The Syndicate

Night 1 has ended.
Day 2 has begun. The deadline is 36 hours from now at precisely 10:00 PM Eastern US/Canada time on Tuesday.

With 14 players alive, the hammer vote is the 8th.

RIP Frog, Silverwolf, and Epignosis.

I presume this means we're playing with a 1-Shot Mafia Vigilante.

If I were around for that EoD madness (which I'm sad I missed out on), I would have supported the Frog lynch and possibly moved my vote.

I need to conduct some more ISOs, look at those votes, and reevalaute, but note that I'm not sure my activity will be nearly as strong going forward. I'll try my best, but I didn't study enough this past weekend (obviously) due to sacrificing time for mafia. For now, I'm around for like a half hour tops until the afternoon/evening. Who else is here?

To add, what's currently swirling in my mind are the following questions:

1) Was either IAWY or MM (or both) being saved by the Frog train, or were they both townies as well? Given my moderate mafia read of the former and slight town of the latter, I'd suggest IAWY as more likely than MM, but who knows?

2) I'm not one for NKA, but naturally I still wonder: Who would have incentive to kill Silverwolf? Epignosis? Regarding Silver, my first guess is ika. Regarding Epi, I don't know. I need to mull over this more, but it might be meaningless to give it much thought because WIFOM.

3) Does EoD change my reads on any players? Well, Soneji's appearance needs to be ISOd, but other than that. I'm still frankly surprised by that Frog flip, so I'd like to read EoD again with that in mind.

As for me, I'll cast my first vote of the day on IAWY. I want to hear a thought from him (and Psi, but he has only posted twice).

VOTE INAWORDYES

Seems no one else is here. Bummer.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Seems no one else is here. Bummer.

Hi.

I want to hear more from PSI and IAWY.

Also would like more from Soneji and Wilgy.

Not quite caught up with all the details of EOD. Too much cray. I'll be around more later today.

Dyslexicon wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Seems no one else is here. Bummer.

Hi.

Hey, Dizzy!

Dyslexicon wrote:I want to hear more from PSI and IAWY.

Also would like more from Soneji and Wilgy.

Not quite caught up with all the details of EOD. Too much cray. I'll be around more later today.

I'm with you there. Yes, please, Soneji and Wilgy, say more too.

And yeah, I read over it, but it definitely hasn't fully sunk in.

Well, I guess I better head out myself. Study time. See you all later in the day.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I presume this means we're playing with a 1-Shot Mafia Vigilante.

Do you think Epi would be a likely extra kill for mafia N1 if they have a 1-shot? I'm making no assumptions based on these NKs other than there is an least an extra killing role in place. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Okay so I have to read through pages 21-43. I’ll kinda skim for now and even in that case I don’t think I’ll make it in time, definitely wasn’t expecting THAT many pages to show up after my latest post in page 30…

I’m mostly using CTRL+F on “Zexy” and “Vote” so I can see points aimed at me and reply to them and the important cases that made you all switch your wagons around a lot. Quotes unfortunately don’t work as long as the thread is locked So I write the tags myself… Whatever let’s go!

I'm still liking my rainbow for now. No change. I understand why you would find LC high in particular, but LC is probably the player in this game who I've played with the most (either him or MP), and I think I get good reads on him more often than not. Right now, I don't have any reason really to town read him but I certainly don't have any reason to mild scum him, nothing about his play seems off to me, and I was going for no null reads.

Understood, Golden, I’ll trust you on this one

It's going to be a slingshot, I already said what I was going to do to. Zexy is usually very good at this already whether or not she knows it. Someone MUST go bech before EOD implicit or explicit.

I don’t even know what kind of slingshot you are talking about, Frog.

9) Zexy is moderately towny via Meta. active and engaging enough. I'd like to see Zexy try to shoot for an MVP spot. IMagine this is the champs itself Zexy. Imagine we're on bulba garden. Take leadership FFS!

How drunk were you when you typed this? The chances of me shooting for MVP in games this active approach… zero? The biggest game I ever played in Bulbagarden had 1100 posts. Biggest ever played there was 1600. And I don’t mean just Day 1 xD

About MP’s questions for Psi in 22… I have my thoughts but I really feel like Psi himself should answer the questions so I can form a read on him. After that I’ll tell you what I think about that.

in any event:
... im too drunk to rememner. someone who isn't a drooler pick up on th mech implciations. I want to say MArco and/or Zexy will be able to figure this out better than most.

