Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 2 - Of Jugulars and Carnage
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:57 pm
What do you think is the single most compelling point against Dyslexicon?
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I'll state the obvious. You're one of the few active voters who is still up in the air.Sloonei wrote:I'll take somebody over nobody unless that somebody is me or someone I am 100% certain is town.insertnamehere wrote:QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:
Would you rather Dyslexicon be lynched, or no one be lynched?
I agree. I am trying very hard to figure out where my vote should go, but I'm feeling very scatterbrained right now.insertnamehere wrote:I'll state the obvious. You're one of the few active voters who is still up in the air.Sloonei wrote:I'll take somebody over nobody unless that somebody is me or someone I am 100% certain is town.insertnamehere wrote:QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:
Would you rather Dyslexicon be lynched, or no one be lynched?
I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.
If I vote for Dys, Would you be cool with me vigilanting you if he comes up town?insertnamehere wrote:Wish Scotty was still around. Still not clear on his stance with Dys.
Silver Lantern, have you read my case that I asked you to read? Is there a universe where you see yourself voting for Dys today? How can I make that reality into our reality?
His "slip" gambit failed to produce anything of real value, making it a pointless anti-civilian bit of frippery.Sloonei wrote:What do you think is the single most compelling point against Dyslexicon?
Do you think if I'm wrong about Dys, I must be bad?Silver Lantern wrote:If I vote for Dys, Would you be cool with me vigilanting you if he comes up town?insertnamehere wrote:Wish Scotty was still around. Still not clear on his stance with Dys.
Silver Lantern, have you read my case that I asked you to read? Is there a universe where you see yourself voting for Dys today? How can I make that reality into our reality?
It boggles my mind how you people have no proble "learning something" by whittling down town #s, but yet asking someone to share a night result is like kissing a leper...insertnamehere wrote: I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.
Or is this a patented Silver Lantern Vig Joke⢠?insertnamehere wrote:Do you think if I'm wrong about Dys, I must be bad?Silver Lantern wrote:If I vote for Dys, Would you be cool with me vigilanting you if he comes up town?insertnamehere wrote:Wish Scotty was still around. Still not clear on his stance with Dys.
Silver Lantern, have you read my case that I asked you to read? Is there a universe where you see yourself voting for Dys today? How can I make that reality into our reality?
What about all the people who mislynched Sig? Why didn't you vigilante them?
Are you convinced Dys is town?Silver Lantern wrote:It boggles my mind how you people have no proble "learning something" by whittling down town #s, but yet asking someone to share a night result is like kissing a leper...insertnamehere wrote: I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.
I don't see this as a reason to suspect him. Like he has said, he's not responsible for the responses of others. Where I do see room to suspect him is in the lack of direction he exhibited himself in producing results, and at times he seems to have shrugged off the idea that he should have done more with it.insertnamehere wrote:His "slip" gambit failed to produce anything of real value, making it a pointless anti-civilian bit of frippery.Sloonei wrote:What do you think is the single most compelling point against Dyslexicon?
These three kind of tie in for me. I know you covered it all in your ISO but I did not fully grasp all of your points at the time. I thought the neutral player observation had some merit and was intriguing, but on his "inconsistent" reads, like I said earlier, I never fault a person for changing their mind. I think that is a different thing than being inconsistent. Can you demonstrate to me how he's been inconsistent, as opposed to simply changing his mind?2nd most compelling point: His aggressive pursuit of people with neutral demeanors.
3rd most compelling point: His inconsistent reads on people.
4th most compelling point: His buddying up with percieved civ "power-players" like Golden.
I wouldn't recommend voted outside of those already on the poll. Decent cases have been made for everyone currently on it.Elohcin wrote:Quin, who should I vote for?
*buzzer*insertnamehere wrote:Do you think if I'm wrong about Dys, I must be bad?Silver Lantern wrote:If I vote for Dys, Would you be cool with me vigilanting you if he comes up town?insertnamehere wrote:Wish Scotty was still around. Still not clear on his stance with Dys.
