The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:45 pm**

does anyone have an argument for not voting boo? waiting.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:50 pm**

He’s pro-killing lurkers which I like

There’s probably a scum between him and sloonei tho with the way their deal thing played out

So taking the coinflip is fine

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:03 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:45 pm does anyone have an argument for not voting boo? waiting.

I don't think his ISO warrants it. I see genuine civ boo play when I look at it.

I've played with him for years.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:51 pm**

turnip <3 <3

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:52 pm**

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:53 pm**

would like more people who think boo is town to tell me why he's town if anyone believes that. if not, i'll move my vote there end of day i guess.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:54 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:03 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:45 pm does anyone have an argument for not voting boo? waiting.
I don't think his ISO warrants it. I see genuine civ boo play when I look at it. I've played with him for years.

what are some notable civ boo moments? what do you look for when you are looking for scum boo?

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:56 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:34 am Where is JammedShinyKey?

replaced by sloonei.

people voting for creature, get yer votes off creature.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:58 pm**

actually, i'm wary of all the s's right now

speedchuck
sig
sloonei

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:04 pm**

So we’re just going to ignore actually useful info in favor of “reads”? Cool

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:35 pm**

i am an intuitive player who is playing like poop this game. feel free to do you, though.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:54 pm**

Deffo don’t see why we’re abandoning [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine whose play the whole game can be summarized as “oh yeah, I remember he’s playing, he’s scummy”

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:18 pm**

boo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:37 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:38 am Road map:

Sloonei really wanted to lynch Colin. He also had a few other people he was okay with lynching, such as Rej, TSP and LC.

Boo really wanted to lynch TSP. He also wanted to lynch Sloonei. He was not interested on lynching LC or Rej. He was okay with lynching Colin.

Boo realized he has less votes on him than Sloonei, so he made "an offer you can't refuse" to Sloonei. Vote for TSP with him, and Boo would change his second vote from Sloonei to Colin. Sloonei accepted. By this point, Sloonei had already voted for Rej, but changed off it on the grounds of "there are enough people on him".

Towards the EoD, Sloonei voiced interest in switching to a Rej lynch again. Boo then reminded Sloonei he still had a gun pointed to his head, and threatened to change his vote back to him if he backed down on the "deal". Sloonei accepted it.

This is what happened. Interpret the alignments how want.
Actually, of Colin, TSP and Sloonei, I didn't really care who got lynched. I just wanted to make Sloonei not vote in the way he seemingly wanted to, so locking him up into a position I had a gun to his head was my endgoal. I made him a deal, he took it, I correctly assumed LA would move a vote to Sloonei to replace my keeping Sloonei in a dangerous position, so all I had to do to keep Sloonei locked was threaten to move him into first with Rej if he broke.

Meaning: for putting my votes on 2 people I was fine with seeing lynched, I was able to get Sloonei's votes onto people I was fine with seeing lynched, and kept Sloonei out of play for the rest of the lynch if he wanted to survive. From an information standpoint, it wound up probably being detrimental, but I really didn't trust Sloonei at the time so I didn't want to let him make any moves that would decide the lynch.

Your problem is that you don't assume your read on Sloonei could be wrong.

If it is, your plan sucks.

If not, your plan still kind of sucks because you deprive us of info.

I's lose/lose.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:21 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:45 pm does anyone have an argument for not voting boo? waiting.

Do you think a player who is trying to look civilian would do the stuff he is doing on purpose?

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:24 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:54 pm Deffo don’t see why we’re abandoning [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine whose play the whole game can be summarized as “oh yeah, I remember he’s playing, he’s scummy”

He also killed scum when he could’ve saved them, so. I will riot if we kill him today.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:25 pm**

I'm gennuinely curious about the prospect of playing mafia with creature now that he's actually playing.

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:26 pm**

Speed sheeped on my Rej case and then later on he tried to start a Rej case on his own.

If he is bad he made a serious attempt to bus his faction's possibly strongest role on day 1.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:26 pm**

Sig also killed mafia when he could’ve saved them.

Seriously what is wrong with you people

Like sure these guys could be mafia, but we have a much more interesting POE to work through

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:27 pm**

Also genuinely curious to see if the dunyadar is still reliable when it's not fed by 300 posts a day.

And wondering why I didn't stay on Sig yesterday.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:29 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:26 pm Sig also killed mafia when he could’ve saved them.

Seriously what is wrong with you people

Like sure these guys could be mafia, but we have a much more interesting POE to work through

The Syndicate has a history with bussing so glorious other sites should come here to take notes and learn something. No one busses like we do.

Which is why even in speed's case I give it at least a 30% chance he could have bussed Rej.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:31 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:26 pm Sig also killed mafia when he could’ve saved them.

Seriously what is wrong with you people

Like sure these guys could be mafia, but we have a much more interesting POE to work through

But like describe the Sig thing because I think I missed it.

What part of the day did he vote for Rej?

If it was a throwaway vote early when Rej was not in danger I don't give that much meaning.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:32 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:04 pm So we’re just going to ignore actually useful info in favor of “reads”? Cool

I thought your post was one of the most useful and effective ones i have seen today. I think you implicated Sloonei with it, and Sloon is tied for the most votes.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:33 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:29 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:26 pm Sig also killed mafia when he could’ve saved them.

Seriously what is wrong with you people

Like sure these guys could be mafia, but we have a much more interesting POE to work through
The Syndicate has a history with bussing so glorious other sites should come here to take notes and learn something. No one busses like we do.

Which is why even in speed's case I give it at least a 30% chance he could have bussed Rej.

