The Syndicate

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:51 am

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:07 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:02 am

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:57 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:56 pm I was restricted to 1 word per post during Day 2.

why do you think that was?

I noticed you were trying to get him to talk on day 1 of the chaotic phase, I see now.

Sorry sorry, got mixed up with names. This was for Kylemii

which part of this is for me? is there any sort of context for this

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:21 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:20 am Once upon a time I was pretty okay at catching baddies.

i'd love to know what that's like

You know how you get all confident in a case and everyone says that's convincing and they try to defend themselves and you just go "shut up. Why you so bad?" After that you don't have to say "It's his own fault for not being a better townie."

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:27 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:31 amKyle and Dunya presented actual cases.

oh my god I was worried no one actually knew what I was trying to say, it seemed like you were the only person to respond to any of them and all you said was "disgusting"

I understood every word and was frustrated for you.

Kyle: Elohamon used feint. Eloh Amin used hold back.
Glor: I don't understand.
Kyle: Kylemon used frustration. Gloramon wants to learn inner focus. Delete an older move to learn inner focus?
Lap: It's like he's trying to talk to us.
Kyle: FFS! I'm frustrated and I want you to focus cause Eloh is feighting and holding back cause she's bad.
Epi: Kyle has been modkilled.

Oh look autocorrect messes up real AND fake Pokémon names.

Also

Kyle: Wilgy, do you want to delete an older move to learn "scumhunting?"
Wilgy: Yes


Well why didn't you?

Now that that's over...

I proposed that we lynched a non-poster since anyone who could actually post couldn't properly defend themselves.

I also didn't understand the case on sig, before or after players were smitten with a variety of curses.

So I voted for [mention]Marmot[/mention].

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:36 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:31 am

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:17 am Well I'm not quite sure what I have to defend in this situation? If it was because I was clueless as to what has been happening, I was. Mortal kombat theme isn't even a game I've played once, ever so that alone was challenging, I figured it was part of the game to act according to everbody's erratic behaviours, what do I make of that?! I did notice at the very end Nutellas posts were givign some sort of clues, I figured that out on last day. Quin was just as confusing giving oriental menu prices, ignored him. Tony kept repeating iron man.. what?! Glorfindel was the only one I had to side with & go along with what is happening. I noticed also how I think (?) Speedchuck or was it jack who gave out "warning signs" whenever I had placed a vote as in I shouldn't have. That's all I got really. I placed vote on Simons because he looked very suspicious placing a vote on already a outnumbered lynch vote, with no reason but bandwagon. @j@Jackofhearts2005

Quin was rating posts. He told Nutella.

I was calling out disgusting scummy behavior.

LC called Tony out for voting for Glor when everybody has him as town.

Kyle and Dunya presented actual cases.

Two cursed players weighed in on everybody else.

I don't mean to be rude but...did you not catch any of that?

Some of it. Didn't pay much attention to every posts cause I thought it was just shit post, to be fair I wanted out until glorflindel came along.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:50 am

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:40 am I'm not overly concerned with lapluie not understanding what was going on yesterday. To my knowledge this is her first experience with insanifiers. I'm not surprised that she'd fluster when half the thread showed up speaking in tongues, regardless of her alignment.

What I figured and why I didn’t target there. This could have been cleared up if less people were completely debilitated.

On Glor: I’m trusting the prevailing meta read on Glor being town, but I really don’t want to.

And just why IS that, my friend?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:11 am Kyle: Elohamon used feint. Eloh Amin used hold back.
Glor: I don't understand.
Kyle: Kylemon used frustration. Gloramon wants to learn inner focus. Delete an older move to learn inner focus?
Lap: It's like he's trying to talk to us.
Kyle: FFS! I'm frustrated and I want you to focus cause Eloh is feighting and holding back cause she's bad.
Epi: Kyle has been modkilled.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:14 am Also

Kyle: Wilgy, do you want to delete an older move to learn "scumhunting?"
Wilgy: Yes


Well why didn't you?

Yessss!!!!! Exactly. It was so hard to express questions. it was even harder to explain the directions of actions. It also sucks that every single pokemon narrator quote has an exclamation point at the end of it. made it hard to express the correct tone sometimes.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:29 am

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:51 am

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:07 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:02 am

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:57 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:56 pm I was restricted to 1 word per post during Day 2.

why do you think that was?

