Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 6:24 amyou should be MORE suspicious. I am only active at night, like a wolf see
I am MORE active because MORE wolves are dead see
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 6:53 amRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 6:24 amyou should be MORE suspicious. I am only active at night, like a wolf see
I am MORE active because MORE wolves are dead see
I absolutely did not shield Trekkie I was entirely focused on myself which indirectly led to Trekkie dying which I did nothing about whatsoever.gims wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 5:53 amyou mean the gameday you were shielding trekkie throughout? idk, maybe
Yeah yeah I'm not gonna argue that I don't play like that when I'm able to find powerwolf mode, but look inside yourself and you know that I don't have the heart to try to powerwolf this one. All my recent wolf games including the one just a month ago and the one with Trekkie just before that have been me pretty much just falling over at the first sign of a stuff breeze.
Not only that but earlier in the day before Trekkie started townreading me and town pushed me I sussed him to boot.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 6:55 amI absolutely did not shield Trekkie I was entirely focused on myself which indirectly led to Trekkie dying which I did nothing about whatsoever.gims wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 5:53 amyou mean the gameday you were shielding trekkie throughout? idk, maybe
You do.
I lol'd when Golden told me i was Silenced, given i was the Silencer in World Tour 1. Big coincidence, or someone who remembered this from World Tour 1 is now on the mafia team and thought it would be a form of poetic justice. My first thought was Scotty, as i silenced him twice that game i think, but then Michelle said she targetted me. Now it looks like Trekkie did indeed silence me, so maybe Scotty is on the mafia team after all. Or a Redirector redirected Trekkie's target onto me, i guess. Either way, i think Scotty looks town here but the thought did cross my mind.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 6:19 am @Michelle who did you target last night? can we confirm you targeted Tranq? Because lmao, silencer HAS to target so its super low% you both target tranq and Im cackling if that happened
You are right, we have 2 dangerous indies.
You guys aren't gonna believe me but I made this post specifically cuz I was pinged by the way Trekkie entered the game btw.
There's 23 roles listed but we have only 20 players, some of them are not present and there's specific ones that could be missing. I broke this down earlier at the start of day. It does seem like we probably had the 2 indies and the supatownie taken out, thank goodness.
Suuuuurely Trekkie didn't just be like yno.Trekkie99 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 7:26 am Gun to head I would vote IHNI ayyyyyy gottem
It would not be DM or Nicole I know that buuuuuuuuut at the same time I could see the angle on either of them but I don’t wanna cause they’re the only players I can actually read, and I mean that as presently in this game and not just in general
*stares*RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 6:45 amrun me through that one?Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 6:43 amI was gonna say could just be two more but yes that's actually correct, pizza got claimed by Rondo so we should be in the world with the 2 blue cells
And yes Scotty is just really definitely not a wolf
I tried that when you put me in Trek's wolf team and it didn't take! I think I may feel vaguely offended nowmhmmmDuelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:54 am
I was also feeling positive about Nicole's early posting, so Trekkie being there too (I checked) was a good sign IMO.
did you coach all your team mates to townread each other? lol
Its NOT mac
how do u know????Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 7:01 am It does seem like we probably had the 2 indies and the supatownie taken out, thank goodness.
gims wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 7:05 amhow do u know????Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 7:01 am It does seem like we probably had the 2 indies and the supatownie taken out, thank goodness.
Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2026 2:45 pmOhayo gozaimasu! I have taken time away from sharpening my blade to research this and it appears to be correct from what I can tell, we have to be in H. There has to be a Politician, so we were down to the previous 10 worlds with those. Now also either a Priest/Druid have to be present for the reveal to have happened (and yes I checked with the mod to ensure the Druid shot works exactly like a Priest's because it only mentions revealing role but it is a full Priest shot like we saw here). And then additionally there would have to be a Spy, or some way to corrupt the reveal, and Encryptor/Forger look to be the only ones that could do that. I did find Encryptor on 16 but there was no Priest or Druid so that's out. H is the only world that has all three roles that can account for what we've seen, with a Druid, Spy, and Politician.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2026 6:24 am I contemplated while the light was AKA- Jess was my Nanbāwan yukuzu pick. Second was trekkie.