Silver Lantern, have you read my case that I asked you to read? Is there a universe where you see yourself voting for Dys today? How can I make that reality into our reality?
What about all the people who mislynched Sig? Why didn't you vigilante them?
I made a summary of this point in my own points, have a look at it.Sloonei wrote:I don't see this as a reason to suspect him. Like he has said, he's not responsible for the responses of others. Where I do see room to suspect him is in the lack of direction he exhibited himself in producing results, and at times he seems to have shrugged off the idea that he should have done more with it.insertnamehere wrote:His "slip" gambit failed to produce anything of real value, making it a pointless anti-civilian bit of frippery.Sloonei wrote:What do you think is the single most compelling point against Dyslexicon?
These three kind of tie in for me. I know you covered it all in your ISO but I did not fully grasp all of your points at the time. I thought the neutral player observation had some merit and was intriguing, but on his "inconsistent" reads, like I said earlier, I never fault a person for changing their mind. I think that is a different thing than being inconsistent. Can you demonstrate to me how he's been inconsistent, as opposed to simply changing his mind?2nd most compelling point: His aggressive pursuit of people with neutral demeanors.
3rd most compelling point: His inconsistent reads on people.
4th most compelling point: His buddying up with percieved civ "power-players" like Golden.
And for the 4th point, I'd have to ask how again his behavior towards these players reads as "buddying" rather than simple townie cooperation?
Only a Sith deals in absolutes, mothertrucker.Silver Lantern wrote:*buzzer*insertnamehere wrote:Do you think if I'm wrong about Dys, I must be bad?Silver Lantern wrote:If I vote for Dys, Would you be cool with me vigilanting you if he comes up town?insertnamehere wrote:Wish Scotty was still around. Still not clear on his stance with Dys.
Silver Lantern, have you read my case that I asked you to read? Is there a universe where you see yourself voting for Dys today? How can I make that reality into our reality?
What about all the people who mislynched Sig? Why didn't you vigilante them?
Not the confident townie answer I was hoping for. The right answer is, "I'm positive Dys is scum so I don't have any concern over you even having to consider if you'll vig me." So if you're not positive why are you trying to push his lynch?
P.S. Wigly was on Sig's lynch train.
Do you generally just not vote when you aren't certain about a lynch candidate?Silver Lantern wrote:*buzzer*insertnamehere wrote:Do you think if I'm wrong about Dys, I must be bad?Silver Lantern wrote:If I vote for Dys, Would you be cool with me vigilanting you if he comes up town?insertnamehere wrote:Wish Scotty was still around. Still not clear on his stance with Dys.
Silver Lantern, have you read my case that I asked you to read? Is there a universe where you see yourself voting for Dys today? How can I make that reality into our reality?
What about all the people who mislynched Sig? Why didn't you vigilante them?
Not the confident townie answer I was hoping for. The right answer is, "I'm positive Dys is scum so I don't have any concern over you even having to consider if you'll vig me." So if you're not positive why are you trying to push his lynch?
P.S. Wigly was on Sig's lynch train.
where?Quin wrote:I made a summary of this point in my own points, have a look at it.Sloonei wrote:I don't see this as a reason to suspect him. Like he has said, he's not responsible for the responses of others. Where I do see room to suspect him is in the lack of direction he exhibited himself in producing results, and at times he seems to have shrugged off the idea that he should have done more with it.insertnamehere wrote:His "slip" gambit failed to produce anything of real value, making it a pointless anti-civilian bit of frippery.Sloonei wrote:What do you think is the single most compelling point against Dyslexicon?
These three kind of tie in for me. I know you covered it all in your ISO but I did not fully grasp all of your points at the time. I thought the neutral player observation had some merit and was intriguing, but on his "inconsistent" reads, like I said earlier, I never fault a person for changing their mind. I think that is a different thing than being inconsistent. Can you demonstrate to me how he's been inconsistent, as opposed to simply changing his mind?2nd most compelling point: His aggressive pursuit of people with neutral demeanors.
