The Syndicate

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:21 am i’d say it ~never comes from a villa in the other thread

could come from a wolf role in either thread

or a villa from ours


likelihood from least likely to most likely

in what world does a town in our thread put secret invisible votes on those three people in the middle of the day and not claim it...

ok just in case though, to be absolutely clear

that's a bad guy thing to do
messing with vcs invisibly is very very antitown
causing confusion about who is going to be voted out is very very antitown, even if you are town doing it on confident scumreads
if someone did do this as town - don't
if someone has the ability to do this to the presumable other thread - don't

ran saying good words

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:22 am

I did have a weird thought that one of the people who claimed the extra vote might have been lying. Not sure how probable that is. But I mean if it's a wolf mechanic and a wolf claims it, it might falsely assure people that plurality would be on the wrong target if there are tied wagons in the votecount. And also throw people off of thinking it comes from wolves. Of course, since we can't see the extra votes, we can't know for sure if they're really there, but there's always a chance that someone who knows where they came from claimed to have one on them.

this is one amoing many reasons why i say this

it’s not secret invisible votes if you’re aware of it

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:23 am Also I don't think pyxxy is ever partnered with Robyn because of his reaction when Robyn claimed to have an extra vote on them

noted

>design wolf role to put votes on people, but they’re aware they have +1 votes
>they can claim they’re being shadow voted to be villagery
>they do that, and appear villagery as a result

role: works as intended

so wwa and ran, who are you planning on voting, then? since you’re both voting robyn and claim this is the doing of a wolf role

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:25 am if i die, the only confident reads i have are

v
mac
tsp
leetic
wwa

glgl. the tsp one ~could be wrong but gotta stick to something. the others im fairly confident on

if i care, i might make 1-2 more villa reads

Whats your Robyn read? You said earlier that you thought they were towny enough, has that changed?

wait no the votes are on abi rondo robyn. not bereft.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:23 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:22 am u mad sus Ted brah

does the sun rise in the morning?

say something new brah

nah dog

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:35 am so wwa and ran, who are you planning on voting, then? since you’re both voting robyn and claim this is the doing of a wolf role

I literally gave my explanation
But no, I didn't mean I think it's from a wolf role. I just think that IF it is from a wolf role, it doesn't mean that all people claiming secret votes are town.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:34 am >design wolf role to put votes on people, but they’re aware they have +1 votes
>they can claim they’re being shadow voted to be villagery
>they do that, and appear villagery as a result

role: works as intended

Isn't that what I said? What's the problem with that theory?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:35 am so wwa and ran, who are you planning on voting, then? since you’re both voting robyn and claim this is the doing of a wolf role

we have no guarantees of anything except it not being an intentional town play. as previously discussed wolves can easily lie and say they got one of the invis votes on them whether or not they actually did.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:36 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:25 am if i die, the only confident reads i have are

v
mac
tsp
leetic
wwa

glgl. the tsp one ~could be wrong but gotta stick to something. the others im fairly confident on

if i care, i might make 1-2 more villa reads

Whats your Robyn read? You said earlier that you thought they were towny enough, has that changed?

i haven’t said that, i’ve just said i found they are incredibly easy to vote when they’re villager and didn’t understand where the votes were coming from

don’t really have a read other than that, but i liked what ran had to say about them. it made sense and experienced that firsthand when i wolfed with them in the mash

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:40 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:35 am so wwa and ran, who are you planning on voting, then? since you’re both voting robyn and claim this is the doing of a wolf role

we have no guarantees of anything except it not being an intentional town play. as previously discussed wolves can easily lie and say they got one of the invis votes on them whether or not they actually did.

that’s not a guarantee tho, lol

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:11 am This is home.
Unbeknownst to us there is work.

Now, we ask the question:
If we die at work, do we die here?

Ofc. ~ signed, Bereft

Apparently not right away.

(dug up this post just to check the wording)

Back to the Porscha situation. She died at work but received a limited number of posts to make here before she dies here, too. So I'm assuming we might have other people trickling through our thread as deaths happen at work. People who die in this thread probably just die, though.

Makes me wonder a bit whether the other thread is getting flip information or not, or if we'll get flip info on Porscha (I'm basically considering her an NPC regardless of whether she claims town or not, so it doesnt matter much but if we see a bunch of wolf flips from the work thread, it might alter our assumed numbers of scum here)

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:41 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:36 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:25 am if i die, the only confident reads i have are

v
mac
tsp
leetic
wwa

glgl. the tsp one ~could be wrong but gotta stick to something. the others im fairly confident on

if i care, i might make 1-2 more villa reads

Whats your Robyn read? You said earlier that you thought they were towny enough, has that changed?

i haven’t said that, i’ve just said i found they are incredibly easy to vote when they’re villager and didn’t understand where the votes were coming from

don’t really have a read other than that, but i liked what ran had to say about them. it made sense and experienced that firsthand when i wolfed with them in the mash

Ah ok ok

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:38 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:34 am >design wolf role to put votes on people, but they’re aware they have +1 votes
>they can claim they’re being shadow voted to be villagery
>they do that, and appear villagery as a result

role: works as intended

Isn't that what I said? What's the problem with that theory?

