The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:59 pm For what fucking purpose does wolfJack ask Speedchuck to make him look even worse after getting red peeked?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:02 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:42 pm @Elohcin is your role something that can be for both alignments? don't claim, just a y/n is enough please.

yes.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:05 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:59 pm For what fucking purpose does wolfJack ask Speedchuck to make him look even worse after getting red peeked?

For what purpose does Long Con lie about being 100% certain you're bad?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:03 pm The worst is a mafia member using a safeclaim, getting lynched, then a second mafia member using the same safeclaim after being red peeked.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:06 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:03 pm The worst is a mafia member using a safeclaim, getting lynched, then a second mafia member using the same safeclaim after being red peeked.

what?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:06 pm Anyway, it's the night phase. We're not lynching anyone tonight. If there's a vigilante out there they'll do what they do or they won't.

Jackofhearts2005, who's bad?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:10 pm Kinda putting me on the spot, Jay. If I get vigged, it won't matter and if I don't, I'll do more work. Cross my heart.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:10 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:10 pm Kinda putting me on the spot, Jay. If I get vigged, it won't matter and if I don't, I'll do more work. Cross my heart.

What? Of course it will matter if you get vigged (if you're a civilian). You say goofy shit.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:11 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:10 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:10 pm Kinda putting me on the spot, Jay. If I get vigged, it won't matter and if I don't, I'll do more work. Cross my heart.

What? Of course it will matter if you get vigged (if you're a civilian). You say goofy shit.

Nobody listens to dead townies, as you well know.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:06 pm I'll note as well that if Jack stole my role, he could verify that without outting anyone but me.

I'm okay with that. Again, assuming Jack lives that long.

I'm also not a bad target to get vestsploded if we go all the way testing this.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:11 pmNobody listens to dead townies, as you well know.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:05 pm If Jack lives through the night, we monitor this crap. Display EVERYTHING openly. And still consider lynching him before the swap happens.

I'm not a bad target, rolewise, because I'm extremely verifiable and not something that would help scum. But I'm not trusted, so if anyone has suggestions for hypothetical D3jack, let them rip!

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:15 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:05 pm If Jack lives through the night, we monitor this crap. Display EVERYTHING openly. And still consider lynching him before the swap happens.

I'm not a bad target, rolewise, because I'm extremely verifiable and not something that would help scum. But I'm not trusted, so if anyone has suggestions for hypothetical D3jack, let them rip!

Nevermind.

Speedchuck it is.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:01 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:58 pm The only middle ground I can conceive of would be @Long Con tracking Jack into nutella, which fits both worlds. Even then though we have to contend with the fact that Jack literally told us he gave shit to speedchuck and then was like oops just kidding

Not possible. Jack allegedly visited Nutella during the day, he should have been seen visiting Eloh if he's truthful and got tracked.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:14 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:11 pmNobody listens to dead townies, as you well know.

I do.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:16 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:15 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:05 pm If Jack lives through the night, we monitor this crap. Display EVERYTHING openly. And still consider lynching him before the swap happens.

I'm not a bad target, rolewise, because I'm extremely verifiable and not something that would help scum. But I'm not trusted, so if anyone has suggestions for hypothetical D3jack, let them rip!

Nevermind.

Speedchuck it is.

so speedchuck will verify it day 2 and not night 3. correct? it's a "day action"

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:16 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:15 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:05 pm If Jack lives through the night, we monitor this crap. Display EVERYTHING openly. And still consider lynching him before the swap happens.

I'm not a bad target, rolewise, because I'm extremely verifiable and not something that would help scum. But I'm not trusted, so if anyone has suggestions for hypothetical D3jack, let them rip!

Nevermind.

Speedchuck it is.

so speedchuck will verify it day 2 and not night 3. correct? it's a "day action"

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:19 pm This hour of Mafia gave me gas. I farted.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:19 pm Linki: It's not! I've been mafia with Speed twice and we barely even talked. Idk why.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:20 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:19 pm Linki: It's not! I've been mafia with Speed twice and we barely even talked. Idk why.

Because I can't access Chatzy during the day. And I sleep at night.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:16 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:01 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:58 pm The only middle ground I can conceive of would be @Long Con tracking Jack into nutella, which fits both worlds. Even then though we have to contend with the fact that Jack literally told us he gave shit to speedchuck and then was like oops just kidding

Not possible. Jack allegedly visited Nutella during the day, he should have been seen visiting Eloh if he's truthful and got tracked.

I am not gonna lie. I am very confused by everything that has been said in the past few hours.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:13 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:19 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:42 pm MacDougall and Dragon D. Luffy

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:54 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:05 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:32 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:26 am


Yet here you are with zero reads. What have you accomplished?

What is this, a job interview?

I don't have to accomplish shit.

This feels fake and reinforces DDL/Jay not w/w.

I felt quite the opposite to this Jack. It's a perfectly natural reaction from DDL to Jay spew.