What kind of mechanics do you want us to figure out? Was something claimed?

I have to ISO MP as well sometime, but I already owe you Marco and Dyslexicon -_- Would definitely do those first because MP ISO is probably going to take a really long while…

Where?

Yay, I now owe you a Wilgy ISO as well -_-

Sloonei
VOTE SLOONEI
VOTE METALMARSH89
VOTE SLOONEI

Way to look townie, MetalMarsh
Idk while you did some work there with your wallposts before this all I don’t feel like your reasoning for voting Sloonei is adequate. You called him opportunistic… while what you do is opportunistic as well, I think.

Read up to 25.

As for Zexy, I feel that Zexy is similar to Marco in that they seem to be a newcomer who's putting in an honest effort to analyze other players' content and not be easily swayed by one argument over another. Both Zexy and Marco seem to be thinking for themselves and looking at things objectively, and for that I have a strong town read for both of them, given that I see no hidden baddie-motivated agenda behind that effort.

I like this point. For one a2thezebra became active and started making sounds posts which makes her look better. From the other hand, this approach helps me feel less paranoid about Marco as well.

Wagon on MM made sense. I don’t think we are done with him…

You won't be back for EoD? Man, bummer.

This should not be a problem from the next 2 day phases at least. Hopefully all the way down…

MP’s read at IAWY @ page 30 makes sense. I know many of you think MP is wolf but I think he is trying WAY too hard to be a wolf…

Dizzy trying to push the zebra wagon after it deflated is weird. Unless he is scum with the top wagon of the time (MM) I don’t understand why scum would do that…

Marco, why am I in your scummish pile in the rainbow list?

Actually, I said that I’ll ISO Wilgy but MP already did it for me. I agree that there is something scummish about him, also I don’t know Wilgy meta as much as MP does so I’ll trust him. Actually, were it not for Wilgy quirky meta, I would get a bigger scumread than what I currently have.

Something I don’t like about IAWY wagon is that ika/Silverwolf went on him buddy-buddy to make the wagon important. Again I think it was MM as the wagon back then, wonder if this is an attempt from them to shift the wagon elsewhere. Anyways, if MM ever flips scum, we have lots of stuff to look back in d1 and that’s good.

on't like Zexy's most recent post, and the fact that afaik he's left his vote the same place (without it having impact) like the whole game

That’s because the wagons at the time were a2thezebra and MP I think, Dizzy. Still, someone with 4 votes I didn’t want to push more and someone I townread. Had I shown up a bit later when MM/IAWY was the thing I’d go for MM…

Epignosis’ reason for voting Frog was bad. It was a very “easy” vote, they didn’t really analyze anything to get to that, just “I saw that single thing from a player with ~100 posts and it is scummy so here’s my vote”. I’ll excuse it since they only subbed in late in the phase, but it is not the kind of thought process I’d like to see anymore…
At 37 as of now.

Marco
Epignosis
Dyslexicon
Silverwolf
Soneji
Zexy
DrWilgy
Frog
Golden
Inawordyes
ika
Psittaciform
sig
a2thezebra
MovingPictures07
Sloonei

Now this is a rainbow list I don’t agree with, MM. Epignosis/Dyslexicon/Silverwolf/Soneji/Wilgy/IAWY too high. Golden/sig/MP/Sloonei too low -_-

I know it’s too late for me to say this but I wouldn’t go after Frog if I was around… even the slight paranoia I have developed at a time wasn’t enough to warrant a d1 lynch on a person that could self-clear through content alone AND give us lots of good insight.

And I’m caught up. Although I wanna re-read the EOD because I didn’t have too much of a clear mind when I read it just now. I also owe Dyslexicon/Marco ISOs as promised… although I lean town on Marco again. I should also do MM/IAWY because I think there has to be a lynch in there sometime.

But this all won’t happen now, sorry I promise I’ll try to do more soon and be around for this EOD… meh that’s all I’ve got for you now

MovingPictures07 wrote:To add, what's currently swirling in my mind are the following questions:

1) Was either IAWY or MM (or both) being saved by the Frog train, or were they both townies as well? Given my moderate mafia read of the former and slight town of the latter, I'd suggest IAWY as more likely than MM, but who knows?

2) I'm not one for NKA, but naturally I still wonder: Who would have incentive to kill Silverwolf? Epignosis? Regarding Silver, my first guess is ika. Regarding Epi, I don't know. I need to mull over this more, but it might be meaningless to give it much thought because WIFOM.

