Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Ooh, how super! I ain't afeared. I'm more suspicious of Made, for reasons I've stated. Also, I didn't really get the Juliets argument, probably because I'm not as familiar playing with her. Might as well make it count!S~V~S wrote:So ninjajujube, you have a chance to break a tie
Linki~ edit by way of post
Hmm, I agree it's intresting. However, I don't feel qualified to speak on hedgie's actions or train of thought.Canucklehead wrote: I don't expect anyone to follow me, but I do encourage you to take a close look at Mongoose's posts, which just read a litte goofy in tone to me...
I'm assuming you mean "Mongoose" not "Hedgie", right?Made wrote:Hmm, I agree it's intresting. However, I don't feel qualified to speak on hedgie's actions or train of thought.Canucklehead wrote: I don't expect anyone to follow me, but I do encourage you to take a close look at Mongoose's posts, which just read a litte goofy in tone to me...
While it could be the expected change of opinions as time goes on, it's suspicious enough to warrent someone to speak on her character/tendencies.
Here's an example from Day 1. Very non-commital.Enrique wrote:Bea I'm gonna be fair here... I've had games before where I came strongly in defense of somebody from the beginning, but then turned out wrong. Can't remember the specific players but this happened at least twice >_> Now, Made hasn't given me billions of reasons to trust him yet, but I think the case against him is BS and I'm sticking to that. The sarcastic orange did give me a little pause, and jeez how I'd hate to be wrong, but I'd sooner vote for some other people than him.
And then there is this post that strikes me as odd. I don't remember who said it before, but why would DFaraday say such a thing if they actually know each other. Could it have been pre-meditated? DFaraday says Ni.Enrique wrote:You.DFaraday wrote:So much to look over. I'm always wary of going after MP so early just because he is often lynched over nothing (although he was justly caught last time). I don't know Enrique or Made at all, so tomorrow I'll go over their stuff and see what jumps out.
Fuck.
You've known me for years, asshole
Again he clarified that he did not think that Made is a civ, which makes it even more peculiar that he would argue against llama's case so vigorously. Maybe I'll just ask the question to see if I get an actual answer.Enrique wrote:Metalmarsh I did not argue for the civvieness of Made, as if I needed to say this again, I've never had a clue as to what his role was. All I knew is that the original argument was far from a VERY solid point. Honestly, I'm not even gonna get into all this WIFOM. May even end up voting for Made, lol, we'll see how things develop.
I'd like a minute for rebuttal.Made wrote:Anyway you cut it, the best person to mute would be Llama.
Made that's not how things work. I think you've seen enough of me to know I stick to my guns as long as I believe in themMade wrote:In light of recent events, Enrique has my strongest civvie read, second only to you.S~V~S wrote: Made, do you still distrust Enrique? Or did you back off of that?
Honestly I think he's getting shit so he'll conform with the Made baddy theory
Early on, she struck me as testy, especially after you asked her to validate what you said about the chatroom. I did not totally get what the suspicion of her was, but i thought she was being cranky. Which is unlike her, she explained this to my satisfaction. I tend to think she is bad most of the time, so me not thinking that this game means she either switched up her game big time, or if she does flip bad, that my read on her is 180, and i should think the opposite of my gut.Made wrote:SVS, as we're winding down, what are your thoughts on juliets, I don't remember hearing them this game.
You can have 6.Epignosis wrote:I'd like a minute for rebuttal.Made wrote:Anyway you cut it, the best person to mute would be Llama.
I misspoke, corrected myself after posting thatEnrique wrote:Made wrote:In light of recent events, Enrique has my strongest civvie read, second only to you.S~V~S wrote: Made, do you still distrust Enrique? Or did you back off of that?
Honestly I think he's getting shit so he'll conform with the Made baddy theory
Made that's not how things work. I think you've seen enough of me to know I stick to my guns as long as I believe in them
Nope. I cooked fish over the fire yesterday. And it rained like a beast the first night.Metalmarsh89 wrote:You can have 6.Epignosis wrote:I'd like a minute for rebuttal.Made wrote:Anyway you cut it, the best person to mute would be Llama.
Welcome back, no bear meat for dinner?
And Epi, you are very wrong here. What persuades you to vote for me?Epignosis wrote:Nope. I cooked fish over the fire yesterday. And it rained like a beast the first night.Metalmarsh89 wrote:You can have 6.Epignosis wrote:I'd like a minute for rebuttal.Made wrote:Anyway you cut it, the best person to mute would be Llama.
Welcome back, no bear meat for dinner?
I voted for Juliets.
