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FZ. wrote:It's been a very busy day. What the heck is going on with the names on the poll, the reverse stuff and all of that? Can someone explain it?
I don't know what to think of all of this. I still want to know if you all think this is the doing of a civvie or a baddie
If it's Zoom related, did it have something to do with SD, or was it just a coincidence? The thing is, if it's Zoom, I'd expect something really bad to happen. But this does look like something that could be connected to the R-flash.Roxy wrote:FZ. wrote:It's been a very busy day. What the heck is going on with the names on the poll, the reverse stuff and all of that? Can someone explain it?
I don't know what to think of all of this. I still want to know if you all think this is the doing of a civvie or a baddie
I was wondering if it had something to do with Prof. Zoom who looks and reminds me of the Reverse Flash. What do you think about that FZ?
Thanks for sharing inre: Soneji
DH - Flashpoint Paradox? Can you explainit in a way that I could understand?
You can say that again. But how does it relate to what just happened?Long Con wrote:Whoa. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Le ... nt_Paradox
That's a crazy storyline.
He did say he was voting for someone else this day. I think it's DHTurnip Head wrote:I actually feel a lot better about how Roxy played yesterday now knowing that her BTSC buddy was Aces. If Roxy wanted to she could have hopped on the Ace wagon early and fueled it further with her story about BTSC but yet she showed restraint. Roxy earned a few civvie points in my book for that move.
What does everyone think of BF atm? I feel like he's been coming in here and voting for Bullzeye repeatedly and not contributing much other than that, other than to chastise us for who we've lynched be they bad or good. I'm interested in hearing Llama's opinion of BF.
Oh okay thanks I missed that. I'm feeling pretty good about DH, what do you think of him?FZ. wrote:He did say he was voting for someone else this day. I think it's DHTurnip Head wrote:I actually feel a lot better about how Roxy played yesterday now knowing that her BTSC buddy was Aces. If Roxy wanted to she could have hopped on the Ace wagon early and fueled it further with her story about BTSC but yet she showed restraint. Roxy earned a few civvie points in my book for that move.
What does everyone think of BF atm? I feel like he's been coming in here and voting for Bullzeye repeatedly and not contributing much other than that, other than to chastise us for who we've lynched be they bad or good. I'm interested in hearing Llama's opinion of BF.
I think it will likely just be a normal lynch, and then Night 3 and Day 4 and so on normally. And I don't think Llama will die, I think it's more likely that someone resurrected the obvious choice somehow.
maybe they're right. I just don't have a feel on Bullz yet.
I'm feeling okay about DH, but there are moments that I wonder if he's just fooling me.Turnip Head wrote:Oh okay thanks I missed that. I'm feeling pretty good about DH, what do you think of him?FZ. wrote:He did say he was voting for someone else this day. I think it's DHTurnip Head wrote:I actually feel a lot better about how Roxy played yesterday now knowing that her BTSC buddy was Aces. If Roxy wanted to she could have hopped on the Ace wagon early and fueled it further with her story about BTSC but yet she showed restraint. Roxy earned a few civvie points in my book for that move.
What does everyone think of BF atm? I feel like he's been coming in here and voting for Bullzeye repeatedly and not contributing much other than that, other than to chastise us for who we've lynched be they bad or good. I'm interested in hearing Llama's opinion of BF.
I was under the impression that it was SD that was going to be lynched, not Aces. Are you sure about that? By the way, you didn't say how you feel about her.Long Con wrote:Here is the Wiki article as well, from the original comics.
FZ, I don't understand what happened either, there's nothing I can tell you. It appears that Aces was going to be lynched, but instead the day reset, with this weird alternate stuff going on. I can see the similarity to the Flashpoint thing. I wonder, if we restore the timeline, will Llama be dead again?
Metalmarsh: I saw in Roxy's quote when you said "maybe Llama will get rezzed too" in reference to the "dark irony" of the similarity to Llama's X-Men game. I can't believe it actually happened! Just wonderful. I wonder if someone, for the sake of continued monitoring, could share what fate befell Llama next in X-Men?
As for the whole Roxy-Aces situation, and the suspicions of DH, Bullzeye, Metalmarsh, S~V~S, I'm a little at a loss. I've read it all once only, and I think it will take another read-through to get my bearings on the current scene. Wow, and I just looked, and the lynch ends in 5 hours. I guess it seems very sudden to me since I was not around for a good chunk of Reverse-Day-3.
Ok, I'll try to relate how I feel about people. BF, I have a bit of suspicion about, but I'm waiting to see if a certain thing happens regarding him. I'm seeing a couple of possible Civ-BTSC connections between some people, but obviously I don't want to share who... and I might be getting vibes from map-BTSC and confusing it. Roxy is pinging me a little bit, but I feel like she has had some bold play and I don't know if a baddie Roxy would act that way.
