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Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:55 am
by TonyStarkPrime
we're not doing mac v ender today and i kinda also don't want to do alison v dizzy today

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:56 am
by EnderWiggin
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:55 am we're not doing mac v ender today and i kinda also don't want to do alison v dizzy today
Finish re-reading then tell me why.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:57 am
by MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:55 am we're not doing mac v ender today and i kinda also don't want to do alison v dizzy today
why

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:57 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Alison wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:27 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:23 pm I really don't think Alison treats me this way if she's town. She's straight up ignoring everything that should make me town to her, and then saying I'm doing stuff that I'm not actual doing (or not doing stuff that I'm actually doing). Am I the only one seeing this? At this point I'm just chop whoever of me and Alison you prefer, if whoever flips town, flip the other. That's probably objectively bad, but in this game I can't really see myself changing my opinion on Alison. If we're both town then wtf happened tbh
I'm down for this.
this is good and the fact that this didn't go down means like ???

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:57 am
by TonyStarkPrime
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:56 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:55 am we're not doing mac v ender today and i kinda also don't want to do alison v dizzy today
Finish re-reading then tell me why.
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:57 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:55 am we're not doing mac v ender today and i kinda also don't want to do alison v dizzy today
why
well right now it's because apparently this game is about players starting fight clubs with each other in which nobody dies

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:58 am
by EnderWiggin
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:57 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:56 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:55 am we're not doing mac v ender today and i kinda also don't want to do alison v dizzy today
Finish re-reading then tell me why.
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:57 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:55 am we're not doing mac v ender today and i kinda also don't want to do alison v dizzy today
why
well right now it's because apparently this game is about players starting fight clubs with each other in which nobody dies
What if I'm trying to make Mac vs Ender actually die.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:58 am
by EnderWiggin
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:57 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:56 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:55 am we're not doing mac v ender today and i kinda also don't want to do alison v dizzy today
Finish re-reading then tell me why.
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:57 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:55 am we're not doing mac v ender today and i kinda also don't want to do alison v dizzy today
why
well right now it's because apparently this game is about players starting fight clubs with each other in which nobody dies
ALSO I tried to get Alison yeeted yesterday when the counterwagon was Bo. So I've explicitly been trying to make fight clubs resolve.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:59 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Alison wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:10 pm TonyStarkPrime - Hard POE. Has done nothing, what little posting he's had has been uninspiring to wolfy (eg. "If Alison and Dizzy are fighting, Alison is probably a wolf" is a ridiculous take).
i actually still think it's a darn good take

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:00 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Lu Ren wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:23 pm if y'all actually kill alison i have no words

she was obviously town d1 and she's even more obviously town right now
why do you think this

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:03 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:46 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:42 pmIt's not about being inside/outside of wolf range. I think Alison should have died D1 and I think that would have been way better for town, but I can't help but think that killing Alison here is a mistake because I do think she's just a L0 towny that's tunneled.
I've never seen Alison have such a bad tunnel as town. I mean, I haven't seen all her town games, but I haven't seen and don't really expect that.
she does it pretty frequently tbh (she might disagree with this characterization of her play)

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:03 am
by Dyslexicon
I'm liking these posts from TSP, if only for a new perspective.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:03 am
by Alison
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:54 am
Alison wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:52 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:39 am Hey Alison, what is your take on the Mac/Ender Thunderdome?
I'm questioning why the thunderdome is between you two in the first place, but insofar as everyone else seems to have silently agreed this is what we're doing I'd rather vote you over Mac.

I'd prefer to vote Dizzy over any other slot though.
I want to know your reasons behind me > Mac.
I find it difficult to verbalize my feelings here but it's probably a combination of "other players I townread seem to suspect you" + "you're in a better position to be deepwolfing" + "Mac has Alisonsided harder".

Why's Mac the tdome you wanna push over all else?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:03 am
by Dyslexicon
Alison wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:08 am This game would be a lot easier with a Dizzy flip. BK exe gave us nothing.
Have you read all my posts this game or just some of my posts?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:03 am
by TonyStarkPrime
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:58 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:55 pm BK feels like a good vig target
Mountainous.

The advantage of BK is that there is an associative with Alison.

The advantage of TSP is that we get to be in a game without TSP.
ok this is actually the first thing you said that made me not want to punch you

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:05 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:02 pm If not Alison, I'd rather Nanook or TPS than Belzy.

Her early play doesn't fit her scum style, it's too jokey and taunting, and I don't think she'd deliberately go for that style on a newer site as scum. Like, it's not really how Belzy talks.

Also, I'm actually doubting more and more on my Alison read, plus finding a way to consolidate it.
tony prime stark

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:05 am
by Dyslexicon
In a thunderdome between Ender and Mac I'd vote both lol

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:05 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Luckbox Inc wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:18 pm TSP is a good wolf right?

