Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I'd say erasure of ego but I guess that's p much the same thing, so, trueJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:23 am Pride is not the opposite of shame, but it’s source. True humility is the only antidote to shame.
Jack, you know the drill, it's time to get onboard with the wagon.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:26 amAnd then Big Bird decapitated a man with a stop sign.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:25 amHonestly, that's beautiful.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:24 amI played in a Sesame Street game and the Count was required to keep up with the vote tally and regularly post it with an ah ah ah.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:20 amBack in my day we counted votes manually and the players actively participated with vote counts. UPHILL. BOTH WAYS.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:19 amI mean, I don't often complain about site features, but that's probably because I'm from a feature rich forum which has turned me into this entitled little prick.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:18 amWay to ruin it.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:16 am @IBA you need to use the pole, the text vote feature laughably does nothing.
kMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:28 ameh just forget what I said after you brought up the champs game it was hostile defensiveness all the way downIBA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:27 amYeah that's fair. I'll try to keep an open mind and have at least gotten it out of my system. Those cards on the table, though, regardless of personality, I feel and will act generally on my belief that deferring to any real or perceived "leader" or authority as town is a bad strategy and bad gameplay, just as a simple matter of decision-making, and this is just as a strategy and nonwithstanding my RL position as an anarcho-communist, which may or may not be a factor in that.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:19 amI dispute your characterisation and I have won more town games than I've lost and I've played a lot dude. You are casting a lot of judgement for a person who read a single game of mine. It would be discerning to withhold judgement pending some statistically viable data.IBA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:09 amRight so this is the problem with townleaders, you think it is not only reasonable but optimal for you to dictate what other people think, and anyone who opposes this is either scum or a noob.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:05 am IBA is not the person to be having discussions about views on the game. He has obtuse ones and will defend them as though they are empirical. Anyone who engages him on this who knows him is probably looking for reasons to upset the gamestate.
But mafia is a game about consensus building. This is why you lose games for towns, short of just when you're a wolf I guess, because trying to assume decision-making for the entire town doesn't work. It's open to manipulation from every angle by scum, even when the self-appointed townleader IS town, and you're neutering one of the town's biggest weapons which is the wisdom of crowds.
I am not someone who approaches games with the same mentality every time. I also have changed a great deal as a player since then. I'd appreciate if you would give me the benefit of the doubt on this otherwise this game will be a suckfest.
I apologise for being callous in my reaction.
Long story short I'm up for trying to be more productive etc. but I'm not gonna play ball with the idea that anyone should be deferring to anyone else's judgments per se.
Honestly, I don't believe anyone should defer to other people's judgement either.IBA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:27 am
Yeah that's fair. I'll try to keep an open mind and have at least gotten it out of my system. Those cards on the table, though, regardless of personality, I feel and will act generally on my belief that deferring to any real or perceived "leader" or authority as town is a bad strategy and bad gameplay, just as a simple matter of decision-making, and this is just as a strategy and nonwithstanding my RL position as an anarcho-communist, which may or may not be a factor in that.
Long story short I'm up for trying to be more productive etc. but I'm not gonna play ball with the idea that anyone should be deferring to anyone else's judgments per se.
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:19 amI mean, I don't often complain about site features, but that's probably because I'm from a feature rich forum which has turned me into this entitled little prick.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:18 amWay to ruin it.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:16 am @IBA you need to use the pole, the text vote feature laughably does nothing.
I don't understand this line of thought when we have caught scumMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:34 am its so far from eod so I am not sure why you're trying so hard
what do you expect to accomplish in the additional time other than bicker with IBA, make peace (or not) and eventually vote Sig anyway.Ye boi, plz vote Sig now. TyGuillotine wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:37 amNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:19 amI mean, I don't often complain about site features, but that's probably because I'm from a feature rich forum which has turned me into this entitled little prick.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:18 amWay to ruin it.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:16 am @IBA you need to use the pole, the text vote feature laughably does nothing.
BB plz, I stopped tunneling for you.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:36 amHonestly, I don't believe anyone should defer to other people's judgement either.IBA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:27 am
Yeah that's fair. I'll try to keep an open mind and have at least gotten it out of my system. Those cards on the table, though, regardless of personality, I feel and will act generally on my belief that deferring to any real or perceived "leader" or authority as town is a bad strategy and bad gameplay, just as a simple matter of decision-making, and this is just as a strategy and nonwithstanding my RL position as an anarcho-communist, which may or may not be a factor in that.
Long story short I'm up for trying to be more productive etc. but I'm not gonna play ball with the idea that anyone should be deferring to anyone else's judgments per se.
Compromise between town can be important, but that's more agreement than "Follow".
Even townclear by cop can be an idiot.
The only exception is games with private communication when a townclear gets a network.
But tbh I prefer no free private comms.