3) Does EoD change my reads on any players? Well, Soneji's appearance needs to be ISOd, but other than that. I'm still frankly surprised by that Frog flip, so I'd like to read EoD again with that in mind.

As for me, I'll cast my first vote of the day on IAWY. I want to hear a thought from him (and Psi, but he has only posted twice).

VOTE INAWORDYES

With Silverwolf being nightkilled Night 1 for the second consecutive game, I don't think ika would have done it. That would be too cruel.

What makes you think it was a mafia vig and not a civ vig? Epignosis did almost single-handedly get Frog lynched, and without being caught up on the thread at all. I do think Silverwolf would have been a far less likely to be vigged by a civ.

Ignore the parts about Silverwolf and Long Con/Epignosis, I guess.

More later...

Dyslexicon wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I presume this means we're playing with a 1-Shot Mafia Vigilante.

Do you think Epi would be a likely extra kill for mafia N1 if they have a 1-shot? I'm making no assumptions based on these NKs other than there is an least an extra killing role in place. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If there is a Syndicate regular or two on the mafia, then absolutely I would agree.

Epignosis was wrong about Frog, but he's very good about that sort of approach when he's a civilian. Thus, he' a very common nightkill target around here.

RIP Epi/Silver

Hope to see you play again here Frog.

I'll do some NKA later after school. However, off the top of my head I think these results point to a mafia team with members inexperienced with this set up. We have eight potential set ups right now, out of 12. We can remove C, B, 2, and 6.

Can't be a vig kill, vig is on even night only I think.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
I presume this means we're playing with a 1-Shot Mafia Vigilante.

Dyslexicon wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I presume this means we're playing with a 1-Shot Mafia Vigilante.

Do you think Epi would be a likely extra kill for mafia N1 if they have a 1-shot? I'm making no assumptions based on these NKs other than there is an least an extra killing role in place. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It could be the 1-shot mafia vig or it could be the standard town vig. We can narrow down the set-up we're playing through this knowledge. We're not playing set-up 2, 6 or B.

I will resume my catch-up.

Actually never mind C is still viable just looked back there is a regular vig. However, I highly doubt it since neither Silver nor Epi make sense for that.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:If there is a Syndicate regular or two on the mafia, then absolutely I would agree.

Epignosis was wrong about Frog, but he's very good about that sort of approach when he's a civilian. Thus, he' a very common nightkill target around here.

Well then, in that case.
Also, the rainbow list that placed Epi as second towniest, was that yours? I remember seeing it and not understanding why Epi was so high on the list considering he/LC had done close no nothing at that point. I realize this will be hindsight now, but why the towny read of him? (If it was yours, honestly don't remember..)

Meh, I'll check in every once in a while as a study break. I'm such an addict.

Dyslexicon wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I presume this means we're playing with a 1-Shot Mafia Vigilante.

Do you think Epi would be a likely extra kill for mafia N1 if they have a 1-shot? I'm making no assumptions based on these NKs other than there is an least an extra killing role in place. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hmmmm... good question. I think it's more likely for people who know Epi's hunting skills. The only other explanation I can think of is for the lulz because he just replaced in, but I can't see a mafia being that careless with a kill. Or maybe they thought he was a PR for some reason?

Zexy, I say if Psi doesn't show up halfway through this period or later that you go ahead and provide the answers to my questions for him on page 22. I'd prefer for him to answer, but he hasn't posted in quite some time.

Based on last night's kill, here are the possible setups.
I realize this doesn't narrow it down a ton, but we can rule out Scenarios B, 2, and 6 because none of those contain a vig.

sig wrote:RIP Epi/Silver

Hope to see you play again here Frog.

I'll do some NKA later after school. However, off the top of my head I think these results point to a mafia team with members inexperienced with this set up. We have eight potential set ups right now, out of 12. We can remove C, B, 2, and 6.

Can't be a vig kill, vig is on even night only I think.

We can still have C, because there is a civ vig in the one.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

sig wrote:RIP Epi/Silver

Hope to see you play again here Frog.

I'll do some NKA later after school. However, off the top of my head I think these results point to a mafia team with members inexperienced with this set up. We have eight potential set ups right now, out of 12. We can remove C, B, 2, and 6.

Can't be a vig kill, vig is on even night only I think.

We can still have C, because there is a civ vig in the one.