Is this sort of low-content play within his meta?
this is where I get to say "have we met"

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:05 am
by Alison
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:03 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:46 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:42 pmIt's not about being inside/outside of wolf range. I think Alison should have died D1 and I think that would have been way better for town, but I can't help but think that killing Alison here is a mistake because I do think she's just a L0 towny that's tunneled.
I've never seen Alison have such a bad tunnel as town. I mean, I haven't seen all her town games, but I haven't seen and don't really expect that.
she does it pretty frequently tbh (she might disagree with this characterization of her play)
I tunnel a lot. I think my tunnels are right more often than they're wrong. I do tunnel wrongly sometimes, and I rarely feel regret for it because I'm a bloodthirsty player.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:06 am
by Dyslexicon
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:05 amtony prime stark
Funny thing is, I wrote TPS, thought "Wait, that feels different", looked at your name to verify and went "No, it's correct". Dyslexic on today

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:06 am
by Alison
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:03 am
Alison wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:08 am This game would be a lot easier with a Dizzy flip. BK exe gave us nothing.
Have you read all my posts this game or just some of my posts?
Some. I didn't read every word of your gigantic readslist and I skipped past the last few bits of EOD and went straight to the result

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:07 am
by TonyStarkPrime
I think like the accurate read is that TSP either max posts or min posts and as a wolf tsp never min posts but I just declared my intention to max post and therefore I'm not sure that the bayes applies anymore

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:08 am
by TonyStarkPrime
in this case that was more time dependent but also legitimately speaking if I had rolled wolf I would have made time for psychological reasons that I cannot fully explain

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:10 am
by Dyslexicon
Alison wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:05 amI tunnel a lot. I think my tunnels are right more often than they're wrong. I do tunnel wrongly sometimes, and I rarely feel regret for it because I'm a bloodthirsty player.
Oh ok. Cause I'm having a worse time because of your tunnel.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:11 am
by EnderWiggin
Alison wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:03 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:54 am
Alison wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:52 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:39 am Hey Alison, what is your take on the Mac/Ender Thunderdome?
I'm questioning why the thunderdome is between you two in the first place, but insofar as everyone else seems to have silently agreed this is what we're doing I'd rather vote you over Mac.

I'd prefer to vote Dizzy over any other slot though.
I want to know your reasons behind me > Mac.
I find it difficult to verbalize my feelings here but it's probably a combination of "other players I townread seem to suspect you" + "you're in a better position to be deepwolfing" + "Mac has Alisonsided harder".

Why's Mac the tdome you wanna push over all else?
I figured the Alisonsided was part of it.

Mac's play EOD yesterday was bad and his later play reminds me a lot of African Bird where I caught him as wolf.

Without the Kami w/w theatre.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:11 am
by TonyStarkPrime
fingersplints wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:55 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:51 pm
fingersplints wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:50 pm And how did people settle on bo who replaced in over someone like tsp who also hasn’t contributed a lot

(Unless tsp started contributing a ton when I wasn’t around today)
TSP has not contributed a lot. Idk why it is BK over TSP.
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:51 pm TSP hasn't contributed a lot.
Ok well I voted for tsp

I’d be curious to hear from the three who voted bo what their points on bo are and why over tsp
voting for tsp is wolfy

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:11 am
by Dyslexicon
Alison wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:06 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:03 am
Alison wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:08 am This game would be a lot easier with a Dizzy flip. BK exe gave us nothing.
Have you read all my posts this game or just some of my posts?
Some. I didn't read every word of your gigantic readslist and I skipped past the last few bits of EOD and went straight to the result
At least you're honest?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 2]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:12 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Luckbox Inc wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:58 pm
fingersplints wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:45 pm Ok so looks like Alison and bo each three. My gut still says Alison town, so I’d probably prefer bo but I don’t know if this Alison suspicion is going to monopolise every day might be better to just get it over with

Can someone quickly summarise points on bo sorry
fingers wolfin
good read

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:12 am
by Dyslexicon
Maybe I'm not holding Alison to a too high standard and she's just a wolf. Man, what time has in store for us.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:13 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Alison
4
22%
Voters: EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, BoKnows, Seanzie

Belzy / BoKnows
4
22%
Voters: NotAnAxehole, MacDougall, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Lu Ren

Dyslexicon
1
6%
Voters: Alison

fingersplints
1
6%
Voters: Luckbox Inc

TonyStarkPrime
2
11%
Voters: falcon45ca, fingersplints

ok so pot kettle but like wow is this a crazy vote count

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:14 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:01 pm I dove into some of Alisons recent games during the night, and I think I’ve probably been wrong and she’s just town. In trying to explain it I’d say her dismissiveness in Space Invaders is more cold and methodical, whereas I see a combativeness/dismissiveness that is more openly angry and “warm”, in that sense, in her recent town games. And that’s more like what she’s been putting out this game, I think. She’s also been somewhat tunnel visioned there. I’ve probably held her to an unreasonable standard tbh. Really the post I doubt Alison makes as scum is the one to Axe, telling him he’s an egotistical player. I still have problems with Alison’s play, but I don’t really think it’s my problem anymore.