Mac stood in DDL's defense when Jack said he felt fake. It's certainly white-knighting. The meaning of that will be easier to judge as I observe the trend that I know will develop.

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:44 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:38 am I feel some of the people townreading me are bad. At least one of them

Feels like one of those games where I manage to post in a very obvious civ way which convinces people, but baddies already noticed that and are blending in.

I might get NKd soon.

I feel like I've been able to civ read you better lately. Things that I used to incorrectly read you as Mafia for I now see as civ traits. Tbh it was mostly my cynicism because I used to read you bad for having strong insights that I chalked up to TMI but I've come to realise that we sort of see the game similarly. The way that I have been handling our interactions in games lately is a lot of the reason I feel my civilian game has improved. That and taking a back seat more. I realised that even though I have strong insight into scum, that brute forcing my opinions into the thread was counterintuitive to civilian wins and started playing more cerebrally. Less plaudits but stronger results. Only took me 8 years.

DDL suggested there might be a mafioso among the people reading him as a civilian. He did not specifically name Mac, but Mac nonetheless felt the need to respond. This is severe over-justification, and I think it's nice for DDL that it wasn't a two-way interaction. If he wanted to distance from Mac I'd expect him to name Mac.

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:37 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:05 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:32 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:26 am


Yet here you are with zero reads. What have you accomplished?

What is this, a job interview?

I don't have to accomplish shit.

This feels fake and reinforces DDL/Jay not w/w.

Looping back around on this one I questioned before, I got the distinctly opposite impression from reading that DDL post. It's exactly how I would have felt. Don't like that we're not on the same page in this game Jack. My face has scrunched up in confusion from several of your posts.

This is an extension of the first point. Mac used his civilian read on DDL as a conduit to shit on Jack, which is certainly compatible with TMI.

Dark green in Mac's rainbow -- unsurprising

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:29 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:42 pm I am trying to make heads or tails of this mac juliets weirdness and nope.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:02 pm Nutella hiding behind a posting gimmick and throwing TMI all over the place then giving weak player salad suspicions without sincerity and preempting suspicion = die.

I don't wanna parrot people but this is the third time someone attacks nutella and I agree with it.

Let's [VOTE: nutella] aubergine before Mac also joins the ranks of the "maybe nutella is a civ" crew too and I lose my point of support.

DDL supported Mac against nutella. He did say that Mac's attack was the third he agreed with, lending some plausibility to the notion that Mac is only an incidental part of this. DDL didn't mention the other people though.

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:48 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:46 am Pretty sure it was you who actually told me to start doing that quite a while ago too.

Not sure if I told it to you directly, but it is reqlly something I did myself. I used to tunnel vision a lot more.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:49 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:48 am Oh yeah it's in my sig hahaha.

Oh that.

Okay whatever

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:07 pm You mean that nagging feeling Mac is pocketing me? I have it too.

It would be a creative approach for mafia teammates to take here -- one of them strongly supports the other, while the reverse is distancing by way of "pocketing". I don't get that impression. DDL was on to Mac's shit.

DDL's vote ended the day on nutella.

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Conclusion: I don't think DDL is a likely teammate of Mac.

Where’s the part of this that explains why DDL and Mac aren’t teamed?

This reads like a light green to yellow analysis.

not one mention in the last 2 pages of jack's iso lead to DDL except this prod to jay. ddl is supposed to be jack's biggest suspect.

ddl bad.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:36 pm Holy moly, I leave for an hour and a half and all hell breaks loose. I'm not sure I'm grasping all of it yet.

Someone, anyone, help me understand why nutella died if she had a vest?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:32 pm @JaggedJimmyJay
Nova's bad, too.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:42 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:32 pm @JaggedJimmyJay
Nova's bad, too.

Also, Jack what do you see about nova? I have been antsy about him not looking the same as the nova I saw in the last 3 games I played with him where he was civ, but he has a plausible excuse (school).

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:43 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:42 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:32 pm @JaggedJimmyJay
Nova's bad, too.

Also, Jack what do you see about nova? I have been antsy about him not looking the same as the nova I saw in the last 3 games I played with him where he was civ, but he has a plausible excuse (school).

Nova said Jack should be vigged, therefore bad.

I think that's the thought process anyway.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:42 pm
Thanks dunya, that is a mafia who can break through protection right?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:47 pm Epi doesn't even do insane cops (right?) LC probably just a baddie.

Wasn't Mac like "Of all the quiet people, I'm thinking about LC the most?" or some shit?

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:42 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:32 pm @JaggedJimmyJay
Nova's bad, too.

Also, Jack what do you see about nova? I have been antsy about him not looking the same as the nova I saw in the last 3 games I played with him where he was civ, but he has a plausible excuse (school).

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:54 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:47 pm Epi doesn't even do insane cops (right?) LC probably just a baddie.

Wasn't Mac like "Of all the quiet people, I'm thinking about LC the most?" or some shit?

I'm pretty sure I've never been in an Epic game where there was an insane cop OR a strongman.