I noticed you were trying to get him to talk on day 1 of the chaotic phase, I see now.

Sorry sorry, got mixed up with names. This was for Kylemii

which part of this is for me? is there any sort of context for this

You wantin nova to post

Oh, right.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:41 am Kylechu wants to battle.
@Novaselinevereon used stockpile!
it's not very effective.
Novaselineon grew to level 6!
Novaselineon wants to learn Spit Up... but Novaselineon already knows 4 moves! Should a move be forgotten to make space for Spit Up?

That actually still stands. This post came after an iso of Nova. I noticed they hadn't taken a lot of stances or given a lot of reads over the course of the game. I didn't even realize they didn't post anything during day 2.

Also "novaselineon" wasn't a very creative name in retrospect. I kinda phoned that one in.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:31 am

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:17 am Well I'm not quite sure what I have to defend in this situation? If it was because I was clueless as to what has been happening, I was. Mortal kombat theme isn't even a game I've played once, ever so that alone was challenging, I figured it was part of the game to act according to everbody's erratic behaviours, what do I make of that?! I did notice at the very end Nutellas posts were givign some sort of clues, I figured that out on last day. Quin was just as confusing giving oriental menu prices, ignored him. Tony kept repeating iron man.. what?! Glorfindel was the only one I had to side with & go along with what is happening. I noticed also how I think (?) Speedchuck or was it jack who gave out "warning signs" whenever I had placed a vote as in I shouldn't have. That's all I got really. I placed vote on Simons because he looked very suspicious placing a vote on already a outnumbered lynch vote, with no reason but bandwagon. @j@Jackofhearts2005

Quin was rating posts. He told Nutella.

I was calling out disgusting scummy behavior.

LC called Tony out for voting for Glor when everybody has him as town.

Kyle and Dunya presented actual cases.

Two cursed players weighed in on everybody else.

I don't mean to be rude but...did you not catch any of that?

dunya did and yet she is your third suspect? Maybe we're not friends anymore.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:38 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:55 pm Were lapluie and Glor the only 2 unaffected ?

rabbit8 you received your role before end or day. Did it have any strange day 2 posting stipulation ?

Pretty sure Eloh didn't have one.

She had to be a mom scolding her kids.

I don't have time to catch up more sorry. I will later after work. Lots of driving today.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:56 am

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:21 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:20 am Once upon a time I was pretty okay at catching baddies.

i'd love to know what that's like

You know how you get all confident in a case and everyone says that's convincing and -

no?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:43 pm Let’s play the build a scum team game. I’ll go first.

Dunya
Eloh
Wilgy
Nova
Long Con


Someone give me better.

And I would ask Speed about Nova but apparently he’s about to answer.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:58 pm @Elohcin

@DrWilgy

Please name one thing you have done to help catch any baddies.

I haven't been getting in the way of myself, this if how I help. I know a couple things about myself as a civ in a big game:

1) I am no good at keeping up in big games (jobs)
Why did I sign up, you ask? As a favor to my sweet husband who put so much time into the game and wanted it to get started.
2) Early in a big game, I cannot speak freely of my thoughts of a player without sounding wishy-washy because I will go back and forth on everyone. This will get me lynched and then all the civs are like, "man, we mis-lynched her again?!"

I know me. And I know that as a civ in a big game, I need to stay out of the way and go along for the ride until we are down to about 12 players. THAT is how I help my civ team. Once we get down to a manageable number for my brain to keep organized, I can come out guns blazing on the baddies. If we get there, and I am not contributing, you can lynch me. Fair enough?

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:33 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:38 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:55 pm Were lapluie and Glor the only 2 unaffected ?

rabbit8 you received your role before end or day. Did it have any strange day 2 posting stipulation ?

Pretty sure Eloh didn't have one.

She had to be a mom scolding her kids.

The joke is that Eloh is already this.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:07 pm

Eloh became a new ping for me. The recent vocaroo game was a virtual hellscape for participation. There were fewer posts obviously but many of the posts took up to 5 minutes to read. It presented a challenge for participation that put a lot of people in a position of lagging behind, some days I had to sit listening to other players speak for 2 or 3 hours before I could post anything relevant. Eloh maintained a position of being one of the most active players in that game despite all that and had frequently Meanwhile in this game, which has honestly a pretty standard length mafia game other than the the 16 page long day 0 and the dumpster fire that we all just experienced.

