The Syndicate

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:19 pm Michelle is Town. I'm 95% confident.

I have not seen her wolf game which is the sole reason the number is less than a hundred.

I have had a good record of always finding her correctly as town.

She is hitting her town marker of, as Dizzy would say it, the "erect finger tell".

In which she's sternly telling people to shoo off, because she is town and from her point of view she is in the right.

Depending on my mood I can also fall into that kind of playstyle, therefore I can empathize with it.

Realistically there should be nothing stopping Michelle from faking it as wolf, however I am yet to see evidence that she would. I would because I am very passionate about Mafia, to the extend that I wouldn't mind going all-in just for the win, even towards people who are correctly scumreading me. I think a lot of people would feel uncomfortable at the prospect of doing that, though.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:44 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:19 pm Michelle is Town. I'm 95% confident.

I have not seen her wolf game which is the sole reason the number is less than a hundred.

I have had a good record of always finding her correctly as town.

She is hitting her town marker of, as Dizzy would say it, the "erect finger tell".

In which she's sternly telling people to shoo off, because she is town and from her point of view she is in the right.

Depending on my mood I can also fall into that kind of playstyle, therefore I can empathize with it.

Realistically there should be nothing stopping Michelle from faking it as wolf, however I am yet to see evidence that she would. I would because I am very passionate about Mafia, to the extend that I wouldn't mind going all-in just for the win, even towards people who are correctly scumreading me. I think a lot of people would feel uncomfortable at the prospect of doing that, though.

you say you don't know my scum game
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/27896
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/28078
https://www.mafiacolosseum.com/threads/ ... post-34220
3 scum games, I don't rand scum so often. I have better games on alt accounts probably because I was RPing in them a little more.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:50 pm I don't think the "erect finger tell" applies to Long Con (him sassily telling people how wrong they are when scumreading him and how poorly they're playing). He has done this as Mafia many times. I'm just repeating this @ anyone who is choosing to townread him due to that.

@Esooa Why is Long Con town for you? Sorry if I've missed it.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:58 pm Good morning

why is SPF mafia if Michelle is town

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:04 pm 2) isn't a salient point. It argues that we shouldn't be towncoring SPF so quickly, but it doesn't show how she's mafia.

Your argument that SPF is mafia if Michelle is town boils down to: Michelle reads people well and she thinks SPF is mafia, and I have a gut feeling that SPF is mafia. Setting aside the gut feeling for the moment, what makes you think Michelle's SPF read is the read to sheep, as opposed to any of her other reads?

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:07 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:04 pm 2) isn't a salient point. It argues that we shouldn't be towncoring SPF so quickly, but it doesn't show how she's mafia.

Your argument that SPF is mafia if Michelle is town boils down to: Michelle reads people well and she thinks SPF is mafia, and I have a gut feeling that SPF is mafia. Setting aside the gut feeling for the moment, what makes you think Michelle's SPF read is the read to sheep, as opposed to any of her other reads?

2) might not be a salient point but I don't care because I'm town and I'm spewing my thoughts as I go. They are connected. If I was Mafia maybe they would have been more logical and salient but I am not.

I have a gut feeling that SPF is Mafia. That's it. Full stop. The other things that I've mentioned were reinforcements to this. They don't depend on it. I'm not sheeping Michelle.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:08 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:07 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:04 pm 2) isn't a salient point. It argues that we shouldn't be towncoring SPF so quickly, but it doesn't show how she's mafia.

Your argument that SPF is mafia if Michelle is town boils down to: Michelle reads people well and she thinks SPF is mafia, and I have a gut feeling that SPF is mafia. Setting aside the gut feeling for the moment, what makes you think Michelle's SPF read is the read to sheep, as opposed to any of her other reads?

2) might not be a salient point but I don't care because I'm town and I'm spewing my thoughts as I go. They are connected. If I was Mafia maybe they would have been more logical and salient but I am not.

I have a gut feeling that SPF is Mafia. That's it. Full stop. The other things that I've mentioned were reinforcements to this. They don't depend on it. I'm not sheeping Michelle.

You said "SPF might be mafia cuz Michelle town", which seems to indicate that your read on SPF is based on Michelle being town?

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:08 pm alison could be mafia imo

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:09 pm Okay. I said something logically incoherent. I'm town so I don't care.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:10 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:09 pm Okay. I said something logically incoherent. I'm town so I don't care.

Where do you stand on Mac?

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:14 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:11 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:35 am I think mac is town

Why?

He seems like his typical spammy neurotic funny town mac self

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:11 pm I think the most likely scum rn is doom

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:07 pm So why is SPF the read to sheep from Michelle? Michelle hasn't even been banging the SPF drum that much recently.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:59 pm I am not moved by LC/Michelle interactions the past page or so.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:22 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:20 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:14 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:13 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:11 am I think michelle might be town here, it feels like a meta read from my sub conscious lol

she kinda towntold earlier when i engaged w/her

Where did she do that? Did I miss it?

it's this post - http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 60#p704660

a big part of the reason why i find it towny is because of the amount of conviction underlying that post. when she was scum in the finales, her reactions to being scumread were pretty stilted/uncomfortable, but the aggression she showed in that post felt somewhat authentic to me

she also dropped an "i'm not mad, i'm just disappointed"-esque line, and that type of ATE always gets to me lol

I don't think this is out of Michelle's scum range necessarily but I agree it's townie, yeah.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:34 pm Why is JJJ getting a free pass? Why is his scum game getting underestimated and disrespected?

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:37 pm Honestly, why is DOOM also getting a free pass?

