The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:41 pm**

Where would you feel comfortable voting then, Hedge, who are you thinking currently?

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:51 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:My slow reading of MR isnt making me feel better about him. He was really active early in the game and seems to have tapered off. Why is that?

However, as noted this will do nothing to save MP. Seems like Epi, MP (obvi), maybe K4j, and I are interested in not lynching MP currently. Is this correct?

I dont have a read on Sorsha that much, dont really want to vote Lizzy or Bass though.

I think Epi wpuld like to help save MP and then Go the F to Sleep.
Why not Lizzy or Bass?

And oh, is that what VROOM VROOM zzzzzzzzz meant?

Could be he really likes Mazdas too.

I have decided how I feel about Boom vs. Lizzy, but so far in my short time in this game Lizzy has not drawn my attention. I have almost no opinion on Bass, so that leaves Sorsha. I have been feeling good about Bullz (apparently we all have), so I am more inclined to follow his lead there.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:52 pm**

Well, I don't feel comfortable voting for MP or SVS because I don't feel I have a good handle on it so far this game. And in the interest of not spreading the vote out even more, I'm not going to go with MR. Instead I'll go with Lizzy. She's one of the few players I could see being brazen enough to hint at being the SK and subtly mention it at some point in the thread.

Votes Lizzy

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:54 pm**

Hedgeowl wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:My slow reading of MR isnt making me feel better about him. He was really active early in the game and seems to have tapered off. Why is that?

However, as noted this will do nothing to save MP. Seems like Epi, MP (obvi), maybe K4j, and I are interested in not lynching MP currently. Is this correct?

I dont have a read on Sorsha that much, dont really want to vote Lizzy or Bass though.

I think Epi wpuld like to help save MP and then Go the F to Sleep.
Why not Lizzy or Bass?

And oh, is that what VROOM VROOM zzzzzzzzz meant?
Could be he really likes Mazdas too.

I have decided how I feel about Boom vs. Lizzy, but so far in my short time in this game Lizzy has not drawn my attention. I have almost no opinion on Bass, so that leaves Sorsha. I have been feeling good about Bullz (apparently we all have), so I am more inclined to follow his lead there.

Seems all well and good.

I just might follow a Sorsha vote. I'm not sure.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:54 pm**

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Well, I don't feel comfortable voting for MP or SVS because I don't feel I have a good handle on it so far this game. And in the interest of not spreading the vote out even more, I'm not going to go with MR. Instead I'll go with Lizzy. She's one of the few players I could see being brazen enough to hint at being the SK and subtly mention it at some point in the thread.

Votes Lizzy

I am pretty suspicious of those who just vote without discussion.
In the interest of not spreading the vote out? MR may have been a player that with you we could have saved MP with...sigh. IDEK if we should be saving him. I just don't know

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:55 pm**

Well, K4J, forget about all the votes.

If you had to vote, right now, looking at the player list -- who would it be for? First person that comes to mind. Literally.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:57 pm**

kneel4justice wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:Well, I don't feel comfortable voting for MP or SVS because I don't feel I have a good handle on it so far this game. And in the interest of not spreading the vote out even more, I'm not going to go with MR. Instead I'll go with Lizzy. She's one of the few players I could see being brazen enough to hint at being the SK and subtly mention it at some point in the thread.

Votes Lizzy
I am pretty suspicious of those who just vote without discussion.
In the interest of not spreading the vote out? MR may have been a player that with you we could have saved MP with...sigh. IDEK if we should be saving him. I just don't know

DOH! Yeah...I wold have voted MR if it was going to accomplish something too. Gah, dont like the way this lynch is going. I may just vote SVS or Sorsha soon.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:58 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote:Well, K4J, forget about all the votes.

If you had to vote, right now, looking at the player list -- who would it be for? First person that comes to mind. Literally.

MR

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:58 pm**

Why? Can you be more specific please? If i am going to take a vote on vapors, i would like to know why.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:58 pm**

That was at Hedge

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:58 pm**

WOG Turnip Head

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:01 am**

Ugh I really don't know who to vote for. My only real option right now, my gut tells me to vote for MP. The only other one I could consider would be Lizzy but again, not sure at all

I would also like to know why all of a sudden people want to save MP from being lynched. This is very scummy behaviour to me.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:01 am**

Hedgeowl wrote:
kneel4justice wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:Well, I don't feel comfortable voting for MP or SVS because I don't feel I have a good handle on it so far this game. And in the interest of not spreading the vote out even more, I'm not going to go with MR. Instead I'll go with Lizzy. She's one of the few players I could see being brazen enough to hint at being the SK and subtly mention it at some point in the thread.

