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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:25 pm
by Golden
Let's get scotty elected.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:25 pm
by Golden
Colin, are you a precog?

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:25 pm
by ColinIsCool
[VOTE: TURNIP HEAD] aubergine

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:26 pm
by ColinIsCool
Golden wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:25 pm Colin, are you a precog?
Come again?

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:27 pm
by Turnip Head
Golden wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:25 pm Let's get scotty elected.
I will whore myself out to whoever can get it done. I can win by Day 3 and be out of the game :slick:

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:28 pm
by Golden
The fact that TH and Colin both claim related abilities after Epi and scotty have done the same, leads me to something approaching "TH is being at least partially honest"

It would be strange for TH to claim something entirely untrue, and uncommon (not a role I've seen before), only to have another character also has something similar going on.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:29 pm
by Turnip Head
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:25 pm [VOTE: TURNIP HEAD] aubergine
won't even call me turbup like the good old days

what have you become :puppy:

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:31 pm
by ColinIsCool
Turnip Head wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:29 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:25 pm [VOTE: TURNIP HEAD] aubergine
won't even call me turbup like the good old days

what have you become :puppy:
Oh shit, you’re right, sorry.

[VOTE: TURBUP HEAD[VOTE: ] aubergine] aubergine

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:32 pm
by ColinIsCool
Golden wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:28 pm The fact that TH and Colin both claim related abilities after Epi and scotty have done the same, leads me to something approaching "TH is being at least partially honest"

It would be strange for TH to claim something entirely untrue, and uncommon (not a role I've seen before), only to have another character also has something similar going on.
I don’t dislike the roleclaim particularly. I really dislike that wincon. In a game where I know very little, my own power suggests what he’s saying is blatantly false and I have to ask myself why that might be.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:37 pm
by Golden
Yeah, I agree with you - I think TH is telling us only part of the story. But I don't feel like distrusting him at the moment, and I'm happy to let the first part play out and see what happens next.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:38 pm
by ColinIsCool
Golden wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:37 pm Yeah, I agree with you - I think TH is telling us only part of the story. But I don't feel like distrusting him at the moment, and I'm happy to let the first part play out and see what happens next.
Is there any reason you are willing to hear him out and not, say, sig, who also made a strange claim?

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:42 pm
by MacDougall
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:22 pm OK, I will tell you about it.

I’m a vote predictor. I get an extra vote on days following a night poll where I successfully predict the winner.

So why would your wincon be something that I should reasonably be expected to do a few times over?

Nah. You’re not telling the truth.
So far in this game we have three doctors.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:42 pm
by Golden
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:38 pm
Golden wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:37 pm Yeah, I agree with you - I think TH is telling us only part of the story. But I don't feel like distrusting him at the moment, and I'm happy to let the first part play out and see what happens next.
Is there any reason you are willing to hear him out and not, say, sig, who also made a strange claim?
Yes. Sig was trying to seem town. TH doesn’t give a fuck.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:43 pm
by Epignosis
Spacedaisy wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:44 pm If it was one shot, then if I had done what he did IO would have made it damn clear that was the case, which he hasn't. Because he painted a big old target on himself with what he did otherwise. It seems reckless and possibly wasteful to me. That said, it depends on whether or not there is something to your text flavor point. And whether or not sig was actually bad. Because if sig is bad, then Quin is not. And neither is INH. This is assuming the message is true.

@Golden You should know by now that you can trust me. I was trying to prove myself, and I would hope you were watching well so you caught it. :shrug:
Forget whether Quin actually got a message?

Who cares?

He dumped into the thread, and what we got was INH and sig both upset over the message. Neither accused the other. Nether accused Quin. None of that happened. They focused on the message's origin or the consequences it may have for them as individuals rather than for civilians.

That to me is the most important thing, and I could give a toss if Quin was lying or truthful about his message.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:43 pm
by MacDougall
I am pretty comfortable with my Paradox Police reads. I've seen nothing to dissuade me.

Turnip Head
Sig
Spacedaisy
Lapluie

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:44 pm
by ColinIsCool
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:42 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:22 pm OK, I will tell you about it.

I’m a vote predictor. I get an extra vote on days following a night poll where I successfully predict the winner.

So why would your wincon be something that I should reasonably be expected to do a few times over?