I can listen and do other things at the same time. I cannot read and do other things at the same time.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:31 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:58 pm @Elohcin

@DrWilgy

Please name one thing you have done to help catch any baddies.

I haven't been getting in the way of myself, this if how I help. I know a couple things about myself as a civ in a big game:

1) I am no good at keeping up in big games (jobs)
Why did I sign up, you ask? As a favor to my sweet husband who put so much time into the game and wanted it to get started.
2) Early in a big game, I cannot speak freely of my thoughts of a player without sounding wishy-washy because I will go back and forth on everyone. This will get me lynched and then all the civs are like, "man, we mis-lynched her again?!"

I know me. And I know that as a civ in a big game, I need to stay out of the way and go along for the ride until we are down to about 12 players. THAT is how I help my civ team. Once we get down to a manageable number for my brain to keep organized, I can come out guns blazing on the baddies. If we get there, and I am not contributing, you can lynch me. Fair enough?

I do not expect it will be up to me at that point.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:07 pm

the fact that her communication during chaos day was limited despite her relatively easy curse doesn't help things much either. I don't see the same elohcin drive as I saw in vocaroo mafia. It's a strange juxtaposition.

funny, in vocaroo mafia I was said that I could be bad BECAUSE I was posting a lot. That's the thing with mafia games....you can get called out for acting one way or get called out for acting the opposite.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:02 am

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:07 pm Everyone is being quite crazy with their votes right now. I don't like this lack of seriousness in the beginning of big games like this. Everyone thinks they can just play around and vote here or there and it won't matter much. Dudes (and dudettes), if we try hard enough, we might be able to get a scum on Day 1.

I'd like people to weigh in on this post.

This implies Eloh is ready to go, excited to play and down to catch some scum....but then she never tries.

Did she get busy? Or is she faking?

I had to scold you all like you were children. What else was I supposed to say that pertained to mafia? We are not down to 12 yet.

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:21 am
I wanna ask @novaselinenever if this mafia experience has been difficult to grasp given that he's also new. I'd imagine so.

It really has been. The set-up/format coupled with the fact that it's hard for me to keep track of people's posts throughout the phase, has made it really hard to come up with reads or even follow the game.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:40 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:07 pm

the fact that her communication during chaos day was limited despite her relatively easy curse doesn't help things much either. I don't see the same elohcin drive as I saw in vocaroo mafia. It's a strange juxtaposition.

funny, in vocaroo mafia I was said that I could be bad BECAUSE I was posting a lot. That's the thing with mafia games....you can get called out for acting one way or get called out for acting the opposite.

I can understand why Kyle feels that way, though I don't agree. I get the impression that you just like or perhaps even prefer the Vocaroo format, because in both of those games you were a highly active civilian. In these text games you often aren't.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:49 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:02 am

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:07 pm Everyone is being quite crazy with their votes right now. I don't like this lack of seriousness in the beginning of big games like this. Everyone thinks they can just play around and vote here or there and it won't matter much. Dudes (and dudettes), if we try hard enough, we might be able to get a scum on Day 1.

I'd like people to weigh in on this post.

This implies Eloh is ready to go, excited to play and down to catch some scum....but then she never tries.

Did she get busy? Or is she faking?

I had to scold you all like you were children. What else was I supposed to say that pertained to mafia? We are not down to 12 yet.

I'm sticking to my civilian soul read on Elohcin. I think she'd at least try to fake it if she was evil.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:03 am

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:21 am
I wanna ask @novaselinenever if this mafia experience has been difficult to grasp given that he's also new. I'd imagine so.

It really has been. The set-up/format coupled with the fact that it's hard for me to keep track of people's posts throughout the phase, has made it really hard to come up with reads or even follow the game.

That much I can understand. It's a busy thread with a lot of people in it. Nonetheless you must have absorbed something to this point, right? If you had a gun to your head and were forced to name one suspect, who would it be?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:43 pm Let’s play the build a scum team game. I’ll go first.