3rd most compelling point: His inconsistent reads on people.
4th most compelling point: His buddying up with percieved civ "power-players" like Golden.
And for the 4th point, I'd have to ask how again his behavior towards these players reads as "buddying" rather than simple townie cooperation?
In my posts, you lazy sod. Hang onSloonei wrote:where?Quin wrote:I made a summary of this point in my own points, have a look at it.Sloonei wrote:I don't see this as a reason to suspect him. Like he has said, he's not responsible for the responses of others. Where I do see room to suspect him is in the lack of direction he exhibited himself in producing results, and at times he seems to have shrugged off the idea that he should have done more with it.insertnamehere wrote:His "slip" gambit failed to produce anything of real value, making it a pointless anti-civilian bit of frippery.Sloonei wrote:What do you think is the single most compelling point against Dyslexicon?
These three kind of tie in for me. I know you covered it all in your ISO but I did not fully grasp all of your points at the time. I thought the neutral player observation had some merit and was intriguing, but on his "inconsistent" reads, like I said earlier, I never fault a person for changing their mind. I think that is a different thing than being inconsistent. Can you demonstrate to me how he's been inconsistent, as opposed to simply changing his mind?2nd most compelling point: His aggressive pursuit of people with neutral demeanors.
3rd most compelling point: His inconsistent reads on people.
4th most compelling point: His buddying up with percieved civ "power-players" like Golden.
And for the 4th point, I'd have to ask how again his behavior towards these players reads as "buddying" rather than simple townie cooperation?
Quin wrote:INH brings up an interesting point in that Dizzy had put Nacho down as her only null read. That seems like a rookie error, which she apparently is not, and given Dizzy's presence in the thread, I think it's likely she'd have spoken out against a Nacho kill for that specific reason.
I agree with INH for what he said about her fluctuating read on 3J. I'm not bothered by drops and rises of one or two tiers on a rainbow list, but to describe it as a roller coaster is correct. My interpretation of 3J's standing in the respective posts looks like this
1 A slight scum, for agreeing with me about the Sorsha discussion and voting 3J
2 Says he has no real scum-reads
3 A rainbow list where 3J is listed as his 2nd top town read. Justification is that he couldn't find anything suspicious about him
4 Slight scum, a cold read.
I generally don't vote when I am suspicious of the person leading the lynch train...Quin wrote:Do you generally just not vote when you aren't certain about a lynch candidate?Silver Lantern wrote:*buzzer*insertnamehere wrote:Do you think if I'm wrong about Dys, I must be bad?Silver Lantern wrote:If I vote for Dys, Would you be cool with me vigilanting you if he comes up town?insertnamehere wrote:Wish Scotty was still around. Still not clear on his stance with Dys.
Silver Lantern, have you read my case that I asked you to read? Is there a universe where you see yourself voting for Dys today? How can I make that reality into our reality?
What about all the people who mislynched Sig? Why didn't you vigilante them?
Not the confident townie answer I was hoping for. The right answer is, "I'm positive Dys is scum so I don't have any concern over you even having to consider if you'll vig me." So if you're not positive why are you trying to push his lynch?
P.S. Wigly was on Sig's lynch train.
You seem to at least half-way agree with the first two, and Quin has a response to the third.Sloonei wrote:I don't see this as a reason to suspect him. Like he has said, he's not responsible for the responses of others. Where I do see room to suspect him is in the lack of direction he exhibited himself in producing results, and at times he seems to have shrugged off the idea that he should have done more with it.insertnamehere wrote:His "slip" gambit failed to produce anything of real value, making it a pointless anti-civilian bit of frippery.Sloonei wrote:What do you think is the single most compelling point against Dyslexicon?
