The Syndicate

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:37 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:37 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:36 am

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:35 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:33 am

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:32 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:31 am

I seriously don't care Kami, if ur gonna be combative and annoying btw I'm just gonna let u die lol

How am I being combative and annoying? She made like 30 posts today pushing me for bad reasons and you are a good enough player to be able to tell she's a wolf so why can't you?

lmfao

Yeah i'm not being annoying I'm just curious how you can't tell shes mafia when it's clear as day, so tell me why you town read her

you redirect every question I ask to stupid shit I don't care about, and you did it with the transcend thing which isn't even a question. Start actually playing the game and talking to people or die.

Is this helpful?

yes because i love talking to esooa

Carry on.

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:37 am [VOTE: Kami] aubergine

you tell me to play the game but entire day 1 you just wanna policy people and now ur voting me when you know i'm town

why arent you playing the game?

Drop or get a better transcend read and give your read on me and I might move my vote, but I'm not until those are done

Ahem.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:30 am I think Alison and fingersplints are teammates.

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:39 am Drop or get a better transcend read and give your read on me and I might move my vote, but I'm not until those are done

Isn't my read on you obvious?

I think trans is mafia if you're gonna vote me for that you can have fun losing to him
glgl

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:40 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:39 am Drop or get a better transcend read and give your read on me and I might move my vote, but I'm not until those are done

Isn't my read on you obvious?

Then say it? Hello?

And your world view to me atm is wolf reading an IC for ???? reasons and omgus'ing as hard as you can. I think you're town but, fucking yikes lol

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:40 am Ahem.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:30 am I think Alison and fingersplints are teammates.

I think finger is town

Are you two playing the same game I am?

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:42 am

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:40 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:39 am Drop or get a better transcend read and give your read on me and I might move my vote, but I'm not until those are done

Isn't my read on you obvious?

Then say it? Hello?

And your world view to me atm is wolf reading an IC for ???? reasons and omgus'ing as hard as you can. I think you're town but, fucking yikes lol

I would if you didn't make it a command

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:42 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:40 am Ahem.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:30 am I think Alison and fingersplints are teammates.

I think finger is town

But don't finger the town.

Yeah, I'm fucking off. Nobody is playing Mafia. It's silly bullshit instead.

I've made my case and stance clear.

Off I go.

Kitty doe

Why do you think I am partnered with splints, Epi?

are there ISO links anywhere

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:22 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:48 pm Kami has repeatedly tried to tie her alignment to Made's (eg. #1095, "Me and Made are the most obvious townies in the thread"). There is no reason to believe Made is town at that point and she has proffered no reasoning behind "his posts are townie idk". She has also repeatedly attacked anyone accusing her of blatant TMI and attempted to discredit them, including an attempt to push Transcend who is obvious town. I believe she was banking on Made flipping town (especially with buddies she can call on to pile on votes on him) and attempted to use him as a cheap way to give herself credit.

Made didn't do a single wolfy thing, and he also never TMIed.
There was no reason to vote him, and I defended him before he was ever a wagon. So how can I make this grand plan when he had 2 votes?

Can confirm my notes agree that Kami was the only one not to call Made hard scum Kami voted for Falcon and HK no one else afaik

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:31 am

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:30 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:28 am Kami trans isn't a wolf and if you're town you should sheep that

okay then why arent u voting alisson when she's lying to push me

I seriously don't care Kami, if ur gonna be combative and annoying btw I'm just gonna let u die lol

lol

Alison
Ender
EPI
Esooa
Falcon
Splints
Kat
Kami
Lime
Made
AxeHole
<---- Just click on my posts - Rondo
Sean
Syn
Transend

made didn't do a single scummy thing and I stand by that

Will do some basic ISOing tonight to start my association web.

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:41 am I think trans is mafia if you're gonna vote me for that you can have fun losing to him
glgl

Can you elaborate on why you think Trans is scum?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:06 am Will do some basic ISOing tonight to start my association web.

associate me, baby

@EnderWiggin if you want to pull posts you think aren't w/w I can see what I think too

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:14 am @EnderWiggin if you want to pull posts you think aren't w/w I can see what I think too

Finishing work and doing all the "get dinner ready" stuff first.

I'm not really able to dedicate more than 20% of my brain to the game until I'm off work otherwise my boss will notice and go after me lmao.

