The Syndicate

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:10 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:53 pm filthy homestuck reference

I wonder if something is influencing me to think about Homestuck lately.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:58 pm Interesting last sentence. It's a good way to look at it. I'd say Dragomir fits that profile well. Maybe Nova?

Should we look through Epi's suspects?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:58 pm You know what, I'ma vote Jay. I really want to see what he flips. Nothing against you Jay.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:58 pm Interesting last sentence. It's a good way to look at it. I'd say Dragomir fits that profile well. Maybe Nova?

Should we look through Epi's suspects?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:34 pm I just voted fayt right away because she was the obvious next candidate after Jay's flip and the consensus vig target that didn't happen. I'm not just going for the path of least resistance, I definitely think we need to talk through our other options but I think she is the logical place to start. If you disagree please engage with me on that point. LC did so a bit regarding how yesterday's lynch went, so that is at least something to chew on but it didn't make her look particularly better in my eyes.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:58 pm Interesting last sentence. It's a good way to look at it. I'd say Dragomir fits that profile well. Maybe Nova?

Should we look through Epi's suspects?

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:58 pm Interesting last sentence. It's a good way to look at it. I'd say Dragomir fits that profile well. Maybe Nova?

Should we look through Epi's suspects?

I agre with this. Especially since nova literally has only just been on the dom is bad train with zero development for several days now

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:31 am Michelle's is someone I've been liking less and less. Felt like she was beating around the bush with Jay in how she was handling him, she talked herself into voting him in a weird way lol.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:13 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:58 pm You know what, I'ma vote Jay. I really want to see what he flips. Nothing against you Jay.

Honestly what do we think of this?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:23 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:34 pm I just voted fayt right away because she was the obvious next candidate after Jay's flip and the consensus vig target that didn't happen. I'm not just going for the path of least resistance, I definitely think we need to talk through our other options but I think she is the logical place to start. If you disagree please engage with me on that point. LC did so a bit regarding how yesterday's lynch went, so that is at least something to chew on but it didn't make her look particularly better in my eyes.

What's your take on it?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:24 am Also it's not really just EoD, it's basically the whole phase. Like she had given up and accepted her death for the greater good lol.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:48 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:31 am Michelle's is someone I've been liking less and less. Felt like she was beating around the bush with Jay in how she was handling him, she talked herself into voting him in a weird way lol.

I think I remember thinking something like that about her too.

@Michelle speak to me. Show me your inno child.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:39 am @Michelle where's your head at fam?

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:49 am From today I dislike the most Nutella for inconsistency.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:53 am When you say I pocketed you as a wolf are you referring to the hydra game on mu?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:33 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:58 pm Interesting last sentence. It's a good way to look at it. I'd say Dragomir fits that profile well. Maybe Nova?

Should we look through Epi's suspects?

I agre with this. Especially since nova literally has only just been on the dom is bad train with zero development for several days now

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:49 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:48 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:31 am Michelle's is someone I've been liking less and less. Felt like she was beating around the bush with Jay in how she was handling him, she talked herself into voting him in a weird way lol.

I think I remember thinking something like that about her too.

@Michelle speak to me. Show me your inno child.

I was multitabling and with a busy RL. Now is monday morning and i have ahead the busiest day of the week. I will play in the work breaks.

JJJ pissed me off with his Poe thing and finally my nerves prevailed to logic. I am sorry but i am only a human. A dog i mean.
If this is a reason to lynch me i can only shrug.

I would look for the one who has the largest Poe rn because searching for one single scum doesn't mean you can change all the reads and accuse everyone.
From today I dislike the most Nutella for inconsistency. She may be wolfing and i had a question mark since yesterday. She previously pocketed me as wolf and her easy town read on me strikes me now as odd.

Note that i disliked Epi's posts and words and i answered at his posts but didn't push him back because i thought he may be a civ. The NK says i was right and if i was scum why i would let go the chance to omgus while Dragomir had such a jucy case against him? This is all i can bark in my defense.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:09 am Let me go down the list again.
Mac, I trust; if he's bad I have been thoroughly fooled. I will probably only seriously consider lynching him if it comes down to F3, which it better not tbh.

Ngl Mac's facilitator's role has been giving me the heebie jeebies although still gth good.. Could be a big scam, and like throughout the game I've been feeling just ok/good about him. But there is no definite good thing he did in my mind, a moment where I go "this dude is town" lol. Looking at Jay's legacy posts, he mentioned his play being along these lines.


LC, I waffle on and have kept in mind as a possibility but Jay and Mac have stated confidence in his townie tone enough times to influence my view, and he seems to be legitimately trying to solve.

What have you been waffling on about him?

Michelle, I have some paranoia I'm wrong about her but I've had the strongest tone civ read of her almost all game and as far as I remember offhand her interactions with the dead cats / her general presence in previous days has seemed innocent enough.
My gut is telling me Nova vs Dom is town/town.

