The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:44 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:43 pm Theres no hammers and 24 hours left in the day, votes right now are basically meaningless lol, idk why you're dejected trans we almost never kill mid day wagons here in syndicate land

Cause alexa (who im confident is town) thinks i'm a wolf and has enough clout to just brute yeet me if she wanted to

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:44 pm**

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:42 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:22 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:15 pm I skimmed through the opening of ilario's scum game that you linked wiml and it doesn't seem like a dramatic difference to me? Maybe I'll read it in depth more later but yeah not seeing it atm
Tbf it's a lot like alexa said. Like the best comparison is a player like Esooa who is a really capable wolf but half of her town games are just very different and she's easy to find in them?

alexa in particular is a good enough illario reader that she was so (correctly) confident that a red peek on him was fake that she wanted to chop the (real) cop.

I think the one thing that is a tangible non-meta difference is how much he focuses on pushing agendas. One thing I recall noticing in a lot of illario's wolf games is that there's a lack of real depth to his ISOs and he mostly just pushes opportunistic takes. I talked about it earlier but he's a very A to B style wolf.

If he's still in doubt later then I'll go through his wolf games and try to actively towncase why he's town this game since it's a but difficult to do outside of meta. But I'm like 90% confident he is tbh.
I mean, fmpov pushing me IS a pretty opportunistic take, yeah?
Why ilario specifically and not the other people pushing you?

I'm not SRing him for pushing me, im just pointing out that "he's opportunistic as mafia" isn't a reason to clear him fmpov given his push on me

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:45 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:43 pm Theres no hammers and 24 hours left in the day, votes right now are basically meaningless lol, idk why you're dejected trans we almost never kill mid day wagons here in syndicate land

Cause alexa (who im confident is town) thinks i'm a wolf and has enough clout to just brute yeet me if she wanted to

Relax you're not likely going over today

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:45 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:43 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:43 pm why do you expected to get fucked d1 in stacked tables then?
Cause i'm the oddball out

I'm pretty sure I'm the oddball out in this game but go off king

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:46 pm**

K

I'm relaxed

But usually i have a good gut of when i'm going bye bye in games and it's triggering rn

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:46 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:43 pm Theres no hammers and 24 hours left in the day, votes right now are basically meaningless lol, idk why you're dejected trans we almost never kill mid day wagons here in syndicate land

Cause alexa (who im confident is town) thinks i'm a wolf and has enough clout to just brute yeet me if she wanted to

i have no desire to ML you if you're town
i'm doing what i can to try to find you -.-

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:46 pm**

who do you scumread besides like brad?

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:47 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:46 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:43 pm Theres no hammers and 24 hours left in the day, votes right now are basically meaningless lol, idk why you're dejected trans we almost never kill mid day wagons here in syndicate land

Cause alexa (who im confident is town) thinks i'm a wolf and has enough clout to just brute yeet me if she wanted to
i have no desire to ML you if you're town
i'm doing what i can to try to find you -.-

I know you are and that's why i tr you

But no matter what I do you sr me for it and i'm literally here just being me

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:47 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:43 pm Theres no hammers and 24 hours left in the day, votes right now are basically meaningless lol, idk why you're dejected trans we almost never kill mid day wagons here in syndicate land

Cause alexa (who im confident is town) thinks i'm a wolf and has enough clout to just brute yeet me if she wanted to

Ok but there are other players in this game besides alexa who can brute force the vote lol.

And alexa is generally open to listen to a lot of people anyway.

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:48 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:46 pm K

I'm relaxed

But usually i have a good gut of when i'm going bye bye in games and it's triggering rn

D2 is much more likely than today imo

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:48 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:46 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:43 pm Theres no hammers and 24 hours left in the day, votes right now are basically meaningless lol, idk why you're dejected trans we almost never kill mid day wagons here in syndicate land

Cause alexa (who im confident is town) thinks i'm a wolf and has enough clout to just brute yeet me if she wanted to
i have no desire to ML you if you're town
i'm doing what i can to try to find you -.-

^^^^^

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:48 pm**

Does that relax you

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:49 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:47 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:46 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:43 pm Theres no hammers and 24 hours left in the day, votes right now are basically meaningless lol, idk why you're dejected trans we almost never kill mid day wagons here in syndicate land