Yeah I didn't see that one at first, if we don't have an extra kill tomorrow we can discount the even night vig. Either way getting rid of three helps if mafia members try to role claim.

Oh please lets not have another phase of Ika vs MP vs Golden vs ?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:To add, what's currently swirling in my mind are the following questions:

1) Was either IAWY or MM (or both) being saved by the Frog train, or were they both townies as well? Given my moderate mafia read of the former and slight town of the latter, I'd suggest IAWY as more likely than MM, but who knows?

2) I'm not one for NKA, but naturally I still wonder: Who would have incentive to kill Silverwolf? Epignosis? Regarding Silver, my first guess is ika. Regarding Epi, I don't know. I need to mull over this more, but it might be meaningless to give it much thought because WIFOM.

3) Does EoD change my reads on any players? Well, Soneji's appearance needs to be ISOd, but other than that. I'm still frankly surprised by that Frog flip, so I'd like to read EoD again with that in mind.

As for me, I'll cast my first vote of the day on IAWY. I want to hear a thought from him (and Psi, but he has only posted twice).

VOTE INAWORDYES

With Silverwolf being nightkilled Night 1 for the second consecutive game, I don't think ika would have done it. That would be too cruel.

What makes you think it was a mafia vig and not a civ vig? Epignosis did almost single-handedly get Frog lynched, and without being caught up on the thread at all. I do think Silverwolf would have been a far less likely to be vigged by a civ.

Well, maybe, but Silverwolf was really starting to change her tune there regarding ika at the end. Isn't it still possible he knew she was onto him and he couldn't convince her so he gutted her for it? There are other possibilities though, for sure.

Oh, that's a really good point. I just saw both of the kill targets and immediately thought mafia vig, because as far as I can remember, nearly all of us were town reading Silver to at least some degree, and Epi seemed to take a strong presence in the thread given he replaced in very late in the phase. I didn't think about a town vig killing him for his Frog vote, that could be a possibility as well.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I presume this means we're playing with a 1-Shot Mafia Vigilante.

Do you think Epi would be a likely extra kill for mafia N1 if they have a 1-shot? I'm making no assumptions based on these NKs other than there is an least an extra killing role in place. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If there is a Syndicate regular or two on the mafia, then absolutely I would agree.

Epignosis was wrong about Frog, but he's very good about that sort of approach when he's a civilian. Thus, he' a very common nightkill target around here.

I agree with this.

sig wrote:RIP Epi/Silver

Hope to see you play again here Frog.

I'll do some NKA later after school. However, off the top of my head I think these results point to a mafia team with members inexperienced with this set up. We have eight potential set ups right now, out of 12. We can remove C, B, 2, and 6.

Can't be a vig kill, vig is on even night only I think.

How do you figure?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Based on last night's kill, here are the possible setups.

Spoiler: show

Set A

• 1x Town Jailkeeper
  1x 1-Shot Bulletproof Town
  1x Town Innocent Child
  10x Vanilla Town
  1x Mafia Roleblocker
  1x Mafia 1-Shot Vigilante
  2x Vanilla Mafia Goon

Set C

• 1x Doctor
  1x Town Tracker
  1x Town Vigilante
  10x Vanilla Town
  1x Mafia Role Cop
  1x Mafia Jailkeeper
  2x Vanilla Mafia Goon

Set D

• 2x Town Masons
  1x Town Bodyguard
  1x Town Tracker
  9x Vanilla Town
  1x 1-Shot Mafia Vigilante
  1x Mafia Ninja
  2x Vanilla Mafia Goon

Set E

• 1x 2-Shot Town Jailkeeper
  1x Town Cop w/ Night 0 town check
  11x Vanilla Town
  1x 1-Shot Mafia Vigilante
  1x Mafia Roleblocker
  2x Vanilla Mafia Goon

Set F

• 1x Town Even Night Vigilante
  1x Town Jailkeeper
  11x Vanilla Town
  1x Mafia Jack-of-all-Trades
  3x Vanilla Mafia Goon

Set 1

• 1x Town Even Night Vigilante
  1x Town Jailkeeper
  11x Vanilla Town
  1x 1-Shot Mafia Vigilante
  1x Mafia Role Cop
  2x Vanilla Mafia Goon

Set 3

• 1x 1-Shot Bulletproof Town
  2x Town Masons
  1x Town Tracker
  9x Vanilla Town
  1x Mafia Jack-of-all-Trades
  3x Vanilla Mafia Goon

