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Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:33 pm
by leetic
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:31 pm
i have gotten the impression that jagged is struggling to make more holistically focused posts - he posts a lot of observations that generally Sound Good, but i am finding it more difficult than usual to see how those observations inform and shape his worldview, and i feel like i am unable to see the gears moving in his brain in a similar way that ive seen them move in previous games. when im a wolf, i know that i struggle to make posts with a "wide" scope, and i have theorized that jagged is a wolf going through a similar struggle. i don't think he's the most optimal d1 chop, though
I've been seeing a bit of hedginess from you, too - can you give me a list of reads you feel confident on?
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:33 pm
by cassandra
[VOTE:
JJJ] aubergine
tbh this has felt the best.
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:33 pm
by Marmot
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:31 pm
i have gotten the impression that jagged is struggling to make more holistically focused posts - he posts a lot of observations that generally Sound Good, but i am finding it more difficult than usual to see how those observations inform and shape his worldview, and i feel like i am unable to see the gears moving in his brain in a similar way that ive seen them move in previous games. when im a wolf, i know that i struggle to make posts with a "wide" scope, and i have theorized that jagged is a wolf going through a similar struggle. i don't think he's the most optimal d1 chop, though
I'd flashwagon JJJ today.
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:33 pm
by Lime Coke
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:33 pm
Wanting of flipping Anne. Ising trusting of Nutella.
If Anne flips green can you shoot Nutella?
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:34 pm
by leetic
cassandra wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:32 pm
don't vote MR imo
Why not? Better shot than Anne in my estimation
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:34 pm
by nutella
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:41 pm
if falcon/mac are town/town then i am sort of skeptical of nutella/jay in particular
anne being w clears nutella in my worldview tho, i just personally dont currently think anne is w (open to being wrong tho)
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:44 pm
anne wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:35 pm
i have no real scum reads so yeah don't ask me for that and generally don't feel motivated
anne wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:34 pm
ngl this game is kinda bad, not feeling it
anne wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:09 pm
im also not having fun in this thread although it may seem like it, i think the vibe is uncomfortable to be fully honest. i feel compelled to post though because early day 1 is the easiest time to for me
idk i just read these as the real town version
also her mild suspicion of spf into dropping it felt sorta real
and the way she just stopped playing at 3 townreads and sheeping us onto naa felt real
ive seen demotivated scum anne (in jack town) and it looked different iirc
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:46 pm
its a pretty low confidence townread and like anne flipping wouldnt be the end of the world and her flipping red would be a boon to town but
personally i still find naa less towny?
idk how to read naa tbh
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:13 pm
I'm busy and I don't really feel like moving, the vague townvibes I get from Anne/Mr make me wanna stay on NAA but I'm honestly ok with any flip and I don't feel too strongly.
gl team (will still be sort of here but heavily distracted)
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:14 pm
oh also in case I forgot to say this by eod
nk me I'll flip vanilla it'll be hilarious
Idk maybe I'm crazy but lol
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:34 pm
by Marmot
Never mind, flashwagoning spf instead
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:34 pm
by cassandra
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:34 pm
cassandra wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:32 pm
don't vote MR imo
Why not? Better shot than Anne in my estimation
i thought his opening posts were towny
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:35 pm
by Lime Coke
[VOTE:
JJJ] aubergine
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:35 pm
by ilario
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:33 pm
Wanting of flipping Anne. Ising trusting of Nutella.
If it’s between u and Anne I’m picking u to die lol
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:35 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
If we're gonna flash wagon someone it should be budget jay not actual jay
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:35 pm
by ilario
Alexa don’t waste ur vote
I don’t disagree with it but there’s no chance he’s going over today
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:35 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Vlte sloonei
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:35 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Now sheep me
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
by leetic
Of all the players who are being excessively hedgy nutella worries me the most. Town nutella often provides an extremely confident demeanor, even on reads she is dead wrong on.
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
by Lime Coke
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:35 pm
If we're gonna flash wagon someone it should be budget jay not actual jay
What if budget Jay claimed 1 shot vig?
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
by staypositivefriend
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:33 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:31 pm
i have gotten the impression that jagged is struggling to make more holistically focused posts - he posts a lot of observations that generally Sound Good, but i am finding it more difficult than usual to see how those observations inform and shape his worldview, and i feel like i am unable to see the gears moving in his brain in a similar way that ive seen them move in previous games. when im a wolf, i know that i struggle to make posts with a "wide" scope, and i have theorized that jagged is a wolf going through a similar struggle. i don't think he's the most optimal d1 chop, though
I've been seeing a bit of hedginess from you, too - can you give me a list of reads you feel confident on?
yes. i think that you, illario, cassandra, marmot, and lime coke are all villagers.
i think that nutella, falcon, and iaafr are also villagers with slightly less confidence. (if there's a wolf in there, it's probably iaafr.) i'm hedging because i'm making a point to talk specifically about the players that i don't have a good grasp on
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
by Lime Coke
Oh that's what you meant.
