Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:22 pm
In the epi v. Colin exchange, Colin comes out looking scummiest
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but don't you regularly describe yourself as "waffly"? why would you want to willingly subject yourself to the anxiety and stress of playing the vigilante role and having to make a gun to head decision every single night?nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:14 pmyeah, I asked for wyvern or pegasus for mostly flavory reasons, though like it would have been cool to get the vig but I totally don't blame DDL for giving me the weaker of the ones I asked for, as I probably would have done for Wilgy had Tony not come along with a more straightforward requestKylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:10 pmdidn't you also ask for the wyvern though?
lolKylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:27 pmbut don't you regularly describe yourself as "waffly"? why would you want to willingly subject yourself to the anxiety and stress of playing the vigilante role and having to make a gun to head decision every single night?nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:14 pmyeah, I asked for wyvern or pegasus for mostly flavory reasons, though like it would have been cool to get the vig but I totally don't blame DDL for giving me the weaker of the ones I asked for, as I probably would have done for Wilgy had Tony not come along with a more straightforward requestKylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:10 pmdidn't you also ask for the wyvern though?
You didn't ask me but I'll give you my opinion anywayz.colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:27 pm I like that Epi post a lot.
Syndicateers, thoughts on the recent MacDougall/RDW interactions?
I mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
Do you think his exercise, even if pointless, has any potential to do harm? If not, why haven't you given some names?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:27 pm Epignosis, I have no reason to trust you and even less when you refuse to answer my questions. I think you can understand that because you think I'm suspicious for not answering yours, no? Whatever you think my post implies, what I am saying is that I am suspicious of your exercise and of you. And I'm not the only one, so saying that it's manufactured is just plain not true.
I don't see the value in your exercise. The burden of proof is not on me when it comes to changing my mind there, it's on you to show that it's useful to the town. And while, yeah, someone could protect you in the night phases, it's also weird to me that you're openly advertising that you have some scheme that we don't know anything about rolling that would be detrimental to the mafia, because wouldn't they then want to kill you?
Rather good pointColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
I'm a fucking troubadour. I get the luxury of not caring if I'm Night killed.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
No thanks. You're telling me that Epignosis should be broadcasting his intentions, whatever they may be, thus neutralizing their potential, all so he can avoid a night kill which is by the numbers already unlikely?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
The only explanations I can think of is 1. You're town with a bulletproof ability or 2. ScumEpignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:34 pmI'm a fucking troubadour. I get the luxury of not caring if I'm Night killed.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
As I said before, I think it's just a WIFOM rabbit hole and easily manipulated by the mafia to send us in the wrong direction, lynch the wrong people. And I supplied my answer, which was the same as yours, IIRC.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:34 pmDo you think his exercise, even if pointless, has any potential to do harm? If not, why haven't you given some names?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:27 pm Epignosis, I have no reason to trust you and even less when you refuse to answer my questions. I think you can understand that because you think I'm suspicious for not answering yours, no? Whatever you think my post implies, what I am saying is that I am suspicious of your exercise and of you. And I'm not the only one, so saying that it's manufactured is just plain not true.
I don't see the value in your exercise. The burden of proof is not on me when it comes to changing my mind there, it's on you to show that it's useful to the town. And while, yeah, someone could protect you in the night phases, it's also weird to me that you're openly advertising that you have some scheme that we don't know anything about rolling that would be detrimental to the mafia, because wouldn't they then want to kill you?
Epi doesn't have an equal chance of being nightkilled. He has higher change if scum think he has important power.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:36 pmNo thanks. You're telling me that Epignosis should be broadcasting his intentions, whatever they may be, thus neutralizing their potential, all so he can avoid a night kill which is by the numbers already unlikely?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
I hate this reasoning.
Colin I have a hypothetical for you. Let’s say you were chosen as the mafia don. Which four people would you choose as your mafia buddies? This is so we can see the thought process of players as they deal with the question put it in a spreadsheet and look for patterns and where patterns break.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:27 pm Epignosis, I have no reason to trust you and even less when you refuse to answer my questions. I think you can understand that because you think I'm suspicious for not answering yours, no? Whatever you think my post implies, what I am saying is that I am suspicious of your exercise and of you. And I'm not the only one, so saying that it's manufactured is just plain not true.
I don't see the value in your exercise. The burden of proof is not on me when it comes to changing my mind there, it's on you to show that it's useful to the town. And while, yeah, someone could protect you in the night phases, it's also weird to me that you're openly advertising that you have some scheme that we don't know anything about rolling that would be detrimental to the mafia, because wouldn't they then want to kill you?
No. He could say something like, "I think it'd be useful to see what people say." Or he could say "There might be patterns in who's picked." If he has a real strategy here that needs time to pan out, he shouldn't be daring the Mafia to kill him for it by saying he has a "damn good reason" to hide his intentions.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:36 pmNo thanks. You're telling me that Epignosis should be broadcasting his intentions, whatever they may be, thus neutralizing their potential, all so he can avoid a night kill which is by the numbers already unlikely?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
I hate this reasoning.
We've still got plenty of time before D1 ends thoColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:40 pmNo. He could say something like, "I think it'd be useful to see what people say." Or he could say "There might be patterns in who's picked." If he has a real strategy here that needs time to pan out, he shouldn't be daring the Mafia to kill him for it by saying he has a "damn good reason" to hide his intentions.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:36 pmNo thanks. You're telling me that Epignosis should be broadcasting his intentions, whatever they may be, thus neutralizing their potential, all so he can avoid a night kill which is by the numbers already unlikely?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
I hate this reasoning.
hmmmmmm okay. and you enjoyed the vig role before? they were good experiences?