So many busybodies crossing every which way, I’m surprised no one got run over.
-The no-kill lends itself more to full on confusion crossing streams in matrix H…survivalist, SK holstering and becoming bulletproof.
-The role reveal looks to be either priest or Druid. I don’t see priest on the list, so assuming Druid used a shot on Michelle. On H
-Additionally, I see Tranq has voted but has not posted, which is hinting at being silenced, which also is only on H.
SIGNS POINT TO H
PIYO PIYO
Also it's possible for some people to further narrow down exactly which roles were dealt from that world, as there's rules which aren't really explained well in the chart about which cells are added in combination with each other. We know know the Druid in the green cell exists so we could be looking at:
Both independents (Serial Killer/Darkness) and the green cell Druid
Both blue cells (Town Pizza Chef/Mafia Athlete) + green cell Druid
The green cell Druid + the yellow cell Supatownie + one independent
There was no kill last night so probably the mafia kill got blocked somehow and it doesn't feel very likely that a SK would holster on N1 here and even less likely that both kills get blocked so I'd lean towards the SK not existing and we're in one of the latter two possibilities. Obviously if we have multiple kills later then that changes.(Although technically the Parrot could do that if they parrot the mafia using a nightkill...
)
There are several ways a kill could fail in addition to the Survivalist and SK holster, there's also a Doctor, also someone could have prize won a Commuter or Doctor shot; and also Parrot could have replicated Doctor/Commuter.
And Michelle probably silenced Tranq. Please do not do that again, Michelle! Tranq is solid town. Use your role on the PoE!
what abt epig?
Thanks for asking!
)why do you want me to die?Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 7:24 am Oh yeah, can put Vivax on the Do Not Target list as well
I really should try to sleep more now
Without giving any deep thought at all, I would probably shield the trek wagon. There’s like some possibility there could be a busser at the end of it but it’s so risky to do it when you’re already down one packmate that I can’t imagine resolving there is correct
I didn't want to make a whole thing about this yesterday, but I didn't like this argument because I think it's obviously different making a snap read on page 4 vs making associative reads based on a confirmed red flipDuelist Mirage wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 11:03 pm Alright, there is something that has been bugging me about Epi and I just went back to the last game and checked and yes, this is Epi on Tranq last game on page 4:
This is Epi on Tranq this game:
Now, this is not sitting right with me. Epi effortlessly found townTranq last game, as did someone else, which I ascribed to their history with Tranq, because I sure wasn't actually getting any real read on Tranq there. I did find it helpful in forming a web of more likely town that sharpened my PoE that game. Epi is doing the opposite this game, not only has he not found townTranq, which I believe that I have done despite having quite little experience with Tranq; but Epi is not even finding town at all. What little actual game content we've gotten from him is just trying to create scumcases on probably just townies. And once again going to the well of just voting me for no real reason, I'm thinking maybe he's hoping I'll just shake my head at his attempt and write it off as town because that's what he's done to me in the past as town.Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 12:20 am BullshitReader9000 shows Tranq has even fewer meaningful interactions:
"Hontōni mōshiwake arimasen."Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 1:10 pmSpoiler: showYou're right to push back. It does look like papermache.NicoleAndDime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 8:33 am Is not mafia? Seems simple enough.
This feels like an oddly serious reading of obvious screwing around.
Especially I'm pretty sure that miltank is papermache not origami. [VOTE: tranq] aubergine
Miltanks aside, the quotes made it look like Vivax asked you a direct question. Looking back, he was actually using your posts as a response to Spurs' question here: https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 1#p1193401
So disregard my post. On paper it looked like you were avoiding a direct question, but i made a wrong mental fold.
This vote came at the very end and was the final one for NAD. Given the lack of anything between them, there is nothing here to indicate Tranq isn't on TEAM NAD.
After the vote, Tranq gave this half-assed assessment of me!Tranq wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:49 pmAye. Specifically when Nicole starting getting votes, Epi voted DM and then tried to recruit Wilgy into swinging the votes.