Cause alexa (who im confident is town) thinks i'm a wolf and has enough clout to just brute yeet me if she wanted to
i have no desire to ML you if you're town
i'm doing what i can to try to find you -.-
I know you are and that's why i tr you

But no matter what I do you sr me for it and i'm literally here just being me

i'll admit i was one of the people /????ing the instant townreads on you. i also have more experience with you arguably than anyone at this table besides ilario and if ilario has you as town still i would be willing to sheep that but he's also finding you scummy
i would not strongarm my read on you here and me suspecting you does not determine your death

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:49 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:39 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm your read on brad just doesn't feel real to me, matt
I've gathered that

Dunno what to tell you

I have done my best to explain in detail why I'm not TR him. If you don't buy it, that's your prerogative. I can't spend the entire time trying to make myself appear genuine to u.

every single transcend post about this read reminds me STRONGLY of when transcend got caught in mountain climbing for doubling down on a really bad position irt sleep votes lol

completely fine with voting here and completely fine with voting nanook for doing nothing

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:50 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:46 pm who do you scumread besides like brad?

Idk i kinda wanna see how everyone posts today

Ur lock town

I still think mac and Tony are town

Alison was towny initially but i haven't seen her in awhile and want to see where she currently stands.

Ilario is towny, but caught heat. I can't ignore the fact that someone might be on to something on a tough egg to crack.

Wiml's progression through the game looks p towny

Esooa had towny posts

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:51 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:49 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:39 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm your read on brad just doesn't feel real to me, matt
I've gathered that

Dunno what to tell you

I have done my best to explain in detail why I'm not TR him. If you don't buy it, that's your prerogative. I can't spend the entire time trying to make myself appear genuine to u.
every single transcend post about this read reminds me STRONGLY of when transcend got caught in mountain climbing for doubling down on a really bad position irt sleep votes lol

completely fine with voting here and completely fine with voting nanook for doing nothing

yeah he's reminding me a lot of his wolf games
but i've only ever seen him as wolf lmao

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:51 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:49 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:39 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm your read on brad just doesn't feel real to me, matt
I've gathered that

Dunno what to tell you

I have done my best to explain in detail why I'm not TR him. If you don't buy it, that's your prerogative. I can't spend the entire time trying to make myself appear genuine to u.
every single transcend post about this read reminds me STRONGLY of when transcend got caught in mountain climbing for doubling down on a really bad position irt sleep votes lol

completely fine with voting here and completely fine with voting nanook for doing nothing

I definitely haven't done nothing and you definitely know that I am well within my town range

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:52 pm**

Maybe i'm just really good at comparing my town and wolf games and since u have only seen me as wolf you're just gonna sr me nm what cause this is how i play

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:53 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:50 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:46 pm who do you scumread besides like brad?
Idk i kinda wanna see how everyone posts today

Ur lock town

I still think mac and Tony are town

Alison was towny initially but i haven't seen her in awhile and want to see where she currently stands.

Ilario is towny, but caught heat. I can't ignore the fact that someone might be on to something on a tough egg to crack.

Wiml's progression through the game looks p towny

Esooa had towny posts

For your TSP read is that because of meta or him individually making towny posts?

Ignoring him defending you, do you have a read on Nook you'd mind sharing?

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:54 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:51 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:49 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:39 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm your read on brad just doesn't feel real to me, matt
I've gathered that

Dunno what to tell you

I have done my best to explain in detail why I'm not TR him. If you don't buy it, that's your prerogative. I can't spend the entire time trying to make myself appear genuine to u.
every single transcend post about this read reminds me STRONGLY of when transcend got caught in mountain climbing for doubling down on a really bad position irt sleep votes lol

completely fine with voting here and completely fine with voting nanook for doing nothing
I definitely haven't done nothing and you definitely know that I am well within my town range

okay well u know that I pseudo policy people who don't do much day 1 in terms of interactions/giving thoughts

I'm just saying it's never a vote I'll say "no" to really tbh

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:54 pm**

Everyone says they read me as scum if i have a dirty agenda

How do i have a dirty agenda here? How is my doubt on a universal tr indicate a dirty agenda?