If Alison is town, I’m left with an immediate pool of Ender, Nanook, Mac and TPS. I’d say Lu Ren and Fingers in my side vision, but I don’t really feel it. This is more on the top of head takes.
huh

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:16 am
by TonyStarkPrime
i made it to the end and I actually have no clue why we're doing ender v mac today it just seems like it happened

but also ender can be a wolf here idk

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:16 am
by Dyslexicon
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:14 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:01 pm I dove into some of Alisons recent games during the night, and I think I’ve probably been wrong and she’s just town. In trying to explain it I’d say her dismissiveness in Space Invaders is more cold and methodical, whereas I see a combativeness/dismissiveness that is more openly angry and “warm”, in that sense, in her recent town games. And that’s more like what she’s been putting out this game, I think. She’s also been somewhat tunnel visioned there. I’ve probably held her to an unreasonable standard tbh. Really the post I doubt Alison makes as scum is the one to Axe, telling him he’s an egotistical player. I still have problems with Alison’s play, but I don’t really think it’s my problem anymore.

If Alison is town, I’m left with an immediate pool of Ender, Nanook, Mac and TPS. I’d say Lu Ren and Fingers in my side vision, but I don’t really feel it. This is more on the top of head takes.
huh
Yeah, maybe scratch that. I was literally just thinking that Alison is being really anti-town. And if Alison is being anti-town, she's probably just scum.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:17 am
by TonyStarkPrime
I need nanook to serious up and tell me if naa is actually town or if he's just memeing

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:18 am
by Dyslexicon
@Lu Ren Is there a reason you haven't said what name I would know you by?

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:18 am
by TonyStarkPrime
My read here is that mac is like significantly rand town and if this is gonna be forced I'll vote ender but I don't think we should force it

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:18 am
by TonyStarkPrime
i will take lu ren identity reveal if we're gonna get that, i personally think that slot is probably rand wolf but others say towncore so idk

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:19 am
by TonyStarkPrime
splints is almost always just a wolf i think

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:19 am
by TonyStarkPrime
which probably means alison town

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:20 am
by Alison
Why is the post about axe being egoistical out of my wolf range

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:20 am
by TonyStarkPrime
I do agree that Mac's eod yesterday was maybe kinda bad but like only definitely bad if you're ender and also town so i can't really say

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:20 am
by Dyslexicon
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:18 am i will take lu ren identity reveal if we're gonna get that, i personally think that slot is probably rand wolf but others say towncore so idk
I'm not saying towncore. Them justifying their take on me via an early blank Esooa vote is probably one of the weirdest things I've seen this game.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:21 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Alison wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:20 am Why is the post about axe being egoistical out of my wolf range
if it makes you feel better i thought it was pretty wolfy

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:23 am
by Dyslexicon
Alison wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:20 am Why is the post about axe being egoistical out of my wolf range
Maybe it isn't. I found it pretty rude and with a flare of "angry from a town pov".

Would actually make a lot of sense if you're teamed, but you're probably not for other reasons.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:24 am
by MacDougall
Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:05 am In a thunderdome between Ender and Mac I'd vote both lol
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Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:24 am
by Alison
I didn't feel it was either rude or angry but even if it was I have a hard time believing you think being those things is something I wouldn't do as wolf

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:25 am
by MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:07 am I think like the accurate read is that TSP either max posts or min posts and as a wolf tsp never min posts but I just declared my intention to max post and therefore I'm not sure that the bayes applies anymore
aight well I'm done listening to tsp now

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:26 am
by MacDougall
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:11 am
Alison wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:03 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:54 am
Alison wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:52 am
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:39 am Hey Alison, what is your take on the Mac/Ender Thunderdome?
I'm questioning why the thunderdome is between you two in the first place, but insofar as everyone else seems to have silently agreed this is what we're doing I'd rather vote you over Mac.

I'd prefer to vote Dizzy over any other slot though.
I want to know your reasons behind me > Mac.
I find it difficult to verbalize my feelings here but it's probably a combination of "other players I townread seem to suspect you" + "you're in a better position to be deepwolfing" + "Mac has Alisonsided harder".

Why's Mac the tdome you wanna push over all else?
I figured the Alisonsided was part of it.

Mac's play EOD yesterday was bad and his later play reminds me a lot of African Bird where I caught him as wolf.

Without the Kami w/w theatre.
You have zero benchmark of my town play, self admittedly have said I have wide wolf range. You have no justification to be scumreading me off meta and doing so is just opening you up for tunnels. You are a smarter player than to make reads this bad.

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:26 am
by MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:13 am Alison
4
22%
Voters: EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, BoKnows, Seanzie

Belzy / BoKnows
4
22%
Voters: NotAnAxehole, MacDougall, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Lu Ren

Dyslexicon
1
6%
Voters: Alison

fingersplints
1
6%
Voters: Luckbox Inc

TonyStarkPrime
2
11%
Voters: falcon45ca, fingersplints

ok so pot kettle but like wow is this a crazy vote count
1 alison voter, 1 bo voter, 1 off wagon

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:28 am
by MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:19 am splints is almost always just a wolf i think
your catch up did highlight some questionable things that is true

Re: basic mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:28 am
by TonyStarkPrime
yep