Based on vote timing, he is suspicious.
Based on posting though, i don't think as mafia Epi would be this obvious? He strikes me more of a teammate bussing kind of player.
No mention of Rondo is also weird. At that time DM-Nicole-Rondo were tied 3 votes each.
The first underlined bit mischaracterizes my brief interaction with Wilgy.
The second underlined bit is demonstrably untrue across the span of 13+ years. But if Tranq believes this, then would I not have cast a vote on NicoleandDimed and called it a day?
I have no idea about the last comment. "No mention of Rondo is also weird." I haven't talked to or about most people.
But why not lump me in with Michelle in this gem?
This is statistical noise designed to look meaningful. Cross-reference most people and you won't find mentions of most people Day 1.
Nevertheless, Michelle isn't mafia, is she?
IDK what I think about the Mac wagon that's occuring but it'll be funny if I go around voting other people instead, worked great at getting a wolf wagon pushed up last time
[VOTE: epignosis] aubergine
Saa, tatakaimashou!
I was just confused about the progression. Maybe you talk about it more laterDuelist Mirage wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 12:21 amSaying "shrug" about whether I'd want to vote Mac is a light townread? It was actually my least concerned tier in that listGoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 9:16 pm Hey @Duelist Mirage , do you have an explanation for your progression from your first 3 posts where you seemed to lightly be town-reading Mac, and most recently had him in your secondary POE? Truly not trying to be a gotcha moment, I'm just looking at the counterwagons and curious how you got to where you did on Mac.
And how do you feel about your pyxxy vote after their posts earlier today?
I am like kazemakase Tsukikage Ran, unconcerned and in need of napping
Because I still don't really have anywhere I really feel like voting and more people are starting to step up their posting today and I didn't sleep enough to be able to process it all very well
My point was that aside from making a case on me, you were avoiding giving many reads for most of the day. That's what I would do as scum, try to fight without potentially townspewing townies in case I did ultimately go over.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 2:15 amFeels bad man. Where exactly am I avoiding anti spew? I am posting more than anyone on day 2.GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 11:37 pmHe just reads as caught scum avoiding anti spew. But others would be more familiar with his scum game than me.
I can’t get there with Jess right now. I thought their posts last night were ok.
I would consider trek.
I’m heading to bed. I’m sure I’ll poke my head in at some point overnight to see the VC and move accordingly
OofMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 2:24 amOh I dunno I forgot to move my vote.leetic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 2:16 amWhy are you still on gims? Also, do you have any alignment related thoughts on Trekkie?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 2:14 amSuch a townie thing to do. Such a shame I can't just omgus you here.
Yes I dont find trekkie particularly wolfy but they are a blind spot for me. Trekkie is mostly being pushed for having a bad opinion specifically on me being possibly town which I am uniquely positioned to know is both correct AND based. If they are mafia I am disincentivised to find them as such.
I wonder if LC was actually the one who was silenced, since I believe Michelle claimed targeting Tranq N1? But that would be a completely bizarre choice to be silenced.
I'm sorry to be piling on, but this is still quite hedgy.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 3:04 am DrWilgy is likely town for coming in and casting a decisive vote on nicole and sounded quite town in that spree
Dubz I dont rly have much memory of at all but vaguely remember thinking they were townie
Duelist is wolfy to me because of how they handled the dynamic when nicole got wagoned but I figure there is some reason nobody is voting there that makes me an idiot so I am refraining from saying anything
Epi s actively townreading me which is the most pro town thing anyone could possible be doing fmpov and was townie in how he handled Wilgy's entry on day 1
Gims seems all towny and whatever
GoSpursGo i have explained my position on
Jess actually seems townier than I am used to which stokes paranoia but also meh
Leetic is nearly top wagon but still more interested in my alignment than pushing wolf agenda
LC is getting a weird free pass for reasons I dont understand at all but I dont find him wolfy or townie
You are mod peeked town apparently
Nutella is like muted by her usual standards but her progression around Jess is super town nutella areas
Porscha is actually quite towny when she posts and is also not voting me and we love that
Pyxxy nfi... what happened to that wagon?
