The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:59 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:59 pm Okay I can only wish you all gl

*fistbump*

Posted: **Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:33 pm**

Nanook was town. Proper flip as soon as I can. Thanks for patience.

Posted: **Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:58 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (DarlingMonroe) was eliminated. He was:

Spoiler: show

Night 2 will last 23 hours from this point until 9:00 PM EST. Please get your actions to me as soon as you're able. Flavor soon to come.

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:19 am**

Day 2 Poll

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:30 pm**

The graveyard overlooking Goodsprings has gained a healthy new supply of bodies. What had been a quiet and unassuming village off the old Nevada highway 161 is now a ghost town. The tumbleweed rolls over the schoolyard, and the dilapidated Prospector Saloon crumbles board-by-board. There is little strategic value to this place, so it seems Caesar's Legion and its puppet gangs are more interested in setting examples than in establishing meaningful power structures in the region -- at least for now.

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:00 pm**

Night 2 has ended.

Seanzie has been killed. He was:

Spoiler: show

Without support from the south, the Sorrows tribe of the Zion region possessed neither the manpower nor the will to hold off their aggressive tribal neighbors forever. Their burgeoning culture and livelihood was halted and utterly erased. Perhaps they linger in spirit, whispering to traders and passers-by in the winds of their narrow caverns and canals that this land is not for them... or for anyone.

Day 3 is underway and will last 48 hours.

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:05 pm**

Seanzie just flipped one of the few believable town roles for falcon targeting Seanzie. At this point there are mafia roles and third party roles that I believe should target like that. I think we shoul eliminate falcon and that they should be claiming today.

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:06 pm**

RIP guys. I didn't really mean it when I said

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:53 pm Enh. Maybe not. Doesn't make sense to claim it when he did then.

I just realized that if I had been right about Manny being Caesar's Legion, I would have put a huge nightkill target on my head. Then Seanzie came in saying he thought itwas true, and then HE ate the nightkill. So I feel good on a personal level that I didn't have to be the one, but RIP Seanzie; I can't say I didn't see it coming a little.

Or someone wants to frame Manny for the same reasoning, but

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:07 pm**

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:05 pm Seanzie just flipped one of the few believable town roles for falcon targeting Seanzie. At this point there are mafia roles and third party roles that I believe should target like that. I think we shoul eliminate falcon and that they should be claiming today.

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

I'm not in the mental zone to immediately understand "Seanzie just flipped one of the few believable town roles for falcon targeting Seanzie", can you calrify that please?

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:07 pm**

*clarify

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:09 pm**

Also town has 4 flipped dead power roles so far. And Manny is claiming to be a 5th. Is becomes increasingly more likely that any additional power we spot acting is not town but instead anti-town.

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:12 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:07 pm
Dunnstral wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:05 pm Seanzie just flipped one of the few believable town roles for falcon targeting Seanzie. At this point there are mafia roles and third party roles that I believe should target like that. I think we shoul eliminate falcon and that they should be claiming today.

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine
I'm not in the mental zone to immediately understand "Seanzie just flipped one of the few believable town roles for falcon targeting Seanzie", can you calrify that please?

Sure. Town's power roles are listed and there are only a few that target that falcon could be. I find stuff like the bodyguard would be questionable to use on Seanzie night 1 when they were the counter to the wagon.

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:17 pm**

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:09 pm Also town has 4 flipped dead power roles so far. And Manny is claiming to be a 5th. Is becomes increasingly more likely that any additional power we spot acting is not town but instead anti-town.

That's a good point.

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:12 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:07 pm
Dunnstral wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:05 pm Seanzie just flipped one of the few believable town roles for falcon targeting Seanzie. At this point there are mafia roles and third party roles that I believe should target like that. I think we shoul eliminate falcon and that they should be claiming today.

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine
I'm not in the mental zone to immediately understand "Seanzie just flipped one of the few believable town roles for falcon targeting Seanzie", can you calrify that please?
Sure. Town's power roles are listed and there are only a few that target that falcon could be. I find stuff like the bodyguard would be questionable to use on Seanzie night 1 when they were the counter to the wagon.

But it was Manny that called out falcon, right? Are they both bad, and it was a bussing kind of ploy?

