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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:54 pm
by LinearPoint
Gavial wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:53 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:52 pm I mean honestly Sniper is just super destructive even if it is Town.
They are pretty much guaranteed to kill Town.
:mafia:
Unless of course it’s given to a god tier mafia player that’s town aligned.
OK, but what if they are NAA level and only kill Town.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:54 pm
by Gavial
Guillotine wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:53 pm I gotta work in 10 minutes.

Hmm

Could be Wolves

One in Falcon/Gavial
One in Gavial/Sig
NotAnAxehole
MartinGG99
One in Nanook/Dolby/Tony

Im shooting someone there tonight.

Good luck
Your me/Sig is wrong, Falcon is wolf though your correct on that.

TSP, Falcon, Nanook and Sabie make allot of senseS

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:55 pm
by MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:52 pm ok I have made some bad jumps in logic, but I thought the red pyro since no one entered martin's base and if it's not sabie then they're outed once we mass claim
this is probably role fishing

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:55 pm
by Gavial
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:54 pm
Gavial wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:53 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:52 pm I mean honestly Sniper is just super destructive even if it is Town.
They are pretty much guaranteed to kill Town.
:mafia:
Unless of course it’s given to a god tier mafia player that’s town aligned.
OK, but what if they are NAA level and only kill Town.
What if there someone like Lime Coke, Dolby or Me?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:56 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
mac i once again encourage you to read the setup

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:56 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Guillotine wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:53 pm I gotta work in 10 minutes.

Hmm

Could be Wolves

One in Falcon/Gavial
One in Gavial/Sig
NotAnAxehole
MartinGG99
One in Nanook/Dolby/Tony

Im shooting someone there tonight.

Good luck
Good luck with that 😂

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:56 pm
by LinearPoint
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:55 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:52 pm ok I have made some bad jumps in logic, but I thought the red pyro since no one entered martin's base and if it's not sabie then they're outed once we mass claim
this is probably role fishing
Is rolefishing an outed Mafia really bad though?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:56 pm
by Gavial
The point is the role is basically Vigilante.
Great for Town as well as Mafia.
Doesn’t mean you should kill anyone who claims it.
(Unless it’s TSP, that’s fine.)

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:56 pm
by MacDougall
Dolby wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:32 pm eh I'll

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

adding a second vote does nothing bad if he's town right?
Dolby is mafia

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:56 pm
by LinearPoint
Gavial wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:55 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:54 pm
Gavial wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:53 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:52 pm I mean honestly Sniper is just super destructive even if it is Town.
They are pretty much guaranteed to kill Town.
:mafia:
Unless of course it’s given to a god tier mafia player that’s town aligned.
OK, but what if they are NAA level and only kill Town.
What if there someone like Lime Coke, Dolby or Me?
I have trust issues.
Unless I roll Vig, all Vig are bad.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:57 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:55 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:52 pm ok I have made some bad jumps in logic, but I thought the red pyro since no one entered martin's base and if it's not sabie then they're outed once we mass claim
this is probably role fishing
literally we were forcing claims Mac

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:57 pm
by MacDougall
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:55 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:52 pm ok I have made some bad jumps in logic, but I thought the red pyro since no one entered martin's base and if it's not sabie then they're outed once we mass claim
this is probably role fishing
Is rolefishing an outed Mafia really bad though?
the suggestion is he's trying to get the actual red pyro to claim

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:57 pm
by Gavial
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:56 pm mac i once again encourage you to read the setup
He doesn’t even read the game.
He thinks I’m actually wolf when Falcon literally straight out lied straight out in public thread.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
mac not reading the setup is wolf indicative and he's gonna say something mean about this post but like ok

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm
by Guillotine
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:56 pm
Guillotine wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:53 pm I gotta work in 10 minutes.

Hmm

Could be Wolves

One in Falcon/Gavial
One in Gavial/Sig
NotAnAxehole
MartinGG99
One in Nanook/Dolby/Tony

Im shooting someone there tonight.

