Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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@alexaLime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:18 amI think he was seeing what I was doing and realized you weren't a viable ML anymore and just gave up and townread you.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:14 amyeah, this is part of the reason why i was reluctant to wolfread wilgy on d1, because i was under the impression that he would be more likely to encourage the T/T violence between you and me instead of trying to convince you that i was town. it was TMI that would be so brazen and so unbeneficial for the wolfteam that i figured it was >rand likely to be coming from a villagerLime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:07 amLime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:44 pmThere were a bit of times that I was kind of wavering in my tunnel on her, specifically the "you shouldn't have to be townreading me to try to work with me since that puts you into a conf-bias" post. Plus Alison mentioning that SPF responding with anger being town indicative for her is a decent point as well. At this rate I don't think she's mafia as much as I was last night.
I can't tell if it's me bitching out on scumreading her, or I was just wrong originally.
Also running out of confident enough options to vote out on Day 1.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:45 pmI saw one, and that was only because I re read. When in catch-up I'll often miss what was said while back reading until I get there.alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:41 pmzomg everyone's so towny
also his posts suck yet he has a lot of people townreading him for minor bad reasons which is >>>>rand wolf, and he hasn't answered my questioned about his dizzy read despite me pinging him multiple times
At this point I'll take back my SPF wolf lean. The interactions between SPF and LC were good.
What did stick out was your slight town lean on Falcon. Talk to me about that one Alexa.I think this was something that might've spewed SPF town? I remember making this post because Wilgy states "SPF is a scumread" then I respond to Alexa saying I don't scumread SPF anymore after what Alison says, then Wilgy just 180's his read on her.
Which was why I posted those two right after.
but reading wilgy's ISO through the lens of him just TMI'ing the fuck out of most people in this game, his insistence that you/me are T/T makes more sense
I didn't want to call it out at the time but I just planted that seed there in case he did flip wolf, which is probably something that's going to help town out way more than I was expecting it to.
hmm, could it have not been him trying to potentially get cred though as W/W if she was a wagon then reversing it after it didn't seem she was an option?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:05 pm@alexaLime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:18 amI think he was seeing what I was doing and realized you weren't a viable ML anymore and just gave up and townread you.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:14 amyeah, this is part of the reason why i was reluctant to wolfread wilgy on d1, because i was under the impression that he would be more likely to encourage the T/T violence between you and me instead of trying to convince you that i was town. it was TMI that would be so brazen and so unbeneficial for the wolfteam that i figured it was >rand likely to be coming from a villagerLime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:07 amLime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:44 pmThere were a bit of times that I was kind of wavering in my tunnel on her, specifically the "you shouldn't have to be townreading me to try to work with me since that puts you into a conf-bias" post. Plus Alison mentioning that SPF responding with anger being town indicative for her is a decent point as well. At this rate I don't think she's mafia as much as I was last night.
I can't tell if it's me bitching out on scumreading her, or I was just wrong originally.
Also running out of confident enough options to vote out on Day 1.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:45 pmI saw one, and that was only because I re read. When in catch-up I'll often miss what was said while back reading until I get there.
At this point I'll take back my SPF wolf lean. The interactions between SPF and LC were good.
What did stick out was your slight town lean on Falcon. Talk to me about that one Alexa.I think this was something that might've spewed SPF town? I remember making this post because Wilgy states "SPF is a scumread" then I respond to Alexa saying I don't scumread SPF anymore after what Alison says, then Wilgy just 180's his read on her.
Which was why I posted those two right after.
but reading wilgy's ISO through the lens of him just TMI'ing the fuck out of most people in this game, his insistence that you/me are T/T makes more sense
I didn't want to call it out at the time but I just planted that seed there in case he did flip wolf, which is probably something that's going to help town out way more than I was expecting it to.