I understand Ellie and perhaps Grogu, they're both talismans and adorable, but why are people ignoring DOOM?

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:31 am I think lc is town

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:48 pm I need to be honest. I can't read Long Con. I shouldn't fake the confidence and say a number just for the sake of keeping my "image".

Long Con has often times faked frustration as Mafia. It's not a towntell for him.

He has slanked and been active as either alignment. Neither of these things are towntells or scumtells for him.

Actually let me double think on that claim. Have I seen him active as town? @Long Con would you call yourself as active as Town as you are when you are Mafia?

Am I wrong to think that you are more enthusiastic about the game when you are Mafia or 3P compared to when you are Town?

Anyway. Having contrarian or non-contrarian reads is also a thing I've seen him do as either alignments.

I don't think that people realize just how hard/impossible he is to read.

From my personal and subjective point of view, everyone who claims that they can read Long Con with confidence is faking that confidence.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:40 am Most importantly I managed to do this

MacDougall248
nutella170
tutuu157
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME137
staypositivefriend125
Alison123
Michelle92
Made89
Esooa75
JaggedJimmyJay73
DkKoba70
Long Con57
EllieDelight53
Grogu35
DaughterOfOmega26
Marmot11
Hally1
juliets1

Suck it nerds. I am your volume clear god.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:43 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:31 am I think lc is town

Jeez, don't lose your nerve now!

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:48 pm I need to be honest. I can't read Long Con. I shouldn't fake the confidence and say a number just for the sake of keeping my "image".

Long Con has often times faked frustration as Mafia. It's not a towntell for him.

He has slanked and been active as either alignment. Neither of these things are towntells or scumtells for him.

Actually let me double think on that claim. Have I seen him active as town? @Long Con would you call yourself as active as Town as you are when you are Mafia?

Am I wrong to think that you are more enthusiastic about the game when you are Mafia or 3P compared to when you are Town?

Anyway. Having contrarian or non-contrarian reads is also a thing I've seen him do as either alignments.

I don't think that people realize just how hard/impossible he is to read.

From my personal and subjective point of view, everyone who claims that they can read Long Con with confidence is faking that confidence.

How active I am depends on when we are talking about in the game

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:51 am Alright I guess it's safe to do this...

Here's my reads

Lock Clear -

Grogu
Made

Town -

Marmot
SPF
Tutuu
Michelle

Null -

Jay
Alison
Nutella
LC

Lean Scum -

Ellie
DoO

Lock Scum -

Esooa
DKKoba
Nanook

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:57 am I don't have the energy to make a 260 post catch up thats fake. That was pure af. I went from no posting to outposting everyone in a catch up. Good luck trying to push me.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:17 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:52 am see this esooa post for instance

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:19 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:19 am Dk is inno child by the way. Threadspewed/TMI'd out the ass and has not trended down in terms of tone after being townread by half the game.

disagree, half out of spite

this is both of them distilled down to their very town meta essence... these two posts could nary better summarise who these two people are as town aligned players

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:03 pm there was a game somewhat recently where i got mad at long con for being super petty. i can't find it and i want to draw comparisons. someone please remember thanks

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:44 am My name is Giovanni Giorgio but everybody calls me Giorgio

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:31 am I think lc is town

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:11 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:10 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:31 am Now mi scusi I must go back to bed

beninteso, buonanotte ^^

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:31 am I think lc is town

metoo.gif

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:44 am My name is Giovanni Giorgio but everybody calls me Giorgio

GG

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:47 am Sheeping eso cuz shes the goat

Im not calling my vote hehe sue me hehe

never saw Esooa wolfing?
I don't sheep usually, I really make my own reads, explained or not
Now I think LC is v because the wagon is too big. That may be a big balls play from wolves, but idk though

okay what the "wagon is too big" thing makes no sense

imo you're very likely scum by the way

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:12 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:03 pm there was a game somewhat recently where i got mad at long con for being super petty. i can't find it and i want to draw comparisons. someone please remember thanks

Was I in it?

Not sure what you define as petty. I like the word frustration. LC does that a lot as Mafia. Not sure if I remember it as Town. Well I remember once when I CC'd him and got him yeeted and I rubbed it in, but that was understandable.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:19 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:12 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:03 pm there was a game somewhat recently where i got mad at long con for being super petty. i can't find it and i want to draw comparisons. someone please remember thanks

Was I in it?

Not sure what you define as petty. I like the word frustration. LC does that a lot as Mafia. Not sure if I remember it as Town. Well I remember once when I CC'd him and got him yeeted and I rubbed it in, but that was understandable.

i checked Grasslands (our only game together, tutuu) and i don't think it was that. i can't even remember what his alignment was. i just remember seeing very similar "you arrogant fools are chopping me, ha ha ha ha so dumb" type posts. it's driving me nuts

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:19 pm Michelle is Town. I'm 95% confident.

I have not seen her wolf game which is the sole reason the number is less than a hundred.

I have had a good record of always finding her correctly as town.

She is hitting her town marker of, as Dizzy would say it, the "erect finger tell".

In which she's sternly telling people to shoo off, because she is town and from her point of view she is in the right.

Depending on my mood I can also fall into that kind of playstyle, therefore I can empathize with it.

Realistically there should be nothing stopping Michelle from faking it as wolf, however I am yet to see evidence that she would. I would because I am very passionate about Mafia, to the extend that I wouldn't mind going all-in just for the win, even towards people who are correctly scumreading me. I think a lot of people would feel uncomfortable at the prospect of doing that, though.