The Syndicate

Silverwolf wrote:

Golden wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:I'm gonna finish this game out cuz I know the hosts are having difficulty finding replacements and I do indeed appreciate the warm welcome I got, but this will likely be my last game here. I understand suspecting people for legitimate reasons but suspecting myself or ika because we play different or are defending each other from playstyle type lynches is not all that enticing for me to want to continue here.

Do you think it is not a fair point, to point out that all 5 of the voters of ika are also new here?

I think it is rough, to call it a knock on the Syndicate. Especially since I'm pretty sure ika is ultimately not going to get lynched for it. He seems to have quite a few defenders.

Fair enough, I don't mean to knock the Syndicate overall and I'm not trying to say that ika or myself should not be suspected or questioned or voted for legitimate reasons. I do feel like the reason people are suspecting us-and particularly ika, is because of a different playstyle, and like I said, this is very discouraging.

And let me just say this now. I'd never, ever use something like this to manipulate as scum. I do have strong feeling against emotionally manipulating people as scum, since I had a friend do it to me a long time ago. It's just not something I believe in. Me getting emotionally is definitely not an alignment tell either way.

Golden wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Golden wrote: if nothing else I'm a bloody loud and obnoxious voice.

Never were truer words spoken. :P

Takes one to know one

Damn straight.

ika wrote:the seconde one was at luffy.

trust me, there doesn go a moment where we have at least some parnaoia about each other. if we live for too long it does kinda make it odd. but this is also common for sucms to discredit our town reading.

like i have had a game where i was a cop and i was light town reading her but didnt trust her and was going to check her n1, she know nothing about it. so we may start wrong but in the end we always get it right

Silverwolf wrote:So yeah, this kind of pings a bit to me.

indiglo wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

Golden wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:I'm gonna finish this game out cuz I know the hosts are having difficulty finding replacements and I do indeed appreciate the warm welcome I got, but this will likely be my last game here. I understand suspecting people for legitimate reasons but suspecting myself or ika because we play different or are defending each other from playstyle type lynches is not all that enticing for me to want to continue here.

Do you think it is not a fair point, to point out that all 5 of the voters of ika are also new here?

I think it is rough, to call it a knock on the Syndicate. Especially since I'm pretty sure ika is ultimately not going to get lynched for it. He seems to have quite a few defenders.

Fair enough, I don't mean to knock the Syndicate overall and I'm not trying to say that ika or myself should not be suspected or questioned or voted for legitimate reasons. I do feel like the reason people are suspecting us-and particularly ika, is because of a different playstyle, and like I said, this is very discouraging.

And let me just say this now. I'd never, ever use something like this to manipulate as scum. I do have strong feeling against emotionally manipulating people as scum, since I had a friend do it to me a long time ago. It's just not something I believe in. Me getting emotionally is definitely not an alignment tell either way.

I like this. And I like the cut of your jib in general. I would feel exactly the same way you do in your position, and I respect both of you very much for simply walking away when you started to feel frustrated. That type of play style is very good to have around.

indiglo wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

Golden wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:I'm gonna finish this game out cuz I know the hosts are having difficulty finding replacements and I do indeed appreciate the warm welcome I got, but this will likely be my last game here. I understand suspecting people for legitimate reasons but suspecting myself or ika because we play different or are defending each other from playstyle type lynches is not all that enticing for me to want to continue here.

Do you think it is not a fair point, to point out that all 5 of the voters of ika are also new here?

I think it is rough, to call it a knock on the Syndicate. Especially since I'm pretty sure ika is ultimately not going to get lynched for it. He seems to have quite a few defenders.

Fair enough, I don't mean to knock the Syndicate overall and I'm not trying to say that ika or myself should not be suspected or questioned or voted for legitimate reasons. I do feel like the reason people are suspecting us-and particularly ika, is because of a different playstyle, and like I said, this is very discouraging.

And let me just say this now. I'd never, ever use something like this to manipulate as scum. I do have strong feeling against emotionally manipulating people as scum, since I had a friend do it to me a long time ago. It's just not something I believe in. Me getting emotionally is definitely not an alignment tell either way.

I like this. And I like the cut of your jib in general. I would feel exactly the same way you do in your position, and I respect both of you very much for simply walking away when you started to feel frustrated. That type of play style is very good to have around.

