Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 8]
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:42 am
so what's happening with made? i thought he was exploding
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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WIlgy claimed not to use his power, and nobody said in thread they were in a btsc other than who hyena targeted
Point me to these posts.Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:01 pmJPIC is a complete toss up for me. Like, there has been a lot of stuff that I wanted to lock him town for, but every once in a while, he'll say something that'll make me do a double take and think "am I wrong here?". I've pointed out a couple of these things in previous posts. I feel like I had a strong reason to call Michelle town earlier, but I dunno if she's done anything since then that makes me want to continue calling her town. I dunno.Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:57 pmHow do I make a Venn diagram from that info? o:Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:50 pmVenn diagram now with the general thread suspicions.Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:47 pm Either way, I think I've found the four of the five people that -I- need to have auto? Those people are Tim, HK, LC, and Tutuu. I think Kyle would make an okay 5th, and if not, Syn would probably okay. Don't care about anyone else -- you can yeet them in any order now for all I care.
Either way, I don't want to try reading Made anymore. I still have a mild suspicion of Dizzy, even if there has been more stuff I liked from them the past two day phases. I just can't shake away those bad gut feelings. One thing in particular that still weirded me out is the "cold feet" that the started getting on 112 right before 112 claimed 3P. It felt like Dizzy wanted 112 yeeted, thinking 112 was town, but didn't want to look bad for voting them later. Then, the "cold feet" seemed to disappear immediately once 112 claimed 3P.
I only townread you for your powersHyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:39 pmIgnoring my powers, do you townread me? Or do you townread me just because of my powers and how I've been using them?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:30 pm I really just cannot see who it can be other than it being made.
Hyena maybe. But the powers have been used for good but just not confident there
Michelle maybe, but she was pretty pro-yeet Ted and the tutuu tunnel feels like it comes more from town than scum
Everybody else has very solid reasons to be townread
Made, you are welcomehollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:49 pmbecause nobody cares enough to call her on it?Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:46 pmRight. How could the last (?) wolf laser-focus on a mech-cleared villager for so long?
Like ok, assume Michelle is a wolf, and she's been hyperfocused on Tutuu for days. Nobody is susing Michelle based on that tutuu read, nobody is pushing her on it, we're all just like "oh michelle your tunnel is so quaint" and then we forget about it.
Keeping the "push" as it were on tutuu absolves Michelle from solving other people, she can just keep defaulting to tutuu wolf as long as we're not pressuring her for other things.
Maybe we ought to do that, no?
@Michelle gimmie wolf reads that aren't tutuu please and thank you
You wouldn't shot LC because he was protected.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:51 pmThis is unfortunately true. I never say anything as town that isn't what I would say as a wolf, and vice versa. However, I would never have a chance to say it as a wolf, because it is true that as a wolf I would not have shot Radishes. I'd have shot someone less surely in my pocket with an ability that could cause me problems, like LC...and I wouldn't have fired my extra KP into the guy town is fixed on chopping.Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:43 pmthis is exactly what w!Tim would sayTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:41 pm Okay, fine...no kill Kyle, but I'm just gonna kill made. Reading the thread yesterday it was like "if it isn't Wilgy it's Made" from top to bottom and side to side. I genuinely had no choice but to do the due diligent town vig thing and try to shoot him. If y'all go haring off in some wild new direction today just because he shrugged off a vig shot and had some confusing power interaction with Kyle you gotta go without me.
[VOTE: Made] aubergine
By the way, if you think w!Tim shot the only person who fully understood how town sided I have been all game long, get help. I didn't kill Radishes and I'm not a wolf. Period.
No
NoTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:16 pm Is there any concrete reason that Syn isn't a wolf other than "silenced Sloonei" and "feels towny"?
Good memory, i forgot about it, then yesDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:18 pmCharged at Marmot. Is pro town with powers.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:16 pm Is there any concrete reason that Syn isn't a wolf other than "silenced Sloonei" and "feels towny"?
Caught up until that post, why is Made in your town core?Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:33 pm@Michelle You might be replacing Syn in the towncore. The new people in charge are still discussing it.Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:32 pmOkay, cool.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:26 pmI'll pick SynHyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:23 pmMADE! NO! WE'RE A TOWN CORE! PICK SOMEONE -NOT- IN THOSE FOUR!!!Made wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:13 pmI’d say it’s always Long Con as town. Tim is probably scum, HK could be scum, Long Con is almost always townHyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:49 pmThere's 11 players remaining. If the five of us are town, then we only need to find ONE more person that's town, excluding @Alison (though Alison, if you want to help out with this, you're free to join, too). Who should be the last person we include in our towncore?