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:26 pm**

My assumption right now is that Manny is town

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:28 pm**

Hi all; sorry I disappeared yesterday. I actually haven’t read any of end of day, and don’t even know what happened with manny claiming. Did anyone else claim?

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:33 pm**

Manny wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:56 pm
Manny wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:52 pm I wonder what are the odds i get wagoned at eod considering i prolly wont be up for it.
Hardclaim Town Enclave Remnants [aka Town PR].

Im prolly consensus scumread enough that makes forcing wolves to self-resolve my ass at night worth it + i think its somewhat likely i might actually die today without claiming cuz Mac is still stuck on me!wolf apparently :joy_cat:

Manny wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:01 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:00 pm What'd you do last night?
Falcon visited you which is why i've been townreading him lol, dont see any point for wolves to act on u.

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:35 pm**

ok time to stop a juggernaut

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:35 pm**

Probably also time to do some PR solving

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:35 pm**

I’m not working tomorrow so maybe I’ll decide it’s time to play mafia

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:37 pm**

Assuming worst case then we are potentially heavily reliant on a mafia kill here

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:38 pm**

Manny's townclaim gives him two Watches. If the falcon one was the first, then there should be one from last night. @Manny

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:38 pm**

Only one death likely either eliminates the SK as an option or means the mafia has the problem under control, arso maybe the biggest remaining threat but we can’t expend energy worrying about such things right now

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:38 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:37 pm Assuming worst case then we are potentially heavily reliant on a mafia kill here

You mean numbers-wise?

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:39 pm**

One kill. Hmm. That points to a not SK or poisoner, as there aren’t a lot of protects in this game. Mr house is probably an arsonist. That’s an annoying role who can hide anywhere so I guess it’s gonna be hard pressed to 3p hunt this game.

Ok, I see manny claims to have watched falcon visit Seanzie. The weirdest part to me is how only falcon seemed to have visited Seanzie, the counter wagon. Literally blows my mind. But I believe Manny’s claim, and falcon could literally be any of the roles. He could be the mafia poisoner, which would explain Seanzie’s death. Except mafia also get a factional kill so that doesn’t seem likely.

I feel like this is a set up to get Lime Coke yeeted. I don’t feel like falling on those obvious spikes

[VOTE: dunnstral] aubergine let’s start here again.

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:42 pm**

Nah, I think Long Con’s a wolf.
His iso since his tunnel on me is filled with a bunch of nodding and ‘oh yeah’s’ that amount to nothing.

Like, he’s here, and cordial, and isn’t rocking the boat. Beyond that, he seems reticent to make any strong pushes on anyone.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:44 pm**

Why is Mac still alive? That’s fishy. Where did we get with Mac post capping yesterday? And why is that supposed to be towny?

As you can see, I’m growing more paranoid of the big talkers as we fail to get any traction. Gotta start looking at the paper trails

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:44 pm**

(Coming from the guy that comes out today making accusations and leading the thread)

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:46 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:39 pm One kill. Hmm. That points to a not SK or poisoner, as there aren’t a lot of protects in this game. Mr house is probably an arsonist. That’s an annoying role who can hide anywhere so I guess it’s gonna be hard pressed to 3p hunt this game. :suspish:

Ok, I see manny claims to have watched falcon visit Seanzie. The weirdest part to me is how only falcon seemed to have visited Seanzie, the counter wagon. Literally blows my mind. But I believe Manny’s claim, and falcon could literally be any of the roles. He could be the mafia poisoner, which would explain Seanzie’s death. Except mafia also get a factional kill so that doesn’t seem likely.

I feel like this is a set up to get Lime Coke yeeted. I don’t feel like falling on those obvious spikes

[VOTE: dunnstral] aubergine let’s start here again.

Third sentence about Lime Coke makes no sense. And voting me after makes no sense either.

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:46 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:42 pm Nah, I think Long Con’s a wolf.
His iso since his tunnel on me is filled with a bunch of nodding and ‘oh yeah’s’ that amount to nothing.

Like, he’s here, and cordial, and isn’t rocking the boat. Beyond that, he seems reticent to make any strong pushes on anyone.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Ok, I literally just accused Manny of being Caesar's Legion, but ok.

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:47 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:44 pm (Coming from the guy that comes out today making accusations and leading the thread)

Oh, are you leading the thread?