Nah. You’re not telling the truth.
So far in this game we have three doctors.
I didn’t think Epi was claiming seriously. Who’s the third?

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:45 pm
by Golden
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:42 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:22 pm OK, I will tell you about it.

I’m a vote predictor. I get an extra vote on days following a night poll where I successfully predict the winner.

So why would your wincon be something that I should reasonably be expected to do a few times over?

Nah. You’re not telling the truth.
So far in this game we have three doctors.
I didn’t think Epi was claiming seriously. Who’s the third?
I don’t know why you’d disbelieve epi... he went so far as to claim Scotty was not a doctor.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:47 pm
by ColinIsCool
Golden wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:45 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:42 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:22 pm OK, I will tell you about it.

I’m a vote predictor. I get an extra vote on days following a night poll where I successfully predict the winner.

So why would your wincon be something that I should reasonably be expected to do a few times over?

Nah. You’re not telling the truth.
So far in this game we have three doctors.
I didn’t think Epi was claiming seriously. Who’s the third?
I don’t know why you’d disbelieve epi... he went so far as to claim Scotty was not a doctor.
I feel like I’m missing entire pieces of the thread. Let me go back and find that.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:48 pm
by Spacedaisy
Epignosis wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:43 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:44 pm If it was one shot, then if I had done what he did IO would have made it damn clear that was the case, which he hasn't. Because he painted a big old target on himself with what he did otherwise. It seems reckless and possibly wasteful to me. That said, it depends on whether or not there is something to your text flavor point. And whether or not sig was actually bad. Because if sig is bad, then Quin is not. And neither is INH. This is assuming the message is true.

@Golden You should know by now that you can trust me. I was trying to prove myself, and I would hope you were watching well so you caught it. :shrug:
Forget whether Quin actually got a message?

Who cares?

He dumped into the thread, and what we got was INH and sig both upset over the message. Neither accused the other. Nether accused Quin. None of that happened. They focused on the message's origin or the consequences it may have for them as individuals rather than for civilians.

That to me is the most important thing, and I could give a toss if Quin was lying or truthful about his message.
Epi that wasn’t directed at you, it was a post in response to a question Gokden asked me. Go poke at someone else.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:49 pm
by MacDougall
Perhaps the most obvious thing to me is that Spacedaisy is spending half her time in this game in some form of BTSC.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:50 pm
by Kylemii
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:10 pm
Kylemii wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:08 pm im town and turniphead is likely an indie like he says. im 90% confident
How?
cus we're masons :p

he told me on day 0

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:50 pm
by Golden
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:49 pm Perhaps the most obvious thing to me is that Spacedaisy is spending half her time in this game in some form of BTSC.
What makes you form this view.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:50 pm
by ColinIsCool
OK. So Scotty and Epi both claim doctor. Who’s #3?

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:51 pm
by Kylemii
Golden wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:55 pm Mac, why’d you vote sig to get the item when he was bottom of your reads?

Epi, why’d you go for bribery?

Daisy, Luna, Kyle - also want to know why you voted for sig.

I’m starting with a review of this group of five.
i voted sig to help th get his win con

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:51 pm
by ColinIsCool
Kylemii wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:50 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:10 pm
Kylemii wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:08 pm im town and turniphead is likely an indie like he says. im 90% confident
How?
cus we're masons :p

he told me on day 0
Da fuq

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:51 pm
by Golden
TH, do you believe Kyle is town?

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:52 pm
by Spacedaisy
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:49 pm Perhaps the most obvious thing to me is that Spacedaisy is spending half her time in this game in some form of BTSC.
Talk to me again after the game when you will have to admit you don’t know how to read me for shit. I don’t have BTSC.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:53 pm
by Golden
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:50 pm OK. So Scotty and Epi both claim doctor. Who’s #3?
I can't remember but number 3 is the one that I think wasn't being serious.

Probably TH.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:53 pm
by Spacedaisy
Oh response to why I voted like I did for sig. :shrug: because I felt like I appreciated his honest approach to saying why we should vote him.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:55 pm
by Kylemii
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:50 pm OK. So Scotty and Epi both claim doctor. Who’s #3?
it's possible one is a doctor and the other is The Doctor

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:56 pm
by MacDougall
I am number 3. I am also not joking in the slightest.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:57 pm
by MacDougall
Spacedaisy wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:49 pm Perhaps the most obvious thing to me is that Spacedaisy is spending half her time in this game in some form of BTSC.
Talk to me again after the game when you will have to admit you don’t know how to read me for shit. I don’t have BTSC.
Nah.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:57 pm
by ColinIsCool
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:56 pm I am number 3. I am also not joking in the slightest.
And you believe Scotty and Epi?