@Timsup2nothin
@Made
@Long Con
@hollowkatt
@Syn You're now in the new towncore with me, Tim, Made, HK, and LC. There's six of us, and five of them -- we just chop them one by one now and we win, assuming the six of us are all town! How do you feel about that?
Villagers are usually increasing in willingness to solve and not sleeping on a mechanically clearing.
That means yesterday was t/t in your opinion?Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:39 pmBecause I'm flipping this game upside down. Made was on the bottom, so now, I'm putting him on the top (except for me, of course -- I'm in charge here now).hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:35 pmfair. I'm scared of both of you.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:30 pmI'm getting a little scared of Syn tho.Spoiler: show
@Hyena why are you putting made in the town core
Also, we're probably chopping one of JPIC or Dizzy today. Whichever stays will -probably- get a momentary reprieve from getting chopped the next day, which is when we'll probably chop one of Kyle or Syn if the game doesn't end. Those are the plans for the next two day phases.
Mechanically, everyone is clearing tutuu because Kyle didn't have a reaction for her, and he wasn't blocked.
You were not confused by the mechanics until nowtutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:55 pmwhy would i townread u? just coz u claimed vig? im confused by the mechanicsTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:54 pmMechanics get confusing sometimes, and your refusal to re-evaluate an obviously bad read isn't very townlike?
Why you fear me?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:07 pm @Timsup2nothin the point of that game is: I think you're solidly town, like just unimpeachable, and I know you can take over games.
My concern about you is that you're not. You're content to just exist.
I know you've claimed shots, and the shots you've claimed make sense. I don't dispute that.
What I don't like is that my main perception of you is "you're all all wrong" that you had going for several days while we were chopping wolves.
Suddenly, when you can't impact things by voting and pressuring we start chopping townies. I see you railing vs made but I don't see you actually burying him like I know that town!Tim can do.
With Syn: My concern there is all sorts of tinfoil and doesn't make sense, I think. Like He's playing a really townie game, and he's made the right chops at the right time. It's basically some fear that he's been the mastermind behind those, aka busing.
Like GTH I have Syn as town, and if we (the three of us) make F3 I'm fucked trying to figure out which of you two it is.
I don't think we get there tbh, I think Made is the wolf we're looking for.
i'm also concerned about Michelle. Like of everyone else in the thread Michelle is the one I have the most fear about.
No but i expect you to play the game, not just defend yourself.tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:25 pmwell sure - maybe i dont sheep others all the time so i shouldnt expcet others to aswellHyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:22 pmI'm not saying they have to be wrong on all of their reads! I'm trying to see if you actually believe if that's good evidence from your PoV. Like, what makes their reads on you more credible than any of their other reads? Nutella thought I was lock town -- can I say that I'm lock town because of it, too? And how much would you believe Nutella's read if so?tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:12 pm just cuz they were wrong on some reads it doesnt mean they have to be wrong on all what is that logical fallacy....
if a person making a single wrong read invalidates everything they've done - how do u read people hyena?
tell me how are u townreading anyone rn?
but like. idk man im town lol
what am i supposd to do in a game where i got peeked town, and when i personally feel ive been obv town regardless, and then ppl start tinfoiling me - what do they want me to do? like-
im not gonna jump around and dance with a hoola loop on my waist if thats what ppl expect me to do thats for sure
Back at this post after reading the thread until it.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:49 pmbecause nobody cares enough to call her on it?Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:46 pmRight. How could the last (?) wolf laser-focus on a mech-cleared villager for so long?
Like ok, assume Michelle is a wolf, and she's been hyperfocused on Tutuu for days. Nobody is susing Michelle based on that tutuu read, nobody is pushing her on it, we're all just like "oh michelle your tunnel is so quaint" and then we forget about it.
Keeping the "push" as it were on tutuu absolves Michelle from solving other people, she can just keep defaulting to tutuu wolf as long as we're not pressuring her for other things.
Maybe we ought to do that, no?
@Michelle gimmie wolf reads that aren't tutuu please and thank you
I leave the game at the end of the next day phase assuming everything goes well (ie. my bargainees dont die). If not it will take longerHyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:10 pm@Alison When exactly do you leave the game again (assuming you leave when you've fulfilled your win con)?Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:07 pmAnd the order I'd go in if I had full control is Made -> Alison -> Dizzy -> Michelle -> JPIC. JPIC is on the border though for me. Made -> Alison and then one of Michelle or Dizzy would probably always be what I would aim for right now though.Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:02 pmOh, that makes sense. Right now, I think Made is in the bottom of the general accepted PoE, and he's, like, somewhere in the middle of mine. I have no problem starting there.Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:59 pmI just mean, let's yeet the strongest overlap between the generally accepted POE and your mirror-universe one.Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:57 pmHow do I make a Venn diagram from that info? o:Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:50 pmVenn diagram now with the general thread suspicions.Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:47 pm Either way, I think I've found the four of the five people that -I- need to have auto? Those people are Tim, HK, LC, and Tutuu. I think Kyle would make an okay 5th, and if not, Syn would probably okay. Don't care about anyone else -- you can yeet them in any order now for all I care.