I wonder if somebody told HER to get in here and make a throwaway comment?Canucklehead wrote:I'm going through Mongoose's posts and am finding her stance on Hedgie a little hard to understand. Early on, she's unsure:Then just a little later, she is willing to speculate that Hedgie was probably on DF's team:Mongoose wrote:I've got nothing out of that, except maybe he was trying to gain civvie cred by throwing Hedgie under the bus? If she is even bad, which I'm not totally convinced of yet.
The rest is very generic, not a lot going on. Lots of "throat clearing" phrases.
The next (RL) day, Hedgie is downright suspicious for Mongoose:Mongoose wrote:Yeah, sorry. The one where he abruptly mentioned Hedgie. It didn't seem weird at the time, because others were mentioning her too, but in hindsight, I wonder if someone told him to get in here and make a throwaway comment.S~V~S wrote:Read what that way? One of Faradays posts? Which one?Mongoose wrote:I read it way more as distancing than protecting.S~V~S wrote:There are a lot of people here, not sure why they aren't talking
Epi~ you say something CAN be gleaned, but don't say what. Willing to share, or watching & waiting?
Linki, ah thanks Made, I was confuzzled, long day at workNote the repetition of the word "abrupt", which she previously used to characterize DF's "distancing" suspicions of Hedgie. This to me very much sounds like rehearsed or overly careful language....especially since just a few hours ago she wasn't sure why she had used that word:Mongoose wrote:Personally, I found her seemingly abrupt suspicion of SVS suspicious in of itself.juliets wrote:I am trying to understand the suspicion on Hedgie. I went back through her posts and all I saw was objection to her using the word "probably" in the above quote, the feeling being that she was trying to hedge her bets. Is this all that is out there or did I miss a big suspicion on her about something else?Hedgeowl wrote:Ok, gotta run, so voting SVS for now in case I dont make it back i time.
My feelings currently are that either MP or SVS are possibly a baddie, but probably not both. SVS's super focus on Made earlier in the game, made me suspicious, but then he redirection to Metal I found equally interesting. I would think of her voting for her top suspect. That also might have been to redirect focus from the llama-Enri-Made arguments, but I still thought it was unlike her. It made me think she was reacting to the heat she was getting about her Made suspicions.
Votes SVSBackpedalling b/c the Hedgie suspicion wasn't catching on in the thread?? (Perhaps because it was too associated with DF?)Mongoose wrote:In the intervening days, I've gone off you as a suspect anyway. I'm not sure what I meant by "abrupt" to be honest.
And then these two posts, which are very, very hand-wavey/"Move along! Nothing to see here!":Mongoose wrote:I think we were just jumpy and looking for any little tidbit to go on so early in the game.
But since you've been gone (I hope you had fun with A&E&E&C, by the way!), we've got some stronger suspecs now, as you can see.Again, note the very similar language between these two posts.Mongoose wrote:I think we were just overly jumpy in trying to find the smallest little thing that could be suspicious early on. I don't see what the big deal is now either. I think I just needed a bit of distance from the game(which setting my own game allowed me) to see that.
I honestly don't know what to make of this. Do Mongoose's posts always sound this scripted/overly careful? That's the impression I'm getting from them which, coupled with Epi's interesting observation about the possible disingenuous nature of her interactions with DF, is kinda making me think that Mongoose was a DF teamie, and that her strange backing off of the Hedgie thing is maybe a belated effort to do some distancing of her own after a failed attempt to tie DF and Hedgie together.
I dunno. I fully recognize that this is a very conjectural and not great case.....but I do find the Mongoose/DF connection interesting, and I think I'm going to vote there today. I don't expect anyone to follow me, but I do encourage you to take a close look at Mongoose's posts, which just read a litte goofy in tone to me...
But whyyy boogsie, votes are a serious thing, they're meant to end livesBoogs wrote:Im still out for a friend's cookout and don't have time to read 3 pages.im going to stay with Enrique since i eanted to vote him Day 1.
What? switch to AP? Wasn't that also a quick jump to conclusions?thellama73 wrote:Made, you are so freakin' bad I can't even stand it. That whole "oh, llama is muted? I must have been framed!" nonsense came out WAY too fast and seemed preplanned. Then you switch the lynch to poor AP? Not cool, man.
And there you do it again. Your assumption that everything anyone does is about you is not only arrogant, it reeks of baddieness.Made wrote:Also. For those who care, history is repeating itself. Mafia kept me alive because I'd be an easy lynch for the next day.
Read misfits, basically.
