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Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:40 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:18 pm Why does Jay attack me and leave nutella alone. Double standards. I delivered you Jack not her. She just sheeped me. She's town though.

Also I need more scrap. Votes please.
nutella is behaving like a civilian and has been for days. I don't need Jack to view her positively. You have nothing going for you at all beyond that Day 1 vote.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:45 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
As ridiculous as this game has been, it feels like POE is possible.

motobot looked like a civilian, as much as one can in limited posts, at the end of the day. Long Con looks decent enough at least by tone. Sloonei's game is just a quieter version of mine; I'm inclined to believe he has no idea what's going on. nutella is the most overtly civilian player remaining. I doubt sig is a mafioso who disregarded an entire game mechanic -- as a recent teammate of sig that doesn't strike me as likely.

Myo is left. The jail thing works.
Mac is left. His behavior works. The Jack vote means shit all at this point.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:48 pm
by Long Con
Maybe it would be prudent if someone who has a roleblock could block Myo tonight.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:49 pm
by Long Con
Although with two Mafiosos left, the other one would just take the kill, assuming it's decided the usual way.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:02 am
by MacDougall
Jay turning on my like this probably just means he's Mafia tbh. It's not like he's been solving. He's just been whining about others not solving.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:01 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:02 am Jay turning on my like this probably just means he's Mafia tbh. It's not like he's been solving. He's just been whining about others not solving.
I have absolutely been trying. You’re fake.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:05 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
“Oh I’ve done shit for days and Jay doesn’t like it, guess he’s mafia”

Bullshit ass read

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:17 am
by MacDougall
You know I am fully capable of making this read lol. You're the fake.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:21 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:17 am You know I am fully capable of making this read lol. You're the fake.
Just about anyone in this game is easier to lynch than you are save maybe nutella. There is no opportunity to pounce on here, and there is no agenda to interpret. There is only a player sitting in a town core and not trying to win the game for town. It’s long since time something was done about that.

You’re not so blindly egotistical that you cannot understand this.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:32 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
the idea here is for other people to comment

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:40 am
by Long Con
I floated the idea that Mac and Jack were teammates two days ago and you didn't think it worthy of commenting on.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:56 am
by sig
Long Con wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:40 pm I really think I should sometimes get a scrap vote.
I'll give you scraps if you give me scraps.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:57 am
by sig
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:32 am the idea here is for other people to comment
I've also said since Jack flipped Mac could be mafia and was basically ignored. :shrug:

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:57 am
by sig
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:45 pm As ridiculous as this game has been, it feels like POE is possible.

motobot looked like a civilian, as much as one can in limited posts, at the end of the day. Long Con looks decent enough at least by tone. Sloonei's game is just a quieter version of mine; I'm inclined to believe he has no idea what's going on. nutella is the most overtly civilian player remaining. I doubt sig is a mafioso who disregarded an entire game mechanic -- as a recent teammate of sig that doesn't strike me as likely.

Myo is left. The jail thing works.
Mac is left. His behavior works. The Jack vote means shit all at this point.
Maybe I'm revamping my mafia meta.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:58 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
We can get pissy or we can win. If you think Mac is mafia now, please tell me why you feel that way. Anyone.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:59 am
by sig
motobot wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:30 pm
sig wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:58 am Or mafia are new/inactive
I think sig. I'm inactive and new but I'm not bad.
Pot calling the kettle black there. :p

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:00 am
by sig
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:58 am We can get pissy or we can win. If you think Mac is mafia now, please tell me why you feel that way. Anyone.
:shrug:

I'm basing it off the fact I think he'd bus Jack to gain civ credit.

He also hasn't taken advantage of the flip and been very Mac like.

Though I also think you could be mafia, since you replaced an inactive and i think an inactive could've been mafia. :shrug:

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:12 am
by Long Con
sig wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:56 am
Long Con wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:40 pm I really think I should sometimes get a scrap vote.
I'll give you scraps if you give me scraps.
Best deal I have been offered! Done!

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:58 pm
by Sloonei
I do not understand mac’s reaction to this suspicion.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:54 pm
by nutella
Mac does seem to have fallen off in a concerning way. I felt pretty confident in him based on our mindmelding/how we worked together on D1, but that has faded as he hasn't done much since.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:04 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
There you have it [mention]MacDougall[/mention].