I really don't know what to think of the Aces-Roxy map-BTSC thing most of all. There were a lot of reactions to it, and some of those seemed confident that Roxy and Aces were Civ, if I recall correctly. I don't know why, maybe someone can reiterate that point of view. I mean, Aces was going to be lynched, and Roxy was trying to save him, right? I think it's a bit suspicious. I think I saw Aces pulling a little No U on me back there somewhere, which didn't make me feel better about him. I may end up voting for him again, or Roxy.
I feel sort of sympathetic toward Bullzeye, he really has been under suspicion from the get-go, and I never really shared that suspicion. BF and MM are very confident in it though, so
Who else is out there? Timmer, I feel pretty good about, Turnip Head too. DH could be bad.
I realize that I'm a little wishy-washy on some opinions on current events, I really need to do a reread. But the lynch ends too soon, I'm going to my mom's for a BBQ very soon, so the reread will have to wait.
I'm going to be putting my vote there for now. I'm not sure if I'll be home in time and we were supposed to leave 5 mins ago.Catching up but wanted to respond to this first. I'm always far more engaged as a baddie, I don't really like being civ and would rarely be one if I had the choice. That's not to say it ruins games or anything, some of my favourite roles have been civ ones, and some of my favourite games have been where I was a civ, but I find it harder to get into a game if I'm not bad or at least if I don't have a team of some kind. I'm more likely to allow myself to be inactive as a civ tbh. Being ill during the week did make me a bit absent but as I've said I'm generally feeling burnt out by this game and being constantly on the defense. I don't particularly want to die, especially not at night, but at this point I also really want to see certain people proved wrong about me - more than I want anything else in this game. I'm sick of defending basically and don't want to do it any more.FZ. wrote: I didn't think Bullz was bad either, and I hope he doesn't take it the wrong way, but I feel that when I am bad, I let real life become an issue more than I do when I'm a civ. I don't do it on purpose, but it's like I allow myself to be less active because I'm busy, whereas when I'm a civ, I can't help myself and I am engaged no matter what. I don't know if that's the case with him, but it seems as though him not feeling well has made him absent. I hope it's just that.
I think if BF were a detective, I'd be dead. I don't think he's on team Llama.FZ. wrote:Bullz, for what it's worth, I think most people here don't necessarily view you as a baddie, so I wouldn't worry.
I agree that a lot of what I think about BF is riding on what llama says about him, so I hope he stops by soon, because I'm really tired and want to go to sleep. I don't really get BF's vote, nor do I get MM.
Between Roxy and Aces , I think I'd rather go for Aces, but I'm not convinced he's bad either.
I don't know his reasons, and maybe you do have a point there, but to your last point, I just want to say that as a civ, I'm tempted to vote for the low posters because it's getting on my nerves. If you don't want to play, don't join. I'm sick of players doing that....Had to get it off my chest. That said, I know low posters can easily be civvies and lynching them does nothing for the civvie cause. Still, I sometimes feel like I'd rather give a potential baddie, who's trying to be here and post, the benefit of the doubt, and lynch a low poster who's not even tryingtimmer wrote:I'm quite busy at work today, I've been skimming as best I can, but I'm not really available to post a ton.
Here's the thing that bugs me about DH's Made suspicion today.
If you look back to DH's first post about Made today, it mentions that DH thought that Made was off the poll. Once others pointed out that he was actually there, DH ran with that knowledge, but I cannot get over that
a) there are clearly multiple players missing, not just Made. Even if you can't remember all of them, there are enough names on the poll who aren't posting that I find it hard to believe DH missed it and thought it was only Made.
b) it's a comment about a player DH thought was off of the poll. That means he was bringing up stuff that he thought would have no bearing on today's lynch. With all of the chaos yesterday, cases against Daisy, Roxy, Aces, older cases still against Bullz, some against SVS (his own, that one), BF, DH brings up a point about someone who he thought wasn't even relevant to today.
c) I won't go check, but I believe there is a protecting role, and likely a blocking role. Whether someone kills on odd nights or even nights, they'd have only had one chance so far to kill since instead of a night 3 we got day 3.1. So I don't even see how there is enough evidence yet about missed kills for Made to be a suspect anyway.
and lastly, d) I find it is more often baddies than goodies who bring up lynching low posters/absent players.
All of this means I am not liking DH's output today.
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I thought about it, but that would make it very obvious that he is a detective. Do we always learn who was responsible for a NK?Bullzeye wrote:I think if BF were a detective, I'd be dead. I don't think he's on team Llama.FZ. wrote:Bullz, for what it's worth, I think most people here don't necessarily view you as a baddie, so I wouldn't worry.