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
by Marmot
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:34 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:41 pm
if falcon/mac are town/town then i am sort of skeptical of nutella/jay in particular
anne being w clears nutella in my worldview tho, i just personally dont currently think anne is w (open to being wrong tho)
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:44 pm
anne wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:35 pm
i have no real scum reads so yeah don't ask me for that and generally don't feel motivated
anne wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:34 pm
ngl this game is kinda bad, not feeling it
anne wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:09 pm
im also not having fun in this thread although it may seem like it, i think the vibe is uncomfortable to be fully honest. i feel compelled to post though because early day 1 is the easiest time to for me
idk i just read these as the real town version
also her mild suspicion of spf into dropping it felt sorta real
and the way she just stopped playing at 3 townreads and sheeping us onto naa felt real
ive seen demotivated scum anne (in jack town) and it looked different iirc
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:46 pm
its a pretty low confidence townread and like anne flipping wouldnt be the end of the world and her flipping red would be a boon to town but
personally i still find naa less towny?
idk how to read naa tbh
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:13 pm
I'm busy and I don't really feel like moving, the vague townvibes I get from Anne/Mr make me wanna stay on NAA but I'm honestly ok with any flip and I don't feel too strongly.
gl team (will still be sort of here but heavily distracted)
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:14 pm
oh also in case I forgot to say this by eod
nk me I'll flip vanilla it'll be hilarious
Idk maybe I'm crazy but lol
Thanks for pointing that out, the second post jumped out to me when I read it, but I forgot about it in the
turbulence.
I'd also rather vote iaafr than Anne under those circumstances.
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
by ilario
Wtf how is MR a wagon too? Bro what is this town
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
by ilario
I hope I get nightkilled
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
by cassandra
TOWN:
ilario/leetic
iaafr
Lime Coke
Marmot
nutella
SPF
LIGHT TOWN:
NOOK
Dyslexicon
MR
POE:
falcon (barring mech stuff??)
Mac
JJJ
Sloonei
DrWilgy
NAA
idk where to put anne tbh.
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
by leetic
Not the biggest fan of Sloonei's contributions and he has partner equity with MR but should we really vote an inactive? That is never a good idea D1
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:35 pm
If we're gonna flash wagon someone it should be budget jay not actual jay
What if budget Jay claimed 1 shot vig?
If sloon claimed one shot vig I'd go back to wilgy
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
by cassandra
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:35 pm
Alexa don’t waste ur vote
I don’t disagree with it but there’s no chance he’s going over today
fine
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
by Lime Coke
[VOTE:
MR] aubergine
Blehhhh
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
by Marmot
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
Of all the players who are being excessively hedgy nutella worries me the most. Town nutella often provides an extremely confident demeanor, even on reads she is dead wrong on.
Did you post this before or after nutella's case on iaafr/anne?
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
by nutella
I mean also just alexas restatement of the meta stuff and annes look at me im town posts solidify my vote
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
by iaafr
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
Wtf how is MR a wagon too? Bro what is this town
i kinda get you but at the same time i dont really get you
mr has posted some wolfy stuff and mainly it was his entrance + random theory arguments + attitude that felt villagery
youre struggling with forming wolfreads too so idk how you act like youre better
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
by Lime Coke
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:35 pm
If we're gonna flash wagon someone it should be budget jay not actual jay
What if budget Jay claimed 1 shot vig?
If sloon claimed one shot vig I'd go back to wilgy
I was talking Wilgy claimed vig.
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
by cassandra
dude the CWs rn are anne and MR though wtf.
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
by leetic
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
Wtf how is MR a wagon too? Bro what is this town
You weren't there for his scummiest moments but looking at Marmot's post is a start
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:38 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
Not the biggest fan of Sloonei's contributions and he has partner equity with MR but should we really vote an inactive? That is never a good idea D1
Woops, you have different ideas about playing mafia, now I gotta kill you. Sorry bud, those are the rules
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:38 pm
by iaafr
you know the mr wagon formed like in response to a marmot case right?
its not just a shrug
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:38 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:35 pm
If we're gonna flash wagon someone it should be budget jay not actual jay
What if budget Jay claimed 1 shot vig?
If sloon claimed one shot vig I'd go back to wilgy
I was talking Wilgy claimed vig.
Oh sorry budget jay is sloon lol
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:38 pm
by leetic
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
Of all the players who are being excessively hedgy nutella worries me the most. Town nutella often provides an extremely confident demeanor, even on reads she is dead wrong on.
Did you post this before or after nutella's case on iaafr/anne?
After, but it's a general feeling I've been having throughout today
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:38 pm
by cassandra
[VOTE:
DRWILGY] aubergine
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:39 pm
by Lime Coke
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:38 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:35 pm
If we're gonna flash wagon someone it should be budget jay not actual jay
What if budget Jay claimed 1 shot vig?