These three kind of tie in for me. I know you covered it all in your ISO but I did not fully grasp all of your points at the time. I thought the neutral player observation had some merit and was intriguing, but on his "inconsistent" reads, like I said earlier, I never fault a person for changing their mind. I think that is a different thing than being inconsistent. Can you demonstrate to me how he's been inconsistent, as opposed to simply changing his mind?2nd most compelling point: His aggressive pursuit of people with neutral demeanors.
3rd most compelling point: His inconsistent reads on people.
4th most compelling point: His buddying up with percieved civ "power-players" like Golden.
And for the 4th point, I'd have to ask how again his behavior towards these players reads as "buddying" rather than simple townie cooperation?
I have no problems with Sith, as long as they're town.insertnamehere wrote: Only a Sith deals in absolutes, mothertrucker.
Are you even gonna read my case, or are you just gonna assume it's BS because I wrote it?Silver Lantern wrote:I generally don't vote when I am suspicious of the person leading the lynch train...Quin wrote:Do you generally just not vote when you aren't certain about a lynch candidate?Silver Lantern wrote:*buzzer*insertnamehere wrote:Do you think if I'm wrong about Dys, I must be bad?Silver Lantern wrote:If I vote for Dys, Would you be cool with me vigilanting you if he comes up town?insertnamehere wrote:Wish Scotty was still around. Still not clear on his stance with Dys.
Silver Lantern, have you read my case that I asked you to read? Is there a universe where you see yourself voting for Dys today? How can I make that reality into our reality?
What about all the people who mislynched Sig? Why didn't you vigilante them?
Not the confident townie answer I was hoping for. The right answer is, "I'm positive Dys is scum so I don't have any concern over you even having to consider if you'll vig me." So if you're not positive why are you trying to push his lynch?
P.S. Wigly was on Sig's lynch train.
I still don't see evidence that this is an inconsistent thought process rather than a person simply changing their mind a couple of times. What would be the baddie motivation to change it up like that? Or do you believe Dyslexicon simply lost track of his own read on the most vocal player in the game? That would be a genuine slip.Quin wrote:Quin wrote:INH brings up an interesting point in that Dizzy had put Nacho down as her only null read. That seems like a rookie error, which she apparently is not, and given Dizzy's presence in the thread, I think it's likely she'd have spoken out against a Nacho kill for that specific reason.
I agree with INH for what he said about her fluctuating read on 3J. I'm not bothered by drops and rises of one or two tiers on a rainbow list, but to describe it as a roller coaster is correct. My interpretation of 3J's standing in the respective posts looks like this
1 A slight scum, for agreeing with me about the Sorsha discussion and voting 3J
2 Says he has no real scum-reads
3 A rainbow list where 3J is listed as his 2nd top town read. Justification is that he couldn't find anything suspicious about him
4 Slight scum, a cold read.
Follow my lead.Sloonei wrote:I agree. I am trying very hard to figure out where my vote should go, but I'm feeling very scatterbrained right now.insertnamehere wrote:I'll state the obvious. You're one of the few active voters who is still up in the air.Sloonei wrote:I'll take somebody over nobody unless that somebody is me or someone I am 100% certain is town.insertnamehere wrote:QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:
Would you rather Dyslexicon be lynched, or no one be lynched?
I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.
Where did he do this?insertnamehere wrote:You seem to at least half-way agree with the first two, and Quin has a response to the third.Sloonei wrote:I don't see this as a reason to suspect him. Like he has said, he's not responsible for the responses of others. Where I do see room to suspect him is in the lack of direction he exhibited himself in producing results, and at times he seems to have shrugged off the idea that he should have done more with it.insertnamehere wrote:His "slip" gambit failed to produce anything of real value, making it a pointless anti-civilian bit of frippery.Sloonei wrote:What do you think is the single most compelling point against Dyslexicon?