Golden wrote:Sorry for calling ika a she

Silverwolf wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey all, I just want to remind you that we have a Mod on Duty function, and that it doesn't get utilized often enough. I know a decent number of you are new or relatively new to this site, so I'd like to emphasize this it is a unique function here designed specifically so that you can resolve personal conflicts and vent frustrations:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

RULES & PROCEDURES

10. The Mod on Duty for this game is nijuukyugou. She is there for any of your questions or concerns not strictly related to game or role mechanics. Please PM her with any grievances or concerns you may have at any time, notably including conflicts with other players. Keep the thread fun and clean of emotionally-charged drama or conflicts; PM nijuukyugou instead. We want to keep this game as fun as possible for everyone.

If you have questions regarding any of this, also feel free to PM me or Daisy too and we'd be more than happy to assist. We know mafia is inevitably tense, but we want to keep everyone enjoying this game. If you feel frustrated with someone, multiple people, or just the general mood of the thread, then we want to help resolve it, and keep it from adversely affecting the game. So spam nijuu's inbox for all we care. That's what she's there for!

Thanks!

Where I come from, all this stuff gets thrown in the thread, along with a lot of swearing, fighting, etc. While it sounds harsh, it does help with reading other players.

S~V~S wrote:Silverwolf, I have no problems with it, and if that is really the only reason ika is taking votes, I won;t be voting for him. Almost every time I have tried to play somewhere else (including Mafiascum ) I got lynched Day One for playstyle. Come back and talk to me on Day 3 or 4, and by then playstyle won't be an issue.

I have spent all my Mafia time in the other thread or site stuff, so I have an hour to catch up and move my vote.

My vote for Gleam is based on a day one ping, so can anyone tell me why he has the other votes? And @Sloonei, can'twait to see why you think I am bad after Rocky & Bullwinkel.

Turnip Head wrote:I want to lead a CFD counterwagon because I don't like any of these 3, but I have no idea where to go. My vote is accomplishing nothing but I don't know where else to put it. I really hope Epi doesn't get lynched, I haven't played with him in forever and I'm liking his new approach this game.

Turnip Head wrote:I want to lead a CFD counterwagon because I don't like any of these 3, but I have no idea where to go. My vote is accomplishing nothing but I don't know where else to put it. I really hope Epi doesn't get lynched, I haven't played with him in forever and I'm liking his new approach this game.

Golden wrote:Voted for gleam.

I think I'd prefer to vote elsewhere, but I'm voting in defence of ika.

Golden wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:I want to lead a CFD counterwagon because I don't like any of these 3, but I have no idea where to go. My vote is accomplishing nothing but I don't know where else to put it. I really hope Epi doesn't get lynched, I haven't played with him in forever and I'm liking his new approach this game.

I'd love to, too, but we would need to get enough people on board, and preferably including some of the current voters on the existing 3 wagons.

RadicalFuzz wrote:Breaking the tie, voting for ika.

ika

Quin wrote:I think you'd all be interested to hear that I've just stick my fingers into a running ceiling fan trying to put on a shirt. It hurts.

How is that even possibly?

Sloonei wrote:

Golden wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:I want to lead a CFD counterwagon because I don't like any of these 3, but I have no idea where to go. My vote is accomplishing nothing but I don't know where else to put it. I really hope Epi doesn't get lynched, I haven't played with him in forever and I'm liking his new approach this game.

I'd love to, too, but we would need to get enough people on board, and preferably including some of the current voters on the existing 3 wagons.

My mind is open.

ika wrote:I agree, when i flip town it should be looked into

sig wrote:

Quin wrote:I think you'd all be interested to hear that I've just stick my fingers into a running ceiling fan trying to put on a shirt. It hurts.

How is that even possibly?

Quin wrote:Oh, so do we have another hour until day ends? I thought it ended now.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I don't like the idea of starting another wagon, when we already have 3, with less than an hour for the phase to end.

This is the PERFECT opportunity for scum to save each other if they need to.

If you don't like the current wagons then tough luck. Try to push another one earlier next day.

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote:I agree, when i flip town it should be looked into

I do not agree. At this point it only makes sense to vote for one of the three of you, so any vote can be said to be "opportunistic".

Silverwolf wrote:

RadicalFuzz wrote:Breaking the tie, voting for ika.

ika

This is a very opportunistic vote and probably scum.

RadicalFuzz wrote:Matt is either playing from a high tightrope or is town. The risk/reward for his actions feels like high/medium if he's scum.
Sloonei is my strongest townread, as his posts have consistently made logical sense and he's avoided tunnelling on one player or interaction. It feels like he's trying to solve the game, and that's good.
You look town-y to me, for similar reasons to Sloonei. The difference is your tone reads as a little early to reach a conclusion, like you're content with finding enough facts to reach a conclusion at all, not necessarily the correct one.