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:47 pm**

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:50 pm**

I don't want to vote Scotty because they accused 3 people at the same time, and I associate that as coming from town. I think that is less likely to come from mafia or third party. With that said I'm not sure how they got from a to b to c to d here, their post makes no sense as I've pointed out because we were talking about falcon and manny's result and they said it was meant to get Lime Coke yeeted.

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:00 pm**

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:50 pm I don't want to vote Scotty because they accused 3 people at the same time, and I associate that as coming from town. I think that is less likely to come from mafia or third party. With that said I'm not sure how they got from a to b to c to d here, their post makes no sense as I've pointed out because we were talking about falcon and manny's result and they said it was meant to get Lime Coke yeeted.

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:03 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:47 pm [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Did the city council finally deny your billboard advertisements?

This is a weird vote

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:05 pm**

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:46 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:39 pm One kill. Hmm. That points to a not SK or poisoner, as there aren’t a lot of protects in this game. Mr house is probably an arsonist. That’s an annoying role who can hide anywhere so I guess it’s gonna be hard pressed to 3p hunt this game.

Ok, I see manny claims to have watched falcon visit Seanzie. The weirdest part to me is how only falcon seemed to have visited Seanzie, the counter wagon. Literally blows my mind. But I believe Manny’s claim, and falcon could literally be any of the roles. He could be the mafia poisoner, which would explain Seanzie’s death. Except mafia also get a factional kill so that doesn’t seem likely.

I feel like this is a set up to get Lime Coke yeeted. I don’t feel like falling on those obvious spikes

[VOTE: dunnstral] aubergine let’s start here again.
Third sentence about Lime Coke makes no sense. And voting me after makes no sense either.

Lime and Seanzie had a spat, Lime Coke still had him as a suspect, and Seanzie had Lime as a top suspect for almost the whole game. How does that not make sense?

Voting you is exclusive of the rest of my post, I’ll give you that

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:08 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:46 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:42 pm Nah, I think Long Con’s a wolf.
His iso since his tunnel on me is filled with a bunch of nodding and ‘oh yeah’s’ that amount to nothing.

Like, he’s here, and cordial, and isn’t rocking the boat. Beyond that, he seems reticent to make any strong pushes on anyone.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
Ok, I literally just accused Manny of being Caesar's Legion, but ok.

And I still separate my plastic for recycling

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:10 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:47 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:44 pm (Coming from the guy that comes out today making accusations and leading the thread)
Oh, are you leading the thread?

I’m sure throwing a lot of shit at the wall in a short period of time, aren’t I?

I know, I know, leadings a tough job, but someone has to do it

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:12 pm**

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:50 pm I don't want to vote Scotty because they accused 3 people at the same time, and I associate that as coming from town. I think that is less likely to come from mafia or third party. With that said I'm not sure how they got from a to b to c to d here, their post makes no sense as I've pointed out because we were talking about falcon and manny's result and they said it was meant to get Lime Coke yeeted.

I guess keep in mind I still haven’t read end of day, but at a base level, seeing falcon visit Seanzie doesn’t really mean anything. That a mech conclusion based on factors that are impossible to deduce atm.
I’m making a level 0 NK analysis

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:13 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:00 pm
Dunnstral wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:50 pm I don't want to vote Scotty because they accused 3 people at the same time, and I associate that as coming from town. I think that is less likely to come from mafia or third party. With that said I'm not sure how they got from a to b to c to d here, their post makes no sense as I've pointed out because we were talking about falcon and manny's result and they said it was meant to get Lime Coke yeeted.

There is it.

Had to resort to defacing his own ads.

Exceeded your budget, bud?

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:14 pm**

I’m the towniest person that has posted today.

Change my mind

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:16 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:10 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:47 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:44 pm (Coming from the guy that comes out today making accusations and leading the thread)
Oh, are you leading the thread?
I’m sure throwing a lot of shit at the wall in a short period of time, aren’t I?

I know, I know, leadings a tough job, but someone has to do it

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:16 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:39 pm One kill. Hmm. That points to a not SK or poisoner, as there aren’t a lot of protects in this game. Mr house is probably an arsonist. That’s an annoying role who can hide anywhere so I guess it’s gonna be hard pressed to 3p hunt this game.