I agree that a lot of what I think about BF is riding on what llama says about him, so I hope he stops by soon, because I'm really tired and want to go to sleep. I don't really get BF's vote, nor do I get MM.
Between Roxy and Aces , I think I'd rather go for Aces, but I'm not convinced he's bad either.
I was trying to do the same thing (without the mirror) and came up with nothing. There's also Secret secrets, and maybe Plunder who's from the mirror universe?Turnip Head wrote:Interesting points about DH, timmer-prime. I don't think it's DH's baddie-MO to go after low posters, I think he's more conniving than that when he's bad, but I'd like to know why he singled Made out from the other people that aren't playing.
I gave the tildes a once-over looking for things like "reverse" "stop" "mirror" and couldn't really find anything. Then it occurred to look for "alternate" so I'ma do that now and also "lightning strike".
Also Zoom's role has a bunch of ??????'s after the tildes and no other role has that, so there may be secret secrets. Also why are there two arch-villains named Zoom
As far as I know we do. BF is really determined to see me dead, and seemed really smug at the thought of the ninja killing me N1. I can't imagine he'd have passed up on that opportunity. It would be better for him too tbh, if I'm lynched he and MM lose their credibility.FZ. wrote:I thought about it, but that would make it very obvious that he is a detective. Do we always learn who was responsible for a NK?Bullzeye wrote:I think if BF were a detective, I'd be dead. I don't think he's on team Llama.FZ. wrote:Bullz, for what it's worth, I think most people here don't necessarily view you as a baddie, so I wouldn't worry.
I agree that a lot of what I think about BF is riding on what llama says about him, so I hope he stops by soon, because I'm really tired and want to go to sleep. I don't really get BF's vote, nor do I get MM.
Between Roxy and Aces , I think I'd rather go for Aces, but I'm not convinced he's bad either.
What do you think of BF?thellama73 wrote:You know, I was willing to drop my suspicion of Bullz for a while. He sounded authentic in the wake of my lynch. But the constant whining about an impending NK is starting to feel forced. I'm not quite sure what to make of it, but it is starting to swing me back in the "suspicious of Bullz" direction.
I'm pretty sure there is also "insanify", "lynch switch", "role check" (or block), "power steal", "silence".Turnip Head wrote:Abra Kadabra – He is a stage magician who uses futuristic technology to put on the greatest show on Earth. As such, he has a bevy of powers at his disposal. Once each, he can: ~~s~~~~~, ~~~~~-s~~~~~, r~~~ ~~~~~, ~~~~r s~~~~, s~~~~~~, survive a kill, survive a lynch, or resurrect another player.Abra Kadabra – He is a stage magician who uses futuristic technology to put on the greatest show on Earth. As such, he has a bevy of powers at his disposal. Once each, he can: ~~s~~~~~, ~~~~~-s~~~~~, r~~~ ~~~~~, ~~~~r s~~~~, s~~~~~~, s~r~~~~ ~ ~~~~, s~r~~~~ ~ ~~~~~, ~r r~s~rr~~~ ~~~~~~r ~~~~~r.
Am I talking about an impending NK? No. I'm talking about one that would have happened in a certain circumstance. Don't twist my words.thellama73 wrote:You know, I was willing to drop my suspicion of Bullz for a while. He sounded authentic in the wake of my lynch. But the constant whining about an impending NK is starting to feel forced. I'm not quite sure what to make of it, but it is starting to swing me back in the "suspicious of Bullz" direction.
timmer wrote:I'm quite busy at work today, I've been skimming as best I can, but I'm not really available to post a ton.
Here's the thing that bugs me about DH's Made suspicion today.
If you look back to DH's first post about Made today, it mentions that DH thought that Made was off the poll. Once others pointed out that he was actually there, DH ran with that knowledge, but I cannot get over that
a) there are clearly multiple players missing, not just Made. Even if you can't remember all of them, there are enough names on the poll who aren't posting that I find it hard to believe DH missed it and thought it was only Made.
b) it's a comment about a player DH thought was off of the poll. That means he was bringing up stuff that he thought would have no bearing on today's lynch. With all of the chaos yesterday, cases against Daisy, Roxy, Aces, older cases still against Bullz, some against SVS (his own, that one), BF, DH brings up a point about someone who he thought wasn't even relevant to today.
c) I won't go check, but I believe there is a protecting role, and likely a blocking role. Whether someone kills on odd nights or even nights, they'd have only had one chance so far to kill since instead of a night 3 we got day 3.1. So I don't even see how there is enough evidence yet about missed kills for Made to be a suspect anyway.
and lastly, d) I find it is more often baddies than goodies who bring up lynching low posters/absent players.
All of this means I am not liking DH's output today.
