The Syndicate

thellama73 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:The main reason I moved my vote was because I didn't want another no lynch. Lynching a civ is more helpful than lynching no one.

Really?

Yes, what do we learn from a no lynch? Nothing

What can we learn from a lynched civ? A lot if we go about it the right way.

No lynches are a baddie's best friend. They kill another player that night, and there's no revealed roles for the civvies to work with.

thellama73 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:If you selected "Dragon" on Day 0, you can get a free piece of information- your choice.

Also, when the heck is Demon coming up already?

We look to be going in the same order as the poll is listed, so Demon is next.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:The main reason I moved my vote was because I didn't want another no lynch. Lynching a civ is more helpful than lynching no one.

Really?

Yes, what do we learn from a no lynch? Nothing

What can we learn from a lynched civ? A lot if we go about it the right way.

No lynches are a baddie's best friend. They kill another player that night, and there's no revealed roles for the civvies to work with.

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you here. I think keeping more civilians alive is better than killing more civilians.

I hate no lynches as well, but with how man civvies we have lynched I don't think we can just use lynches to gain information at this point.

thellama73 wrote:Also, do you know who the ONLY player is who hasn't had his fingerprints on a single civ lynch?

It's Dom.

you caught me!
lock me up for suspecting the right people this game.

zeek wrote:I picked Dragon!

me too!

Can the puzzle be solved without any clues?

I can get a clue, but I'm not sure what info I want. are we solving it in the thread this time? no one is working on it

fingersplints wrote:I can get a clue, but I'm not sure what info I want. are we solving it in the thread this time? no one is working on it

I'm 95% sure that giving your hint in chat would be against the rules as you can't share host info, but iunno.

As it stands, there is one question that would all but tell you exactly where one item is.

I kinda wish i knew what the reward was for this, if it's even worth getting...It's annoying because, at least by the way i was able to put the info together, there's a few option for who had what when.

Not to mention the wanky mechanics, like if someone has a item, are they allow to take it with them? Can someone have more than one item at a time? Is the Island technically related to water?
There's a lot of unknowns.

Okay, so I did my usual speed game read through. Here you go...

Dom - At first he was contrary in a playful way. Next was talked about not having much time/zeal for Mafia right now. Ten he gives SD the stink eye for talking about posting puzzle answers in the thread. He throws out suspicions here and there, but doesn't say anything to back up his suspicions. His voting record: no votes to the civs who have been lynched.

Fingersplints - She's been helpful to other players. She has explaind her suspicions. Nothing pings me about her.

Made - Replaced in, of course. He's invested, talkative which is good, but I feel he's been a bit cocky in feeling like he is completely trusted b/c he was replaced. He is one of my top suspects for this behavior alone.

Metalmarsh - seems level-headed, active and helpful.

Mr Rearranger - I'm not sure what to think after rereading him. He's hard to read...could be affiliated with either IMO.

Niju - She doesn't post much, but her posts seems to be meaningful/helpful. She is hard to read too.

Russ - He seems to have a lot of helpful things to say. He seems to be trying and coming up with suspicions, however I am not sure that his suspicions have much weight. So, I am pinged by that.

Snow Dog - Just overall seems like he is playing a pretty civ game.

Llama - I remember reading that some thought he wasn't posting as much as usual. May be true, but the page numbers seem to suggest he is about average for this game. He had four pages of posts like several other players. Anyway...his posts are helpful and he voices suspicions.

Nothing else to say, unfortunately. Rereading each player didn't really bring about any new pings, but there you go. Maybe you will be encouraged to do your own read through and post on everyone. I know many of us are getting discouraged by lynch results.

So who is bad?

Snow Dog wrote:So who is bad?

Made? Russ?

I'm trying, but this is a difficult game. What do you think SD?

Made wrote:

fingersplints wrote:I can get a clue, but I'm not sure what info I want. are we solving it in the thread this time? no one is working on it

I'm 95% sure that giving your hint in chat would be against the rules as you can't share host info, but iunno.

As it stands, there is one question that would all but tell you exactly where one item is.

I kinda wish i knew what the reward was for this, if it's even worth getting...It's annoying because, at least by the way i was able to put the info together, there's a few option for who had what when.

I didn't say I was going to share it was just curious if we were going to work on it together. I doubt I could do it on my own. but I ran out of time to try anyways ;(

so, it's a bit weird the lynch yesterday. it went from a tie between Russ and Dom to Liz. I think that we should look at who started/subtly pushed the Liz suspicion. We're they saving either of those guys?

And like I said yesterday, SOMEONE is winning hyrule rupees. One of these guys who has been working hard on these puzzles has to be bad. I'be been pretty lame at earning rupees, and I haven't kept track of who has possibly earned what.

fingersplints wrote:so, it's a bit weird the lynch yesterday. it went from a tie between Russ and Dom to Liz. I think that we should look at who started/subtly pushed the Liz suspicion. We're they saving either of those guys?