Ok I realize the SK ‘MAY’ shoot, so that actually complicates things. I can see a world where they want to holster early. Which is also annoying. So meh

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:16 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:10 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:47 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:44 pm (Coming from the guy that comes out today making accusations and leading the thread)
Oh, are you leading the thread?
I’m sure throwing a lot of shit at the wall in a short period of time, aren’t I?

I know, I know, leadings a tough job, but someone has to do it

I think you need to have followers before you can declare yourself the leader. Let's give it some time and see.

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:17 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:16 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:10 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:47 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:44 pm (Coming from the guy that comes out today making accusations and leading the thread)
Oh, are you leading the thread?
I’m sure throwing a lot of shit at the wall in a short period of time, aren’t I?

I know, I know, leadings a tough job, but someone has to do it

If you think I’m teammates with Long Con, you haven’t been paying attention.

Really? This is the direction you’re going today?

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:18 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:16 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:39 pm One kill. Hmm. That points to a not SK or poisoner, as there aren’t a lot of protects in this game. Mr house is probably an arsonist. That’s an annoying role who can hide anywhere so I guess it’s gonna be hard pressed to 3p hunt this game.
Ok I realize the SK ‘MAY’ shoot, so that actually complicates things. I can see a world where they want to holster early. Which is also annoying. So meh

I don't think that's very likely, I think your initial analysis is more probable.

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:18 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:12 pm
Dunnstral wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:50 pm I don't want to vote Scotty because they accused 3 people at the same time, and I associate that as coming from town. I think that is less likely to come from mafia or third party. With that said I'm not sure how they got from a to b to c to d here, their post makes no sense as I've pointed out because we were talking about falcon and manny's result and they said it was meant to get Lime Coke yeeted.
I guess keep in mind I still haven’t read end of day, but at a base level, seeing falcon visit Seanzie doesn’t really mean anything. That a mech conclusion based on factors that are impossible to deduce atm.
I’m making a level 0 NK analysis

You said it yourself, falcon could be any of the remaining roles that target. Well, most of those are aligned with anti-town faction, and given the amount of dead town power roles, by the numbers the anti-town factiosn probably have more power roles remaining than town. You know who else could be any role? The other people you are voting for, except they are even less likely to be anti-town than falcon because they can be citizens too.

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:19 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:17 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:16 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:10 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:47 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:44 pm (Coming from the guy that comes out today making accusations and leading the thread)
Oh, are you leading the thread?
I’m sure throwing a lot of shit at the wall in a short period of time, aren’t I?

I know, I know, leadings a tough job, but someone has to do it

If you think I’m teammates with Long Con, you haven’t been paying attention.

Really? This is the direction you’re going today?

Is that what that meant? Hard bussing from the get-go for us this time, I guess.

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:19 pm**

We really need to just hear from falcon

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:21 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:16 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:10 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:47 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:44 pm (Coming from the guy that comes out today making accusations and leading the thread)
Oh, are you leading the thread?
I’m sure throwing a lot of shit at the wall in a short period of time, aren’t I?

I know, I know, leadings a tough job, but someone has to do it
I think you need to have followers before you can declare yourself the leader. Let's give it some time and see.

If I build it, they will come

-me, leaving chocolate in my bedroom and coming back from work to discover ants

Posted: **Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:25 pm**

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:18 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:12 pm
Dunnstral wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:50 pm I don't want to vote Scotty because they accused 3 people at the same time, and I associate that as coming from town. I think that is less likely to come from mafia or third party. With that said I'm not sure how they got from a to b to c to d here, their post makes no sense as I've pointed out because we were talking about falcon and manny's result and they said it was meant to get Lime Coke yeeted.
I guess keep in mind I still haven’t read end of day, but at a base level, seeing falcon visit Seanzie doesn’t really mean anything. That a mech conclusion based on factors that are impossible to deduce atm.
I’m making a level 0 NK analysis
You said it yourself, falcon could be any of the remaining roles that target. Well, most of those are aligned with anti-town faction, and given the amount of dead town power roles, by the numbers the anti-town factiosn probably have more power roles remaining than town. You know who else could be any role? The other people you are voting for, except they are even less likely to be anti-town than falcon because they can be citizens too.

lol

ok, I hear you, but that last sentence literally made me lol:
“Falcon is more likely to be bad than us because everyone else is more likely to be town because they can be town”

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