Dunya
Eloh
Wilgy
Nova
Long Con

Someone give me better.

And I would ask Speed about Nova but apparently he’s about to answer.

I found this exercise more difficult than I expected to. With a gun to my head:

DrWilgy
Marmot
Dave
novaselinenever
rabbit8

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]

Who is bad with Wilgy?

What do you think of Tony and Dunya at this point?

I thought the Sig case was convincing but he wasn't my first choice and I can see the points against Dunya for making that case at that time given how it turned out, esp pushing votes away from Wilgy and Tony.

Probably should have stuck to my guns on Wilgy but didn't want Tony lynched over Sig for voting Glor. I like my vote to matter. Tony doesn't really know Glor so that's a weak sauce way to go out. If Tony is town, all complaints about a Sig train being too easy and taking advantage of how hard it is to defend yourself with certain curses apply double to Tony's situation. (Of course, we now know Sig was town and still do not know about Tony.)

Were you able to understand my answer on Tony's meta for handling me just fine? He tends to be pretty slow about it. Lots of people sail the "never trust Jack" boat on the realms and lots of people man the USS "something undefined about Jack's posts bother me and make me suspicious of him" or a schooner called "latch onto a specific phrase Jack used" but Tony is a landlubber. He knows I can be helpful and tends to let me prove or hang myself as the game goes on while attempting to gain my trust regardless of his alignment. Both tend to be a slow burn.

Tldr: Tony's attitude towards me is appreciated, expected and probably NAI.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:48 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:03 am

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:21 am
I wanna ask @novaselinenever if this mafia experience has been difficult to grasp given that he's also new. I'd imagine so.

It really has been. The set-up/format coupled with the fact that it's hard for me to keep track of people's posts throughout the phase, has made it really hard to come up with reads or even follow the game.

That much I can understand. It's a busy thread with a lot of people in it. Nonetheless you must have absorbed something to this point, right? If you had a gun to your head and were forced to name one suspect, who would it be?

TonyStarkPrime, Dunya and Made are the 3 people that aren't leaning towards neutral for me. I see them as potential scums.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:58 am @JaggedJimmyJay

Who is bad with Wilgy?

What do you think of Tony and Dunya at this point?

See my prior post for a GTH guess.

I have some gripes with Tony. Those gripes feel uninspired. He doesn't know Glorfindel like many of us do and it's understandable that he wouldn't be enthusiastic about handing him the key to the city without any background on him. All else aside he did work hard to make the best of his curse.

dunya thoughts to follow:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:58 amI thought the Sig case was convincing but he wasn't my first choice and I can see the points against Dunya for making that case at that time given how it turned out, esp pushing votes away from Wilgy and Tony.

I think she looked civilian when jumped into the thread and rapped her heart out. There are easier ways to get a mislynch in a widely-spread tally like the one we had pre-sig case. I think it's more likely that she pushed that case because she believed in it than because she had some kind of nefarious objective to take advantage of an opportunity. That smells like tinfoil to me, and not the sort that tends to amount to something.

Calling dunya mafia is most easily accomplished by gluing her to one of the other lynch candidates of the day, like Wilgy. That's a weak premise, IMO.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:02 am TonyStarkPrime, Dunya and Made are the 3 people that aren't leaning towards neutral for me. I see them as potential scums.

I appreciate the response. Can you share at least briefly something about each of those three that rubs you the wrong way?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:48 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:11 am Kyle: Elohamon used feint. Eloh Amin used hold back.
Glor: I don't understand.
Kyle: Kylemon used frustration. Gloramon wants to learn inner focus. Delete an older move to learn inner focus?
Lap: It's like he's trying to talk to us.
Kyle: FFS! I'm frustrated and I want you to focus cause Eloh is feighting and holding back cause she's bad.
Epi: Kyle has been modkilled.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:14 am Also

Kyle: Wilgy, do you want to delete an older move to learn "scumhunting?"
Wilgy: Yes


Well why didn't you?

Yessss!!!!! Exactly. It was so hard to express questions. it was even harder to explain the directions of actions. It also sucks that every single pokemon narrator quote has an exclamation point at the end of it. made it hard to express the correct tone sometimes.