Votes Lizzy
I am pretty suspicious of those who just vote without discussion.
In the interest of not spreading the vote out? MR may have been a player that with you we could have saved MP with...sigh. IDEK if we should be saving him. I just don't know
DOH! Yeah...I wold have voted MR if it was going to accomplish something too. Gah, dont like the way this lynch is going. I may just vote SVS or Sorsha soon.

Well, go with whatever feels best to you. I will make my decision as I need to.

kneel4justice wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Well, K4J, forget about all the votes.

If you had to vote, right now, looking at the player list -- who would it be for? First person that comes to mind. Literally.
MR

Makes sense, thanks.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:02 am**

Loulou26 wrote:Ugh I really don't know who to vote for. My only real option right now, my gut tells me to vote for MP. The only other one I could consider would be Lizzy but again, not sure at all

I would also like to know why all of a sudden people want to save MP from being lynched. This is very scummy behaviour to me.

Why is it you suspect me again?

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:03 am**

[quote="Loulou26"I would also like to know why all of a sudden people want to save MP from being lynched. This is very scummy behaviour to me.[/quote]

Why suddenly did deafened vote for him?

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:05 am**

I have a question for Mp . In lost when people were talking about voting for you why did you vote yourself before anyone else did to prove you were a civ and not try what you are trying now?

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:07 am**

S~V~S wrote:Why? Can you be more specific please? If i am going to take a vote on vapors, i would like to know why.

Well you are the only one still who fits my top posters list with votes besides Bullz.

actually considering your voters are Dom and Devin who I am not feeling uber happy feelings from it makes me question myself even more. Argh!!

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:08 am**

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Loulou26 wrote:Ugh I really don't know who to vote for. My only real option right now, my gut tells me to vote for MP. The only other one I could consider would be Lizzy but again, not sure at all

I would also like to know why all of a sudden people want to save MP from being lynched. This is very scummy behaviour to me.
Why is it you suspect me again?

Mainly because of last night. But something from the whole game has felt off to me about you. Like sometimes it feels like you're treading water, seeing how things lie before jumping in but always leaving yourself an out at the same time

Also, I would like to point out that again I was in the crosshairs and again (this happened in the Ksite game) I was suspected yet not one vote was placed on me. Tells me the baddies were working to try and get me lynched.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:11 am**

I am always a top poster, Hedge, good or bad. Back in the day, baddies were always low posters, but that was when most games had only one baddie crew. It was a lot harder to be bad under those conditions. Being a high poster was a sign of civvieness. For me, though, it is just that i like to talk. srsly lol

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:11 am**

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I have a question for Mp . In lost when people were talking about voting for you why did you vote yourself before anyone else did to prove you were a civ and not try what you are trying now?

Good question, Bass. Fact of the matter is, while my alignment is the same in both of these situations, the nature of the suspicion combined with my performance in the game couldn't be any more different.

In Lost, I made a HUGE mistake that made it seem as though I was either an incredibly terrible civvie or I was a careless baddie caught in a lie.

I did not make such a mistake here. The mechanics are different.

In Lost, there was this tidal wave of suspicion against me that I argued against over and over and over, but it was all based on whether people thought I was lying about something that was an in-game mechanic but completely outside the realm of the regular thread, and instead based on interpretations of my actions due to a conversation in BTSC.

I felt the best way to prove my point that it was clearly down to my word versus someone else's was to vote myself; it was purely a strategic move born almost entirely out of frustration. Not to mention I replaced into that game when it already had 3,000 posts and it had the unconventional mechanics of squares and what not.

This game... I've not replaced; I've been quite active for most of the game. I made no such mistake. People are suspecting me based on my actions rather than based on some ridiculous assertion that I "lied" and made a colossal mistake voting for someone in thread that would have been against my benefit. The Lost suspicion was SO ABSURD it couldn't even have been true for me to be bad, IMO. Kind of like how I saw the Mongoose suspicion in this game, if that makes sense.