But sure, once I start I'll grab the posts I'm thinking about and throw them up so you can take a look.

part of why I was pretty annoyed at Kami earlier is because this is literally the exact same interaction Alison and Kami had day 1 of lasagna mafia

they were both t/t as well so I think it's really dumb they're repeating the same thing

in fact it's so bad it makes me want to yeet them both because... just how is this the read town!them are stuck on

anyways, I can honestly just copy paste my read on Kami from lasagna and it's literally just as applicable

Kami - I don't think Kami tunnels like this as scum right off the bat. They're more concerned with pocketing/appearing "villagery" as a wolf

so anyways

Kami hasn't tried to buddy me at all. In fact she shirks away from me. Kami also is playing pretty directly against her win con as a wolf by pushing transcend. He's not going anywhere and it's giving her literally nothing.

Kami as a wolf would do more distancing with her partner, which I don't see her as all her pushes have been basically death tunnel levels for no reason (I don't see this strong of a commitment to distancing from any of her wolf game; I haven't read her ISO but if she hard pushes someone then kinda drops caring about it when it's time to push townies, that means she's a wolf lol)

would do more 'solving,' as in has an interest in trying to talk about players at large to look towny

and also just.. wouldn't be as clean as she is here, tbh. I think her tunnel on alison is childish, but if you look at her ISO there's actually reasonably progression into the read. It didn't just show up--which isn't uncommon in wolf!kamis play

the biggest concern I have here is that Kami is leveling her wolf play. I'm concerned about that for two reasons

one is that one of her wolf read is transcend. This honestly stretches the meaning of believable and I'm not sure I do believe she can actually scum read him, were she a villager. This is also applicable to her alison read, imo

the other is that her play isn't that hard to do as a wolf and so she could be playing into meta I've given before

for the first, I don't know. It does concern me

for the second, I've actually played against wolf!Kami since having given that meta on her in lasagna, and her wolf game mostly stayed the same. I don't think she would not change her wolf game after learning the meta for one game, then randomly change it on the second. It's at least unlikely

that is to say I believe Kami is town

We lose if you vote me pretty simple

Esooa compare town Alisonn tunneling me day 1 last game to her day 1 here. She actually 1100% believed I was wolf last game and actively tried very very hard to get me killed. She did nothing like that this game and just weakly pushed me without putting in any effort to actually getting me lynched.
She did NOTHING day one to actual push any of her reads, and her main town read was on Rondo who did nothing noteworthy to be the only town read she felt was worth mentioning. She sat on me all day and clearly did not care about the outcome of the lynch.
I also did not OMGUS at all this game, I wolf read Falcon/Trans and HK before they even commented on my alignment. So stop saying I'm omgusing when all of those 3 minus Trans are the ones who actually voted me after I threw sus on them.

Sorry but read day 1 where we are t/t if you are using that as your basis for being annoyed at me and see how differently she's acted, she's literally outting herself by how big of a difference it is.

I'll read her ISO and consider it tomorrow

I just don't feel like this is a productive dome even if alison is a wolf, tbh

there's 4 wolves and all

Also tran's push on Made is outting too. Both alisonn and him use the excuse of "TMI" for wolf reading someone because they can't make up real reasons. It's literally a wolf tell.
Made did not TMI what so ever and it was obvious before he even flipped that reason was BULLSHIT.

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:46 am I'll read her ISO and consider it tomorrow

I just don't feel like this is a productive dome even if alison is a wolf, tbh

there's 4 wolves and all

I didn't even dome her day 1 and I'm down to vote HK but it's obvious she's wolf too

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:47 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:46 am I'll read her ISO and consider it tomorrow

I just don't feel like this is a productive dome even if alison is a wolf, tbh

there's 4 wolves and all

I didn't even dome her day 1 and I'm down to vote HK but it's obvious she's wolf too

alright

My read on made wasn't TMI because the only reason I town read him was because he earned a day one pass and I can admit that now that's he's dead.

But he also did nothing wolfy so I stand by the stance that the wolfs banded together to vote him

well at least with these posts I'm a lot more confident you're town

I'm off to bed after this post, but I did wanna say that a slight tinfoil I had on Kami that I wasn't sure whether to pursue or not was that this playstyle could possibly be able to be mimicked as scum, but I'm reassured from Esooa's mega post how her scum game is differentiated by her town play that she's just town. So I think I can just throw that in the trash.

I'm also going to chip in that I really just think Ali is also town here. Esooa mentioned that the two already squabbled in a previous game and I really just think the two of them have poor chemistry cause Alison is fairly calm but a hard hitter, and Kami is just abrasive and "my way or the highway".