Try posting in only Kansas lyrics. I never realized how non-specific their lyrics are. [mention]Epignosis[/mention] next time, make me post in Ayreon lyrics.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:05 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:58 am @JaggedJimmyJay

Who is bad with Wilgy?

What do you think of Tony and Dunya at this point?

See my prior post for a GTH guess.

I have some gripes with Tony. Those gripes feel uninspired. He doesn't know Glorfindel like many of us do and it's understandable that he wouldn't be enthusiastic about handing him the key to the city without any background on him. All else aside he did work hard to make the best of his curse.

dunya thoughts to follow:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:58 amI thought the Sig case was convincing but he wasn't my first choice and I can see the points against Dunya for making that case at that time given how it turned out, esp pushing votes away from Wilgy and Tony.

I think she looked civilian when jumped into the thread and rapped her heart out. There are easier ways to get a mislynch in a widely-spread tally like the one we had pre-sig case. I think it's more likely that she pushed that case because she believed in it than because she had some kind of nefarious objective to take advantage of an opportunity. That smells like tinfoil to me, and not the sort that tends to amount to something.

Calling dunya mafia is most easily accomplished by gluing her to one of the other lynch candidates of the day, like Wilgy. That's a weak premise, IMO.

I like it.

As a civ, she comes out hard and is wrong.

As a scummer, she draws lots of attention (when she could be "catching up" and blend some with the large null/inactive pool esp with a curse) when there was a decent chance of a mislynch anyway between all the curses and the spread.

That feels correct.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:10 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:48 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:11 am Kyle: Elohamon used feint. Eloh Amin used hold back.
Glor: I don't understand.
Kyle: Kylemon used frustration. Gloramon wants to learn inner focus. Delete an older move to learn inner focus?
Lap: It's like he's trying to talk to us.
Kyle: FFS! I'm frustrated and I want you to focus cause Eloh is feighting and holding back cause she's bad.
Epi: Kyle has been modkilled.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:14 am Also

Kyle: Wilgy, do you want to delete an older move to learn "scumhunting?"
Wilgy: Yes


Well why didn't you?

Yessss!!!!! Exactly. It was so hard to express questions. it was even harder to explain the directions of actions. It also sucks that every single pokemon narrator quote has an exclamation point at the end of it. made it hard to express the correct tone sometimes.

Try posting in only Kansas lyrics. I never realized how non-specific their lyrics are. @Epignosis next time, make me post in Ayreon lyrics.

Maybe shorter lines?

Hold on baby hold on.
Carry on.
Same old song.

Tony's call for a full scum team guess can be a productive step forward in the continuing dialogue if numerous players take him up on it.

Icarus Born On Wings Of Steel is a great song but yeah, not a damn useful thing to use in a mafia game.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:39 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:05 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:58 am @JaggedJimmyJay

Who is bad with Wilgy?

What do you think of Tony and Dunya at this point?

See my prior post for a GTH guess.

I have some gripes with Tony. Those gripes feel uninspired. He doesn't know Glorfindel like many of us do and it's understandable that he wouldn't be enthusiastic about handing him the key to the city without any background on him. All else aside he did work hard to make the best of his curse.

dunya thoughts to follow:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:58 amI thought the Sig case was convincing but he wasn't my first choice and I can see the points against Dunya for making that case at that time given how it turned out, esp pushing votes away from Wilgy and Tony.

I think she looked civilian when jumped into the thread and rapped her heart out. There are easier ways to get a mislynch in a widely-spread tally like the one we had pre-sig case. I think it's more likely that she pushed that case because she believed in it than because she had some kind of nefarious objective to take advantage of an opportunity. That smells like tinfoil to me, and not the sort that tends to amount to something.

Calling dunya mafia is most easily accomplished by gluing her to one of the other lynch candidates of the day, like Wilgy. That's a weak premise, IMO.

I like it.

As a civ, she comes out hard and is wrong.

As a scummer, she draws lots of attention (when she could be "catching up" and blend some with the large null/inactive pool esp with a curse) when there was a decent chance of a mislynch anyway between all the curses and the spread.

That feels correct.

