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Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:13 am
by NotAnAxehole
@Michelle why do you refuse to formulate reasonable reads?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:14 am
by Michelle
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:11 am
Michelle wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:10 am
alexa wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:04 pm why didn't mafia target the actual cop claims wtf
also reports??
Cheked Mac, my result is mafia
I don't think anyone needs details :p

Sorry for the misread Mac :heart:
So we rely on my reads going forward yeah?
Nah

You defending hard Scotty and Scotty shading me when I read you mafia makes me want your flip.
Mac town was TMI from you imo

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:15 am
by Michelle
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:13 am @Michelle why do you refuse to formulate reasonable reads?
Because

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:16 am
by NotAnAxehole
Michelle wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:14 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:11 am
Michelle wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:10 am
alexa wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:04 pm why didn't mafia target the actual cop claims wtf
also reports??
Cheked Mac, my result is mafia
I don't think anyone needs details :p

Sorry for the misread Mac :heart:
So we rely on my reads going forward yeah?
Nah

You defending hard Scotty and Scotty shading me when I read you mafia makes me want your flip.
Mac town was TMI from you imo
Oh, the Scotty defense was just a bit of fun. Or me playing a wicked Jester (which I've already said many times... Ah the power of gaslighting)

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:16 am
by NotAnAxehole
Michelle wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:15 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:13 am @Michelle why do you refuse to formulate reasonable reads?
Because
It's ok, I know how to get your vote to stick on me, which pleases me greatly. Getting enough to go over will be challenging though.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:17 am
by LinearPoint
You're still not Jester, honestly doubt you're even neutral.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:17 am
by Michelle
I think mafia was affraid that cops will be protected so they killed Wilgy and probably the SK killed Mac

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:17 am
by NotAnAxehole
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:17 am You're still not Jester, honestly doubt you're even neutral.
Are you town reading me now?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:18 am
by NotAnAxehole
Michelle wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:17 am I think mafia was affraid that cops will be protected so they killed Wilgy and probably the SK killed Mac
Wilgy didn't die from mafia.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:18 am
by LinearPoint
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:17 am
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:17 am You're still not Jester, honestly doubt you're even neutral.
Are you town reading me now?
To be determined.
You haven't yet convinced me you have done anything AI yet.
Other than the fact the only possible 3rd Party role you could be is Survivor becuase you are that insane.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:19 am
by Michelle
Everyone, i will not interact with NAA from now on, seems pointless and I have better things to do, in the game and irl as well

I will come back later, AMA

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:20 am
by NotAnAxehole
Michelle has no world view outside of this vote park.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:20 am
by MafiaMenace
didnt use cop check because i only have so many uses
ill do a short catchup and then my activity is gonna be incredibly infrequent because i wont have wifi for 5 or so days

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:21 am
by NotAnAxehole
Oof

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:21 am
by LinearPoint
No offense, but wouldn't it be better to use them early so you don't risk dying?
I mean I guess we know there is a Doctor now, but still.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:21 am
by NotAnAxehole
Ok, Linear, how do you feel about killing JoH today?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:22 am
by LinearPoint
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:20 am Michelle has no world view outside of this vote park.
I hate that so far today you have started to make sense to me.
I'm worried if I'm going insane from being near you, or if you are getting more sane.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:22 am
by MafiaMenace
alexa wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:12 pm also obligatory im not the serial killer or whatever
i did not make either of those kills
sort of derpslipped because wilgy probs died because he didnt get his wincon

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:23 am
by MafiaMenace
Paopan wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:41 pm Well. The good news is... Falcon is town
There's that. Any info coming from him is to be true.
LOL nice one paopan

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:24 am
by MafiaMenace
Paopan wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:48 pm With the Scotty flip... is very surprising. He's like, one of my town lean on day 1.

I really need to re-assess my judgment on everyone around here.