Spirityo still has said next to nothing and we're a few hours out from Day 2 ending. His four posts consist of the following. A "linki - that's a good idea", one "I agree with Sloonei about the cultural differences between RYM & Syndicate", a greeting to everyone, and an apology for missing the vote. Absolutely zero content whatsoever.
Enrique I don't like because of his refusal to explain his vote on Day 1. That entire situation read as if he was nervous, if that makes sense, like he didn't have a reason at the time of his vote but decided he needed one.

I refuse to touch the Silverwolf/ika thing with a 39 & 1/2 foot pole. There's some logic to be found in interactions regarding them, but so much emotion that I'd probably end up stepping on someone's toes and they'd get mad at me for their decision to wear sandals.

My vote's going to be used to prevent a tie today. I'm indifferent as to where specifically it goes.

Turnip the reason you should vote for me is so you stop twiddling your thumbs about who to vote for.

Llama can you elaborate on your conclusion that Luffy's posts scream "cop?"

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I don't like the idea of starting another wagon, when we already have 3, with less than an hour for the phase to end.

This is the PERFECT opportunity for scum to save each other if they need to.

If you don't like the current wagons then tough luck. Try to push another one earlier next day.

Golden wrote:Let me throw out two names for this counterwagon and see if Sloon, SVS, TH, indi, silver and ika could all be behind either.

Matt
Wilgy

I'm open to other names.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I don't like the idea of starting another wagon, when we already have 3, with less than an hour for the phase to end.

This is the PERFECT opportunity for scum to save each other if they need to.

If you don't like the current wagons then tough luck. Try to push another one earlier next day.

Silverwolf wrote:

Golden wrote:Let me throw out two names for this counterwagon and see if Sloon, SVS, TH, indi, silver and ika could all be behind either.

Matt
Wilgy

I'm open to other names.

I don't like this. I never like the idea of a last minute flash wagon at the end of the day.

Your latest posts are not really sitting well with me.

Radical Fuzz, Golden need to be looked into more tomorrow IMO.

Sloonei wrote:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I don't like the idea of starting another wagon, when we already have 3, with less than an hour for the phase to end.

This is the PERFECT opportunity for scum to save each other if they need to.

If you don't like the current wagons then tough luck. Try to push another one earlier next day.

I don't feel great about any of the options (I feel decent about Epi, okay about ika, a little resistant about Gleam) and a number of my strongest town reads have now stated a similar sentiment.

I can read this as a cop who is nervous that the changing tide will sweep away one of his partners.

S~V~S wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

RadicalFuzz wrote:Breaking the tie, voting for ika.

ika

This is a very opportunistic vote and probably scum.

I kind of agree. This is his last postmentioning ika:

RadicalFuzz wrote:Matt is either playing from a high tightrope or is town. The risk/reward for his actions feels like high/medium if he's scum.
Sloonei is my strongest townread, as his posts have consistently made logical sense and he's avoided tunnelling on one player or interaction. It feels like he's trying to solve the game, and that's good.
You look town-y to me, for similar reasons to Sloonei. The difference is your tone reads as a little early to reach a conclusion, like you're content with finding enough facts to reach a conclusion at all, not necessarily the correct one.

Spirityo still has said next to nothing and we're a few hours out from Day 2 ending. His four posts consist of the following. A "linki - that's a good idea", one "I agree with Sloonei about the cultural differences between RYM & Syndicate", a greeting to everyone, and an apology for missing the vote. Absolutely zero content whatsoever.
Enrique I don't like because of his refusal to explain his vote on Day 1. That entire situation read as if he was nervous, if that makes sense, like he didn't have a reason at the time of his vote but decided he needed one.

I refuse to touch the Silverwolf/ika thing with a 39 & 1/2 foot pole. There's some logic to be found in interactions regarding them, but so much emotion that I'd probably end up stepping on someone's toes and they'd get mad at me for their decision to wear sandals.

My vote's going to be used to prevent a tie today. I'm indifferent as to where specifically it goes.

Turnip the reason you should vote for me is so you stop twiddling your thumbs about who to vote for.

Llama can you elaborate on your conclusion that Luffy's posts scream "cop?"

Golden wrote:Serge and Fuzz votes both opportunistic, I'd be open to either of them too.

Quin wrote:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I don't like the idea of starting another wagon, when we already have 3, with less than an hour for the phase to end.

This is the PERFECT opportunity for scum to save each other if they need to.

If you don't like the current wagons then tough luck. Try to push another one earlier next day.

pingpong. I don't like this at all. We shouldn't be forced to lynch our civ-reads because there isn't an existing bandwagon for them.