then we reached the opposite conclusion, if that’s what you said

i was being sarcastic, when im trying to prove a point i find sarcasm does a fine job, but maybe im not sarcastic enough lol

don’t you see the irony that a wolf role would be designed to place votes on people, but by telling the people that were targeted with a secret vote, they are village read for it?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:42 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:40 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:35 am so wwa and ran, who are you planning on voting, then? since you’re both voting robyn and claim this is the doing of a wolf role

we have no guarantees of anything except it not being an intentional town play. as previously discussed wolves can easily lie and say they got one of the invis votes on them whether or not they actually did.

that’s not a guarantee tho, lol

Well, I view it as a near-guarantee, at least in this thread. If it comes from the other thread then who the heck knows.

robyn abi rondo is a pretty random selection of people too. i don't believe anyone talked about a poe similar that at any point in time (until ted just now) and it doesnt seem like a very "wolf targeted" group either. i think it is wise to not read anything into it.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:44 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:38 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:34 am >design wolf role to put votes on people, but they’re aware they have +1 votes
>they can claim they’re being shadow voted to be villagery
>they do that, and appear villagery as a result

role: works as intended

Isn't that what I said? What's the problem with that theory?

then we reached the opposite conclusion, if that’s what you said

i was being sarcastic, when im trying to prove a point i find sarcasm does a fine job, but maybe im not sarcastic enough lol

don’t you see the irony that a wolf role would be designed to place votes on people, but by telling the people that were targeted with a secret vote, they are village read for it?

I got that it was sarcasm but I didn't get why. If any wolf can just up and claim they've been secretly voted with no way to prove it since there's no hammer, it doesn't make anyone village read, it's just NAI for the vote targets since they could either be telling the truth or faking it.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:46 am robyn abi rondo is a pretty random selection of people too. i don't believe anyone talked about a poe similar that at any point in time (until ted just now) and it doesnt seem like a very "wolf targeted" group either. i think it is wise to not read anything into it.

It could be Bereft but that's not really my first guess

Actually
Ted is right, it could be intentionally from town
If it's meant to get a reaction and see who claims the votes

... what would that accomplish

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:53 am ... what would that accomplish

Idk maybe they would expect it to accomplish something

Like if they placed the votes on people they hadn't read yet, as a test to see whether they claimed the extra votes or not, if they assumed wolves wouldn't claim it because they wouldn't want to get hammered... ie if they weren't aware there's no hammer (like how I momentarily forgot, cause I saw someone else mention it in the context of worrying that Abbi would hammer Robyn, forgot who it was)

nah, i’ve decided if it’s by a villa they should claim it

unless they’re somehow forbidden from doing so, but i don’t see a reason why they’d be

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:57 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:53 am ... what would that accomplish

Idk maybe they would expect it to accomplish something

Like if they placed the votes on people they hadn't read yet, as a test to see whether they claimed the extra votes or not, if they assumed wolves wouldn't claim it because they wouldn't want to get hammered... ie if they weren't aware there's no hammer (like how I momentarily forgot, cause I saw someone else mention it in the context of worrying that Abbi would hammer Robyn, forgot who it was)

I know this is an oddly specific and improbable case but I'm just saying, lol

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:57 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:53 am ... what would that accomplish

Idk maybe they would expect it to accomplish something

Like if they placed the votes on people they hadn't read yet, as a test to see whether they claimed the extra votes or not, if they assumed wolves wouldn't claim it because they wouldn't want to get hammered... ie if they weren't aware there's no hammer (like how I momentarily forgot, cause I saw someone else mention it in the context of worrying that Abbi would hammer Robyn, forgot who it was)

that's.. one of the most ill thought out mafia tactics i have heard in a while (affectionate)

however

its also a pretty well knotted town perspective to come up with that

if anyone still needed reasons wind is town

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:08 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:57 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:53 am ... what would that accomplish

Idk maybe they would expect it to accomplish something

Like if they placed the votes on people they hadn't read yet, as a test to see whether they claimed the extra votes or not, if they assumed wolves wouldn't claim it because they wouldn't want to get hammered... ie if they weren't aware there's no hammer (like how I momentarily forgot, cause I saw someone else mention it in the context of worrying that Abbi would hammer Robyn, forgot who it was)

that's.. one of the most ill thought out mafia tactics i have heard in a while (affectionate)

however

its also a pretty well knotted town perspective to come up with that

if anyone still needed reasons wind is town

Ngl I feel like I would pull something stupid like that
Maybe not quite in that way, and not on those three targets, but still

eepy as the kids say. see y'all tomorrow.

@Porscha Hello fair maiden. If thou be town truly, I would ask of thee a great boon: look upon the Princess Abigail's iso, well and truly, and deliver thine holy judgment as to whether she be a werewolf. Thank you for your time <3

Good news! someone broke a server which means my date is cancelled and I am home again to fix it! You have until I have fixed the server to real time with me

Bad news is my date is magnanimous enough to still wait for me to fix it so after that I am gone

why you voting robyn?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:12 am why you voting robyn?

