyone who voted for me apart from INH give a reason, btw?

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:45 pm
by S~V~S
birdwithteeth11 wrote:You have to be kidding me. I went to click 'submit' to vote, and the polling closed at that exact moment. :WTF:

It doesn't mean much, but I would have gone with CBK/Timmer probably. I didn't feel quite as comfortable with Troofie and Boats as I did with him and FH. But I'm more willing to give FH the benefit of the doubt for now.
Probably? But you were hitting "Submit" to vote.

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:48 pm
by Epignosis
DharmaHelper wrote:Did anyone who voted for me apart from INH give a reason, btw?
I voted for you. I did not give a reason.

Would you like one?

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:49 pm
by DharmaHelper
Epignosis wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Did anyone who voted for me apart from INH give a reason, btw?
I voted for you. I did not give a reason.

Would you like one?
It wouldn't hurt.

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:49 pm
by S~V~S
Epignosis wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Did anyone who voted for me apart from INH give a reason, btw?
I voted for you. I did not give a reason.

Would you like one?
Are you channeling Vomp? Was it a personal reason?

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:50 pm
by Tangrowth
Day 5: Stay Away From Me



After another surprising civvie lynching the day previous, today was a day filled with discussion, perhaps the most thus far. The infiltrators absolutely must be eliminated, they remembered.

Today it was between DharmaHelper and LittleTiger. "As it seems we cannot choose, let it fall in the hands of fate!" spoke the supposed Captain Spectacular. It flipped a coin. It was decided. reywaS was sick of the mutilations, so he grabbed a chair and slammed LittleTiger with it repeatedly. "STAY AWAY FROM ME!" She yelled. "I AM NOT BAD!" Sobbing for her life, LittleTiger's blood spilled onto the floor. Only it wasn't red.

"...LT's blood is grey?" timmer inquired.


LittleTiger has been lynched. She was Grey 1.

You have 24 hours to send in your night PMs.

Re: [NIGHT 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:50 pm
by Tangrowth
Night 5: Event

"Listen, players!" The host punched through the ship once more.

"I am giving you ONE and only ONE opportunity now to give one of your fallen brethren another chance. However, the player could not have died via lynching! Choose wisely!"


Choose the player to be resurrected! You have 24 hours. Only the living may vote.

Re: [NIGHT 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:52 pm
by DisgruntledPorcupine
Good result. :)

Re: [DAY 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:52 pm
by Epignosis
DharmaHelper wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Did anyone who voted for me apart from INH give a reason, btw?
I voted for you. I did not give a reason.

Would you like one?
It wouldn't hurt.
You're weird. And I needed to vote in a hurry.

Re: [NIGHT 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:53 pm
by DharmaHelper
Must...exercise...restraint...

Re: [NIGHT 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:54 pm
by DisgruntledPorcupine
So yeah @JC: No I do not know how I survived my kill.

As for why I voted LT, I did not like her reaction to DH's posts. Her huge NO U kinda sealed it for me.

Re: [NIGHT 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:54 pm
by Kate
Well that's awesome!

Re: [NIGHT 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:54 pm
by S~V~S
YES~!!!!

Bye LT, BIH Grey 1 :)

And i would feel best about Faraday or Devin coming back. They went on Night One which doesn't make them more likely to be civ, but i did not have a good feeling about a few of the others.

Re: [NIGHT 5] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:56 pm
by DharmaHelper
So, I hate to ask for this but does anyone have a vote order?