These three kind of tie in for me. I know you covered it all in your ISO but I did not fully grasp all of your points at the time. I thought the neutral player observation had some merit and was intriguing, but on his "inconsistent" reads, like I said earlier, I never fault a person for changing their mind. I think that is a different thing than being inconsistent. Can you demonstrate to me how he's been inconsistent, as opposed to simply changing his mind?2nd most compelling point: His aggressive pursuit of people with neutral demeanors.
3rd most compelling point: His inconsistent reads on people.
4th most compelling point: His buddying up with percieved civ "power-players" like Golden.
And for the 4th point, I'd have to ask how again his behavior towards these players reads as "buddying" rather than simple townie cooperation?
RE: question on point 4
Stuff like voting for me immediately after Golden did, and trying to get Golden to publicly townread him. I feel like he's tried to cast his lot in with the hyperactive players not out of cooperation, but self-preservation.
No, he's town.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Follow my lead.Sloonei wrote:I agree. I am trying very hard to figure out where my vote should go, but I'm feeling very scatterbrained right now.insertnamehere wrote:I'll state the obvious. You're one of the few active voters who is still up in the air.Sloonei wrote:I'll take somebody over nobody unless that somebody is me or someone I am 100% certain is town.insertnamehere wrote:QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:
Would you rather Dyslexicon be lynched, or no one be lynched?
I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.
Vote Lynch Metalmarsh89
no dale cooper appreciation, huh?Silver Lantern wrote:I have no problems with Sith, as long as they're town.insertnamehere wrote: Only a Sith deals in absolutes, mothertrucker.
BTW, I am probably going to Vig you just cause your avatar is so damn annoying... Just giving you fair notice.
Let's try again.Sloonei wrote:No, he's town.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Follow my lead.Sloonei wrote:I agree. I am trying very hard to figure out where my vote should go, but I'm feeling very scatterbrained right now.insertnamehere wrote:I'll state the obvious. You're one of the few active voters who is still up in the air.Sloonei wrote:I'll take somebody over nobody unless that somebody is me or someone I am 100% certain is town.insertnamehere wrote:QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:
Would you rather Dyslexicon be lynched, or no one be lynched?
I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.
Vote Lynch Metalmarsh89
Dyslexicon wrote:It's not for how you interact with me (actually thinking about it, I don't think we've interacted much? Hi.), but more so in your analysis of votes and wagons and how people are treating me, it seems like you assume that I'm town. Both with the reactions to my fakeslip and in regards to the wagon on me. I don't know what this means, it's just a feeling I had and I wrote it out.Golden wrote:Not sure exactly what you're seeing or how you mean this, but I tend to act like everyone is town. Even when I suspect someone on one hand, I don't want to ignore their perspective on things on the other, in case I'm wrong. I think I'm much better at figuring out who is town than who is bad, so this also aids my hunting approach.Dyslexicon wrote:Sometimes I feel that Golden acts like I'm confirmed town.
SINCE WHEN IS MAGIC BAGGINS A TOWN MOVEDyslexicon wrote:Not caught up on the last bits. I think Scotty has been softly role hinting from D1, which I find more unlikely to come from scum. Though I'm not sure why he's doing it at all. I suspect Marmot more than Scotty, he seems aloof and none of the interactions I've had with him makes me feel good, and I remember him differently from the game I played here a while ago. Nut pushing on him also makes me feel better about my read.Sloonei wrote:Do you have any more specific thoughts regarding Scotty and Metalmarsh?
OH THANK GODSilver Lantern wrote:You're gonna fall for that ploy? Wow, I take back anything good I ever said about you...Sloonei wrote:unvote Scotty
I am currently voting for nobody. Since he suggested in his latest post that he can prove his towniness with role shenanigans, I'm willing to give him a chance to do that.
THANK YOUQuin wrote:I would prefer that Eloh be replaced, rather than lynched. Voting for her feels like a cop out at this point.
NOinsertnamehere wrote:QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:
Would you rather Dyslexicon be lynched, or no one be lynched?
NO!insertnamehere wrote:Yo, Elochin, I see you reading the thread.