I know I don't have room to talk after missing that lynch, but this is what I think as well. It seems very weird how that went down.

thellama73 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:so, it's a bit weird the lynch yesterday. it went from a tie between Russ and Dom to Liz. I think that we should look at who started/subtly pushed the Liz suspicion. We're they saving either of those guys?

I know I don't have room to talk after missing that lynch, but this is what I think as well. It seems very weird how that went down.

I think if we do this, we're going to get even more civvie killed.

Made wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:so, it's a bit weird the lynch yesterday. it went from a tie between Russ and Dom to Liz. I think that we should look at who started/subtly pushed the Liz suspicion. We're they saving either of those guys?

I know I don't have room to talk after missing that lynch, but this is what I think as well. It seems very weird how that went down.

I think if we do this, we're going to get even more civvie killed.

Tell me your top suspect, Made, and I will do a careful reread.

thellama73 wrote:

Made wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:so, it's a bit weird the lynch yesterday. it went from a tie between Russ and Dom to Liz. I think that we should look at who started/subtly pushed the Liz suspicion. We're they saving either of those guys?

I know I don't have room to talk after missing that lynch, but this is what I think as well. It seems very weird how that went down.

I think if we do this, we're going to get even more civvie killed.

Tell me your top suspect, Made, and I will do a careful reread.

If MR then not MM. If MM then not MR or Russ.
Iffy on you.
Iffy on snow
iffy on splints

I'd Start with MR personaly tho.

Made wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Made wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:so, it's a bit weird the lynch yesterday. it went from a tie between Russ and Dom to Liz. I think that we should look at who started/subtly pushed the Liz suspicion. We're they saving either of those guys?

I know I don't have room to talk after missing that lynch, but this is what I think as well. It seems very weird how that went down.

I think if we do this, we're going to get even more civvie killed.

Tell me your top suspect, Made, and I will do a careful reread.

If MR then not MM. If MM then not MR or Russ.
Iffy on you.
Iffy on snow
iffy on splints

Thanks. That's not confusing at all.

I did a read of MR yesterday and I don't trust him at all. I'll check out MM tomorrow before the vote.

Imo, the key is the courage force, the last lynch, and the cross word

Made wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Made wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:so, it's a bit weird the lynch yesterday. it went from a tie between Russ and Dom to Liz. I think that we should look at who started/subtly pushed the Liz suspicion. We're they saving either of those guys?

I know I don't have room to talk after missing that lynch, but this is what I think as well. It seems very weird how that went down.

I think if we do this, we're going to get even more civvie killed.

Tell me your top suspect, Made, and I will do a careful reread.

If MR then not MM. If MM then not MR or Russ.
Iffy on you.
Iffy on snow
iffy on splints

Your top suspect is the first person who voted for Liz?

I didn't get the Triforce of Courage, so and also

keep in mind this is an analysis dump, not an info dump. All i'm working off is hunches and weird correlating behavior to make my guesses. Particularly look at reason for action, not necessarily the actions themselves.

linki- no? i didn't say that? I just have a codependant idea of day 5 went down, It depends on MM and you, basically. Honestly I am leaning towards you, but Dom could be intresting....Iunno still can't read that mofo...

Best way to go is probably MR then (assuming mafia) Snow. if Mr isn't mafia, then MM.

The Old Man of the Dragon Labyrinth wrote this down on his scroll:

White dragon / Parapa / Trophy
Red dragon / Maze Island / Candle
Blue dragon / Midoro / Raft
Yellow dragon / Island / Letter
Black dragon / Three-Eye-Rock / Hammer
Green dragon/ Ocean / Boots

“This looks right to me,” he said. “For each correct connection, you will win one rupee, for a maximum of eighteen. If you feel I’ve made a mistake, PM the Host!”

Who failed to kill anyone?

Poll ended at Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:01 pm

Dom
0
No votes

Elohcin
1
Russtifinko (3)
8%

fingersplints
0
No votes

LizKeen
4
Mister Rearranger (4), nijuukyugou (6), Snow Dog (11), Metalmarsh89 (12)
33%

Made
0
No votes

Metalmarsh89
0
No votes

Mister Rearranger
2
LizKeen (9), Made (10)
17%

nijuukyugou
0
No votes

Russtifinko
2
Dom (5), Elohcin (8)
17%

Snow Dog
0
No votes

thellama73
0
No votes

The Triforce of Music (The Host, the Mod, the Dead)
3
Epignosis (1), zeek (2), S~V~S (7)
25%


Total votes : 12

I would lean towards MM. 99% sure that is where I'm voting tomorrow if I'm still alive.

I realize I'm not in the spot where anyone should be listening to me right now, but I can't explain myself any better. I'll leave it at that until tomorrow because I don't want to get mouthy in fear of dying either. I also have no fear of dying since it will be a relief.

linki: I'm also in agreement with you about Snow. I still firmly believe you're good.


linki. Voting Marsh now.

ebwop: There's no poll, nevermind...