Good luck
Good luck with that 😂
If your vote is some sort of roleblock and i cant kill my target im chopping you tomorrow with all my might. Im off tomorrow.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm
by LinearPoint
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:57 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:55 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:52 pm ok I have made some bad jumps in logic, but I thought the red pyro since no one entered martin's base and if it's not sabie then they're outed once we mass claim
this is probably role fishing
Is rolefishing an outed Mafia really bad though?
the suggestion is he's trying to get the actual red pyro to claim
Wouldn't that imply that he knows Wiggly is Blue Pyro and Blue Pyro is Mafia with him though?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm
by MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:55 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:52 pm ok I have made some bad jumps in logic, but I thought the red pyro since no one entered martin's base and if it's not sabie then they're outed once we mass claim
this is probably role fishing
literally we were forcing claims Mac
thats all well and good but you're obviously mafia anyway

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:57 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:55 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:52 pm ok I have made some bad jumps in logic, but I thought the red pyro since no one entered martin's base and if it's not sabie then they're outed once we mass claim
this is probably role fishing
Is rolefishing an outed Mafia really bad though?
the suggestion is he's trying to get the actual red pyro to claim
yes because the red pyro is an outed wolf

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Is it time to CFD?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
alternatively you're the red pyro and haven't read any of the game, which i can respect

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:59 pm
by LinearPoint
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm Is it time to CFD?
No it's time for you to stop.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:59 pm
by MacDougall
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:57 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:55 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:52 pm ok I have made some bad jumps in logic, but I thought the red pyro since no one entered martin's base and if it's not sabie then they're outed once we mass claim
this is probably role fishing
Is rolefishing an outed Mafia really bad though?
the suggestion is he's trying to get the actual red pyro to claim
Wouldn't that imply that he knows Wiggly is Blue Pyro and Blue Pyro is Mafia with him though?
okay so I have no idea what a pyro is or why you mentioned wilgy here

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:59 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Gavial wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:57 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:56 pm mac i once again encourage you to read the setup
He doesn’t even read the game.
He thinks I’m actually wolf when Falcon literally straight out lied straight out in public thread.
what did falcon say

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:59 pm
by MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm alternatively you're the red pyro and haven't read any of the game, which i can respect
half of this is accurate

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:59 pm
by NotAnAxehole
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:59 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm Is it time to CFD?
No it's time for you to stop.
:biggrin:

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:00 pm
by MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:59 pm
Gavial wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:57 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:56 pm mac i once again encourage you to read the setup
He doesn’t even read the game.
He thinks I’m actually wolf when Falcon literally straight out lied straight out in public thread.
gavial is mafia btw
what did falcon say

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:00 pm
by LinearPoint
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:59 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:57 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:55 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:52 pm ok I have made some bad jumps in logic, but I thought the red pyro since no one entered martin's base and if it's not sabie then they're outed once we mass claim
this is probably role fishing
Is rolefishing an outed Mafia really bad though?
the suggestion is he's trying to get the actual red pyro to claim
Wouldn't that imply that he knows Wiggly is Blue Pyro and Blue Pyro is Mafia with him though?
okay so I have no idea what a pyro is or why you mentioned wilgy here
So you don't think TSP and Wiggly are a Mafia team?
If they aren't a team TSP can't be rolefishing scum.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:00 pm
by MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm mac not reading the setup is wolf indicative and he's gonna say something mean about this post but like ok
uh it's the opposite literally always

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:01 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm mac not reading the setup is wolf indicative and he's gonna say something mean about this post but like ok
uh it's the opposite literally always
tbh it might be NAI but I'm currently upset about it but I'm saying it's wolf-indicative

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:01 pm
by MacDougall
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:00 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:59 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:57 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:55 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:52 pm ok I have made some bad jumps in logic, but I thought the red pyro since no one entered martin's base and if it's not sabie then they're outed once we mass claim
this is probably role fishing
Is rolefishing an outed Mafia really bad though?
the suggestion is he's trying to get the actual red pyro to claim
Wouldn't that imply that he knows Wiggly is Blue Pyro and Blue Pyro is Mafia with him though?
okay so I have no idea what a pyro is or why you mentioned wilgy here
So you don't think TSP and Wiggly are a Mafia team?
If they aren't a team TSP can't be rolefishing scum.
the answer to the first question depends on the how of the latter statement

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:02 pm
by MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm mac not reading the setup is wolf indicative and he's gonna say something mean about this post but like ok
uh it's the opposite literally always
tbh it might be NAI but I'm currently upset about it but I'm saying it's wolf-indicative
no it's town indicative because as a wolf I absolutely read setups so I don't get caught and accused for dumb shit like not reading the setup

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:02 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
anyways mac the point is the red pyro is theoretically outed and sabie is definitely outed so I was noting that it would make sense if sabie was the red pyro and this is not rolefishing and etc etc etc