Vote Dyslexicon.
Pretty please.
DANGIT YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO REVEAL THAT YOU COULD DO THAT, EVEN JOKINGLYSilver Lantern wrote:If I vote for Dys, Would you be cool with me vigilanting you if he comes up town?insertnamehere wrote:Wish Scotty was still around. Still not clear on his stance with Dys.
Silver Lantern, have you read my case that I asked you to read? Is there a universe where you see yourself voting for Dys today? How can I make that reality into our reality?
THANK YOU AS WELLSilver Lantern wrote:It boggles my mind how you people have no proble "learning something" by whittling down town #s, but yet asking someone to share a night result is like kissing a leper...insertnamehere wrote: I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.
CRAPMetalmarsh89 wrote:Follow my lead.Sloonei wrote:I agree. I am trying very hard to figure out where my vote should go, but I'm feeling very scatterbrained right now.insertnamehere wrote:I'll state the obvious. You're one of the few active voters who is still up in the air.Sloonei wrote:I'll take somebody over nobody unless that somebody is me or someone I am 100% certain is town.insertnamehere wrote:QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:
Would you rather Dyslexicon be lynched, or no one be lynched?
I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.
Vote Lynch Metalmarsh89
I think it's inconsistent. I'm willing to dismiss his initial vote for 3J as part of his 'I don't have any suspects' thing, because it's not the only instance where he's contradicted himself. But putting someone as a top town read because they couldn't find anything suspicious about them and then scum reading them justified only be it being a cold read feels inconsistent.Sloonei wrote:I still don't see evidence that this is an inconsistent thought process rather than a person simply changing their mind a couple of times. What would be the baddie motivation to change it up like that? Or do you believe Dyslexicon simply lost track of his own read on the most vocal player in the game? That would be a genuine slip.Quin wrote:Quin wrote:INH brings up an interesting point in that Dizzy had put Nacho down as her only null read. That seems like a rookie error, which she apparently is not, and given Dizzy's presence in the thread, I think it's likely she'd have spoken out against a Nacho kill for that specific reason.
I agree with INH for what he said about her fluctuating read on 3J. I'm not bothered by drops and rises of one or two tiers on a rainbow list, but to describe it as a roller coaster is correct. My interpretation of 3J's standing in the respective posts looks like this
1 A slight scum, for agreeing with me about the Sorsha discussion and voting 3J
2 Says he has no real scum-reads
3 A rainbow list where 3J is listed as his 2nd top town read. Justification is that he couldn't find anything suspicious about him
4 Slight scum, a cold read.
If you could vote for anyone not named Metalmarsh89 or insertnamehere, who would you vote for?nutella wrote:INH and Quin are making me sad. Dys is the player I trust the most currently (or on about equal footing with Silver and Golden). I believe SO strongly that Dys is civ, I'd say even more so given the recent discussion -- especially their replies to Quin. I was thinking "amen" to everything Dys said in response to Quin's utterly ridiculous and nuance-lacking accusation that they haven't provided reads/reactions to the fakeslip when they so clearly have, and has generally acted very town.
I'm also disappointed in you, Sloonei. I'm glad you backed off of Scotty, since he's been hinting all game and that's part of why I believe he's probably town. But I thought you had said a couple pages back that you'd also be willing to vote for INH or Marmot, and now you don't seem to be considering that at all. I wish you would consider switching to Marmot, especially so close to the deadline when we're not even hitting the soft lynch threshold and he's our best shot.
lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?
No one would vote for themselves that close to the deadline if they were scum?nutella wrote: lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?
I never said I'd vote for INH and marmot. I ISO'd both of them because it was suggested that I do and I came out reading them both as town.nutella wrote:INH and Quin are making me sad. Dys is the player I trust the most currently (or on about equal footing with Silver and Golden). I believe SO strongly that Dys is civ, I'd say even more so given the recent discussion -- especially their replies to Quin. I was thinking "amen" to everything Dys said in response to Quin's utterly ridiculous and nuance-lacking accusation that they haven't provided reads/reactions to the fakeslip when they so clearly have, and has generally acted very town.