i mean i'm saying read me based off my posts and if you think those are scummy, well, it's wrong, but it's still a better process than assuming i'm town because wilgy called me town
i'm typically a good spew reader even if there's nuanced reasons it can be combatted, so
It could easily be that as well. But I wouldn't think he'd be that blatant about it?alexa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:07 pmhmm, could it have not been him trying to potentially get cred though as W/W if she was a wagon then reversing it after it didn't seem she was an option?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:05 pm@alexaLime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:18 amI think he was seeing what I was doing and realized you weren't a viable ML anymore and just gave up and townread you.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:14 amyeah, this is part of the reason why i was reluctant to wolfread wilgy on d1, because i was under the impression that he would be more likely to encourage the T/T violence between you and me instead of trying to convince you that i was town. it was TMI that would be so brazen and so unbeneficial for the wolfteam that i figured it was >rand likely to be coming from a villagerLime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:07 amLime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:44 pmThere were a bit of times that I was kind of wavering in my tunnel on her, specifically the "you shouldn't have to be townreading me to try to work with me since that puts you into a conf-bias" post. Plus Alison mentioning that SPF responding with anger being town indicative for her is a decent point as well. At this rate I don't think she's mafia as much as I was last night.
I can't tell if it's me bitching out on scumreading her, or I was just wrong originally.
Also running out of confident enough options to vote out on Day 1.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:45 pmI saw one, and that was only because I re read. When in catch-up I'll often miss what was said while back reading until I get there.
At this point I'll take back my SPF wolf lean. The interactions between SPF and LC were good.
What did stick out was your slight town lean on Falcon. Talk to me about that one Alexa.I think this was something that might've spewed SPF town? I remember making this post because Wilgy states "SPF is a scumread" then I respond to Alexa saying I don't scumread SPF anymore after what Alison says, then Wilgy just 180's his read on her.
Which was why I posted those two right after.
but reading wilgy's ISO through the lens of him just TMI'ing the fuck out of most people in this game, his insistence that you/me are T/T makes more sense
I didn't want to call it out at the time but I just planted that seed there in case he did flip wolf, which is probably something that's going to help town out way more than I was expecting it to.
fwiw i think this thought from CRrichard is kind of towny, regardless of whether or not its correct. i imagine that the wolves would probably want to be injecting as much paranoia in the thread as possible at this stage in the game (particularly if the "consensus" POE is headed in the right direction), and this post effectively accomplishes the opposite of that. it might benefit CR to say this if their teammates were buried super deep but i still think it's kind of a towny observation to make in the first place
@alexa - where did dizzy soft PR??? i didnt see anything like that at all
this is a bad argument IMO because it assumes that we know why the wolves killed dizzy (when it easily could have been an attempt to hunt for PRs) but i dont really think it makes you wolfy
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:42 pm Nanook, you don’t have to worry about me. I’ll make you a cortado.
this might be hypocritical for me to say considering that i just posted a townread on crich myself, but i think it's kind of wolfy that this is dolby's only new thought coming into the day. a townread on CRrich is boring and uncontroversial at this point and: "his catchup is a pretty good look" is one of those things that wolves say when they want to make it look like theyre putting more thought into their reads than they actually are
why do you townread that post? i actually think that it's wolfy in conjunction with this:
falcon posting some vague and uncontroversial nonassociatives with wilgy and then saying "i'm interested in SPF/fingersplints" wagons feel like a pretty transparent attempt to powerwolf and push the game into the wrong direction, especially from the POV of knowing that im town. falcon hasnt interacted with any of my posts in this game and i dont believe that he actually scumreads me, and i think he might just be a wolf trying to keep a low presence and coast through as long as possiblefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:21 pmI do remember.CRichard wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:10 pmMerry Christmas!
On a more serious note, I haven't seen you much while I was backreading the thread.
Who do you think isn't paired with Wilgy fypov? Remember Akemi Homura?
Nook, Mac, Alexa right off the top of my head have poor partner equity w/ Wilgy.
I have postulated that Wilgy, rather than scum push his partner like he did w/ Gav, might be more inclined to TR his partner.
I'm interested in SPF/fingersplints wagons ATM
i also dont really like this lolfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:20 pm....this pings me a bit.
It's got a 'Josh, Gee Willikers' vibe if ya know what I mean
hope you feel better soonLime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:56 pmI have COVID and the allergy portion is making my eyes water so I can't look at the thread too well.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:20 pm....this pings me a bit.