Set 4

• 1x Town Vigilante
  1x Town Bodyguard
  1x 2-Shot Town Jailkeeper
  10x Vanilla Town
  1x 1-Shot Mafia Vigilante
  1x 1-Shot Mafia Bulletproof
  2x Vanilla Mafia Goon

Set 5

• 1x Town Cop w/ night 0 check
  1x Town Jailkeeper
  11x Vanilla Town
  1x 1-Shot Mafia Vigilante
  1x Mafia Jailkeeper
  2x Vanilla Mafia Goon

I realize this doesn't narrow it down a ton, but we can rule out Scenarios B, 2, and 6 because none of those contain a vig.

Sweet, thanks for this. This is a good reference.

ika wrote:VOTE MOVINGPICTURES

Care to actually explain why?

Otherwise, I'm just ignoring you, and I strongly implore everyone else to as well.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

sig wrote:RIP Epi/Silver

Hope to see you play again here Frog.

I'll do some NKA later after school. However, off the top of my head I think these results point to a mafia team with members inexperienced with this set up. We have eight potential set ups right now, out of 12. We can remove C, B, 2, and 6.

Can't be a vig kill, vig is on even night only I think.

How do you figure?

Using your extra night kill so early results in at least three world set ups being gone, that can hurt the mafia more since it narrow things down and helps the civs to figure out what world we are in. So it will hurt the mafia will claiming civ roles later in the game and make civ claims seem more real.

Dyslexicon wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:If there is a Syndicate regular or two on the mafia, then absolutely I would agree.

Epignosis was wrong about Frog, but he's very good about that sort of approach when he's a civilian. Thus, he' a very common nightkill target around here.

Well then, in that case.
Also, the rainbow list that placed Epi as second towniest, was that yours? I remember seeing it and not understanding why Epi was so high on the list considering he/LC had done close no nothing at that point. I realize this will be hindsight now, but why the towny read of him? (If it was yours, honestly don't remember..)

Mine did have him at second, yes. I also had Silverwolf listed at fourth.

It was a gut read, but I felt strongly enough about it to place him that high.

sig wrote:Oh please lets not have another phase of Ika vs MP vs Golden vs ?

Yes, I'm right there with you. That was counterproductive. If ika wants to vote for me for no reason, fine, but he's doing the town no good if he actually is town, and if he's mafia he needs to go. I'm not engaging him unless he actually has something concrete for me to address.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:VOTE MOVINGPICTURES

Care to actually explain why?

Otherwise, I'm just ignoring you, and I strongly implore everyone else to as well.

What? Why?

sig wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

sig wrote:RIP Epi/Silver

Hope to see you play again here Frog.

I'll do some NKA later after school. However, off the top of my head I think these results point to a mafia team with members inexperienced with this set up. We have eight potential set ups right now, out of 12. We can remove C, B, 2, and 6.

Can't be a vig kill, vig is on even night only I think.

How do you figure?

Using your extra night kill so early results in at least three world set ups being gone, that can hurt the mafia more since it narrow things down and helps the civs to figure out what world we are in. So it will hurt the mafia will claiming civ roles later in the game and make civ claims seem more real.

That's a good point.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:VOTE MOVINGPICTURES

Care to actually explain why?

Otherwise, I'm just ignoring you, and I strongly implore everyone else to as well.

What? Why?

He's literally given no content-based reason for voting for me other than "following Silver's read" and other similar stuff, and Silver was being absolutely closed-minded about me.

I'm more than happy to address ika if he has something for me to address, but if he's going to be a troll and just vote for me based on someone else's incorrect and disputed suspicion, then I'm not engaging him. It's a waste of time.

If you have a counterargument and think that ika is actually bringing something to the table, MM, I'm all ears. But he hasn't explained a single "read" of his that he's thrown out and, frankly, I'm annoyed at his "playstyle".

sig wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

sig wrote:RIP Epi/Silver

Hope to see you play again here Frog.

I'll do some NKA later after school. However, off the top of my head I think these results point to a mafia team with members inexperienced with this set up. We have eight potential set ups right now, out of 12. We can remove C, B, 2, and 6.

Can't be a vig kill, vig is on even night only I think.

How do you figure?

Using your extra night kill so early results in at least three world set ups being gone, that can hurt the mafia more since it narrow things down and helps the civs to figure out what world we are in. So it will hurt the mafia will claiming civ roles later in the game and make civ claims seem more real.

