Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:59 am
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I agree Jack.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:23 amThis post is yucky.wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:56 amI never said he's town but I'm fairly certain he's not mafia. Refer to my post where I said I will address this later on. That doesn't mean we should ignore him, but I'm less worried about him for now. He ISNT off the table yet for me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:49 amOkay junior. Don't come in here and try to shit all over my work without explaining why all of a sudden you have such a great town read on him that you want to completely take him off the table. Explain why.
I'm much more sure of Colin being scum as I've mentioned him with more certainty than his buddies.
[VOTE: COLINISCOOL] aubergine
“Don’t bother with Sloonei. I didn’t say Sloonei is good. Sloonei is good. Plz Refer to previous post that doesn’t actually explain anything. I’m not saying to ignore Sloonei except that I did. Suddenly, Sloonei is back on the table for unstated reasons.”
are you sure? I voted at like 2:57Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:53 amNope, yours was well earlier.Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:51 ammy vote came later i think, i voted near the end of the phaseSloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:27 amLooking at the poll, I see that Kyle also voted for Luna, but I can't see what the order was. Was kyle's vote before or after this? If Kyle was already there then I don't quite object to the strategy as strongly as I otherwise would. A 2-person train is not nothing in this poll, even with <10 minutes to go. Regardless, I am not a big fan of this vote. @ColinIsCool if you were to have ranked the three main wagons (nova, sig, epi) in order of preference at the time of this vote, how would that list have looked?
I read GoC and had you solidly town the entire time. This is different.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:32 amHaving just played a game where I faced accusations of “controlling the narrative” more than a few times: no.Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:23 amThis is how I'm feeling too.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:53 pmI don't really want to rank them, that seems like pointless busy work to me. 6) Golden killed Epi and wants to control the narrative that ensuesGolden wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:33 pm Theories
1) Baddies include one or both of dunya and wolbre
2) Baddies want us to lynch one of dunya and wolbre
3) Baddies saw Epi's performance in GoC and are intimidated by him generally
4) Baddies just want to screw with us
5) Baddies don't know what is up
Anyone want to rank these theories?
That said I have some concerns about Golden that I want to flesh out when I have the energy for it.
website ate my dang post :[
i've read close to nothing. i probably won't be able to catch up until i start going through ISO's which i don't see myself doing any time soon.
Exactly what I’m seeing.Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:15 am To expound on Sloonei, I think his posts from Day 1 suggest he's treading lightly around Golden, a player who is dangerous when he's on either alignment. Golden voted for Sloonei a few times so far this game, Sloonei responded to those votes. But Sloonei's only other mentions of Golden were talking to other players who suspected Golden.
If Sloonei is civilian, I don't see reason for him to behave this way with Golden, nor would I expect him to. And if he does have concerns, I'd like to hear them, because I don't see evidence of these concerns yet.
Oooh, I almost forgot, Sloonei also disagreed with Long Con's and my unwillingness to play Golden's game.
I dunno, there's a consistent distraction from Golden that Sloonei's putting up.
You clearly missed what I was hinting at. Mac saw it and referenced itJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:23 amThis post is yucky.wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:56 amI never said he's town but I'm fairly certain he's not mafia. Refer to my post where I said I will address this later on. That doesn't mean we should ignore him, but I'm less worried about him for now. He ISNT off the table yet for me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:49 amOkay junior. Don't come in here and try to shit all over my work without explaining why all of a sudden you have such a great town read on him that you want to completely take him off the table. Explain why.
I'm much more sure of Colin being scum as I've mentioned him with more certainty than his buddies.
[VOTE: COLINISCOOL] aubergine
“Don’t bother with Sloonei. I didn’t say Sloonei is good. Sloonei is good. Plz Refer to previous post that doesn’t actually explain anything. I’m not saying to ignore Sloonei except that I did. Suddenly, Sloonei is back on the table for unstated reasons.”
Lol at this making my nightMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:32 am Mild possibility: Epignosis could have been the target of a redirect of some sort, and not the original target, kinda like Scotty playing darts. He missed the board entirely and nailed the poor bartender instead, but it all worked out because the bartender was working too many hours and needed the time off.
I'll check this when my lectures are done in the late morning today (12ish hours) and give some opinionGolden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:11 am Sloonei
Colin
LC
Luna (changed read for me)
These four read quite team-compatible to me. Lots of links between their behaviours that could make sense. I’ll elaborate when I get time but generally pressed for time on long explanations right now - but anyone else who feels like grabbing the ball, I think this is a good set of four to examine in the collective.
Vague. Vague. Vague.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:58 pmEnh. Not a tell, more like a true reflections of my feelings based on past experience. I still think you're bad.Dom wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:52 pmWhat's the purpose of my post?
