Re: The Hobbit Mafia: Day 5
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:19 pm
Voting for Mongoose. She didn't respond to my question about who we should be looking at other than her, so it seems like she's given up, which usually means baddie.
I have no idea about MongooseBoogs wrote:I think I find it very helpful that you chose to vote Mongoose yesterday and today you switch ships to me. Almost as if maybe you knew she was going to survive and wanted to blend in, Snow?Snow Dog wrote:Don't feel good about Boogs so voted for he.
If I wanted to blend I'd have voted her today also as she is obviously a goner.Boogs wrote:Not to mention you were the last voter for Mongoose also.. Blendy much?
Snow Dog wrote:I have no idea about MongooseBoogs wrote:I think I find it very helpful that you chose to vote Mongoose yesterday and today you switch ships to me. Almost as if maybe you knew she was going to survive and wanted to blend in, Snow?Snow Dog wrote:Don't feel good about Boogs so voted for he.
If I wanted to blend I'd have voted her today also as she is obviously a goner.Boogs wrote:Not to mention you were the last voter for Mongoose also.. Blendy much?
You're right I should have stuck to my guns and voted you last time too. Everyone is blendy though, including you.Boogs wrote:Snow Dog wrote:I have no idea about MongooseBoogs wrote:I think I find it very helpful that you chose to vote Mongoose yesterday and today you switch ships to me. Almost as if maybe you knew she was going to survive and wanted to blend in, Snow?Snow Dog wrote:Don't feel good about Boogs so voted for he.
If I wanted to blend I'd have voted her today also as she is obviously a goner.Boogs wrote:Not to mention you were the last voter for Mongoose also.. Blendy much?
So if you have no idea about Mongoose, then why would you have cast a vote to lynch her yesterday if you think I'm a Baddie?
But you DID blend in by voting me Day 3, Mongoose Day 4 when she didn't get lynched, then randomly back onto me here on Day 5. If I'm so bad, why wouldn't you have voted me all 3 times? You were the last one who voted Mongoose yesterday but you just said "you have no idea about her". Doesn't add up to vote for someone randomly like that. It's blendy.
You vote Mongoose Day 4 and drop your hounding after me because you believe I'm faking the silence, without giving much explanation to your vote when she was most likely to be lynched and you vote her last (or so we thought she would be), then today you drop going after her and back onto me because you think "I'm bad" again where someone just survived a lynch that has WAY more suspicion. Why would you not vote me Day 4 when she was going to die if I'm you're suspect but yet today you can vote me when she's going to die? It's the same situation of her going to die both days but today I get your vote for someone reason.Snow Dog wrote:Votes The Goose, mon!
Yeah but you seem to be getting awful comfortable and blendy following Captain Bunny here the past 2 days when Mongoose didn't really get lynched. If she turns up the other a Goblin team like I think most likely makes sense, know that I think you're on her team and you're my next target Snow.Snow Dog wrote:You're right I should have stuck to my guns and voted you last time too. Everyone is blendy though, including you.Boogs wrote:Snow Dog wrote:I have no idea about MongooseBoogs wrote:I think I find it very helpful that you chose to vote Mongoose yesterday and today you switch ships to me. Almost as if maybe you knew she was going to survive and wanted to blend in, Snow?Snow Dog wrote:Don't feel good about Boogs so voted for he.
If I wanted to blend I'd have voted her today also as she is obviously a goner.Boogs wrote:Not to mention you were the last voter for Mongoose also.. Blendy much?
So if you have no idea about Mongoose, then why would you have cast a vote to lynch her yesterday if you think I'm a Baddie?
But you DID blend in by voting me Day 3, Mongoose Day 4 when she didn't get lynched, then randomly back onto me here on Day 5. If I'm so bad, why wouldn't you have voted me all 3 times? You were the last one who voted Mongoose yesterday but you just said "you have no idea about her". Doesn't add up to vote for someone randomly like that. It's blendy.
lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URXwGZoZz_M&t=2m16sHedgeowl wrote:Dont want to miss this with an appt later. The only way it wprks currently is if mongoose is Smaug or not on a team or her team has given up on her.
Votess my fav gooose.
Almost forgot Day 2 when you "suspect" Mongoose but didn't vote her then either. You keep going back and forth dude. Stick with who you think is bad.Snow Dog wrote:I think I suspect Elochin and Mongoose most but I might suck it and see and chuck a vote on k4j .