On the one hand, she might would think that no one would blame her because of the curses. On the other hand, you're pretty much right here.
I now change my mind. Dunya being scum is contingent on Dr. Wilgy or whoever else was leading at that point in the game being scum. If this was a scum maneuver, it was a save.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:56 am Seen Kansas in concert and they put on a hell of a show. Was going to see them again but one of the band members got sick so instead I got an extra long performance from Jefferson Airplane Jefferson Starship Starship.

I saw them in 2012, during their collegiate symphony tour. Not quite the normal experience, small venue. I was seven rows back. It was amazing.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:51 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:39 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:05 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:58 am @JaggedJimmyJay

Who is bad with Wilgy?

What do you think of Tony and Dunya at this point?

See my prior post for a GTH guess.

I have some gripes with Tony. Those gripes feel uninspired. He doesn't know Glorfindel like many of us do and it's understandable that he wouldn't be enthusiastic about handing him the key to the city without any background on him. All else aside he did work hard to make the best of his curse.

dunya thoughts to follow:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:58 amI thought the Sig case was convincing but he wasn't my first choice and I can see the points against Dunya for making that case at that time given how it turned out, esp pushing votes away from Wilgy and Tony.

I think she looked civilian when jumped into the thread and rapped her heart out. There are easier ways to get a mislynch in a widely-spread tally like the one we had pre-sig case. I think it's more likely that she pushed that case because she believed in it than because she had some kind of nefarious objective to take advantage of an opportunity. That smells like tinfoil to me, and not the sort that tends to amount to something.

Calling dunya mafia is most easily accomplished by gluing her to one of the other lynch candidates of the day, like Wilgy. That's a weak premise, IMO.

I like it.

As a civ, she comes out hard and is wrong.

As a scummer, she draws lots of attention (when she could be "catching up" and blend some with the large null/inactive pool esp with a curse) when there was a decent chance of a mislynch anyway between all the curses and the spread.

That feels correct.

On the one hand, she might would think that no one would blame her because of the curses. On the other hand, you're pretty much right here.
I now change my mind. Dunya being scum is contingent on Dr. Wilgy or whoever else was leading at that point in the game being scum. If this was a scum maneuver, it was a save.

Iirc, Wilgy (Jack, Jimmy...Kyle?) and Tony had 3 votes each (Nova, Speed, Eloh). Quin and Sig we're on BWT.

Unless Tony and Wilgy are both bad, why start a third train? I guess so we ask that question but I don't think they're all three bad.

[mention]Epignosis[/mention]

Could you have post 3 updated with replacements and flips? Thanks.

Gth baddie team, taken into account new discussion on Lap, Eloh, Dunya.


Wilgy
Lap
Simon
Bird (Rabbit now?)
Speed


That last call was painful. I gotta believe someone on the Mac train was bad but I like all of them individually as town. Speed came in 30 from EOD, questioned Kyle's posts about Mac, then voted or kept his vote on Mac anyway.

First things first:



rabbit8, you old bastard, it is DAMN good to see you!

I never know if you'll ever show your face again. Especially after last time on Rev. Welcome back dude!!

And back to Mafia:

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:12 pm I'd like everyone who was cursed to explain what their curse was and why they think they were given that exact curse.

I'd like everyone who wasn't cursed to explain why they think they weren't cursed.

I could only post in pictures, probably because I'm the graphics guy.

lapluie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:51 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:45 pm lapluie is one of my stronger civilian reads at the moment. I think her posts sound quite genuine, and I also doubt she kills one of the only two people she knows on this site (Sloonei and Quin) on Night 1 -- especially not when she had his favor.

thanks! yeah sloonei is the reason why I'm here the first place, him & quin have always made the games more flavourful - favorite mafia players, was quite saddened of his abstinence actually.

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:11 pm Fancy shit. I feel mafia old. Still cant get used to this town and scum shit either.

Brother, I be old school with you. I'm woke though, so I can travel between dimensions.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:34 pm The Sig lynch was bad.
Dunya is bad for starting it.

1. Sig is always wishy-washy
2. Waffley behavior is a textbook EZ suspicion to put on mislynches, when it can really go both ways. Town can be genuinely uncertain as easily as mafia can be nervous
3. Sig couldn't defend easily, and this is a mostly brand-new suspicion. That's the reason I'd rather have gone with a D1 case. Now we're back to square one.
4. Sig's lynch gained momentum too easily. If half the scumteam wasn't on it, I will eat a Kansas CD.