I'm also disappointed in you, Sloonei. I'm glad you backed off of Scotty, since he's been hinting all game and that's part of why I believe he's probably town. But I thought you had said a couple pages back that you'd also be willing to vote for INH or Marmot, and now you don't seem to be considering that at all. I wish you would consider switching to Marmot, especially so close to the deadline when we're not even hitting the soft lynch threshold and he's our best shot.
lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?
Tbh, this is the one point that I keep waffling on that could convince me that Dys could be bad, and to me it would entail that JJJ is his teammate. But I'd only be willing to entertain that possibility after determining Marmot's and/or INH's alignment.Sloonei wrote:I still don't see evidence that this is an inconsistent thought process rather than a person simply changing their mind a couple of times. What would be the baddie motivation to change it up like that? Or do you believe Dyslexicon simply lost track of his own read on the most vocal player in the game? That would be a genuine slip.Quin wrote:Quin wrote:INH brings up an interesting point in that Dizzy had put Nacho down as her only null read. That seems like a rookie error, which she apparently is not, and given Dizzy's presence in the thread, I think it's likely she'd have spoken out against a Nacho kill for that specific reason.
I agree with INH for what he said about her fluctuating read on 3J. I'm not bothered by drops and rises of one or two tiers on a rainbow list, but to describe it as a roller coaster is correct. My interpretation of 3J's standing in the respective posts looks like this
1 A slight scum, for agreeing with me about the Sorsha discussion and voting 3J
2 Says he has no real scum-reads
3 A rainbow list where 3J is listed as his 2nd top town read. Justification is that he couldn't find anything suspicious about him
4 Slight scum, a cold read.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Let's try again.Sloonei wrote:No, he's town.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Follow my lead.Sloonei wrote:I agree. I am trying very hard to figure out where my vote should go, but I'm feeling very scatterbrained right now.insertnamehere wrote:I'll state the obvious. You're one of the few active voters who is still up in the air.Sloonei wrote:I'll take somebody over nobody unless that somebody is me or someone I am 100% certain is town.insertnamehere wrote:QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:
Would you rather Dyslexicon be lynched, or no one be lynched?
I know you aren't voting MM. I'm trying to convince you to vote Dyslexicon. If we want to actually learn something from this day, we need to get something going here.
Vote Lynch Metalmarsh89
Unvote
Vote Lynch Dyslexicon
No person would, no. But a marmot might.Silver Lantern wrote:No one would vote for themselves that close to the deadline if they were scum?nutella wrote: lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?
Why not?Silver Lantern wrote:No one would vote for themselves that close to the deadline if they were scum?nutella wrote: lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?
Clearly a joke, but I'm inclined to agree with you. Also makes INH look better because if they're scum, they somehow aren't worried about buddying. Like, it's all too bold and brazen to be scum.Silver Lantern wrote:No one would vote for themselves that close to the deadline if they were scum?nutella wrote: lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?
and who would that be?Quin wrote:I wouldn't recommend voted outside of those already on the poll. Decent cases have been made for everyone currently on it.Elohcin wrote:Quin, who should I vote for?
I am looking specifically at your reasons for voting marmot. Should I be?nutella wrote:INH and Quin are making me sad. Dys is the player I trust the most currently (or on about equal footing with Silver and Golden). I believe SO strongly that Dys is civ, I'd say even more so given the recent discussion -- especially their replies to Quin. I was thinking "amen" to everything Dys said in response to Quin's utterly ridiculous and nuance-lacking accusation that they haven't provided reads/reactions to the fakeslip when they so clearly have, and has generally acted very town.
If you think this then you'll surely show me where this is the case, because she didn't.
