Bonk Mafia (TOWN WINS)

[tutuu]

@Dyson sphere please its really important to say if u got a role, do u?

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Why now? Youve been on Mizery all day

[Dyson sphere]

I guess it can look like that. Its actually "suspected for bad reasons". Does nobody read my posts? Do you think the weight of Alison's case on me has any natural progression?

I'm not sure that it can. She joined the game and you were among her first reads. Perhaps the confidence expressed is inordinate. That doesn't say a lot to me about Alison in particular (including not making me believe her more or less). "Progression" for a player in her position might not be the right thing to look for.

I'm torn on you personally. If you can continue to make posts and do the best you can to find the solution to the game your own way, that will help me a lot.

Alright, this is the only thing I remember from when I played mafia last. It's that you ask people to make more posts.

Now if I knew if you did this only as town or only as wolf, then I would know what you are. But I suspect that you always do that anyway.

I'm torn on you personally. If you can continue to make posts and do the best you can to find the solution to the game your own way, that will help me a lot.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Why now? Youve been on Mizery all day

It's a blatant self pres vote.


I've also been on motel


Motel, Mizery, TSP, Alison is my POE currently

[falcon45ca]

I guess it can look like that. Its actually "suspected for bad reasons". Does nobody read my posts? Do you think the weight of Alison's case on me has any natural progression?

I'm not sure that it can. She joined the game and you were among her first reads. Perhaps the confidence expressed is inordinate. That doesn't say a lot to me about Alison in particular (including not making me believe her more or less). "Progression" for a player in her position might not be the right thing to look for.

I'm torn on you personally. If you can continue to make posts and do the best you can to find the solution to the game your own way, that will help me a lot.

Alright, this is the only thing I remember from when I played mafia last. It's that you ask people to make more posts.

Now if I knew if you did this only as town or only as wolf, then I would know what you are. But I suspect that you always do that anyway.

I'm torn on you personally. If you can continue to make posts and do the best you can to find the solution to the game your own way, that will help me a lot.

You gonna claim, or what?

[Dyson sphere]

This just feels like one of those games where the town are overthinking things and there are enough scummy/antagonistic townies floating around doing bizarre shit on top of it to help feed into it.

and what if he flips town?

Do you think I'm town?

thats irrelevant to my question to Mac.

The only person I think is town is Mac and Dunya

I think either rondo is mac. Satisfied now? I thought pretty long about this read.

Everyone else is wolf. Or poe, eventually I learned what that means, process of elimination.

[Dyson sphere]

I meant either rondo or mac is town

[falcon45ca]

What's everyone's favorite breakfast?

It's been a fuckin crazy couple days, I burnt over 10K calories yesterday and I am famished. I'm thinking 3 eggs benny, poached medium, with a pile of fruit and shredded hashbrowns. Maybe a Crown Float to wash it down, and definitely coffee

[Dyson sphere]

Because you guys always wanna have reads and what not

[falcon45ca]

I meant either rondo or mac is town

Either or, but not both? Interesting

[tutuu]

What's everyone's favorite breakfast?

It's been a fuckin crazy couple days, I burnt over 10K calories yesterday and I am famished. I'm thinking 3 eggs benny, poached medium, with a pile of fruit and shredded hashbrowns. Maybe a Crown Float to wash it down, and definitely coffee

If i had more money my ideal breakfast would be 2 or 3 scrambled eggs on a thick chunk of sourdough bread, 2 or 3 sauteed mushrooms and a handful of sauteed cherry tomatoes. A cup of cold milk

Realistically since im a student i just go for a banana or a yogurt or cereal

[RondoDimBuckle]

This just feels like one of those games where the town are overthinking things and there are enough scummy/antagonistic townies floating around doing bizarre shit on top of it to help feed into it.

and what if he flips town?

Do you think I'm town?

thats irrelevant to my question to Mac.

The only person I think is town is Mac and Dunya

I think either rondo is mac. Satisfied now? I thought pretty long about this read.

Everyone else is wolf. Or poe, eventually I learned what that means, process of elimination.

This is such adherence to the status quo it makes me want to vote him

[VOTE: dyson ] aubergine

[RondoDimBuckle]

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Dyson sphere
1
5%
Voters: RondoDimBuckle
falcon45ca
6
30%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Master Radishes, Mizery, MacDougall, tutuu, Alison
Lime Coke / JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes
Voters: None
lost monkey / Alison
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20%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime, JaggedJimmyJay, NotAnAxehole, falcon45ca
MacDougall
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5%
Voters: Dyson sphere
Master Radishes
0
No votes
Voters: None
Mizery
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No votes
Voters: None
motel room
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No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
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No votes
Voters: None
NotAnAxehole
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No votes
Voters: None
RondoDimBuckle
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No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
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5%
Voters: motel room
tutuu
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No votes
Voters: None
[SLEEP]
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Voters: None
[NO VOTE]
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T minus 2 hours and 30 minutes till EOD

[RondoDimBuckle]

less than 3 hours till EOD and all is quiet, town is dying?