Rondo is a mystery box as per usual.
Scotty was towny on day 1 but kinda sucks today and has had a bad read on me all game but the nicole stuff is just very towny
Tranq ... i dunno poe i guess I got no reason to have a read at all.
Trekkie has been pro Mac so again I am not incentivised to suspect them in the current gamestate. I have a vague feeling they are gonna flip mafia and I will be in defense mode again on day 3 but that is fine lol.
Vivax is my ride or die town which probs means they are mafia and I am like cosmically being pushed for their sins or something.
Ah I misread leetic's post as saying they hadn't postedTranq wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 9:26 amLong Con made a couple of posts in the first half of Day 2.
Not an insane take. Here are a few thoughts:RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 6:03 amList A: Tranq, Scotty, jess, Porscha, Michelle, gims, DrWilgy, leeticleetic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 5:50 amIt's almost 6 AM in my timezone so I'll have to get some sleep before deciding. I will note that Duelist looks questionable based on pure VCA so farRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 5:46 amyeah thats why I have been doing nothing for the first two days, A its fun to mess with people by doing and saying nothing when they expect me to come in and do stuff and B I sleep.
who you pushing tomorrow?
List B: Vivax, nutella, GoSpursGo, gims, DrWilgy, Scotty, Tranq
A and B: Tranq, Scotty, gims, Wilgy
A or B: Vivax, nutella, jess, porscha, leetic, spurs
Michelle - cleared
Rondo - role card
Tranq - silenced
Gims - funky vibes
Wilgy
Scotty - this might be wrong, it might also be right
jess
leetic - targeted twice (nichol and tekkie)
Vivax - nichols miselim d1
Nutella
spurs - bad vibe
porscha - vote skip/last second pile on
dubz - trekkies miselim d1
Pyxxy - loving his vibe
MacDougall - prob 3p
Epignosis - voted with trekkie d2
Long Con - ????
Duelist Mirage - voted with trekkie d1 and 2
is this an insane take on the game atm?
Moved from leetic to Trekkie after reading this post.GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 3:13 am Interesting.
Haven’t read last several pages but my preference would be Mac or trek. I still don’t get the logic in immediately voting for the person Nicole was voting (leetic) for unless Nicole has a big ole bussing meta. And I like the wagons on Mac and trek better.
Anyways. Back to sleep.
Why do you assume the two 3ps would be removed instead of the blue cells? Like supatownie definitely got removed, and it appears that Druid is in the game, but then I can't tell why you would assume the 3p's were culled rather than the blue cells.Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 7:01 amThere's 23 roles listed but we have only 20 players, some of them are not present and there's specific ones that could be missing. I broke this down earlier at the start of day. It does seem like we probably had the 2 indies and the supatownie taken out, thank goodness.
awesome can we nail DM for TMI?GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:13 amWhy do you assume the two 3ps would be removed instead of the blue cells? Like supatownie definitely got removed, and it appears that Druid is in the game, but then I can't tell why you would assume the 3p's were culled rather than the blue cells.Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 7:01 amThere's 23 roles listed but we have only 20 players, some of them are not present and there's specific ones that could be missing. I broke this down earlier at the start of day. It does seem like we probably had the 2 indies and the supatownie taken out, thank goodness.
I hope this was 3/3 as wellgims wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 8:47 pm I just scumread way too many ppl here
Trekkie is doing a thing where idk what he is saying unless I effort and it looks fluid so its getting townreads but I aint feeling it
DM has so many posts im scratching my head abt where im going "ok why are you even focusing in this thing, does it help you at all?"
Nicole's best post is still imo that one sussing leetic
And then I have a lot of ppl im readless on
Spurs was okay early game but I dont like the latter part of his posting
I Trust scotty and jess and thats it
Oh this is why DM thinks the 3p's got culled instead of the blue cells. I thought this was just a ****post but now I see it may have been mechanical lmao.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 11:23 am Oh I guess its important for me to tell people I got some pizza it was delicious harikiri