Nope. YOU are bad.....maybe Mongoose too....not sure about her. I hope she is.Boogs wrote:Almost forgot Day 2 when you "suspect" Mongoose but didn't vote her then either. You keep going back and forth dude. Stick with who you think is bad.Snow Dog wrote:I think I suspect Elochin and Mongoose most but I might suck it and see and chuck a vote on k4j .
You brought up I was faking it then Captain bunny chimed in and you both back and forth kept saying stuff to me and other players about it. Then you seemed to drop it then you start back up with me
The way I see it, you're Mongoose's teammate for all the things I've posted above and you are further trying to keep yourself under he radar by keeping up the Boogs stuff to keep the attention back on me. You're too wishy washy with your behavior to be civ, you're bad news. I think you're hoping Captain Bunny keeps up with it and others will eye me too. I don't think Captain bunny is bad atm, I think she is a misguided Civ that is taking me for Baddie.
They can be domesticated and are kept as pets to control vermin. However, they can be more destructive than desired; when imported into the West Indies to kill rats and snakes, they destroyed most of the small, ground-based fauna. For this reason, it is illegal to import most species of mongooses into the United States, Australia, and other countries. Mongooses were introduced to Hawaii in 1883 and have had a significant negative effect on native species.Mongoose wrote:Apparently everyone's favorite type of friendly neighborhood mongoose is a dead one.
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Perhaps the Oakenshield character protected her.Boogs wrote:That makes no sense... Where does Bilbo have an ability to not be lynched? Utterly confused.
That role says protects a player nightly though... I would assume from night actions. Something weird is going on.Leamiteo wrote:Perhaps the Oakenshield character protected her.Boogs wrote:That makes no sense... Where does Bilbo have an ability to not be lynched? Utterly confused.
Yeah I'll bet you are. Snow for now on.Snow Dog wrote:So sorry I vted for you once Goosey. Should have stuck with my true suspicions. I was sorry for my vote after I cast it. Boogs from now on.
I made an error of judgemnet and was swayed by the majority. I thought I was supposed to be Mongoose's baddie teammate? What I'm not? Yet you are still going to vote for me?Boogs wrote:Yeah I'll bet you are. Snow for now on.Snow Dog wrote:So sorry I vted for you once Goosey. Should have stuck with my true suspicions. I was sorry for my vote after I cast it. Boogs from now on.
Boogs wrote:That role says protects a player nightly though... I would assume from night actions. Something weird is going on.Leamiteo wrote:Perhaps the Oakenshield character protected her.Boogs wrote:That makes no sense... Where does Bilbo have an ability to not be lynched? Utterly confused.
Maybe dis have something to do wit itPossessor of the Ring, which gives him special powers. Also the dwarves' burglar, despite being a homebody. Initially doubted by the dwarves, he continually goes up in their estimation.
Gains +1 vote every 3 Day periods. May have the opportunity to burgle from Smaug.
I still don't buy you Snow. Something bad is going on with you and your wishy washy behavior.Snow Dog wrote:I made an error of judgemnet and was swayed by the majority. I thought I was supposed to be Mongoose's baddie teammate? What I'm not? Yet you are still going to vote for me?Boogs wrote:Yeah I'll bet you are. Snow for now on.Snow Dog wrote:So sorry I vted for you once Goosey. Should have stuck with my true suspicions. I was sorry for my vote after I cast it. Boogs from now on.
Mongoose didn't seem to know how she survived.reywaS wrote:Boogs wrote:That role says protects a player nightly though... I would assume from night actions. Something weird is going on.Leamiteo wrote:Perhaps the Oakenshield character protected her.Boogs wrote:That makes no sense... Where does Bilbo have an ability to not be lynched? Utterly confused.Maybe dis have something to do wit itPossessor of the Ring, which gives him special powers. Also the dwarves' burglar, despite being a homebody. Initially doubted by the dwarves, he continually goes up in their estimation.
Gains +1 vote every 3 Day periods. May have the opportunity to burgle from Smaug.
I made an error of judgement. Absolutely nothing wishy washy about that. Don't you ever get things wrong?Boogs wrote:I still don't buy you Snow. Something bad is going on with you and your wishy washy behavior.Snow Dog wrote:I made an error of judgemnet and was swayed by the majority. I thought I was supposed to be Mongoose's baddie teammate? What I'm not? Yet you are still going to vote for me?Boogs wrote:Yeah I'll bet you are. Snow for now on.Snow Dog wrote:So sorry I vted for you once Goosey. Should have stuck with my true suspicions. I was sorry for my vote after I cast it. Boogs from now on.