Flip side, at this point it probably looks scummier to give the four names and fold over holding strong.rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:39 pm Surely scum Colin would not be dumb enough to refuse the 4 names
Scum know half of his role already anyway. Now this suspicion demands the specific scenario wherein his unknown power ties into this exercise in some way -- a wild ass guess based on nothing. Even if he is the most threatening player and has a scary role, there are still 18 other civilians who can be killed. None of them have a majority-probability of being killed. It's math. If I am being asked to believe that a civilian should give a damn about that on Day 1, particularly in this context with an exercise being drawn asking only for four names, I say -- bullhickey. Horseshit. That's made up.rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:37 pmEpi doesn't have an equal chance of being nightkilled. He has higher change if scum think he has important power.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:36 pmNo thanks. You're telling me that Epignosis should be broadcasting his intentions, whatever they may be, thus neutralizing their potential, all so he can avoid a night kill which is by the numbers already unlikely?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
I hate this reasoning.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:39 pm Mac used post silly shit at Skyler
Skyler became confused
He hurt himself in his confusion
Skyler fainted
ColonialBob go!
ColonialBob used tunnel
But it failed
weren't you the one saying that townies should never be afraid to die?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:34 pmRather good pointColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
Absolute crap.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:40 pmNo. He could say something like, "I think it'd be useful to see what people say." Or he could say "There might be patterns in who's picked." If he has a real strategy here that needs time to pan out, he shouldn't be daring the Mafia to kill him for it by saying he has a "damn good reason" to hide his intentions.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:36 pmNo thanks. You're telling me that Epignosis should be broadcasting his intentions, whatever they may be, thus neutralizing their potential, all so he can avoid a night kill which is by the numbers already unlikely?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
I hate this reasoning.
ColonialBob used eyeroll emojicolonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:42 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:39 pm Mac used post silly shit at Skyler
Skyler became confused
He hurt himself in his confusion
Skyler fainted
ColonialBob go!
ColonialBob used tunnel
But it failed![]()
yeah, I honestly don't remember when the last time was but I have some recollection of doing decently well with them.
Skyler scumslipped. I know his meta. He scumslips all the time.Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:42 pmweren't you the one saying that townies should never be afraid to die?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:34 pmRather good pointColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
If they are top suspect of town then they should go willingly to death to clear things up after saying their peace, but why make yourself target of scumKylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:42 pmweren't you the one saying that townies should never be afraid to die?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:34 pmRather good pointColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
In Fiddler on the Roof, I deliberately played like shit early on and tried to bait the mafia into killing other people. Why? Because I was a protector and someone who had the chance to gain BTSC with three people, including the role checker.rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:37 pmEpi doesn't have an equal chance of being nightkilled. He has higher change if scum think he has important power.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:36 pmNo thanks. You're telling me that Epignosis should be broadcasting his intentions, whatever they may be, thus neutralizing their potential, all so he can avoid a night kill which is by the numbers already unlikely?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
I hate this reasoning.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:45 pmSkyler scumslipped. I know his meta. He scumslips all the time.Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:42 pmweren't you the one saying that townies should never be afraid to die?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:34 pmRather good pointColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
It's impossible for me to scum slip because I'm not scumMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:45 pmSkyler scumslipped. I know his meta. He scumslips all the time.Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:42 pmweren't you the one saying that townies should never be afraid to die?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:34 pmRather good pointColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
This was just banter because I was reminiscing about the good old days of playing mafia on RYM.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:53 pmDwarf loses a point for saying things just to say things.Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:04 amThere was no particular judgment made here. It's their M.O. every game basically.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:44 amHey Dwarf, what do these observations mean to you as it pertains to those two players' alignments?Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:17 am Just like on RYM, rundontwalk is posting like a madman aka #ballstothewall. And dunya can't wait to start digging around in everyone's post histories.
Also, this will be my last post for Sunday probably.
It was bait to attract Mafia. You chowed down on the bait.nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:46 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:45 pmSkyler scumslipped. I know his meta. He scumslips all the time.Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:42 pmweren't you the one saying that townies should never be afraid to die?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:34 pmRather good pointColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?explain
.....but... it's usually bad to waste a lynch on a civ. scum kills are all going to be civs, so isn't it better to get nightkilled than waste numbers on a mislynch?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:45 pmIf they are top suspect of town then they should go willingly to death to clear things up after saying their peace, but why make yourself target of scumKylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:42 pmweren't you the one saying that townies should never be afraid to die?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:34 pmRather good pointColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
In the context of not fighting a lynch it's more likely to help town save time if you're too controversial and need to get out
Hush Skylerrundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:46 pmIt's impossible for me to scum slip because I'm not scumMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:45 pmSkyler scumslipped. I know his meta. He scumslips all the time.Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:42 pmweren't you the one saying that townies should never be afraid to die?rundontwalk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:34 pmRather good pointColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:32 pmI mean, why say this? Whether they know what you're doing or not, you are advertising yourself as a threat to them, saying that it's their best interests to stop you from figuring this stuff out. Why would a townie be so confident they wouldn't be nightkilled for that sentence alone?
nah bro I legitimately don't get why he's suspicious. like what is the baddie motive for his argument hereMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:46 pm Colin is a civ. Nutella is Mafia so knows it and is distancing from the lynch. It is known.