Or maybe we can have further discussions that we can look back over later?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:38 amI don't understand this line of thought when we have caught scumMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:34 am its so far from eod so I am not sure why you're trying so hardwhat do you expect to accomplish in the additional time other than bicker with IBA, make peace (or not) and eventually vote Sig anyway.
Yo. Second wagon before we talk of hammers my dude.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:40 amBB plz, I stopped tunneling for you.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:36 amHonestly, I don't believe anyone should defer to other people's judgement either.IBA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:27 am
Yeah that's fair. I'll try to keep an open mind and have at least gotten it out of my system. Those cards on the table, though, regardless of personality, I feel and will act generally on my belief that deferring to any real or perceived "leader" or authority as town is a bad strategy and bad gameplay, just as a simple matter of decision-making, and this is just as a strategy and nonwithstanding my RL position as an anarcho-communist, which may or may not be a factor in that.
Long story short I'm up for trying to be more productive etc. but I'm not gonna play ball with the idea that anyone should be deferring to anyone else's judgments per se.
Compromise between town can be important, but that's more agreement than "Follow".
Even townclear by cop can be an idiot.
The only exception is games with private communication when a townclear gets a network.
But tbh I prefer no free private comms.
Honestly, I thought coordinating 1 chop would be impossible, now that we're almost there, I can't be arsed thinking about a second chop, it's not like lomo deserves to live based on the event.
or based on his ISONotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:42 amHonestly, I thought coordinating 1 chop would be impossible, now that we're almost there, I can't be arsed thinking about a second chop, it's not like lomo deserves to live based on the event.
Exactly, so no harm no foul.KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:43 amor based on his ISONotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:42 amHonestly, I thought coordinating 1 chop would be impossible, now that we're almost there, I can't be arsed thinking about a second chop, it's not like lomo deserves to live based on the event.
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:44 am I mean, TSP second wagon is ideal, but allow me to doubt 2 good wagons getting through at deadline.
how is sig outed mafia exactly?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:46 am I'm not used to playing with such hesitant players who give scum room to play tbh.
It's this tingling sensation in my anusMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:46 amhow is sig outed mafia exactly?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:46 am I'm not used to playing with such hesitant players who give scum room to play tbh.
?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:33 am @Felicis I know you're reading, last chance to change the associative you have with Sig.
@Jackofhearts2005 can you add tingling anus reads to our community book of memes plzNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:47 amIt's this tingling sensation in my anusMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:46 amhow is sig outed mafia exactly?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:46 am I'm not used to playing with such hesitant players who give scum room to play tbh.
I vote Sig, he flips mafia, I vote you tomorrow by association, not sure how I could make that more clear.Felicis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:47 am?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:33 am @Felicis I know you're reading, last chance to change the associative you have with Sig.
What do you mean? I have voted lomo for now but I don't really understand why that would mean anything about me and Sig at this point tho? Also I'm not sure I get this wording, did you mean to say "last chance to change the association you have with Sig?", i.e. was it a typo?
Okay.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:47 amIt's this tingling sensation in my anusMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:46 amhow is sig outed mafia exactly?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:46 am I'm not used to playing with such hesitant players who give scum room to play tbh.
Lol well you could stand to make it clearer, because I'm not sure where I've shown that I'm associated with Sig? I said extreeeeeeemely early on that I liked something he said but then reverted to a meh read cuz he didn't make me feel super towny anymore, just null, meh. I responded to I think HK about that earlier as well when they asked me about Sig. But you do you I guess?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:48 amI vote Sig, he flips mafia, I vote you tomorrow by association, not sure how I could make that more clear.Felicis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:47 am?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:33 am @Felicis I know you're reading, last chance to change the associative you have with Sig.
What do you mean? I have voted lomo for now but I don't really understand why that would mean anything about me and Sig at this point tho? Also I'm not sure I get this wording, did you mean to say "last chance to change the association you have with Sig?", i.e. was it a typo?
Wildly optimistic but feels townie tooNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:51 am I feel like this game is going to be over by PoE once Sig flips mafia (falcon vote is hilarious).
I'm not trying to kinkshame but this isn't the time or the place
what about Dana imoMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:00 am @Seanzie @lost monkey @MartinGG99 @Naviya @falcon45ca
gth reads on each other plz
I think this might just be for the people in the event for now if I'm understanding Mac's postKZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:04 amwhat about Dana imoMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:00 am @Seanzie @lost monkey @MartinGG99 @Naviya @falcon45ca
gth reads on each other plz
ohFelicis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:05 amI think this might just be for the people in the event for now if I'm understanding Mac's postKZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:04 amwhat about Dana imoMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:00 am @Seanzie @lost monkey @MartinGG99 @Naviya @falcon45ca
gth reads on each other plz
yes the eventKZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:04 amwhat about Dana imoMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:00 am @Seanzie @lost monkey @MartinGG99 @Naviya @falcon45ca
gth reads on each other plz