I'm also disappointed in you, Sloonei. I'm glad you backed off of Scotty, since he's been hinting all game and that's part of why I believe he's probably town. But I thought you had said a couple pages back that you'd also be willing to vote for INH or Marmot, and now you don't seem to be considering that at all. I wish you would consider switching to Marmot, especially so close to the deadline when we're not even hitting the soft lynch threshold and he's our best shot.
lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?
What about if we just go ahead and lynch Dys, then you can figure out me and Marmot's alignment?nutella wrote:Tbh, this is the one point that I keep waffling on that could convince me that Dys could be bad, and to me it would entail that JJJ is his teammate. But I'd only be willing to entertain that possibility after determining Marmot's and/or INH's alignment.Sloonei wrote:I still don't see evidence that this is an inconsistent thought process rather than a person simply changing their mind a couple of times. What would be the baddie motivation to change it up like that? Or do you believe Dyslexicon simply lost track of his own read on the most vocal player in the game? That would be a genuine slip.Quin wrote:Quin wrote:INH brings up an interesting point in that Dizzy had put Nacho down as her only null read. That seems like a rookie error, which she apparently is not, and given Dizzy's presence in the thread, I think it's likely she'd have spoken out against a Nacho kill for that specific reason.
I agree with INH for what he said about her fluctuating read on 3J. I'm not bothered by drops and rises of one or two tiers on a rainbow list, but to describe it as a roller coaster is correct. My interpretation of 3J's standing in the respective posts looks like this
1 A slight scum, for agreeing with me about the Sorsha discussion and voting 3J
2 Says he has no real scum-reads
3 A rainbow list where 3J is listed as his 2nd top town read. Justification is that he couldn't find anything suspicious about him
4 Slight scum, a cold read.
What is I think you're all three town ATMinsertnamehere wrote: What about if we just go ahead and lynch Dys, then you can figure out me and Marmot's alignment?
I won't tell you that. I'd rather you make a decision on your own.Elohcin wrote:and who would that be?Quin wrote:I wouldn't recommend voted outside of those already on the poll. Decent cases have been made for everyone currently on it.Elohcin wrote:Quin, who should I vote for?
speedchuck wrote:Clearly a joke, but I'm inclined to agree with you. Also makes INH look better because if they're scum, they somehow aren't worried about buddying. Like, it's all too bold and brazen to be scum.Silver Lantern wrote:No one would vote for themselves that close to the deadline if they were scum?nutella wrote: lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?
Still hate the way INH tries to pursue lynches.
I don't understand.speedchuck wrote:What is I think you're all three town ATMinsertnamehere wrote: What about if we just go ahead and lynch Dys, then you can figure out me and Marmot's alignment?
Why would a marmot or INH lynch solidify your feelings on Dys and 3J?nutella wrote:Tbh, this is the one point that I keep waffling on that could convince me that Dys could be bad, and to me it would entail that JJJ is his teammate. But I'd only be willing to entertain that possibility after determining Marmot's and/or INH's alignment.Sloonei wrote:I still don't see evidence that this is an inconsistent thought process rather than a person simply changing their mind a couple of times. What would be the baddie motivation to change it up like that? Or do you believe Dyslexicon simply lost track of his own read on the most vocal player in the game? That would be a genuine slip.Quin wrote:Quin wrote:INH brings up an interesting point in that Dizzy had put Nacho down as her only null read. That seems like a rookie error, which she apparently is not, and given Dizzy's presence in the thread, I think it's likely she'd have spoken out against a Nacho kill for that specific reason.
I agree with INH for what he said about her fluctuating read on 3J. I'm not bothered by drops and rises of one or two tiers on a rainbow list, but to describe it as a roller coaster is correct. My interpretation of 3J's standing in the respective posts looks like this
1 A slight scum, for agreeing with me about the Sorsha discussion and voting 3J
2 Says he has no real scum-reads
3 A rainbow list where 3J is listed as his 2nd top town read. Justification is that he couldn't find anything suspicious about him
4 Slight scum, a cold read.