If sloon claimed one shot vig I'd go back to wilgy
I was talking Wilgy claimed vig.
Oh sorry budget jay is sloon lol
Yeah I didn't realize what you were talking about lmao.
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:39 pm
by cassandra
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:38 pm
you know the mr wagon formed like in response to a marmot case right?
its not just a shrug
can someone quote this
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:39 pm
by ilario
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
Wtf how is MR a wagon too? Bro what is this town
i kinda get you but at the same time i dont really get you
mr has posted some wolfy stuff and mainly it was his entrance + random theory arguments + attitude that felt villagery
youre struggling with forming wolfreads too so idk how you act like youre better
Yes I’m struggling too but I’m not voting people who projected actual towniness. Yes it’s true he only had 2 towny posts buts that’s still 2 more towny posts than a lot of people
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:39 pm
by leetic
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:38 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
Not the biggest fan of Sloonei's contributions and he has partner equity with MR but should we really vote an inactive? That is never a good idea D1
Woops, you have different ideas about playing mafia, now I gotta kill you. Sorry bud, those are the rules
Don't be a smart ass, answer my questions
Why would you think a vote on an inactive is optimal for today?
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:40 pm
by iaafr
maybe i just flip anne so that i get to tdome nutella tomorrow if anne's actually w
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:40 pm
by Lime Coke
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:24 pm
Can people look over these MR posts with me? I think this is a wolf.
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:01 am
Mac's story doesn't feel like a lie? When mafia lie about mechanics they tend to either keep it simple ('I'm a cop') or overly complex ('I'm a cop on Nights that fall within the fibonacci sequence but I only get a result if its a 3P who has activated their ability and I get a double cop on N1'). Mac's story is specific in a different way ('after 26 hours I got fed up and used it') that is unlikely to be fabricated.
Or it is just a clever lie I guess, which is also a possibility because uh we're starting to reach peak 'confirmed town' in a game that's supposedly not bastard, so I can only imagine the power Mafia have here.
This is MR's response to Mac/falcon's claim. He immediately followed it up with a vote for Anne.
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:57 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:30 pm
How is Anne better than NAA? In what ways is Anne scummy to you?
Dunno but I'm sure I'll think of reasons eventually.
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:39 pm
I don't like any of the current wagons. I didn't intend to sit on my vanity wagon but I may just do it anyway.
This is a lazy read for someone who has been putting forth some effort. 42 posts thus far. The timing of it with Mac's claim, the lack of reasoning behind it (even up to this point), and given that he's interacted with several other players since, I'm surprised his vote is still here.
@cassandra
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:40 pm
by leetic
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:39 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
Wtf how is MR a wagon too? Bro what is this town
i kinda get you but at the same time i dont really get you
mr has posted some wolfy stuff and mainly it was his entrance + random theory arguments + attitude that felt villagery
youre struggling with forming wolfreads too so idk how you act like youre better
Yes I’m struggling too but I’m not voting people who projected actual towniness. Yes it’s true he only had 2 towny posts buts that’s still 2 more towny posts than a lot of people
Can you show his two supposedly towny posts?
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:40 pm
by staypositivefriend
who do u wanna kill, illario?
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:40 pm
by ilario
Okay yeah I didn’t see marmots case tbh but idk man I just don’t like voting people who aren’t around to defend themselves
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:40 pm
by iaafr
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:39 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
Wtf how is MR a wagon too? Bro what is this town
i kinda get you but at the same time i dont really get you
mr has posted some wolfy stuff and mainly it was his entrance + random theory arguments + attitude that felt villagery
youre struggling with forming wolfreads too so idk how you act like youre better
Yes I’m struggling too but I’m not voting people who projected actual towniness. Yes it’s true he only had 2 towny posts buts that’s still 2 more towny posts than a lot of people
can you list your pool of never-towntold-in-your-eyes players? im sure its in your iso but navigating on this sites kind of annoying
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:40 pm
by leetic
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:40 pm
maybe i just flip anne so that i get to tdome nutella tomorrow if anne's actually w
Do you think Anne's scummy?
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:41 pm
by ilario
Wilgy for the gimmick and I don’t like his reads
Jjj for scummy votes
Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:41 pm
by Lime Coke
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:39 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:37 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 pm
Wtf how is MR a wagon too? Bro what is this town
i kinda get you but at the same time i dont really get you
mr has posted some wolfy stuff and mainly it was his entrance + random theory arguments + attitude that felt villagery
youre struggling with forming wolfreads too so idk how you act like youre better
Yes I’m struggling too but I’m not voting people who projected actual towniness. Yes it’s true he only had 2 towny posts buts that’s still 2 more towny posts than a lot of people
I'm voting people who aren't in my town list so yeah.