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:54 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:52 pm Maybe i'm just really good at comparing my town and wolf games and since u have only seen me as wolf you're just gonna sr me nm what cause this is how i play

ik from spectating that you have very solid reads in your town games and usually get n1ed/die early
so i'm trying to figure out if i'm missing something on brad
but i'm not the only one who feels this way. obviously esooa, wiml, ilario etc agreeing w/me is enough to make me even more confident on the read

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:54 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:51 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:49 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:39 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm your read on brad just doesn't feel real to me, matt
I've gathered that

Dunno what to tell you

I have done my best to explain in detail why I'm not TR him. If you don't buy it, that's your prerogative. I can't spend the entire time trying to make myself appear genuine to u.
every single transcend post about this read reminds me STRONGLY of when transcend got caught in mountain climbing for doubling down on a really bad position irt sleep votes lol

completely fine with voting here and completely fine with voting nanook for doing nothing
yeah he's reminding me a lot of his wolf games
but i've only ever seen him as wolf lmao

I played with Transcend town but it was right as I started FM and was a really dead game. Fwiw I recall him being pretty obvious town and then he died N1.

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:55 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:54 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:51 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:49 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:39 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm your read on brad just doesn't feel real to me, matt
I've gathered that

Dunno what to tell you

I have done my best to explain in detail why I'm not TR him. If you don't buy it, that's your prerogative. I can't spend the entire time trying to make myself appear genuine to u.
every single transcend post about this read reminds me STRONGLY of when transcend got caught in mountain climbing for doubling down on a really bad position irt sleep votes lol

completely fine with voting here and completely fine with voting nanook for doing nothing
I definitely haven't done nothing and you definitely know that I am well within my town range
okay well u know that I pseudo policy people who don't do much day 1 in terms of interactions/giving thoughts

I'm just saying it's never a vote I'll say "no" to really tbh

Yeah yeah I'm aware you always want to kill me

Stop being boring

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:55 pm**

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:53 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:50 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:46 pm who do you scumread besides like brad?
Idk i kinda wanna see how everyone posts today

Ur lock town

I still think mac and Tony are town

Alison was towny initially but i haven't seen her in awhile and want to see where she currently stands.

Ilario is towny, but caught heat. I can't ignore the fact that someone might be on to something on a tough egg to crack.

Wiml's progression through the game looks p towny

Esooa had towny posts
For your TSP read is that because of meta or him individually making towny posts?

Ignoring him defending you, do you have a read on Nook you'd mind sharing?

In poe but as said before, I'm never voting him as long as he's defending me

If he's wolf I can just go after his buddy whatever

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:56 pm**

Also I have plenty of interactions so that doesn't even apply

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:56 pm**

And I've given plenty of thoughts

So basically your read is bad and you should feel bad

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:56 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:54 pm Everyone says they read me as scum if i have a dirty agenda

How do i have a dirty agenda here? How is my doubt on a universal tr indicate a dirty agenda?

you saying "maybe illario is a tough egg to crack" is hella agenda opening yourself up to a self pres push there off nanooks back if u need to

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:57 pm**

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:54 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:51 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:49 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:39 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm your read on brad just doesn't feel real to me, matt
I've gathered that

Dunno what to tell you

I have done my best to explain in detail why I'm not TR him. If you don't buy it, that's your prerogative. I can't spend the entire time trying to make myself appear genuine to u.
every single transcend post about this read reminds me STRONGLY of when transcend got caught in mountain climbing for doubling down on a really bad position irt sleep votes lol

completely fine with voting here and completely fine with voting nanook for doing nothing
yeah he's reminding me a lot of his wolf games
but i've only ever seen him as wolf lmao
I played with Transcend town but it was right as I started FM and was a really dead game. Fwiw I recall him being pretty obvious town and then he died N1.

Well yeah, when i bury the shit out of a frozen wolf, that's grounds for being n1ed

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:57 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:56 pm And I've given plenty of thoughts

So basically your read is bad and you should feel bad

most your thoughts are "x is y" not like actual thought process which is the stuff I care about

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:58 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:57 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:56 pm And I've given plenty of thoughts

So basically your read is bad and you should feel bad
most your thoughts are "x is y" not like actual thought process which is the stuff I care about

"Actual thought process" is super overrated

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:58 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:56 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:54 pm Everyone says they read me as scum if i have a dirty agenda

How do i have a dirty agenda here? How is my doubt on a universal tr indicate a dirty agenda?
you saying "maybe illario is a tough egg to crack" is hella agenda opening yourself up to a self pres push there off nanooks back if u need to

I can see why u think this

But currently the suspicion on him has been supported with zero thoughts so i'm not buying it and i already had a tr on him so i'm not voting him.