Dunya replaced in, and her first action was to go through the thread, pick the easiest mislynch possible, and drive it home while Sig couldn't defend himself and no better cases could be made. Screw that.

I don't recall voting for sig because he was wishy-washy. Dunya's case was the best thing I could make sense of in that thread, plus it even had an extra flavour of sig buddying me, which I'm most always partial to. I practically tied nutella for being the second voter, seemed like she was mere seconds ahead of me in both the vote and the vote-post. Don't know if that info is relevant to you, but that's how it happened.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:42 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:30 pm Rainbow of the remains

speedchuck
Glorfindel
Quin
lapluie
novaselinenever
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
Rabbit8
Dom
Elohcin
Simon
Dave
Marmot
Made
Long Con
Simon
nutella
dunya
TonyStarkPrime
DrWilgy

linki: Because Epi submitted Kansas to the Syndicate Album of the Week last week, and I revealed that I am a huge Kansas fan. They are in my top 5 bands ever.

Why dunya?

(also nice color scheme)

I don't really like the fleshy tone in the middle. It disrupts the transition from yellow to orange when I wanna see it flow...

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:43 pm Let’s play the build a scum team game. I’ll go first.

Dunya
Eloh
Wilgy
Nova
Long Con


Someone give me better.

Let's name our theoretical baddie teams. Yours can be called 'Low-Hanging Fruit'.

Dom
Made
Marmot
nutella
Simon

It's better because Made made me suspicious before, nutella pings me when she comes after me while I'm being completely frank (acting like her suspicion arises because of how well she knows me, but if she really knew me blah blah), Simon because of his spring-to-action vote on someone I didn't see any particular reason for, with unsatisfying follow-up. And then Dom and Marmot for flavour.

My reasons are given the best I can without going back and re-reading the past-game stuff I discussed, so don't jump down my throat for any inaccuracies; instead gently correct me and I'll go from there.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:02 am

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:07 pm Everyone is being quite crazy with their votes right now. I don't like this lack of seriousness in the beginning of big games like this. Everyone thinks they can just play around and vote here or there and it won't matter much. Dudes (and dudettes), if we try hard enough, we might be able to get a scum on Day 1.

I'd like people to weigh in on this post.

This implies Eloh is ready to go, excited to play and down to catch some scum....but then she never tries.

Did she get busy? Or is she faking?

Different definitions of 'trying', I would say.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:43 am Tony's call for a full scum team guess can be a productive step forward in the continuing dialogue if numerous players take him up on it.

So a GTH read compilation where we limit our number of mafia guesses to 5? Actually, it looks more in depth than that.

I'm in. I had a hard time understanding, putting in, or getting much out of Day 2. I think a refocusing is in order.

Also, Long Con using the word "woke" the way he did just put him on the scum team.

For now, my scum team consists of:

JaggedJimmyJay
JaggedJimmyJay
JaggedJimmyJay
JaggedJimmyJay
JaggedJimmyJay

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:36 pm Also, Long Con using the word "woke" the way he did just put him on the scum team.

That's completely fair.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:41 pm For now, my scum team consists of:

JaggedJimmyJay
JaggedJimmyJay
JaggedJimmyJay
JaggedJimmyJay
JaggedJimmyJay

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:27 pm Marmot, I count four posts among your 31 which I would describe as of the spammy or irrelevant variety. You've been doing things at an atypical rate. Tell me about your level of investment in this game so far.

Just spotted this post while doing some very light ISOs.

I go back and forth between invested and uninvested. I don't have the time I used to to pour into this game, and posting in nothing but quotes but from another game is time consuming.

Why do you call it atypical?

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:58 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:27 pm Marmot, I count four posts among your 31 which I would describe as of the spammy or irrelevant variety. You've been doing things at an atypical rate. Tell me about your level of investment in this game so far.

Just spotted this post while doing some very light ISOs.

I go back and forth between invested and uninvested. I don't have the time I used to to pour into this game, and posting in nothing but quotes but from another game is time consuming.

Why do you call it atypical?

I'm suggesting that you were trying harder than usual. A striking portion of your posts displayed investment and not silliness. I expect more silliness. What gives?