I honestly don't feel like I'm wrong about him. He's so full of shit, and has like a fucking shady tone about him. The way he cases is vicious lol. He switches between an extremely agressive tone to messing around, also all his stances are going off of other people's cases. He just like beat people up in a series of posts when he shows up, then dips. It's also mostly superficial stuff like Drago being stubborn , I don't see him digging into their posts or trying to prod them to figure them out.

What's your full present take on him? You mentioned him a couple of times being in your PoE, also asked me about him and you still haven't given me anything.
That leaves Fayt and Drago. Thinking back to yesterday, Fayt seemed to go along with the tie plan, which could indicate she (a) really understood that her slot needed to be solved, and/or (b) despite having townread jay previously, had enough hope that he could be bad and the softvote plan would work; both of these indicate innocence. However, several other data points, such as dead cat interactions and previous treatment of Jay, do not look good on her.
Drago... is a bit of a weird case. Rej's refusal to vote for him, speed's "could they both be bad" line, and a few other things reflect poorly on him; he also hard defended Jay for a while, until he bizarrely solidified Jay's lynch because he "needed to see how he flipped." My current concern about his behavior yesterday is that he saw how the tide turned on Jay and Fayt and saw that the town was desperate to solve both of those slots, and he decided to use that to his advantage to buy him a couple more day phases, and knowing the consensus plan was for the vig to target Fayt, potentially he successfully used his role block on that in order to prolong the focus on Fayt.

Yeah. I'm comfortable with this. Until today I was so reluctant to seriously consider Dragomir, but whatever reasons I had for assuming he was town do not stand up to the strength of this current theory in my mind. He's a sneaky kitty.

I'm torn on Drago, got a pretty decent track record of reading him although I messed up our last game together. Early on seemed like I was seeing scum!drago but I've cooled off since with how he kept double-down and being stubborn af. It's a weird way for scum to act, and he's usually like that as town. He's more cooperative as scum. There is also the Dom stuff who I feel like was using Drago as an easy scum read to fake and like an easy target especially with how everyone was hounding him. One thing that I didn't like is how I feel like he's avoiding me lol, I prodded him a few times for reads and impressions and he never got back to me. It's weird 'cause he's usually talkative with me and we discuss a lot in the thread.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:34 am [VOTE: dragomir] aubergine

if I've been right about this the whole time....

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:33 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:58 pm Interesting last sentence. It's a good way to look at it. I'd say Dragomir fits that profile well. Maybe Nova?

Should we look through Epi's suspects?

I agre with this. Especially since nova literally has only just been on the dom is bad train with zero development for several days now

....
except your accusation against me is days old, and no longer has merit.
I've expressed several other positions and voted for jay yesterday.

Get wrecked bro and actually try because you're probably not bad.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:33 pm Everything from Day 1, obvi. I'll try and formulate my thoughts when I'm done playing video games fro the night

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:37 pm That's a weird thing to say lol.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:34 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:13 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:58 pm You know what, I'ma vote Jay. I really want to see what he flips. Nothing against you Jay.

Honestly what do we think of this?

It is weird. If Drago's bad he could have taken advantage of the Jay lynch to buy him another day, and then maybe he was able to block the vig hit on Fayt with the assumption that we'd eat up yet another day lynching Fayt. Ugh I don't want to feel like I'm falling into a trap voting for fayt.

Damn this makes sense though. He was defending Jay like hell (TMI) right up until Jay was actually getting lynched and then he decided to use it to his advantage to steer us wrong.

Fuck it [VOTE: dragomir] aubergine

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:09 am Drago... is a bit of a weird case. Rej's refusal to vote for him, speed's "could they both be bad" line, and a few other things reflect poorly on him; he also hard defended Jay for a while, until he bizarrely solidified Jay's lynch because he "needed to see how he flipped." My current concern about his behavior yesterday is that he saw how the tide turned on Jay and Fayt and saw that the town was desperate to solve both of those slots, and he decided to use that to his advantage to buy him a couple more day phases, and knowing the consensus plan was for the vig to target Fayt, potentially he successfully used his role block on that in order to prolong the focus on Fayt.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:33 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:47 pmHmm.

Hmm what?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:49 pm It's either Dom or Michelle for me but I need to read back at them to get my best feel.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:49 pm It's either Dom or Michelle for me but I need to read back at them to get my best feel.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:02 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:49 pm It's either Dom or Michelle for me but I need to read back at them to get my best feel.

I want for real to know your ideas.
What i dislike at you is not just the 1st day wagon formation, is also the cases you made, the idea you voted JJJ no matter alignament to see his flip, and an insecure feeling I had after D2. And a slight reservation in playstyle. You are holding yourself back. Just my feeling.
If you are not the last cat you have to explain this very good because you are in the spotlight now.
Pointing at me will not help because i am villager.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:05 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:49 pm It's either Dom or Michelle for me but I need to read back at them to get my best feel.

your own words sound cool.
How did you come up with this?

Fayt wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:43 am I'm still waiting on what Dragomir has to say.