The bulk of this day has been "Alison vs. Kami" and this whole argument has distracted pretty much all other discussion from happening. Even if I SR him, I do think that Epi does have a decent case that I'm potentially willing to buy r.e. finger. I do want to see how she handles things today, but the bulk of today being AvK doesn't sit well in my stomach and gives me the vibe that scum are just chilling in their PT being happy that the town is imploding.

I mean think about it. Hollow is scummy af, hasn't shown up yet. Axe did weird shit yesterday, hasn't shown up yet. Finger is in the dog house. She seems to be in a time zone that makes it difficult to play, but still, a no show.

This really gives me the vibe that the thread synergy is not very good right now and I think Alison and Kami are just both town that absolutely clash when it comes to their approaches to the game. Anyways, that's just my two cents. Good night y'all <3

I think it's still not unlikely Alison is a wolf fwiw and I need to read her ISO. But I did wolf read her day 1 for a reason

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:46 am Also tran's push on Made is outting too. Both alisonn and him use the excuse of "TMI" for wolf reading someone because they can't make up real reasons. It's literally a wolf tell.
Made did not TMI what so ever and it was obvious before he even flipped that reason was BULLSHIT.

I'm outed because I was wrong? Alison is outed because she was wrong? With your logic that means the other 6 ppl (including the homie that already died) are outed because they were wrong.

Please take a chill pill dude. You've literally been confbiased on the same four people since you walked into the game. I genuinely cannot take anything you say seriously.

Transcend wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:50 am I'm off to bed after this post, but I did wanna say that a slight tinfoil I had on Kami that I wasn't sure whether to pursue or not was that this playstyle could possibly be able to be mimicked as scum, but I'm reassured from Esooa's mega post how her scum game is differentiated by her town play that she's just town. So I think I can just throw that in the trash.

I'm also going to chip in that I really just think Ali is also town here. Esooa mentioned that the two already squabbled in a previous game and I really just think the two of them have poor chemistry cause Alison is fairly calm but a hard hitter, and Kami is just abrasive and "my way or the highway".

The bulk of this day has been "Alison vs. Kami" and this whole argument has distracted pretty much all other discussion from happening. Even if I SR him, I do think that Epi does have a decent case that I'm potentially willing to buy r.e. finger. I do want to see how she handles things today, but the bulk of today being AvK doesn't sit well in my stomach and gives me the vibe that scum are just chilling in their PT being happy that the town is imploding.

I mean think about it. Hollow is scummy af, hasn't shown up yet. Axe did weird shit yesterday, hasn't shown up yet. Finger is in the dog house. She seems to be in a time zone that makes it difficult to play, but still, a no show.

This really gives me the vibe that the thread synergy is not very good right now and I think Alison and Kami are just both town that absolutely clash when it comes to their approaches to the game. Anyways, that's just my two cents. Good night y'all <3

Just say ur a wolf and ur gonna flip ur read on me to get me misslynched bruh

Transcend wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:53 am

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:46 am Also tran's push on Made is outting too. Both alisonn and him use the excuse of "TMI" for wolf reading someone because they can't make up real reasons. It's literally a wolf tell.
Made did not TMI what so ever and it was obvious before he even flipped that reason was BULLSHIT.

I'm outed because I was wrong? Alison is outed because she was wrong? With your logic that means the other 6 ppl (including the homie that already died) are outed because they were wrong.

Please take a chill pill dude. You've literally been confbiased on the same four people since you walked into the game. I genuinely cannot take anything you say seriously.

No your outted because it's a fake read and a fake reason for scum reading him. It's literally a throw away phrase that means NOTHING, and it was only used by you to push a read you couldn't properly explain because you're a wolf who has to make reads up

my point of saying it was tvt before was that I'd expect more,, worry from eachother that it's the same thing again--which isn't really something I have seen

I actually thought it made them both more likely mafia individually that it happened again but I'm pretty content with kamis side of it now. Which still just leaves Alison

I think Alison... does have more reasons to wolf read her her? Like they're not terrible, and town alison could believe them but, still

my biggest thing with Alison is I've disliked the places she's focused and the Kami read is imo indicative of that

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:53 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:50 am I'm off to bed after this post, but I did wanna say that a slight tinfoil I had on Kami that I wasn't sure whether to pursue or not was that this playstyle could possibly be able to be mimicked as scum, but I'm reassured from Esooa's mega post how her scum game is differentiated by her town play that she's just town. So I think I can just throw that in the trash.