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:57 pm
by Spacedaisy
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:57 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:49 pm Perhaps the most obvious thing to me is that Spacedaisy is spending half her time in this game in some form of BTSC.
Talk to me again after the game when you will have to admit you don’t know how to read me for shit. I don’t have BTSC.
Nah.
Right because Mac doesn’t admit he was wrong, but you are.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:58 pm
by Golden
Three doctors lol.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:59 pm
by Golden
No need to believe Scotty, I can independently verify it's the truth.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:59 pm
by Turnip Head
Golden wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:51 pm TH, do you believe Kyle is town?
He's my only friend Golden :-/

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:00 pm
by Turnip Head
Leave Kyle out of this

He deserved better

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:01 pm
by ColinIsCool
This game is fucking weird.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:04 pm
by Golden
Turnip Head wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:59 pm
Golden wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:51 pm TH, do you believe Kyle is town?
He's my only friend Golden :-/
I am also your friend. I took this thread seriously and engaged your legal services.

But sometimes your friends turn out to be bad. Do you believe him to be town?

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:04 pm
by Kylemii
Turnop Head doesn't believe in breakfast and i think that alone should be a lynchable offense

but he also made the same wincon claim he made in the thread here on day 0, almost first thing. his very first action in our chatroom was to say he didn't care what my alignment was cus he was an indie with an easy win con

and like..... everything about it is easily fakeable sure except he said he'd leave the game once he completed his wincon, and....?????? i guess there'd be ways to fake that too. but it would be a really weird gambit to commit to on day 0 of a game like this

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:06 pm
by MacDougall
Spacedaisy wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:57 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:49 pm Perhaps the most obvious thing to me is that Spacedaisy is spending half her time in this game in some form of BTSC.
Talk to me again after the game when you will have to admit you don’t know how to read me for shit. I don’t have BTSC.
Nah.
Right because Mac doesn’t admit he was wrong, but you are.
What, I always admit when I am wrong. It's one of my best traits. :charlieblackmon:

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:09 pm
by Quin
Kylemii wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:55 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:50 pm OK. So Scotty and Epi both claim doctor. Who’s #3?
it's possible one is a doctor and the other is The Doctor
fuck he's right

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:09 pm
by Quin
Kylemii wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:55 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:50 pm OK. So Scotty and Epi both claim doctor. Who’s #3?
it's possible one is a doctor and the other is The Doctor
fuck he's right

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:12 pm
by MacDougall
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:56 pm I am number 3. I am also not joking in the slightest.
And you believe Scotty and Epi?
Yes

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:13 pm
by MacDougall
Kylemii wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:55 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:50 pm OK. So Scotty and Epi both claim doctor. Who’s #3?
it's possible one is a doctor and the other is The Doctor
What if I told you that I was The Doctor?

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:14 pm
by Kylemii
counterpoint?

it's weird as hell to put an indie and civ randomly in btsc together, like the btsc isn't even what my role is about, it doesn't have anything to do with TH's role either apparently, it seems to just be a thing that happened cus our characters are both grumpy dudes.

but like,.... if turnip head is telling the truth about his role and wincon then this is an odd choice for a masonic group, it's not as helpful as a true masonry but it's not as dangerous as a true mixmason either, it's just me kinda using Turniphead as a sounding board for ideas and crazy theories like about how maybe everyone else is paired off into masons too and talking about our favorite breakfast cereals.

it's kinda great actually

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:14 pm
by Epignosis
Spacedaisy wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:20 pm @MacDougall Can you check your DM's from me on discord? I need to know if I have your approval before I upload the banners
Shit like this bothers me.

If you're bad, you have a chat room to pass this message along.

If you are not bad (or even if you are not), you have the private message function.

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:14 pm
by Epignosis
*Or even if you are

Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:14 pm
by Golden
Daisy - I fully trust you.

That’s what an iso does for you.

Alright, on to the next thing.