Why, I'll share if you ask.
Until recently I had a neutral read on you. Maybe slightly bad, but neutral.
Then you repeated your desire to stay out of the sig/Dom interaction. That's the exact same thing you repeated ad nauseum in GOC about Epi and myself when you were bad.
My eye on him seems to be bothering him a lot, don't you agree?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:01 am Anyone with suspicion of Colin, pile votes onto him now. I have an idea.
first of all, I placed a vote in the first 24 hrs of Day 1 on Turnip Head. I overestimated how much time I had on Tuesday and didn't have any time at all, between work, going to the airport, flying out, etc. I hate the game of "what you have done" past the event because honestly, I don't know what I would have done but since I townread sig and now after reviewing nova....he seems to be more in line with civ nova I saw on NF and Epi was acting like Epi does on Day 1. He always has to do something unusual, and his final vote on me and parking his ass with the discord argument seemed like such an Epi thing to do. I'm pretty sure he was taking notes of how every person reacted to that and would have come in Day 2 with a fresh pair of eyes. I can't say I would have voted for any of them, but I suppose out of the three it may have been nova because it's easy to fake activity after being called out for being lurker mode as scum and active as town.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:49 pm dunya - Off wagon vote for Turnip Head. Interesting. I know she has had to take some time out of the game but I can't recall a time I saw Dunya's vote end up on someone nobody else voted for.
This just is not true and I loathe that you are bringing down my entire scum meta to it when I have done that exactly twice in my entire mafia playing time. Once in Loneliness and Cheese on RYM (a strategic move on my part), and once in FE (because the whole team decided to buss each other). Saying that scum dunya always busses her teammates is incorrect and I refuse to let that stick on me. I have a reputation to maintain, ok?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:25 am Having looked back on dunya I see she had suspicions earlier in the day of players I came to suspect later. I am curious about it because my assumption is that a scum dunya would cast dispersions on her teammates to scoop up credit later but at the same time it isn't too dissimilar to why I pushed her incorrect lynch in Mortal Kombat. I give her some town points for this observation.
He did say he ultimately gave you town points.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:05 amThis just is not true and I loathe that you are bringing down my entire scum meta to it when I have done that exactly twice in my entire mafia playing time. Once in Loneliness and Cheese on RYM (a strategic move on my part), and once in FE (because the whole team decided to buss each other). Saying that scum dunya always busses her teammates is incorrect and I refuse to let that stick on me. I have a reputation to maintain, ok?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:25 am Having looked back on dunya I see she had suspicions earlier in the day of players I came to suspect later. I am curious about it because my assumption is that a scum dunya would cast dispersions on her teammates to scoop up credit later but at the same time it isn't too dissimilar to why I pushed her incorrect lynch in Mortal Kombat. I give her some town points for this observation.
Yeah very strange that she took a post in which I was giving her credit and got angry about it. Doubt a scum would do that right? Scum would just be happy to have gotten the town points and let that one go through to the keeper?Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:49 amHe did say he ultimately gave you town points.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:05 amThis just is not true and I loathe that you are bringing down my entire scum meta to it when I have done that exactly twice in my entire mafia playing time. Once in Loneliness and Cheese on RYM (a strategic move on my part), and once in FE (because the whole team decided to buss each other). Saying that scum dunya always busses her teammates is incorrect and I refuse to let that stick on me. I have a reputation to maintain, ok?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:25 am Having looked back on dunya I see she had suspicions earlier in the day of players I came to suspect later. I am curious about it because my assumption is that a scum dunya would cast dispersions on her teammates to scoop up credit later but at the same time it isn't too dissimilar to why I pushed her incorrect lynch in Mortal Kombat. I give her some town points for this observation.
This is an interesting self-observation. What exactly do you consider bussing? What would you say your own position on bussing is, generally?
That's my thoughts. I'm leaving this here and going to bed.
All games become broken at some point as they unfold. You could just as easily make that comment if they all side with one of the other factions.
Agreed. At first it pinged me hard, but then I remembered that the leaders have BTSC with the League, and obvi mafia has BTSC with each other, so mafia would've just passed this thought along to the League rather than in the thread.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:49 amAll games become broken at some point as they unfold. You could just as easily make that comment if they all side with one of the other factions.
That being said. Heaps civvie sounding complaint.
It's pretty much my scumteam too. I feel like Marmot could be distancing Sloonei as a result of my lumping them together.
I like it in isolation but it contrasts heavily with what Golden was saying on day 1 about how he plays the game. Perhaps he was bullshitting about his preference to identify town and then POE hmmm? Just saying what he needed to to shake a suspicion?colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:53 amNot mac but I dont like you proposing an entire team on d2.