You're right that I alone don't have the power to eliminate you. Five or six people certainly do though. You're currently receiving no votes for scrap. If you're a civilian I hope you'll step the hell up now. The game can still be salvaged.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:25 pm
by MacDougall
If you guys wanna lynch me and lose the game that's entirely up to you

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:33 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:25 pm If you guys wanna lynch me and lose the game that's entirely up to you
okay

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:34 pm
by MacDougall
I don't have your scrap. Its in Jay's house and ... and Sloonei's house.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:34 pm
by MacDougall
nutella wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:54 pm Mac does seem to have fallen off in a concerning way. I felt pretty confident in him based on our mindmelding/how we worked together on D1, but that has faded as he hasn't done much since.
Oh cmon this is against our pact.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:36 pm
by MacDougall
Lynching me if/while Sloonei, Long Con and Jay are alive is gamethrowing. If it happens i will ensure a worst lynch award is included in sockys just to hand it out here.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:37 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:36 pm Lynching me if/while Sloonei, Long Con and Jay are alive is gamethrowing. If it happens i will ensure a worst lynch award is included in sockys just to hand it out here.
You have no power over the Socky Awards.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:37 pm
by MacDougall
Need I remind you all that Sloonei specifically opposed the Jack lynch. What's he done that's so town? Make him dance. Leave me alone.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:38 pm
by MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:36 pm Lynching me if/while Sloonei, Long Con and Jay are alive is gamethrowing. If it happens i will ensure a worst lynch award is included in sockys just to hand it out here.
You have no power over the Socky Awards.
I will hijack the threademony I promise.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:38 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
All three of those players have tried harder to solve the game than you have. Remarkably.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:38 pm
by MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:38 pm All three of those players have tried harder to solve the game than you have. Remarkably.
I disagree.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:39 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:38 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:38 pm All three of those players have tried harder to solve the game than you have. Remarkably.
I disagree.
What have you done since Day 1 ended?

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:40 pm
by MacDougall
I am the main person responsible for the town having a mafia flip. I did more on day 1 than any of you have done subsequent.

I also opposed the Jiwon wagon. I pushed to lynch Daisy cuz I thought she was Mafia.

I'm not gonna pretend I've been trying hard since but I'm not mafia and I'm not a good lynch lol.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 1]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:42 pm
by MacDougall
MacDougall wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 9:34 am Also Jay I'm enforce policy lynching you if we don't lynch Mafia on day two.
We just gonna let Jay yeet the hero that took down the Rebel Flagship after he just showed up in the cargo bay. He's probably some sort of skinwalker or something.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:42 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:40 pm I am the main person responsible for the town having a mafia flip. I did more on day 1 than any of you have done subsequent.
Nobody cares anymore.
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:40 pmI also opposed the Jiwon wagon. I pushed to lynch Daisy cuz I thought she was Mafia.

I'm not gonna pretend I've been trying hard since but I'm not mafia and I'm not a good lynch lol.
You "opposed" the Jiwon wagon by making a single one-line post and then pissing off without doing anything more to explain your perspective or resist the general suspicion. You ignored at least three of us at EOD2 when we told you we didn't think Daisy was the right choice.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:43 pm
by MacDougall
This is a waste of energy. I will return with 30 minutes to go on day 5. Hopefully you have a Jay wagon prepared upon my return.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:44 pm
by MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:40 pm I am the main person responsible for the town having a mafia flip. I did more on day 1 than any of you have done subsequent.
Nobody cares anymore.
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:40 pmI also opposed the Jiwon wagon. I pushed to lynch Daisy cuz I thought she was Mafia.