Either way, I don't want to try reading Made anymore. I still have a mild suspicion of Dizzy, even if there has been more stuff I liked from them the past two day phases. I just can't shake away those bad gut feelings. One thing in particular that still weirded me out is the "cold feet" that the started getting on 112 right before 112 claimed 3P. It felt like Dizzy wanted 112 yeeted, thinking 112 was town, but didn't want to look bad for voting them later. Then, the "cold feet" seemed to disappear immediately once 112 claimed 3P.
Yes, assuming yesterday had no vote shenanigans, I should be a double voter today.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:24 amYeah, sorry missed it.
@Justplayingitcool Can you confirm again that having two votes today would be your ability today?
Pheww, the fact you put Made in town core made me doubt my sanity but this idea looks better.Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:02 pmOh, that makes sense. Right now, I think Made is in the bottom of the general accepted PoE, and he's, like, somewhere in the middle of mine. I have no problem starting there.Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:59 pmI just mean, let's yeet the strongest overlap between the generally accepted POE and your mirror-universe one.Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:57 pmHow do I make a Venn diagram from that info? o:Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:50 pmVenn diagram now with the general thread suspicions.Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:47 pm Either way, I think I've found the four of the five people that -I- need to have auto? Those people are Tim, HK, LC, and Tutuu. I think Kyle would make an okay 5th, and if not, Syn would probably okay. Don't care about anyone else -- you can yeet them in any order now for all I care.
Either way, I don't want to try reading Made anymore. I still have a mild suspicion of Dizzy, even if there has been more stuff I liked from them the past two day phases. I just can't shake away those bad gut feelings. One thing in particular that still weirded me out is the "cold feet" that the started getting on 112 right before 112 claimed 3P. It felt like Dizzy wanted 112 yeeted, thinking 112 was town, but didn't want to look bad for voting them later. Then, the "cold feet" seemed to disappear immediately once 112 claimed 3P.
[VOTE: Made] aubergineMade wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:37 pm but yeah, uh, I don't actually think tutuu is scum. LC is prob fine. Kill Tim then kill HK. Personally, I'd go for someone else before Alison, but that cuz i still don't see why she needs to die. but yeah.
great game ____ & _____!! (i technically can't mention their names or i'm complying with the curse)
see y'all on the flip side
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It is finished.
Do you know for a fact that you can't steal passives?
To add to this, as far as I am aware I have become a double voter from day 3 onwards.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:48 am To be perfectly clear on my role, I become a double voter if I correctly guess the over and under on the leading wagon from the visible votes on the poll. So if I guessed over on 6, and my vote is on that wagon and the votes are exactly 6, then it becomes a push. While I am a double voter, it would only count as 6 because my double vote obviously doesn't show on the poll.
The numbers I receive are all based on EoD writeups.
The number today is 6 and I need to be over it to become a double voter.
Why you asked yesterday to have the wagon bigger than 5 if you have double vote anyway?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:17 amTo add to this, as far as I am aware I have become a double voter from day 3 onwards.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:48 am To be perfectly clear on my role, I become a double voter if I correctly guess the over and under on the leading wagon from the visible votes on the poll. So if I guessed over on 6, and my vote is on that wagon and the votes are exactly 6, then it becomes a push. While I am a double voter, it would only count as 6 because my double vote obviously doesn't show on the poll.
The numbers I receive are all based on EoD writeups.
The number today is 6 and I need to be over it to become a double voter.
because it only lasts a day, and I have to guess the over and under each night phase. If I'm wrong I become a zero voter.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:44 amWhy you asked yesterday to have the wagon bigger than 5 if you have double vote anyway?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:17 amTo add to this, as far as I am aware I have become a double voter from day 3 onwards.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:48 am To be perfectly clear on my role, I become a double voter if I correctly guess the over and under on the leading wagon from the visible votes on the poll. So if I guessed over on 6, and my vote is on that wagon and the votes are exactly 6, then it becomes a push. While I am a double voter, it would only count as 6 because my double vote obviously doesn't show on the poll.
The numbers I receive are all based on EoD writeups.
The number today is 6 and I need to be over it to become a double voter.
I understand, then someone should make a counter wagon igJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:52 am I have been correct on each guess so far.
I need the leading wagon to be over 6 today; otherwise, I will be a zero voter, assuming I am alive and the game doesn't end. If it's exactly 6, it's a push.
Gotcha
You dont have to use the silence if you dont want to, just accept the bargain