Ahh. Perhaps. I wonder if she wasn't aware of the power that the ring gave her? Too badreywaS wrote:Boogs wrote:That role says protects a player nightly though... I would assume from night actions. Something weird is going on.Leamiteo wrote:Perhaps the Oakenshield character protected her.Boogs wrote:That makes no sense... Where does Bilbo have an ability to not be lynched? Utterly confused.Maybe dis have something to do wit itPossessor of the Ring, which gives him special powers. Also the dwarves' burglar, despite being a homebody. Initially doubted by the dwarves, he continually goes up in their estimation.
Gains +1 vote every 3 Day periods. May have the opportunity to burgle from Smaug.
I guess either of those are possible.reywaS wrote:Also, it looks like there is more to the role than is shown. "Possessor of the Ring, which gives him special powers...ALSO"
So it doesn't emphatically say "SECRET" in the role, but it looks like there are some secrets to the role.
linki w/ Snow Dog: Maybe she didn't know what the ring did? Or maybe she was just playing coy.
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Huh?Snow Dog wrote:FIX!!!
I know that it's obvious to point out that llama lead the mongoose charge, but it began to look like the teammates argument didn't make sense before the lynch went down, so that adds to it for me.thellama73 wrote:It's a good point, CBK. I'll have to think about it.Captain Bunny Killer wrote:Ok, that post you quoted got me thinking, and I looked back over the Mongoose theories. Help me out here. I totally get that a lynch survival looks really suspicious, but I'm not sold on the teammates thing. The prevailing theory seems to be that the teammates could have provided the lynch stop (unless it was Mongoose herself). But why would they stop a lynch and all vote for her? Surely they would know we'd all be super suspicious, so it would have to be knowingly sacrificing a teammate, and even helping it along. I just can't see them going from "no one is listening to llama" to "ok let's throw her to the wolves and give ourselves credit"... or just make everyone way more edgy. If they saw that the votes were suddenly coming in for her (and why were they?), why wouldn't they just do the standard throwing under the bus and just seal her fate and their supposed civviness?thellama73 wrote:This is the point I was making as well.Captain Bunny Killer wrote: If Mongoose had teemmates who knew she would survive a lynch (and knew that surviving a lynch would look suspicious, given our roles), wouldn't they just vote for her to look good?
Don't get me wrong. I agree that there were certainly baddies in the vote, but why is it impossible that it's the classic jump in where someone not on your team is already getting the votes?
For now, this makes me lean more towards the Smaug theory, but I'm still not even sure I'm voting for her. The problem is that, though it would be great to get rid of Smaug, it's another easy bandwagon for the baddies.
linki: @Boogs: I'll say it again. Mongoose had way more votes than a whole baddie team before anyone started voting for you, and any even semi-experienced Mafia player would know that a failed dog-pile lynch would look really suspicious. It's possible that a baddie voted for you, just as it's possible that baddies voted for Mongoose, because they try to blend into existing suspicions (which is why I've suspected you). I think these points make it unlikely that a baddie team tried to vote you out. But, as I've mentioned above, I'm not sure that the baddies were thinking about Mongoose as a teammate at all.
My guess is that people were actually starting to listen to me, and at some point they saw a Mongoose lynch as inevitable and tried to save her. Then, the piling on allowed for a near unanimous vote with no clues to differentiate one voter from another.
My guess is that the timing of the votes coming in caused them to make a tactical error by using their lynch save, only later realizing that they should have just thrown her under the buss. Another possibility is thta her role has a power that they really wanted to use for one more day and thought it was worth it.
Joke?Russtifinko wrote:Huh?Snow Dog wrote:FIX!!!
Haha well I figured that. I didn't know if you were joking that the contest was fixed, or that I needed to "fix" the lynch.Snow Dog wrote:Joke?Russtifinko wrote:Huh?Snow Dog wrote:FIX!!!
LOL xDSnow Dog wrote:Joke?Russtifinko wrote:Huh?Snow Dog wrote:FIX!!!
Enough of your culinary problems you seem to have erred on this one.thellama73 wrote:Well I have egg on my face.
I just said that.Snow Dog wrote:Enough of your culinary problems you seem to have erred on this one.thellama73 wrote:Well I have egg on my face.