I'm also going to chip in that I really just think Ali is also town here. Esooa mentioned that the two already squabbled in a previous game and I really just think the two of them have poor chemistry cause Alison is fairly calm but a hard hitter, and Kami is just abrasive and "my way or the highway".

The bulk of this day has been "Alison vs. Kami" and this whole argument has distracted pretty much all other discussion from happening. Even if I SR him, I do think that Epi does have a decent case that I'm potentially willing to buy r.e. finger. I do want to see how she handles things today, but the bulk of today being AvK doesn't sit well in my stomach and gives me the vibe that scum are just chilling in their PT being happy that the town is imploding.

I mean think about it. Hollow is scummy af, hasn't shown up yet. Axe did weird shit yesterday, hasn't shown up yet. Finger is in the dog house. She seems to be in a time zone that makes it difficult to play, but still, a no show.

This really gives me the vibe that the thread synergy is not very good right now and I think Alison and Kami are just both town that absolutely clash when it comes to their approaches to the game. Anyways, that's just my two cents. Good night y'all <3

Just say ur a wolf and ur gonna flip ur read on me to get me misslynched bruh

All I said was that Alison's case on you is convincing. I also stated that I still think you're town and I wouldn't vote you let alone vote you by proxy. You're extremely paranoid for no reason, my gal.

She hasn't made a case other than "TMI LOL"

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:54 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:53 am

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:46 am Also tran's push on Made is outting too. Both alisonn and him use the excuse of "TMI" for wolf reading someone because they can't make up real reasons. It's literally a wolf tell.
Made did not TMI what so ever and it was obvious before he even flipped that reason was BULLSHIT.

I'm outed because I was wrong? Alison is outed because she was wrong? With your logic that means the other 6 ppl (including the homie that already died) are outed because they were wrong.

Please take a chill pill dude. You've literally been confbiased on the same four people since you walked into the game. I genuinely cannot take anything you say seriously.

No your outted because it's a fake read and a fake reason for scum reading him. It's literally a throw away phrase that means NOTHING, and it was only used by you to push a read you couldn't properly explain because you're a wolf who has to make reads up

Can't you just accept that we're two different ppl and our perceptions on different things might be different? What you may perceive wouldn't appear sus to me and vice versa.

Playing with Kami really makes me want to throw my phone at a wall

Transcend wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:58 am Playing with Kami really makes me want to throw my phone at a wall

There is no reason for you to be mad right now, seems fake.

Transcend wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:57 am

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:54 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:53 am

Kami wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:46 am Also tran's push on Made is outting too. Both alisonn and him use the excuse of "TMI" for wolf reading someone because they can't make up real reasons. It's literally a wolf tell.
Made did not TMI what so ever and it was obvious before he even flipped that reason was BULLSHIT.

I'm outed because I was wrong? Alison is outed because she was wrong? With your logic that means the other 6 ppl (including the homie that already died) are outed because they were wrong.

Please take a chill pill dude. You've literally been confbiased on the same four people since you walked into the game. I genuinely cannot take anything you say seriously.

No your outted because it's a fake read and a fake reason for scum reading him. It's literally a throw away phrase that means NOTHING, and it was only used by you to push a read you couldn't properly explain because you're a wolf who has to make reads up

Can't you just accept that we're two different ppl and our perceptions on different things might be different? What you may perceive wouldn't appear sus to me and vice versa.

But isn't that the basis of you and alisonn wolf reading me? My perception is TMI? lol

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:55 am my point of saying it was tvt before was that I'd expect more,, worry from eachother that it's the same thing again--which isn't really something I have seen

I actually thought it made them both more likely mafia individually that it happened again but I'm pretty content with kamis side of it now. Which still just leaves Alison

I think Alison... does have more reasons to wolf read her her? Like they're not terrible, and town alison could believe them but, still

my biggest thing with Alison is I've disliked the places she's focused and the Kami read is imo indicative of that

I don't like the places she's focused either but it's not necessarily scummy. I just don't agree with her.

lol right now I'm just laughing at kamis posts tbh

Kami, I know how to read transcend. He's not a wolf

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:00 am lol right now I'm just laughing at kamis posts tbh

Kami, I know how to read transcend. He's not a wolf

you always laugh at everything I say tho im a comedian