[NotAnAxehole]

less than 3 hours till EOD and all is quiet, town is dying?

Probably

[falcon45ca]

What's everyone's favorite breakfast?

It's been a fuckin crazy couple days, I burnt over 10K calories yesterday and I am famished. I'm thinking 3 eggs benny, poached medium, with a pile of fruit and shredded hashbrowns. Maybe a Crown Float to wash it down, and definitely coffee

If i had more money my ideal breakfast would be 2 or 3 scrambled eggs on a thick chunk of sourdough bread, 2 or 3 sauteed mushrooms and a handful of sauteed cherry tomatoes. A cup of cold milk

Realistically since im a student i just go for a banana or a yogurt or cereal

I'd like to buy you this breakfast

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: JJJ ] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

less than 3 hours till EOD and all is quiet, town is dying?

I'm the lead wagon, so why have you dodge the question when I've asked if you're TR me?

[RondoDimBuckle]

less than 3 hours till EOD and all is quiet, town is dying?

I'm the lead wagon, so why have you dodge the question when I've asked if you're TR me?

Because I rolled doubles which gives me agility access

[RondoDimBuckle]

@Dyson sphere @motel room

You guys gonna get on a meaningful wagon or keep your invalid votes or switch at the last second?

[tutuu]

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

RNJesus gave us a wolf pelt last time, who are we to claim to know better

[tutuu]

Please keep the wagons tied i think its really funny

[RondoDimBuckle]

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I don't understand why we care

Well technically, and I’ve read maybe 30 percent of the thread, Rondo is CCing Mac. This seems careworthy

What is CCing? When I signed up, I had no idea I was expected to understand so much jargon.

Counter Claim

Alright, so they are both role providers. That means one of them is mafia and the other one is town. We just have to figure out who is which.

No

Mac says he's a role provided and sent rondo a cop n1

Rondo said he got nothing

Then rondo got the insane cop role, which means mac is the mafia role provider.

Guys, I solved it lol

[VOTE: macdougall] aubergine

Here is Dyson actively interacting with my claim that Mac didnt give me a role and that he was lying. Dyson jumps on that and sits on Mac

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I'm making another post to increase my post count.

I really dont like this post, activity for activities sake

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I gave a cop check to the mafia didn't I lol

So do you know this or are you guessing it? Which player was that again?

Here is my real point, Dyson later saying he doesnt know who was given the cop role when he previously interacted with the tread and specifically the reason he is on Mac?

Is he actually clueless or just playing the part?

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: mizery ] aubergine

[tutuu]

Hi (sorry for scummyness)

[RondoDimBuckle]

Hi (sorry for scummyness)

You're looking to save alison at the last second by over posting

[tutuu]

Hi (sorry for scummyness)

You're looking to save alison at the last second by over posting

and i would have gotten away with it too, if it werent for you meddling kid

[Master Radishes]

The problem with meta is that it evolves. Once upon a time it was easy to read Falcon; then once upon a different time it became harder (for me) as he improved his scum game and could match his tone/style more closely. Recently I felt comfortable reading him again, but less on meta and more so on how he treated me when we were in the same game.

So I hesitate to speak up because I don't want people taking me at my word as if I'm a meta expert. I find when you play *too* many games with someone you begin to see aspects of both their town and scum games in everything they do. I see that here with Falc. On top of that, nearly all our experience has been in the more insular CDC community, and only a handful of games in the last half a year off our home site (here on the Syndicate). Different environments mean changing meta as well, which also makes me hesitant to commit to a meta read.

My main concern here and now with him is that, in my most recent experience, I figured out wolf Falc based on him trying to pocket me, whereas town Falc is usually wary of me at first. In this game, he's...not been blatantly pocketing me, perhaps, but certainly I've seen no attempt to solve me. I feel like town Falcon should've been more reluctant to let me slank my way through the game like I sort of have. I've tried to avoid engaging him beyond non-game stuff to see how that develops and it...hasn't. He's done other little things I associate with town Falc, but big-picture-wise I'm not convinced.

So right now, GTH, I want to call Falcon scum. But if he flips town I'm just going to shrug and re-calibrate my expectations of him for future games together.

These are all fair takes, and I'm ok with how you're approaching my slot.

I prefer solving your slot later in the game, since reading you off tone isn't as easy for me as other players. I find it a simpler task to read you based off who and how you solve, and that's not something I can do in the early RDs. See the Champs game, where I tried to early game read you and failed miserably.