It's got a 'Josh, Gee Willikers' vibe if ya know what I mean
tbh i think the stronger argument for why im town is how i treated wilgy as opposed to how wilgy treated me, but whatever gets you there ig
How FingerSplints treated you spews you town is a better argument.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:27 pmtbh i think the stronger argument for why im town is how i treated wilgy as opposed to how wilgy treated me, but whatever gets you there ig
at the time i said it i didn't even remember he voted wilgy so argument is moot regardlessstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:17 pmthis is a bad argument IMO because it assumes that we know why the wolves killed dizzy (when it easily could have been an attempt to hunt for PRs) but i dont really think it makes you wolfy
i don't knowstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:18 pm also, if there's a bus, who do you think bussed him? it seems unlikely to me that his wagon was entirely pure (particularly because, to my memory, the thread was super stagnant during the last hours of the EOD1 and wilgy getting killed was pretty much inevitable, so it would be weird if at least one wolf didn't jump on in an attempt to get townread) but i think: "there was a bus" is the type of read that's kind of empty if it isnt backed up with specific names
whatLime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:34 pmHow FingerSplints treated you spews you town is a better argument.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:27 pmtbh i think the stronger argument for why im town is how i treated wilgy as opposed to how wilgy treated me, but whatever gets you there ig
It's a joke.Gira wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:48 pmwhatLime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:34 pmHow FingerSplints treated you spews you town is a better argument.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:27 pmtbh i think the stronger argument for why im town is how i treated wilgy as opposed to how wilgy treated me, but whatever gets you there ig
mind talking about your townread on falcon more? i think that's the thing that made me the most concerned about you while catching up tbhGira wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:48 pmi don't knowstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:18 pm also, if there's a bus, who do you think bussed him? it seems unlikely to me that his wagon was entirely pure (particularly because, to my memory, the thread was super stagnant during the last hours of the EOD1 and wilgy getting killed was pretty much inevitable, so it would be weird if at least one wolf didn't jump on in an attempt to get townread) but i think: "there was a bus" is the type of read that's kind of empty if it isnt backed up with specific names
i'm bad at this
ystaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:56 pmmy GTH answer is that the dolby slot is a wolf and that nanook is town
because nanook pushed on wilgy on d1 in a way that looked explicitly non-aligned, and because he's been towny outside of that (minus his push on CRrichard, but whatever)MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:00 pmystaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:56 pmmy GTH answer is that the dolby slot is a wolf and that nanook is town
funny
still funny
If he's partnered with Gira or alexa it makes sense for him to push this, yeah?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:14 pmfwiw i think this thought from CRrichard is kind of towny, regardless of whether or not its correct. i imagine that the wolves would probably want to be injecting as much paranoia in the thread as possible at this stage in the game (particularly if the "consensus" POE is headed in the right direction), and this post effectively accomplishes the opposite of that. it might benefit CR to say this if their teammates were buried super deep but i still think it's kind of a towny observation to make in the first place
i also think that CR is town for emotional reasons that should be self-evident, but i feel dirty townreading him for that so im trying to substantiate my read with logic lol
Who do you townread now then?
with alexa maybe, but definitely not gira. gira is "consensus" POE at this point, so i don't think CR would be incentivized to push that angle if he was partnered with himNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:32 pmIf he's partnered with Gira or alexa it makes sense for him to push this, yeah?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:14 pmfwiw i think this thought from CRrichard is kind of towny, regardless of whether or not its correct. i imagine that the wolves would probably want to be injecting as much paranoia in the thread as possible at this stage in the game (particularly if the "consensus" POE is headed in the right direction), and this post effectively accomplishes the opposite of that. it might benefit CR to say this if their teammates were buried super deep but i still think it's kind of a towny observation to make in the first place
i also think that CR is town for emotional reasons that should be self-evident, but i feel dirty townreading him for that so im trying to substantiate my read with logic lol
Unfortunately not many are here.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:37 pm i was going to spend a few hours re-reading this game and analyzing the interactions everyone had with drwilgy but instead i think im just going to post in real-time as much as possible and develop my reads from there. it's more fun and less mentally draining that way, and it requires less WIM on my part
ill be around for a while tonight, so lmk if anyone wants to bounce thoughts off of each other