Why? You don't think I can catch an entire team on d2? I've done it before. I've also seen entire scum teams caught on day 1 (I miss manu).colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:53 amNot mac but I dont like you proposing an entire team on d2.
That makes sense.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:14 amYeah very strange that she took a post in which I was giving her credit and got angry about it. Doubt a scum would do that right? Scum would just be happy to have gotten the town points and let that one go through to the keeper?Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:49 amHe did say he ultimately gave you town points.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:05 amThis just is not true and I loathe that you are bringing down my entire scum meta to it when I have done that exactly twice in my entire mafia playing time. Once in Loneliness and Cheese on RYM (a strategic move on my part), and once in FE (because the whole team decided to buss each other). Saying that scum dunya always busses her teammates is incorrect and I refuse to let that stick on me. I have a reputation to maintain, ok?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:25 am Having looked back on dunya I see she had suspicions earlier in the day of players I came to suspect later. I am curious about it because my assumption is that a scum dunya would cast dispersions on her teammates to scoop up credit later but at the same time it isn't too dissimilar to why I pushed her incorrect lynch in Mortal Kombat. I give her some town points for this observation.
This is an interesting self-observation. What exactly do you consider bussing? What would you say your own position on bussing is, generally?
WTF are you haikuing about here?Dom wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:50 amVague. Vague. Vague.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:58 pmEnh. Not a tell, more like a true reflections of my feelings based on past experience. I still think you're bad.Dom wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:52 pmWhat's the purpose of my post?
Why, I'll share if you ask.
Until recently I had a neutral read on you. Maybe slightly bad, but neutral.
Then you repeated your desire to stay out of the sig/Dom interaction. That's the exact same thing you repeated ad nauseum in GOC about Epi and myself when you were bad.
Vague-ity vague.
Refrigerator.
Wow you are definitely bad.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:01 am Anyone with suspicion of Colin, pile votes onto him now. I have an idea.
[VOTE: ColinisCool] aubergine
Do you actually literally fish your hand in the toilet to get this stuff out, or do you use some sort of tool?
Remove my PoE and I'm left finding a team amongst about 9 or 10 instead of 21.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:55 amI like it in isolation but it contrasts heavily with what Golden was saying on day 1 about how he plays the game. Perhaps he was bullshitting about his preference to identify town and then POE hmmm? Just saying what he needed to to shake a suspicion?colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:53 amNot mac but I dont like you proposing an entire team on d2.
Either good or terrible; although I trust the players involved right now.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:54 amThere are quite a few players reading the scum team similarly and that feels good.
I just checked and I couldn't find the post I thought you made on that subject. Did you actually make one?Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:59 amRemove my PoE and I'm left finding a team amongst about 9 or 10 instead of 21.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:55 amI like it in isolation but it contrasts heavily with what Golden was saying on day 1 about how he plays the game. Perhaps he was bullshitting about his preference to identify town and then POE hmmm? Just saying what he needed to to shake a suspicion?colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:53 amNot mac but I dont like you proposing an entire team on d2.
I have many methods. Who knows what I'll use at any given point.
PS I could be really mistaken but I really don't think Marmot is bad. All of his posts remind me of good Marmot, and he uses his 'I do not kill Epi on day 1' meta a lot and it has always been true to date... again, you will take this as a grain of salt because a meta is made to be used, but I've been on the inside of a team with Marmot when he explained why he has this view and I don't think it's meta-building... I think it's a genuine rule he self-imposes.
What do you think of Wolfo?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:54 amIt's pretty much my scumteam too. I feel like Marmot could be distancing Sloonei as a result of my lumping them together.
There are quite a few players reading the scum team similarly and that feels good.
Would be happiest with a Sloonei or Colin lynch today.
Which subject?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:04 amI just checked and I couldn't find the post I thought you made on that subject. Did you actually make one?Golden wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:59 amRemove my PoE and I'm left finding a team amongst about 9 or 10 instead of 21.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:55 amI like it in isolation but it contrasts heavily with what Golden was saying on day 1 about how he plays the game. Perhaps he was bullshitting about his preference to identify town and then POE hmmm? Just saying what he needed to to shake a suspicion?colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:53 amNot mac but I dont like you proposing an entire team on d2.
I have many methods. Who knows what I'll use at any given point.
PS I could be really mistaken but I really don't think Marmot is bad. All of his posts remind me of good Marmot, and he uses his 'I do not kill Epi on day 1' meta a lot and it has always been true to date... again, you will take this as a grain of salt because a meta is made to be used, but I've been on the inside of a team with Marmot when he explained why he has this view and I don't think it's meta-building... I think it's a genuine rule he self-imposes.