I knew day 1 is going to be a fluff. In any case, if Falcon gives info. It's sure to be true.
also counterclaims said townlean lol

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:24 am
by LinearPoint
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:21 am Ok, Linear, how do you feel about killing JoH today?
Well I was feeling he was a bit sus early day 1, he got a bit better to be neutral by the end, but day 2 he hasn't contirbuted anything.
So my best read of him is "meh, he exists but isn't really doing anything" so I guess yeah I'd be fine with his lynch.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:25 am
by NotAnAxehole
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:22 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:20 am Michelle has no world view outside of this vote park.
I hate that so far today you have started to make sense to me.
I'm worried if I'm going insane from being near you, or if you are getting more sane.
Just par for the course of getting to know StarV

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:25 am
by LinearPoint
To be fair though Sig and Ruri are right next to Jack in the amount of contribution.
So really I'm feeling any one of those 3 at the moment.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:25 am
by MafiaMenace
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:44 am
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:43 am
alexa wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:04 pm why didn't mafia target the actual cop claims wtf
also reports??
I assume SK killed the SK Cop, just a theory.
Probably.
mr. “theres no sks”

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:27 am
by NotAnAxehole
MafiaMenace wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:25 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:44 am
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:43 am
alexa wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:04 pm why didn't mafia target the actual cop claims wtf
also reports??
I assume SK killed the SK Cop, just a theory.
Probably.
mr. “theres no sks”
Yeah, isolated thoughts. SK just throws off the balance too much imo

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:28 am
by NotAnAxehole
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:25 am To be fair though Sig and Ruri are right next to Jack in the amount of contribution.
So really I'm feeling any one of those 3 at the moment.
Sig ruri jack at most contains 2 mafia based on SoA's claim. We agree?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:29 am
by MafiaMenace
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:21 am No offense, but wouldn't it be better to use them early so you don't risk dying?
I mean I guess we know there is a Doctor now, but still.
if i want to make a stupid argument i would say there would probably have been a prot role anyway in a 17p potential sk bastard game which is probably why mafia wouldnt shoot me

or they dont shoot me because im pretty weak /shrug

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:30 am
by MafiaMenace
man if alexa had another shot we wouldnt have to deal with axe lol

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:31 am
by NotAnAxehole
MafiaMenace wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:30 am man if alexa had another shot we wouldnt have to deal with axe lol
We are presuming that Alexa did have a shot used in Mac

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:32 am
by LinearPoint
Seeing as ever single informative role checked dead people or didn't act last night we have pretty much only Scotty to go off of for reads.
Unfortunately he barely spoke about any of those 3.

He jokingly said when I commented about Jack and Ruri that I was giving them a pass for being Mafia with me which could be a hint that they are Mafia.

He also said he jokingly voted Sig for scum reading him.

Finally he had a slight scum read on Jack at the start of day 1 for being mostly inactive.

Other than those iterations Scotty avoiding talking about those 3.
Gut says at least 1 maybe 2 are his partners though.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:32 am
by MafiaMenace
[VOTE: Ruri] aubergine
heres comfortable
bye

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:33 am
by LinearPoint
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:28 am
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:25 am To be fair though Sig and Ruri are right next to Jack in the amount of contribution.
So really I'm feeling any one of those 3 at the moment.
Sig ruri jack at most contains 2 mafia based on SoA's claim. We agree?
I didn't even read this, stop reading my mind as I am typing.
It's weird.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:35 am
by NotAnAxehole
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:33 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:28 am
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:25 am To be fair though Sig and Ruri are right next to Jack in the amount of contribution.
So really I'm feeling any one of those 3 at the moment.
Sig ruri jack at most contains 2 mafia based on SoA's claim. We agree?
I didn't even read this, stop reading my mind as I am typing.
It's weird.
Yeah, it's just the obvious conclusion which means we are looking for a mafia and a third party outside of that trio.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:35 am
by NotAnAxehole
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:35 am
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:33 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:28 am
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:25 am To be fair though Sig and Ruri are right next to Jack in the amount of contribution.
So really I'm feeling any one of those 3 at the moment.
Sig ruri jack at most contains 2 mafia based on SoA's claim. We agree?
I didn't even read this, stop reading my mind as I am typing.
It's weird.
Yeah, it's just the obvious conclusion which means we are looking for a mafia and a third party outside of that trio.
At least