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:02 pm
by MacDougall
I'd like to just point out that while we are all talking shit Dolby is outed mafia

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:03 pm
by MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:02 pm anyways mac the point is the red pyro is theoretically outed and sabie is definitely outed so I was noting that it would make sense if sabie was the red pyro and this is not rolefishing and etc etc etc
this makes sense but also you're mafia

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:03 pm
by MacDougall
mafia

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:03 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:02 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm mac not reading the setup is wolf indicative and he's gonna say something mean about this post but like ok
uh it's the opposite literally always
tbh it might be NAI but I'm currently upset about it but I'm saying it's wolf-indicative
no it's town indicative because as a wolf I absolutely read setups so I don't get caught and accused for dumb shit like not reading the setup
i refuse to admit the accuracy of this statement because it goes against the reality i wish to live in

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:04 pm
by MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:03 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:02 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:58 pm mac not reading the setup is wolf indicative and he's gonna say something mean about this post but like ok
uh it's the opposite literally always
tbh it might be NAI but I'm currently upset about it but I'm saying it's wolf-indicative
no it's town indicative because as a wolf I absolutely read setups so I don't get caught and accused for dumb shit like not reading the setup
i refuse to admit the accuracy of this statement because it goes against the reality i wish to live in
thats fair

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:04 pm
by NotAnAxehole
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:02 pm I'd like to just point out that while we are all talking shit Dolby is outed mafia
You're trying to sway me off of my Dolby read, aren't you?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:04 pm
by MacDougall
ok so why is red pyro outed mafia and why is wilgy only ever mafia with tsp?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:05 pm
by Dolby
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:02 pm I'd like to just point out that while we are all talking shit Dolby is outed mafia
vote me you coward

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:05 pm
by MacDougall
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:04 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:02 pm I'd like to just point out that while we are all talking shit Dolby is outed mafia
You're trying to sway me off of my Dolby read, aren't you?
i don't pay attention to your posts unless you speak to me directly on account of every post you make being nai

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:05 pm
by falcon45ca
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:02 pm I'd like to just point out that while we are all talking shit Dolby is outed mafia
Yeah maybe

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:06 pm
by Dolby
I think that Mac saw some posts of mine and determined I'd be a good push target then didn't try to provide justification

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:06 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:04 pm ok so why is red pyro outed mafia and why is wilgy only ever mafia with tsp?
there was a plan by which the pyros, which are basically just pro-mafia wrt mech solving, would enter the engineers bases, securing them as publically role blocked. Martin, the red engineer, revealed that the red pyro did not enter his base. this essentially outs the red pyro as (realistically) not reading but as (ideally) mafia

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:06 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
and i have no clue what the thing is with wilgy tbh but I'm letting it slide

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:06 pm
by MacDougall
do we have two chops today or something? why is there conjecture about where to vote idgi?

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:07 pm
by LinearPoint
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:04 pm ok so why is red pyro outed mafia and why is wilgy only ever mafia with tsp?
Well for TSP to be Mafia fishing for Red Pyro, that means Blue Pyro has to be Mafia.
If Blue Pyro is Mafia, then it has to be Wiggly who already claimed Pyro.
TSP wouldn't need to fish for Red Pyro if he already knew it was Wiggly.
So logically, TSP only fishes for Red Pyro knowing Blue Pyro is Mafia and Blue Pyro is already known to him which is Wiggly who has to be Blue Pyro.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:07 pm
by MacDougall
Dolby wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:06 pm I think that Mac saw some posts of mine and determined I'd be a good push target then didn't try to provide justification
I saw some posts of yours and determined you'd be a good push target and provided justification in the form of quoting said posts... actually

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:09 pm
by MacDougall
LinearPoint wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:07 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:04 pm ok so why is red pyro outed mafia and why is wilgy only ever mafia with tsp?
Well for TSP to be Mafia fishing for Red Pyro, that means Blue Pyro has to be Mafia.
If Blue Pyro is Mafia, then it has to be Wiggly who already claimed Pyro.
TSP wouldn't need to fish for Red Pyro if he already knew it was Wiggly.
So logically, TSP only fishes for Red Pyro knowing Blue Pyro is Mafia and Blue Pyro is already known to him which is Wiggly who has to be Blue Pyro.
ok and is wilgy like green checked or anything? cuz this seems plausible to me.

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:09 pm
by LinearPoint
So like TSP is only even rolefishing Mafia here is and only if Wiggly is a Mafia Blue Pyro.