Im voting you?

oh you aren’t anymore, but at one point you did vote them and then said leetic could be pushing you to save robyn

how come you’re parked on me if that’s your worldview, in that case?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:13 am oh you aren’t anymore, but at one point you did vote them and then said leetic could be pushing you to save robyn

how come you’re parked on me if that’s your worldview, in that case?

oh that was my crazy thoughts before I went and tried to decypher berefts insanity. I was just putting them into thread because I had them before and figured Id post them.

also something I do farely frequently (I wont say every game) is just vote everyone and never leave rvs which is why I was cracking up at the votes on me and leetics response.

so what are your thoughts on robyn? and what do you think of mac saying you could be a wolf, if anything?

Mac will always say I could be wolf because I have snowed him hard like.. 2? 3? times. I also enjoy looking scummy and getting into shit fights because it feeds me. I have no clue what is going on between Robyn and Mac. I havent really had time to go into it which is why I asked WWA for an analysis. From what I can tell that Bereft has said is they shouldnt be fighting so I will back that since Bereft has given me a way to feel like I have a foothold in this game

and one last question before i dip, you feel like you’ve been trying to look scummy this game?

if you haven’t, then why not?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:26 am and one last question before i dip, you feel like you’ve been trying to look scummy this game?

if you haven’t, then why not?

Im confused, did you not read my above message? That just feels weird?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:26 am and one last question before i dip, you feel like you’ve been trying to look scummy this game?

if you haven’t, then why not?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:23 am Mac will always say I could be wolf because I have snowed him hard like.. 2? 3? times. I also enjoy looking scummy and getting into shit fights because it feeds me. I have no clue what is going on between Robyn and Mac. I havent really had time to go into it which is why I asked WWA for an analysis. From what I can tell that Bereft has said is they shouldnt be fighting so I will back that since Bereft has given me a way to feel like I have a foothold in this game

???

Yeah... happy with my vote if they are just asking questions to ask questions and not actually reading my responses

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:13 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:24 am Also I got the vibe I should expect them to be top poster / low impact archetype and they’re not top posting which is throwing me somewhat

Someone ought to point out the reverse applies to Abigail but I don’t think of Abigail/Neon as top poster low impact

I've mostly cut out the topposting thing since I don't play as often on FoL anymore tbh. Topposting on a forum that doesnt use discourse just ends up clogging the thread. I still post a lot, for sure, but I don't have quite as much to keep up with and respond to at all times in this format, so i don't have to post every single thought that pops into my head (except when I want to generate discussion on it).

Noted and considered

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:47 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:44 am Is it time to tell you why I was entertaining Robyn and voting Bereft? Or should I save it for later?

HURRY UP PLEASE IT'S TIME

Awesome

Ok server fixed. Good night

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:23 am Mac will always say I could be wolf because I have snowed him hard like.. 2? 3? times. I also enjoy looking scummy and getting into shit fights because it feeds me. I have no clue what is going on between Robyn and Mac. I havent really had time to go into it which is why I asked WWA for an analysis. From what I can tell that Bereft has said is they shouldnt be fighting so I will back that since Bereft has given me a way to feel like I have a foothold in this game

Well I gave my analysis in the form of a wallpost about Robyn, maybe that answers your question
I think you interpreted that part of Bereft's reads right but idk what that means for Mac and Robyn so I've just kinda out that on hold.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:21 am

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:09 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:08 am I assume Porscha was in the other thread but upon realising I wasn't there simply switched here cuz they have spooky powers or something.

They claim to be "dead", whatever that means. Some sort of variant on the Tree Stump role? Also, Porscha, how did you "die"?

I wonder if they get severed in the other thread when they die, and then they end up in this thread with limited posts for one phase

all evenings

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:13 am

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:11 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:10 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:08 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:56 am

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:52 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:51 am

You would be surprised to find that is incorrect

Then what the hell are you? And are other people gonna show up?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:52 am @Porscha how long are you going to be in this thread, if you may tell us

ded town and I dont know

I have 4 posts remaining for the night after this

@Porscha how many people were wagons at EOD, if you maybe tell us? was it 3? and who, again if you may tell us?

nicely, second to last post now, I already said I missed most of day, no clue of anything

Were you nightkilled, lynched, or something else?

And my other question is whether you believe this ability is unique to you.

unsure; unlikely unique; supposedly I was vanilla town no powers

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:55 am eepy as the kids say. see y'all tomorrow.

@Porscha Hello fair maiden. If thou be town truly, I would ask of thee a great boon: look upon the Princess Abigail's iso, well and truly, and deliver thine holy judgment as to whether she be a werewolf. Thank you for your time <3

quick glance 1-2 pages town

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:29 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:26 am and one last question before i dip, you feel like you’ve been trying to look scummy this game?

if you haven’t, then why not?

Im confused, did you not read my above message? That just feels weird?

yes, because in your message you are saying that you’ve been acting scummy this game

and not that you like to be scummy in general

sigh