VOTE SIG

As I've already pointed out, there could be a civ vig and no mafia vig. This conclusion was reached on the belief that mafia made both kills last night.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:VOTE MOVINGPICTURES

Care to actually explain why?

Otherwise, I'm just ignoring you, and I strongly implore everyone else to as well.

Was scum yesterday, still scum today

my reason never changed and silver was strongly suspecting you yesterday as well and loh and behold she dies. so here you want nka? Ill give you nka

you killed silver to remove a person scum reading you

Anyway, again, I don't want to derail this thread any further and I can already feel myself getting worked up again, which is why I'm taking that stance. If any of you want to engage him, or if he starts providing reasons, then fine. Otherwise, I'm going to focus my attention on catching mafia.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

sig wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

sig wrote:RIP Epi/Silver

Hope to see you play again here Frog.

I'll do some NKA later after school. However, off the top of my head I think these results point to a mafia team with members inexperienced with this set up. We have eight potential set ups right now, out of 12. We can remove C, B, 2, and 6.

Can't be a vig kill, vig is on even night only I think.

How do you figure?

Using your extra night kill so early results in at least three world set ups being gone, that can hurt the mafia more since it narrow things down and helps the civs to figure out what world we are in. So it will hurt the mafia will claiming civ roles later in the game and make civ claims seem more real.

VOTE SIG

As I've already pointed out, there could be a civ vig and no mafia vig. This conclusion was reached on the belief that mafia made both kills last night.

ika wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:VOTE MOVINGPICTURES

Care to actually explain why?

Otherwise, I'm just ignoring you, and I strongly implore everyone else to as well.

Was scum yesterday, still scum today

my reason never changed and silver was strongly suspecting you yesterday as well and loh and behold she dies. so here you want nka? Ill give you nka

you killed silver to remove a person scum reading you

MM, the only problem I see with that is that sig just said before he believes a civ vigilante wouldn't kill Epi or Silver:

sig wrote:Actually never mind C is still viable just looked back there is a regular vig. However, I highly doubt it since neither Silver nor Epi make sense for that.

MovingPictures07 wrote:If you have a counterargument and think that ika is actually bringing something to the table, MM, I'm all ears. But he hasn't explained a single "read" of his that he's thrown out and, frankly, I'm annoyed at his "playstyle".

Alright.

I just know I would never intentionally ignore someone in the game thread.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:VOTE MOVINGPICTURES

Care to actually explain why?

Otherwise, I'm just ignoring you, and I strongly implore everyone else to as well.

Was scum yesterday, still scum today

my reason never changed and silver was strongly suspecting you yesterday as well and loh and behold she dies. so here you want nka? Ill give you nka

you killed silver to remove a person scum reading you

hey, you were the one who brought up NKA on people, its fair game to use that agisnt you as well. i could esaily see you killing epi/silver

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:If you have a counterargument and think that ika is actually bringing something to the table, MM, I'm all ears. But he hasn't explained a single "read" of his that he's thrown out and, frankly, I'm annoyed at his "playstyle".

Alright.

I just know I would never intentionally ignore someone in the game thread.

Try being the subject of his baseless accusations and then talk to me. I'm emotionally exhausted still from this nonsense last day phase. I won't actually ignore him; that's cruel, but I will be temporarily ignoring him and shifting my focus completely elsewhere if he doesn't engage me with content.

MovingPictures07 wrote:MM, the only problem I see with that is that sig just said before he believes a civ vigilante wouldn't kill Epi or Silver:

sig wrote:Actually never mind C is still viable just looked back there is a regular vig. However, I highly doubt it since neither Silver nor Epi make sense for that.

My vote was directed at him, not you.

ika wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:VOTE MOVINGPICTURES

Care to actually explain why?

Otherwise, I'm just ignoring you, and I strongly implore everyone else to as well.

Was scum yesterday, still scum today

my reason never changed and silver was strongly suspecting you yesterday as well and loh and behold she dies. so here you want nka? Ill give you nka

you killed silver to remove a person scum reading you

hey, you were the one who brought up NKA on people, its fair game to use that agisnt you as well. i could esaily see you killing epi/silver

An argument could made for practically anyone killing Epi/Silver, and I find this point highly ironic considering:
(1) Silverwolf was turning around on you quite a bit at the end there
(2) You were just on a scum team with Epi in Turf Wars

So... yeah.