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:36 am
by LinearPoint
At this point I'm leaning on the 3rd party not being SK, so they are probably just a Survivor or something. At least I don't think a Traitor counts as 3rd party so that pretty much leaves a survivor-like role.
I wouldn't really worry about them at the moment.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:37 am
by NotAnAxehole
I also have a hard time believing the coincidence that 2/2 investigatives kind of fumbled last night.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:38 am
by NotAnAxehole
I could see a world where mafia told paopan to dumb tell as much as possible, and he cc'd Scotty after Scotty was dead to Rights which gives him cred for something he didn't contribute to really.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:39 am
by LinearPoint
Honestly yeah, the only thing that gets me with Paopan is that I think he came into day 2 wanting to claim Lie Detector and Scotty panic claimed Lie Detector.
Not only that, but he claimed Paopan's results which might have been posted in Mafia Chat as I've seen some hosts do that.
It's possible Scotty was planning on claimign Lie Detector and just using Paopan as a proxy for his results, but Paopan didn't read and accidentally CC'd his own partner.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:40 am
by NotAnAxehole
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:39 am Honestly yeah, the only thing that gets me with Paopan is that I think he came into day 2 wanting to claim Lie Detector and Scotty panic claimed Lie Detector.
Not only that, but he claimed Paopan's results which might have been posted in Mafia Chat as I've seen some hosts do that.
It's possible Scotty was planning on claimign Lie Detector and just using Paopan as a proxy for his results, but Paopan didn't read and accidentally CC'd his own partner.
Ok, you don't believe my 3rd party claim because you're 3rs party yeah?

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:41 am
by NotAnAxehole
Which means we believe SoA

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:41 am
by LinearPoint
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:40 am
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:39 am Honestly yeah, the only thing that gets me with Paopan is that I think he came into day 2 wanting to claim Lie Detector and Scotty panic claimed Lie Detector.
Not only that, but he claimed Paopan's results which might have been posted in Mafia Chat as I've seen some hosts do that.
It's possible Scotty was planning on claimign Lie Detector and just using Paopan as a proxy for his results, but Paopan didn't read and accidentally CC'd his own partner.
Ok, you don't believe my 3rd party claim because you're 3rs party yeah?
I think that is unlikely.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:42 am
by NotAnAxehole
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:41 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:40 am
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:39 am Honestly yeah, the only thing that gets me with Paopan is that I think he came into day 2 wanting to claim Lie Detector and Scotty panic claimed Lie Detector.
Not only that, but he claimed Paopan's results which might have been posted in Mafia Chat as I've seen some hosts do that.
It's possible Scotty was planning on claimign Lie Detector and just using Paopan as a proxy for his results, but Paopan didn't read and accidentally CC'd his own partner.
Ok, you don't believe my 3rd party claim because you're 3rs party yeah?
I think that is unlikely.
Ok, well then I reclaim my jester status.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:43 am
by LinearPoint
You can have that, besides even if I were a 3rd Party that could win with Town I wouldn't ever admit that.
It's no fun that way.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:44 am
by NotAnAxehole
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:43 am You can have that, besides even if I were a 3rd Party that could win with Town I wouldn't ever admit that.
It's no fun that way.
Right, well, even if I was the Jester... I certainly would tell you repeatedly.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:45 am
by LinearPoint
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:44 am
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:43 am You can have that, besides even if I were a 3rd Party that could win with Town I wouldn't ever admit that.
It's no fun that way.
Right, well, even if I was the Jester... I certainly would tell you repeatedly.
And I'd expect no lesst jest.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:46 am
by Paopan
I'm okay on taking today's lynch as long as we can solve who's who.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:48 am
by LinearPoint
You are an interesting person with unique choices that I cannot fully comprehend just yet.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:50 am
by LinearPoint
Fuck it, i'm going with gut and actually following NAA of this for god knows why.
I just have a feeling that Ruri and/or Jack are Mafia based on Scotty's day 1 and leaning more on Jack.

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:50 am
by NotAnAxehole
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:48 am You are an interesting person with unique choices that I cannot fully comprehend just yet.
I think surrender is normal for new town players who don't fully understand that dying as town is bad. The same player is likely to fight more or at least not concede as mafia because people think dying as town doesn't matter. it's a common Syndicate town strat actually (I see JJJ cringe every time I post this)

Re: Fortune of Lies [Day 3]

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:52 am
by LinearPoint
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:50 am
LinearPoint wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:48 am You are an interesting person with unique choices that I cannot fully comprehend just yet.
I think surrender is normal for new town players who don't fully understand that dying as town is bad. The same player is likely to fight more or at least not concede as mafia because people think dying as town doesn't matter. it's a common Syndicate town strat actually (I see JJJ cringe every time I post this)
I agree, just trying to think if he is actualyl intentionally doing that.
TBH from MafiaScum I remember this type of play to be explicitly (intentional or not) banable so it's interesting actually seeing it.