The Syndicate

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:18 am I thought this was just a ****post but now I see it may have been mechanical lmao.

Tranq wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:25 am

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:18 am I thought this was just a ****post but now I see it may have been mechanical lmao.

I see you have learned how to read Rondo

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:18 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 11:23 am Oh I guess its important for me to tell people I got some pizza it was delicious harikiri

Oh this is why DM thinks the 3p's got culled instead of the blue cells. I thought this was just a ****post but now I see it may have been mechanical lmao.

@RondoDimBuckle can you confirm this was mechanical? If so that's excellent news and then yes I agree we just have 3 mafia left

Tranq wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:25 am

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:18 am I thought this was just a ****post but now I see it may have been mechanical lmao.

I see you have learned how to read Rondo

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:05 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 6:03 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 5:50 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 5:46 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 5:45 am That's two days in a row that wolves failed to push me over. Sometimes being the bait has benefits.

yeah thats why I have been doing nothing for the first two days, A its fun to mess with people by doing and saying nothing when they expect me to come in and do stuff and B I sleep.

who you pushing tomorrow?

It's almost 6 AM in my timezone so I'll have to get some sleep before deciding. I will note that Duelist looks questionable based on pure VCA so far

List A: Tranq, Scotty, jess, Porscha, Michelle, gims, DrWilgy, leetic
List B: Vivax, nutella, GoSpursGo, gims, DrWilgy, Scotty, Tranq

A and B: Tranq, Scotty, gims, Wilgy
A or B: Vivax, nutella, jess, porscha, leetic, spurs

Michelle - cleared
Rondo - role card

Tranq - silenced
Gims - funky vibes
Wilgy
Scotty - this might be wrong, it might also be right

jess
leetic - targeted twice (nichol and tekkie)
Vivax - nichols miselim d1
Nutella
spurs - bad vibe
porscha - vote skip/last second pile on

dubz - trekkies miselim d1

Pyxxy - loving his vibe
MacDougall - prob 3p

Epignosis - voted with trekkie d2
Long Con - ????
Duelist Mirage - voted with trekkie d1 and 2

is this an insane take on the game atm?

Not an insane take. Here are a few thoughts:

Scotty: I've had a couple of the same twinges about Scotty, but the way he came in and nailed trek last night is almost completely clearing unless the remaining pack is specifically Scotty/Mac or Scotty/leetic (i.e. someone was going over regardless).

Porscha: This is the other main vote on the Trek wagon that could be a potential bus on Trek, as I outlined in my vote recap above

dubz: good point that this was trek's push on d1. Did Nicole say anything about dubz, and did trek keep that read on d2?

Epig: nicole avoided the epig wagon and voted leetic when epig/leetic were tied

But yeah overall I agree with your groupings. FWIW I can't personally clear you, but I like that we apparently see the world similarly

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:32 am
gonna have to be a bit pedantic on this one. What do you mean "same twinges"? I have not really expounded on any of my scotty twinges so far. So this phrasing really piques my interest

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:42 am man what am I chopped liver? people ask for me to show up. I do and then they all go quiet when I start asking hard questions. Days youve been wanting me to step up. Silly bipeds, I return to monk

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:45 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:32 am
gonna have to be a bit pedantic on this one. What do you mean "same twinges"? I have not really expounded on any of my scotty twinges so far. So this phrasing really piques my interest

Do you need expound on a twinge in order for us to have the same feelings? A "twinge" is kind of by definition rooted in very little other than vibes.

Like you went out of your way to jess's opinion on scotty several times, and your direct interaction didn't feel like a clear town-read, so it felt obvious to me that you were having "twinges."

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 11:02 am So, assuming we are in H without yellow cell or 3p, thinking through the things that could have happened to the NK on N1:

1) Mafia shot the survivalist
2) The doctor targeted the player the mafia targeted for the kill
3) Michelle's spy ability resolved as a roleblock, and Tranq was carrying the mafia kill, and Tranq was also targeted by the silencer (this would be an insane outcome lol)
4) Redirector (there are two) moved the mafia shot to the survivalist
5) Redirector (there are two) moved the doctor shot to the player the mafia targeted for the kill
6) Redirector (there are two) moved Michelle's spy ability to the mafia player carrying the kill and it resolved as a roleblock
7) Parrot copied the doctor and targeted the player the mafia targeted for the kill
8) Parrot copied Michelle's spy ability and targeted the mafia player carrying the kill and it resolved as a roleblock
9) Parrot copied a redirector (there are two) and moved the mafia shot to the survivalist
10) Parrot copied a redirector (there are two) and moved the doctor shot to the player the mafia targeted for the kill
11) Parrot copied a redirector (there are two) and moved Michelle's spy ability to the mafia player carrying the kill and it resolved as a roleblock
12) Redirector (there are two) moved the Parrot target and resulted in one of the scenarios listed above

I think the bottom line is that with 2 redirectors and a parrot, it isn't really obvious that Michelle and the silencer both intended to target tranq, and it isn't necessarily obvious that Michelle's ability resolved as a silencing effect, and there could be additional roleblock outcomes due to the parrot

Tranq wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 11:25 am 13) Epi's roleplay prize was a cummuter ability + Mafia targetted Epi
14) Epi's roleplay prize was a doctor ability + Mafia targetted Epi's target
+ all additional Redirector/Parrot variations

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 11:46 am My god.. What a pile of possibilities!