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:58 pm**

tbh me wanting to policy nanook is my town tell

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:59 pm**

Thats laughable

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:00 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:58 pm tbh me wanting to policy nanook is my town tell

This is also sort of unironically true lol.

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:00 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:06 pm At least the LC being obv town is just easy pickings.

TSP is probably just town.

Iliario is an easy townread too.

Bruh Why u up at 3am lol, ur Aussie right?

And how am I an easy townread? This is like our first game and I don’t really think anyone’s ever said that to me in just our first game

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:00 pm**

U think that my town play is going to be the same in a game w a bunch of noobs as opposed to a bunch of pros ur horribly mistaken

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:01 pm**

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:00 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:58 pm tbh me wanting to policy nanook is my town tell
This is also sort of unironically true lol.

Good lord

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:01 pm**

Why are you so off the mark this game wiml

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:01 pm**

If anyone is a wolf here there's no way i'm gonna bury them as hard as i did grimdog

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:03 pm**

Not d1 anyways

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:04 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:54 pm Everyone says they read me as scum if i have a dirty agenda

How do i have a dirty agenda here? How is my doubt on a universal tr indicate a dirty agenda?

I don't know why you would, but you're also kind of the last person I'd expect to have the "Deny the Alexa god townread " moment to me if you were town.

Like I get being paranoid, but going to that extent is not where I think you end up going as town.

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:05 pm**

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost4688374

wait was grimdog the origin of that copypasta?

lmao im looking at the game now

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:05 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:58 pm tbh me wanting to policy nanook is my town tell

Me getting banned from the site is mine.

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:06 pm**

Alexa can you explain your, I dunno mindset this game

how do you feel about it

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:07 pm**

Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:22 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:15 pm I skimmed through the opening of ilario's scum game that you linked wiml and it doesn't seem like a dramatic difference to me? Maybe I'll read it in depth more later but yeah not seeing it atm
Tbf it's a lot like alexa said. Like the best comparison is a player like Esooa who is a really capable wolf but half of her town games are just very different and she's easy to find in them?

alexa in particular is a good enough illario reader that she was so (correctly) confident that a red peek on him was fake that she wanted to chop the (real) cop.

I think the one thing that is a tangible non-meta difference is how much he focuses on pushing agendas. One thing I recall noticing in a lot of illario's wolf games is that there's a lack of real depth to his ISOs and he mostly just pushes opportunistic takes. I talked about it earlier but he's a very A to B style wolf.

If he's still in doubt later then I'll go through his wolf games and try to actively towncase why he's town this game since it's a but difficult to do outside of meta. But I'm like 90% confident he is tbh.

Lmao bruh don’t worry about it

He’s a wolf most likely and won’t be around later

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:07 pm**

I don't get why you all expect so much out of me

All i want to do is vibe and out my reads

I out one read that drastically alters thread consensus that I truly feel in my heart (trust me I love towning w brad, i would never want to ml him) may have a chance of being scum and everyone disagrees with me. The sole fact that i'm a contrarian does not mean i'm scum.

If someone has a different read from me i don't auto assume they're scum. Everyone has different perspectives. I don't get why you just assume the same for me and my reads always have to be on par with yours.

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:08 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:06 pm Alexa can you explain your, I dunno mindset this game

how do you feel about it

be more specific?

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:08 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:01 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:00 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:58 pm tbh me wanting to policy nanook is my town tell
This is also sort of unironically true lol.
Good lord

The real read is that Esooa really doesn't like killing plwyers she sees as LHF as a wolf on D1 (as she wants easier miselims to endgame / doesn't bus excessively) so her actually pushing for this is >rand town lol.

She's completely self aware of this though so I'm not putting a huge amount of stock into it outside of a snappy comment.

Posted: **Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:08 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:04 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:54 pm Everyone says they read me as scum if i have a dirty agenda

How do i have a dirty agenda here? How is my doubt on a universal tr indicate a dirty agenda?
I don't know why you would, but you're also kind of the last person I'd expect to have the "Deny the Alexa god townread " moment to me if you were town.

Like I get being paranoid, but going to that extent is not where I think you end up going as town.

Wat

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