See you're doing it again.

Your first line is something a scum would say to try to appear reasonable etc etc.

But your last line makes perfect sense if you're town here as well.

[tutuu]

Since people will be confused by Master's last post, let me translate:

Basically Master is saying that he thinks falcon is either town-aligned or scum-aligned. One of the two

[Master Radishes]

I am also okay with Alison going over. LoMo fits well with Scotty based on associative stuff, and Alison sounds towny but also she has a kickass wolf game so I can't say I've noticed any single thing that I think w!her couldn't say/do.

I agree with tutuu - let it rand.

[Master Radishes]

Since people will be confused by Master's last post, let me translate:

Basically Master is saying that he thinks falcon is either town-aligned or scum-aligned. One of the two

You just get me.

[tutuu]

LMAO

[Master Radishes]

I'm going to stay on Falcon because his general ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ attitude here fits with scum knowing they're doomed. I think (/want to believe) that a townie gets a bit grumpy or snarky or self-righteous or something like that instead.

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: alison ] aubergine

[RondoDimBuckle]

Post all original pokemon

[RondoDimBuckle]

TSP is here now for his last minute vote switch then to pretend he wasnt here at the end of the day again

Axe is also viewing

[Master Radishes]

TSP is here now for his last minute vote switch then to pretend he wasnt here at the end of the day again

Axe is also viewing

Maybe, but this is a bad method to read people. I always leave a game tab open on my computer even when not actively playing. (I usually keep my login private specifically to avoid people giving takes like this tbh.)

[RondoDimBuckle]

RondoDimBuckle 178 -- 26 remaining after this post

[RondoDimBuckle]

TSP is here now for his last minute vote switch then to pretend he wasnt here at the end of the day again

Axe is also viewing

Maybe, but this is a bad method to read people. I always leave a game tab open on my computer even when not actively playing. (I usually keep my login private specifically to avoid people giving takes like this tbh.)

I am just finding reasons to get my post count closer to 178 tbh

[falcon45ca]

I am also okay with Alison going over. LoMo fits well with Scotty based on associative stuff, and Alison sounds towny but also she has a kickass wolf game so I can't say I've noticed any single thing that I think w!her couldn't say/do.

I agree with tutuu - let it rand.

That's not the town MR I know.

Town should control it's destiny, then we can make reads off who moves on what wagons and why.

Of course if both wagons are town, then it's even easier for wolves to hide on the wagons.

MR gets a scum point for this, as outlined in Section 4, Paragraph 7 of the Beluga Bible for Town

[RondoDimBuckle]

Choosing your target is good and town is leaning towards choosing you Falcon wouldnt the random chop benefit you?

[Master Radishes]

This is not an important post to solving the game. I just feel like responding to it.

--

Alright, quick question, I've been reading more than one player bemoan the post cap. Do you guys honestly believe that unlimited posting would actually help yourselves or each other or anyone really? I'm sure some of you could make a 1000 posts in a day phase. What would that even accomplish, I just can't understand that. What is there to say except make the thread require more effort to read?

Generally, yes, more posts = more info = more chances to assess people's alignments. There is definitely such a thing as 'info overload' that bogs down the thread, but 100 posts max is limiting for some players and means it's hard to fully evaluate their intentions. It limits the number of avenues of discussion that can take place, for example. It also allows the mafia to not worry about their thread presence as much; higher post counts forces more participation which can force mistakes being made. Some people do their best work when interacting live and just 'vibing' with the flow of the thread, as opposed to reading back and building analysis-based cases and such.

But it's all player dependent, of course. Everyone has different styles.

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: falcon ] aubergine

[Dyson sphere]

@Dyson sphere @motel room

You guys gonna get on a meaningful wagon or keep your invalid votes or switch at the last second?

Yes, alright, I am going to get on a meaningful wagon, I am not going to keep my invalid votes, I may switch at the last second.

So, upon further investigation, I have concluded that I am going to
[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

[Dyson sphere]

@Dyson sphere please its really important to say if u got a role, do u?

No, I do not have a role

[falcon45ca]

Choosing your target is good and town is leaning towards choosing you Falcon wouldnt the random chop benefit you?

As weird as it may sound, I'd much rather be the chosen lynch of town and have player's forced to make reads on me, than get lynched in a coin toss and player's don't have the same pressure, cuz hey it's just tied wagons

[RondoDimBuckle]

You know the abbreviation MR doesnt work when there are two people with the MR abbreviation in the game?

Aka MR and MR

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: alison ] aubergine

[RondoDimBuckle]

so who is Motel going to pick?

[tutuu]

[VOTE: alison ] aubergine

Atta boy