Really? I mean, its not exactly 100% concrete, but thats not the reply I was expecting, man.DharmaHelper wrote:
Input would be nice! What do you think of DH? I need help there. And related, what do you think of low posters? Any pings there?rabbit8 wrote:Just got home. Going to be reading the thread today, YAY!
What were you expecting? Did it make you feel better or worse about him?timmer wrote:Really? I mean, its not exactly 100% concrete, but thats not the reply I was expecting, man.DharmaHelper wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:timmer wrote:I'm quite busy at work today, I've been skimming as best I can, but I'm not really available to post a ton.
Here's the thing that bugs me about DH's Made suspicion today.
If you look back to DH's first post about Made today, it mentions that DH thought that Made was off the poll. Once others pointed out that he was actually there, DH ran with that knowledge, but I cannot get over that
a) there are clearly multiple players missing, not just Made. Even if you can't remember all of them, there are enough names on the poll who aren't posting that I find it hard to believe DH missed it and thought it was only Made.
I didn't think it was only Made, I just had Made on the mind.
b) it's a comment about a player DH thought was off of the poll. That means he was bringing up stuff that he thought would have no bearing on today's lynch. With all of the chaos yesterday, cases against Daisy, Roxy, Aces, older cases still against Bullz, some against SVS (his own, that one), BF, DH brings up a point about someone who he thought wasn't even relevant to today.
We established Made was on the poll before I brought up anything.
c) I won't go check, but I believe there is a protecting role, and likely a blocking role. Whether someone kills on odd nights or even nights, they'd have only had one chance so far to kill since instead of a night 3 we got day 3.1. So I don't even see how there is enough evidence yet about missed kills for Made to be a suspect anyway.
This is actually a valid point. I'm not saying my Made suspicion is bulletproof, clearly it is not. I would have voted for him already if I was 100% certain.
and lastly, d) I find it is more often baddies than goodies who bring up lynching low posters/absent players.
Difficult to defend against this, but I can assure you I almost always bring up lynching low/absent players regardless of alignment.
All of this means I am not liking DH's output today.
Thanks for the reply, DH, but I think you are twisting things a bit. This^^ is from what I can tell, your first mention of Made today. Thus, it had NOT been established that he was on the poll yet. Right?DharmaHelper wrote:I'm mulling some things over. If Made were on the poll I might have voted for him.Bass_the_Clever wrote:Thanks. Who are you thinking about voting today?DharmaHelper wrote:I don't feel great about her waiting so long on the Aces thing.Bass_the_Clever wrote:DH what do you think of Roxy?
I was expecting an actual reply, lol, which he's now given.FZ. wrote:What were you expecting? Did it make you feel better or worse about him?timmer wrote:Really? I mean, its not exactly 100% concrete, but thats not the reply I was expecting, man.DharmaHelper wrote:
Why isn't llama answering this? There's a chance I'm going to vote for BF. His suspicions seem too easy, and have you noticed that he focuses on one player per day? It's like he doesn't need to bother himself with commenting on all the rest because he already has a suspect. In my opinion, that's usually more a baddie tell than a civvie oneTurnip Head wrote:Timmer what do you think of BF?
I agree, I think I brought it up earlier. BF's focus has been much narrower than I would have expected from him this far into the game. I asked for Llama's take but like you said he hasn't provided one yet.FZ. wrote:I think I'm just going to vote for BF. I really need to go to sleep, and I can't wait anymore. The only thing keeping me from voting BF is llama, but since he's not answering, I might as well vote and get out of here
I just did a complete reread of BF.FZ. wrote:Why isn't llama answering this? There's a chance I'm going to vote for BF. His suspicions seem too easy, and have you noticed that he focuses on one player per day? It's like he doesn't need to bother himself with commenting on all the rest because he already has a suspect. In my opinion, that's usually more a baddie tell than a civvie oneTurnip Head wrote:Timmer what do you think of BF?
I am hunting scum. what are you doing?Bullzeye wrote:Am I talking about an impending NK? No. I'm talking about one that would have happened in a certain circumstance. Don't twist my words.thellama73 wrote:You know, I was willing to drop my suspicion of Bullz for a while. He sounded authentic in the wake of my lynch. But the constant whining about an impending NK is starting to feel forced. I'm not quite sure what to make of it, but it is starting to swing me back in the "suspicious of Bullz" direction.
BF's defense of me was odd and unexpected, but I do not read him as bad. I don't think baddies stick their necks out like that.FZ. wrote:Why isn't llama answering this? There's a chance I'm going to vote for BF. His suspicions seem too easy, and have you noticed that he focuses on one player per day? It's like he doesn't need to bother himself with commenting on all the rest because he already has a suspect. In my opinion, that's usually more a baddie tell than a civvie oneTurnip Head wrote:Timmer what do you think of BF?