I'm not gonna pretend I've been trying hard since but I'm not mafia and I'm not a good lynch lol.
You "opposed" the Jiwon wagon by making a single one-line post and then pissing off without doing anything more to explain your perspective or resist the general suspicion. You ignored at least three of us at EOD2 when we told you we didn't think Daisy was the right choice.
Don't make me ask you questions with obvious answers.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:44 pm
by MacDougall
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:43 pm This is a waste of energy. I will return with 30 minutes to go on day 5. Hopefully you have a Jay wagon prepared upon my return.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:45 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:43 pm This is a waste of energy. I will return with 30 minutes to go on day 5. Hopefully you have a Jay wagon prepared upon my return.
Give me a break Mac. This is how you treat a game where you led a mafia elimination on Day 1? What sense do you make right now? What sense have you made since that happened?

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:45 pm
by MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:45 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:43 pm This is a waste of energy. I will return with 30 minutes to go on day 5. Hopefully you have a Jay wagon prepared upon my return.
Give me a break Mac. This is how you treat a game where you led a mafia elimination on Day 1? What sense do you make right now? What sense have you made since that happened?
Indeed.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:46 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I don't believe that you find me suspicious.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:52 pm
by MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:46 pm I don't believe that you find me suspicious.
This is the part that truly bothers me. I always tinfoil you when I am town but when I am Mafia I have a history of buddying you.

I definitely do suspect that you might be mafia. I don't suspect it enough to summon the energy to want to actually push it so I am hopeful if I nudge people they might do the work for me.

Suffice to say the biggest hole in your game is your lack of results. Which ... is pretty heavily alignment indicative.

Also focusing on me over others who have zero clearing reasons is asinine. I don't think you think I am Mafia either. The question is whether you're just trying to provoke me into doing things to help you solve...

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:55 pm
by nutella
.......ok mac is fine

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:01 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:52 pmSuffice to say the biggest hole in your game is your lack of results. Which ... is pretty heavily alignment indicative.
You're right that I have no results. My attempts to solve this game have felt like a monkey effing a football. The environment in here is the opposite of what works best for me, despite my best efforts. The only player I can find in here who has been proactive about promoting their own civilianhood is nutella -- and if we're wrong about her, we deserve to lose because we never gave ourselves a chance. There can be no process of elimination when there are no town reads. There can be no town teamwork when there is no town.

I'm getting inactive, disinterested, and/or dismissive play. I'm getting cranky play. I have been cranky, so sure heap some of the blame on me too. But this thread is not one that looks like civilian wins look.
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:52 pmAlso focusing on me over others who have zero clearing reasons is asinine. I don't think you think I am Mafia either. The question is whether you're just trying to provoke me into doing things to help you solve...
I've been focusing on those others for the whole game since I joined it. It's time you answered for your crimes.

Instead of wondering whether I am trying to motivate you, how about you take the onus upon yourself to get motivated?

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:25 pm
by MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:52 pmSuffice to say the biggest hole in your game is your lack of results. Which ... is pretty heavily alignment indicative.
You're right that I have no results. My attempts to solve this game have felt like a monkey effing a football. The environment in here is the opposite of what works best for me, despite my best efforts. The only player I can find in here who has been proactive about promoting their own civilianhood is nutella -- and if we're wrong about her, we deserve to lose because we never gave ourselves a chance. There can be no process of elimination when there are no town reads. There can be no town teamwork when there is no town.

I'm getting inactive, disinterested, and/or dismissive play. I'm getting cranky play. I have been cranky, so sure heap some of the blame on me too. But this thread is not one that looks like civilian wins look.
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:52 pmAlso focusing on me over others who have zero clearing reasons is asinine. I don't think you think I am Mafia either. The question is whether you're just trying to provoke me into doing things to help you solve...
I've been focusing on those others for the whole game since I joined it. It's time you answered for your crimes.

Instead of wondering whether I am trying to motivate you, how about you take the onus upon yourself to get motivated?
Sometimes I just can't. Pushing me doesn't help.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:25 pm
by MacDougall
What crimes btw.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:34 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:25 pm What crimes btw.
I just told you a couple, and you said something about questions with obvious answers. Your interaction with the game is negatively correlated with the positivity of the outlook for the civilians. Let's look at an approximated graph:

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Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:34 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
You've heard the call. I hope you'll do something with it.

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:38 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Actually I guess that's technically a positive correlation? Sorta? Math

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:46 pm
by MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:38 pm Actually I guess that's technically a positive correlation? Sorta? Math
You just played yourself