Tranq wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 11:58 am Maybe the Bus Driver switched both of the Redirector's targets (Michelle onto Tranq and Trekkie onto ???) which resulted in the Parrot eating Rondo's pizza.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 12:02 pm Thread play remains the clue to solve the game

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 12:02 pm Thread play remains the clue to solve the game

gims wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 12:06 pm I want to know how DM knows its a 5 team scumteam with no neutrolls

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 12:02 pm Thread play remains the clue to solve the game

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 5:06 am Arigato

Trekkie has been eliminated.

Their affiliation was:

Spoiler: show

MAFIA

Their role was:

Spoiler: show

Silencer - You will target someone each night. That player will be silenced and unable to post the following day. You may target yourself.

It is now night two. You have ~24 hours to get in your night actions.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 7:40 am

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 7:24 am Oh yeah, can put Vivax on the Do Not Target list as well

I really should try to sleep more now

why do you want me to die?

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 12:11 pm

gims wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 12:06 pm I want to know how DM knows its a 5 team scumteam with no neutrolls

Because Rondo got pizza.

There are 20 players, meaning 3 roles from the 23 possibilities have been culled. The yellow cell (supatownie) always gets culled first. The green cell (druid) mechanically must be in the game given the modpeek N1. So the only other way to get rid of the other two roles is for both blue cells to go away (mafia athlete + town pizza chef) or for both 3ps to go away. Since pizza exists, the blue cell roles must exist, and the 3ps must not.

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 8:53 am I didn't want to make a whole thing about this yesterday, but I didn't like this argument because I think it's obviously different making a snap read on page 4 vs making associative reads based on a confirmed red flip

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 12:31 pm

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 8:53 am I didn't want to make a whole thing about this yesterday, but I didn't like this argument because I think it's obviously different making a snap read on page 4 vs making associative reads based on a confirmed red flip

If Tranq is town and Epi is familiar enough with him to be making a page 4 snap read off of very little, like he did the other game (and is now claiming was not a real read??) then I'd expect a significant chance of finding Tranq town easily again in the next game where Tranq is town. And thus not even be looking at these associative reads.

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 8:59 am I was just confused about the progression. Maybe you talk about it more later

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 6:03 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 5:50 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 5:46 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 5:45 am That's two days in a row that wolves failed to push me over. Sometimes being the bait has benefits.

yeah thats why I have been doing nothing for the first two days, A its fun to mess with people by doing and saying nothing when they expect me to come in and do stuff and B I sleep.

who you pushing tomorrow?

It's almost 6 AM in my timezone so I'll have to get some sleep before deciding. I will note that Duelist looks questionable based on pure VCA so far

List A: Tranq, Scotty, jess, Porscha, Michelle, gims, DrWilgy, leetic
List B: Vivax, nutella, GoSpursGo, gims, DrWilgy, Scotty, Tranq

A and B: Tranq, Scotty, gims, Wilgy
A or B: Vivax, nutella, jess, porscha, leetic, spurs

Michelle - cleared
Rondo - role card

Tranq - silenced
Gims - funky vibes
Wilgy
Scotty - this might be wrong, it might also be right

jess
leetic - targeted twice (nichol and tekkie)
Vivax - nichols miselim d1
Nutella
spurs - bad vibe
porscha - vote skip/last second pile on

dubz - trekkies miselim d1

Pyxxy - loving his vibe
MacDougall - prob 3p

Epignosis - voted with trekkie d2
Long Con - ????
Duelist Mirage - voted with trekkie d1 and 2

is this an insane take on the game atm?

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 12:33 pm

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 8:59 am I was just confused about the progression. Maybe you talk about it more later

What's to be confused about?? If anything I'd expect concern that it didn't change much

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 9:39 am DM spent a LOT of yesterday trying to find any reason to talk about anyone except Mac or Trek.

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 12:36 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 6:03 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 5:50 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 5:46 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 5:45 am That's two days in a row that wolves failed to push me over. Sometimes being the bait has benefits.

yeah thats why I have been doing nothing for the first two days, A its fun to mess with people by doing and saying nothing when they expect me to come in and do stuff and B I sleep.

who you pushing tomorrow?