Even though the suspicion against me in this game is incorrect and largely unfounded, the circumstances are entirely different.

There was nothing to be gained by a self-vote in this occasion.

I at least felt there was something to be gained in Lost. Which is odd because there is almost NEVER a time and a place for a self-vote, but I still stand by the one I made in that game.

To this date that suspicion is the most ridiculous one I've ever been up against.

Linkitis with people

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:15 am**

Loulou26 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Loulou26 wrote:Ugh I really don't know who to vote for. My only real option right now, my gut tells me to vote for MP. The only other one I could consider would be Lizzy but again, not sure at all

I would also like to know why all of a sudden people want to save MP from being lynched. This is very scummy behaviour to me.
Why is it you suspect me again?
Mainly because of last night. But something from the whole game has felt off to me about you. Like sometimes it feels like you're treading water, seeing how things lie before jumping in but always leaving yourself an out at the same time

Also, I would like to point out that again I was in the crosshairs and again (this happened in the Ksite game) I was suspected yet not one vote was placed on me. Tells me the baddies were working to try and get me lynched.

Well, thanks for clarifying nonetheless! You are wrong about me though.

Regarding your second paragraph, that may be a stretch. One, because I'm not bad. Two, because that's just way too WIFOMy to know for sure. I mean, I received no votes prior to today and now look at me.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:17 am**

This is so tense. The game could end for me tonight... or it could still be someone else.

I still do not feel comfortable throwing out my vote yet; there are too many unknowns.

How many likely voters do we even have left? Me, K4J, Hedge, and Lou, is that it?

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:19 am**

S~V~S wrote:I am always a top poster, Hedge, good or bad. Back in the day, baddies were always low posters, but that was when most games had only one baddie crew. It was a lot harder to be bad under those conditions. Being a high poster was a sign of civvieness. For me, though, it is just that i like to talk. srsly lol

Well since MP seems to have considered it "challenge accepted" situation and is now the top poster, I could test my theory for sure, by notmhelping save him. However, I feel the best about him so far and dont want to waste another lynch on a civ.

At this point I may just go the WOG route.

Linki the only ones i can think of yeah.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:20 am**

I will consider voting WOG as an option so that we can possibly learn things in the night phase about MP or at least have more time to discuss the decision. I do think there are aspects of MP that are suspicious but he is a large contributor, and I wouldn't want to lynch him if he is civvie. I feel like it's a dumb choice, but I don't see people willing to vote MR, and I am not sure that I am willing to trust my instincts and go with MR after what happened with Russ, plus I am not sure there are enough to vote with me on MR.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:21 am**

I would be open to a WOG vote.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:24 am**

MovingPictures07 wrote:I would be open to a WOG vote.

No duh.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:24 am**

kneel4justice wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I would be open to a WOG vote.
No duh.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:25 am**

He hasn't even posted once. How would you have any clue he was bad, MP?

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:26 am**

S~V~S wrote:He hasn't even posted once. How would you have any clue he was bad, MP?

First off, WOG is female.

Secondly, I don't have any idea. But I know I am not bad, so I will take any random % shot to save my ass any time.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:26 am**

S~V~S wrote:He hasn't even posted once. How would you have any clue he was bad, MP?

Clearly that's not the point though. Lol
Why are you only asking MP?

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:26 am**

I'm going with Lizzy for my vote cos I think she is a baddie. MP, I'm giving you the BotD right now. But just know that you still are suspicious in my eyes.

With that done I am going to sleep, I feel awful and the painkillers are wearing off

Night guys.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:26 am**

kneel4justice wrote:
S~V~S wrote:He hasn't even posted once. How would you have any clue he was bad, MP?
Clearly that's not the point though. Lol
Why are you only asking MP?

She likes asking me things.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:27 am**

kneel4justice wrote:I will consider voting WOG as an option so that we can possibly learn things in the night phase about MP or at least have more time to discuss the decision. I do think there are aspects of MP that are suspicious but he is a large contributor, and I wouldn't want to lynch him if he is civvie. I feel like it's a dumb choice, but I don't see people willing to vote MR, and I am not sure that I am willing to trust my instincts and go with MR after what happened with Russ, plus I am not sure there are enough to vote with me on MR.