Mister Rearranger wrote:I would lean towards MM. 99% sure that is where I'm voting tomorrow if I'm still alive.

I realize I'm not in the spot where anyone should be listening to me right now, but I can't explain myself any better. I'll leave it at that until tomorrow because I don't want to get mouthy in fear of dying either. I also have no fear of dying since it will be a relief.

linki: I'm also in agreement with you about Snow. I still firmly believe you're good.


linki. Voting Marsh now.

Voting MR n- erm as soon as the poll appears.

Also, I got red dragon but didn't submit it

Made wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:I would lean towards MM. 99% sure that is where I'm voting tomorrow if I'm still alive.

I realize I'm not in the spot where anyone should be listening to me right now, but I can't explain myself any better. I'll leave it at that until tomorrow because I don't want to get mouthy in fear of dying either. I also have no fear of dying since it will be a relief.

linki: I'm also in agreement with you about Snow. I still firmly believe you're good.


linki. Voting Marsh now.

Voting MR n- erm as soon as the poll appears.

Likewise. I'm gonna take a nap now, but I'll be back to chat later.

RIP Dom. so that Liz lynch clearly wasn't to distract from him? Russ then? seems pretty silly to kill Dom since he was taking heat. So was it actually Russ or did hyrule want me to think it was Russ :/
I also don't feel great about MM and MR.

could all 3 be bad? do you think they are all going to push for each other now for a bit of civvie cred? it's either that or I am seriously wrong about someone else.. Maybe Elo :/

Made wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:I would lean towards MM. 99% sure that is where I'm voting tomorrow if I'm still alive.

I realize I'm not in the spot where anyone should be listening to me right now, but I can't explain myself any better. I'll leave it at that until tomorrow because I don't want to get mouthy in fear of dying either. I also have no fear of dying since it will be a relief.

linki: I'm also in agreement with you about Snow. I still firmly believe you're good.


linki. Voting Marsh now.

Voting MR n- erm as soon as the poll appears.

It's there now, sorry 'bout my premature vote.

I think I might understand your vote, Made, and urge others to think about it as well.

It should be noted that Ganon is still alive, and everyone who originally won piece of the triforce still has their piece.

RIP Dom. Seems I was right to not suspect you.

Made wrote:It should be noted that Ganon is still alive, and everyone who originally won piece of the triforce still has their piece.

Except the dead ones.

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Made wrote:It should be noted that Ganon is still alive, and everyone who originally won piece of the triforce still has their piece.

Except the dead ones.

Nope, If there were any dead ones, the piece would be put up for competition to be won again.

The civ position is precarious. This game is ready to be lost. One more wrong lynch could be terminal.

Made wrote:It should be noted that Ganon is still alive, and everyone who originally won piece of the triforce still has their piece.

Why would people think Ganon is not alive?

Snow Dog wrote:The civ position is precarious. This game is ready to be lost. One more wrong lynch could be terminal.

It's not as lost as it might seem. It all depends on how many guardians vs. underlings have been night killed. I can't imagine baddie having all of the triforce piece, but even if all that's true and guardians are dead after having all of those things, they need to kill ganon, meaning we have time before things are lost lost. (inb4 Indy wins...)

linki- No reason, Just felt it was worth noting. It's lonely playing without BTSC

Made wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Made wrote:It should be noted that Ganon is still alive, and everyone who originally won piece of the triforce still has their piece.

Except the dead ones.

Nope, If there were any dead ones, the piece would be put up for competition to be won again.

You believe this to be universally true?

linki: lol

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Made wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Made wrote:It should be noted that Ganon is still alive, and everyone who originally won piece of the triforce still has their piece.

Except the dead ones.

Nope, If there were any dead ones, the piece would be put up for competition to be won again.

You believe this to be universally true?

linki: lol

Epignosis wrote: If you perish, your Triforce can be won by someone else.

yes

Made wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:The civ position is precarious. This game is ready to be lost. One more wrong lynch could be terminal.

It's not as lost as it might seem. It all depends on how many guardians vs. underlings have been night killed. I can't imagine baddie having all of the triforce piece, but even if all that's true and guardians are dead after having all of those things, they need to kill ganon, meaning we have time before things are lost lost. (inb4 Indy wins...)

linki- No reason, Just felt it was worth noting. It's lonely playing without BTSC

Really? I'm feeling a bit down and fatalist about this game, so that isn't helping. And i have no idea who to vote for. My record is appalling. I have no confidence anymore. We haven't lynched a baddie even by accident.

Yikes. Sorry, busy couple of days. RIP Liz and Dom As for my Liz vote, as I'd said before, I was a bit pinged with her sabie vote explanation to "get it over with," among other things, but at that time I was after Russ for weird behavior. I had since recanted my suspicion of Russ yesterday and Liz had again pinged me with her reluctance to solve the puzzle in-thread. Clearly, those were the wrong reasons.

And now, I don't know what to think. Re-read time, I suppose.

Linki @Made - How are you so sure of these things you are saying? Did I miss something?