It's almost 6 AM in my timezone so I'll have to get some sleep before deciding. I will note that Duelist looks questionable based on pure VCA so far

List A: Tranq, Scotty, jess, Porscha, Michelle, gims, DrWilgy, leetic
List B: Vivax, nutella, GoSpursGo, gims, DrWilgy, Scotty, Tranq

A and B: Tranq, Scotty, gims, Wilgy
A or B: Vivax, nutella, jess, porscha, leetic, spurs

Michelle - cleared
Rondo - role card

Tranq - silenced
Gims - funky vibes
Wilgy
Scotty - this might be wrong, it might also be right

jess
leetic - targeted twice (nichol and tekkie)
Vivax - nichols miselim d1
Nutella
spurs - bad vibe
porscha - vote skip/last second pile on

dubz - trekkies miselim d1

Pyxxy - loving his vibe
MacDougall - prob 3p

Epignosis - voted with trekkie d2
Long Con - ????
Duelist Mirage - voted with trekkie d1 and 2

is this an insane take on the game atm?

Assuming it is indeed the 5 mafia world, we are currently at 15v3. I'll just assume for sanity's sake that the NK will succeed each night going forward, but with all the redirects flying around there's a real chance the mafia will shoot themselves and/or Michelle will kill someone using her spy effect. After tonight's NK.

14/3, miselim/NK-->
12/3, miselim/NK-->
10/3, miselim/NK-->
8/3, miselim/NK-->
6/3, miselim/NK-->
4/3, miselim-->parity

So we have 6 miselims before we lose. And if this is an accurate read of the gamestate, we should have adequate time to go through a relatively tight POE (even if I'm not clearing Rondo the way he is)

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 5:06 am Arigato

Trekkie has been eliminated.

Their affiliation was:

Spoiler: show

MAFIA

Their role was:

Spoiler: show

Silencer - You will target someone each night. That player will be silenced and unable to post the following day. You may target yourself.

It is now night two. You have ~24 hours to get in your night actions.

Tranq wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 5:22 am

Trekkie99 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 7:18 am Voting Pyxxy feels lame

Voting Pyxxy feels pretty good now

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:05 am dubz: good point that this was trek's push on d1. Did Nicole say anything about dubz, and did trek keep that read on d2?

gims wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:14 am

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:13 am

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 7:01 am

gims wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 6:41 am so I just opened the thing and we're almost certainly in the letter H and it says there are two neutrolls in the game so how come there aren't any?

There's 23 roles listed but we have only 20 players, some of them are not present and there's specific ones that could be missing. I broke this down earlier at the start of day. It does seem like we probably had the 2 indies and the supatownie taken out, thank goodness.

Why do you assume the two 3ps would be removed instead of the blue cells? Like supatownie definitely got removed, and it appears that Druid is in the game, but then I can't tell why you would assume the 3p's were culled rather than the blue cells.

awesome can we nail DM for TMI?

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 12:47 pm

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:05 am dubz: good point that this was trek's push on d1. Did Nicole say anything about dubz, and did trek keep that read on d2?

No, it was an empty vote from Trekkie, there was no "push" on Dubz. Could easily be distancing thinking that leetic is going to go over and not being around to see Nicole wagon happen after? Like, all this is just reinforcing that mafia were just too not present to avoid Nicole going over.

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 12:51 pm

gims wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:14 am

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:13 am

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 7:01 am

gims wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 6:41 am so I just opened the thing and we're almost certainly in the letter H and it says there are two neutrolls in the game so how come there aren't any?

There's 23 roles listed but we have only 20 players, some of them are not present and there's specific ones that could be missing. I broke this down earlier at the start of day. It does seem like we probably had the 2 indies and the supatownie taken out, thank goodness.

Why do you assume the two 3ps would be removed instead of the blue cells? Like supatownie definitely got removed, and it appears that Druid is in the game, but then I can't tell why you would assume the 3p's were culled rather than the blue cells.

awesome can we nail DM for TMI?

I don't wanna pop off on you when you have important stuff to do today so go focus on that and then we can talk about how absurd and insulting you're being

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:18 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 11:23 am Oh I guess its important for me to tell people I got some pizza it was delicious harikiri

Oh this is why DM thinks the 3p's got culled instead of the blue cells. I thought this was just a ****post but now I see it may have been mechanical lmao.

@RondoDimBuckle can you confirm this was mechanical? If so that's excellent news and then yes I agree we just have 3 mafia left

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 1:07 pm I'm just gonna share this because at this point any of us could die at any point with all of the redirectors floating around. It's very similar to Rondo's worldview from earlier, which is in large part why I've got him in the middle rather than the POE

Mechanically confirmed town
Michelle

Never rescind town unless they're alive at mylo/lylo
nutella
Wilgy
gims

Very, very likely town
vivax
Scotty
Tranq
leetic

Probably town
Porscha
Jess

The middle
Rondo
dubz

POE:
Epig
pyxxy
Mac
DM
Long Con

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 6:20 am

gims wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 6:17 am Dubz
Duelist Mirage
Epignosis
leetic
Long Con
MacDougall
Porscha
Pyxxy
RondoDimBuckle

if I had to longshot an immediate POE it'd look like this

see this is what I mean by funky vibes, when does gims take me out of a poe because Mac and Michelle say Im town?