Right... Except the mafia weren't keeping you alive at all. Read the postgame. DH had a lynch stop, voted for me straight away then tried to end the lynch with me being the only person having any votes. It was nothing to do with you.Made wrote:Also. For those who care, history is repeating itself. Mafia kept me alive because I'd be an easy lynch for the next day.
Read misfits, basically.
AP was lynched despite not having the most votes. The only person who voted for him was himself. Unless AP's vote was worth five and he intentionally suicided, what other option is there than a lynch switch? I don't think that's jumping to conclusions.Metalmarsh89 wrote:What? switch to AP? Wasn't that also a quick jump to conclusions?thellama73 wrote:Made, you are so freakin' bad I can't even stand it. That whole "oh, llama is muted? I must have been framed!" nonsense came out WAY too fast and seemed preplanned. Then you switch the lynch to poor AP? Not cool, man.
But I agree on the other points.
Uh what, didn't you already?Metalmarsh89 wrote:What was your question.juliets wrote:So LC I noticed you voted for me but never did answer my question.
I'd be willing to vote for Enrique if it were to come down to it.
It's called mafia on your cell phone+ telling canuck I wouldn't self incriminate. Obviously I would of been a suspect.thellama73 wrote:Made, you are so freakin' bad I can't even stand it. That whole "oh, llama is muted? I must have been framed!" nonsense came out WAY too fast and seemed preplanned. Then you switch the lynch to poor AP? Not cool, man.
Why the hell wouldn't a baddie keep themselves alive? Especially at the cost of a civ life.Made wrote:It's called mafia on your cell phone+ telling canuck I wouldn't self incriminate. Obviously I would of been a suspect.thellama73 wrote:Made, you are so freakin' bad I can't even stand it. That whole "oh, llama is muted? I must have been framed!" nonsense came out WAY too fast and seemed preplanned. Then you switch the lynch to poor AP? Not cool, man.
Also for all those who think I switched the vote (if it's not just llama):
Why would a mafia keep themselves alive if everyone already distrust them?
Linki- bullz I didn't actually know that...misread DH then
Um, because they have to be alive to win the game? You are seriously reaching now.Made wrote: Why would a mafia keep themselves alive if everyone already distrust them?
If your role was to switch a vote, why wouldn't you? Might as well use that role before you die?Made wrote:It's called mafia on your cell phone+ telling canuck I wouldn't self incriminate. Obviously I would of been a suspect.thellama73 wrote:Made, you are so freakin' bad I can't even stand it. That whole "oh, llama is muted? I must have been framed!" nonsense came out WAY too fast and seemed preplanned. Then you switch the lynch to poor AP? Not cool, man.
Also for all those who think I switched the vote (if it's not just llama):
Why would a mafia keep themselves alive if everyone already distrust them?
Linki- bullz I didn't actually know that...misread DH then
I'm voting cider for a similar reason.thellama73 wrote:I'm voting for cherries. I like cherries.
And Roxy is more innovative than most. Metalmarsh89 wrote:Per Enrique. He spent a large portion of yesterday arguing against llama and myself (and others) that the case against Made was not nearly enough to lynch him. Not only that, but he said he didn't believe it to be true anyway. Following that, he refused to give any stance on Made regarding the incident, but continued to push against llama.
Here's an example from Day 1. Very non-commital.Enrique wrote:Bea I'm gonna be fair here... I've had games before where I came strongly in defense of somebody from the beginning, but then turned out wrong. Can't remember the specific players but this happened at least twice >_> Now, Made hasn't given me billions of reasons to trust him yet, but I think the case against him is BS and I'm sticking to that. The sarcastic orange did give me a little pause, and jeez how I'd hate to be wrong, but I'd sooner vote for some other people than him.
And then there is this post that strikes me as odd. I don't remember who said it before, but why would DFaraday say such a thing if they actually know each other. Could it have been pre-meditated? DFaraday says Ni.Enrique wrote:You.DFaraday wrote:So much to look over. I'm always wary of going after MP so early just because he is often lynched over nothing (although he was justly caught last time). I don't know Enrique or Made at all, so tomorrow I'll go over their stuff and see what jumps out.
Fuck.
You've known me for years, asshole
Again he clarified that he did not think that Made is a civ, which makes it even more peculiar that he would argue against llama's case so vigorously. Maybe I'll just ask the question to see if I get an actual answer.Enrique wrote:Metalmarsh I did not argue for the civvieness of Made, as if I needed to say this again, I've never had a clue as to what his role was. All I knew is that the original argument was far from a VERY solid point. Honestly, I'm not even gonna get into all this WIFOM. May even end up voting for Made, lol, we'll see how things develop.
Enrique, what are your thoughts on Made? Do you think he is good or bad? Should we lynch him?