This is how I feel on MR too. He would be getting my vote right now otherwise. However, I would like to keep MP in the game for now. Frankly I wont be surprised if WOG flips civ though.

Linki - i think MP is open to saving himself however needed at this point.

And there it is.

Omg let me post!

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:27 am**

Loulou26 wrote:I'm going with Lizzy for my vote cos I think she is a baddie. MP, I'm giving you the BotD right now. But just know that you still are suspicious in my eyes.

With that done I am going to sleep, I feel awful and the painkillers are wearing off

Night guys.

Wow! Didn't quite see that coming. Well, you will not regret it.

Hope you feel better!

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:28 am**

Loulou26 wrote:I'm going with Lizzy for my vote cos I think she is a baddie. MP, I'm giving you the BotD right now. But just know that you still are suspicious in my eyes.

With that done I am going to sleep, I feel awful and the painkillers are wearing off

Night guys.

Feel better, Lou

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:29 am**

Voted WOG. Maybe we can get it together next day phase?

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:30 am**

Becasue of this:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I would be open to a WOG vote.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:31 am**

S~V~S wrote:Becasue of this:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I would be open to a WOG vote.

Put yourself in my shoes, lol.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:31 am**

Okay, so Lizzy and WOG have 3; I have 4. Decisions, decisions.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:33 am**

kneel4justice wrote:Voted WOG. Maybe we can get it together next day phase?

Really? You think voting someone who is really statistically likely to be a civvie helps the civvies? How? Especially when there are some real serious suspicions on the table. Voting a low poster is a cop out.

See, you think emo reactions mean bad, to me this is SO bad.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:33 am**

I think all you guys are doing the same thing you call people out for all the time. TH gave a reason why he was vote a low poster and I understand why MP is pushing but isn't this what mafia teams do to save a team mate?

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:34 am**

S~V~S wrote:
kneel4justice wrote:Voted WOG. Maybe we can get it together next day phase?
Really? You think voting someone who is really statistically likely to be a civvie helps the civvies? How? Especially when there are some real serious suspicions on the table. Voting a low poster is a cop out.

See, you think emo reactions mean bad, to me this is SO bad.

You're more than welcome to feel that way.
I am not confident in voting MP, anymore, so I voted this way. I don't agree with the suspicion of Lizzy and there does not seem to be enough people willing to vote MR.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:37 am**

kneel4justice wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
kneel4justice wrote:Voted WOG. Maybe we can get it together next day phase?
Really? You think voting someone who is really statistically likely to be a civvie helps the civvies? How? Especially when there are some real serious suspicions on the table. Voting a low poster is a cop out.

See, you think emo reactions mean bad, to me this is SO bad.

You're more than welcome to feel that way.
I am not confident in voting MP, anymore, so I voted this way. I don't agree with the suspicion of Lizzy and there does not seem to be enough people willing to vote MR.

So are you saying you rather be part of a bandwagon then vote for who you think is bad because not enough people agree with you?

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:38 am**

Bass_the_Clever wrote: So are you saying you rather be part of a bandwagon then vote for who you think is bad because not enough people agree with you?

I am pretty sure you're missing the part that I do not want my vote to be useless, as an MR vote would be at this point.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:39 am**

This makes zero sense to me. Voting SOMEONE WHO IS more likely to be A CIVVIE is NOT a wasted vote?

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:40 am**

Okay, Hedge, what's the deal?

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:41 am**

But what if you end up being part of a civ lynch?

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:42 am**

S~V~S wrote:This makes zero sense to me. Voting SOMEONE WHO IS more likely to be A CIVVIE is NOT a wasted vote?

If it saves MP then I do not think it is wasted. You're ignoring my reasoning, clearly. If you don't agree with it, then that's one thing but I have said why I voted the way I did plenty of times, let's not act like I didn't.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:43 am**

So you are saying you are voting for a low poster who is likely a civ in order to save someone lots of people think is bad?

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:43 am**

Bass_the_Clever wrote:But what if you end up being part of a civ lynch?

It's entirely possible and I am not saying it won't happen. As SVS has been so kind to point out, probability wise it's likely. But I do not like the idea of an MP lynch at the moment, and it could be a horrible mistake, if that is the case then I apologize and hope I did not screw the game up!

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