I might personally be account for the bussing that takes place on this site though.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:33 pm**

Yup. "be account"

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:34 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:31 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:26 pm Sig also killed mafia when he could’ve saved them.

Seriously what is wrong with you people

Like sure these guys could be mafia, but we have a much more interesting POE to work through
But like describe the Sig thing because I think I missed it.

What part of the day did he vote for Rej?

If it was a throwaway vote early when Rej was not in danger I don't give that much meaning.

Don’t know don’t care, if he was scum he could’ve jumped to save rej. He didn’t. Thus, I’m not interested in him today.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:34 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:34 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:31 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:26 pm Sig also killed mafia when he could’ve saved them.

Seriously what is wrong with you people

Like sure these guys could be mafia, but we have a much more interesting POE to work through
But like describe the Sig thing because I think I missed it.

What part of the day did he vote for Rej?

If it was a throwaway vote early when Rej was not in danger I don't give that much meaning.
Don’t know don’t care, if he was scum he could’ve jumped to save rej. He didn’t. Thus, I’m not interested in him today.

It is notable that Rej is a very very good role, and a terrible bus to make.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:35 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:34 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:31 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:26 pm Sig also killed mafia when he could’ve saved them.

Seriously what is wrong with you people

Like sure these guys could be mafia, but we have a much more interesting POE to work through
But like describe the Sig thing because I think I missed it.

What part of the day did he vote for Rej?

If it was a throwaway vote early when Rej was not in danger I don't give that much meaning.
Don’t know don’t care, if he was scum he could’ve jumped to save rej. He didn’t. Thus, I’m not interested in him today.

Such a sweet summer child.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:36 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:29 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:26 pm Sig also killed mafia when he could’ve saved them.

Seriously what is wrong with you people

Like sure these guys could be mafia, but we have a much more interesting POE to work through
The Syndicate has a history with bussing so glorious other sites should come here to take notes and learn something. No one busses like we do.

Which is why even in speed's case I give it at least a 30% chance he could have bussed Rej.

That’s cool. There’s still better choices for scum to make.

Again, not hard clearing people, but we can build a pretty good POE to look in before we go to “let’s tinfoil that scum said fuck you rej we don’t want your awesome role around!”

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:37 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:32 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:04 pm So we’re just going to ignore actually useful info in favor of “reads”? Cool
I thought your post was one of the most useful and effective ones i have seen today. I think you implicated Sloonei with it, and Sloon is tied for the most votes.

Yeah, I think there’s a really good chance sloonei or Colin is scum. I also don’t think sloonei and boo are W/W. So sloonei is the best place to start imo.

I don’t see how any town can want to kill outside of those two tbh

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:39 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:35 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:34 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:31 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:26 pm Sig also killed mafia when he could’ve saved them.

Seriously what is wrong with you people

Like sure these guys could be mafia, but we have a much more interesting POE to work through
But like describe the Sig thing because I think I missed it.

What part of the day did he vote for Rej?

If it was a throwaway vote early when Rej was not in danger I don't give that much meaning.
Don’t know don’t care, if he was scum he could’ve jumped to save rej. He didn’t. Thus, I’m not interested in him today.
Such a sweet summer child.

Yeah I’ve never seen a bus before, I definitely didn’t learn how to play on a site with some of the most ruthless bussers I’ve ever seen that will do shit like bus their Godfather partner into the ground D1.

Teach me what a bus is bb

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:40 pm**

Or just shake off a strong POE with handwavey “yeah but what if they bussed tho” and ignore context completely, that’s cool too

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:40 pm**

I’m sure it will work out for you

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:49 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:39 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:35 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:34 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:31 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:26 pm Sig also killed mafia when he could’ve saved them.

Seriously what is wrong with you people

Like sure these guys could be mafia, but we have a much more interesting POE to work through
But like describe the Sig thing because I think I missed it.

What part of the day did he vote for Rej?

If it was a throwaway vote early when Rej was not in danger I don't give that much meaning.
Don’t know don’t care, if he was scum he could’ve jumped to save rej. He didn’t. Thus, I’m not interested in him today.
Such a sweet summer child.
Yeah I’ve never seen a bus before, I definitely didn’t learn how to play on a site with some of the most ruthless bussers I’ve ever seen that will do shit like bus their Godfather partner into the ground D1.

Teach me what a bus is bb

Then answer my question with something better than this:

Don’t know don’t care, if he was scum he could’ve jumped to save rej. He didn’t. Thus, I’m not interested in him today.

If you think "Sig voted for scum therefore he is town" passes for "analysis" then you don't deserve to be taken seriously.

The least you can do is read Sig's actual posts and try to figure out what he was thinking when he voted for Rej.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:50 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:40 pm Or just shake off a strong POE with handwavey “yeah but what if they bussed tho” and ignore context completely, that’s cool too

Your PoE is paper thin.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:51 pm**

You’re not paying attention. I’m not hard clearing him or saying he’s 100% town never reconsider, I’m saying that for right now, in the immediate, he’s a dumb fucking kill

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:51 pm**

“Do actual work Nanook!”

*nanook does actual work*

“We don’t like your work Nanook!”

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:52 pm**

I mean, you are the one refusing to ignore context. I asked you to describe Sig's vote. You replied with "I don't give a fuck, I see his name on the poll in front of Rej's so he is confirmed civilian".

Protip: if your PoE only requires reading the poll thread to build, you are not actually playing the game.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:53 pm**

NOT confirmed civilian, you dumbass. Just not interested in today.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:54 pm**

Wow you’re not even close to accurately describing my stance at all, jfc

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:55 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:51 pm You’re not paying attention. I’m not hard clearing him or saying he’s 100% town never reconsider, I’m saying that for right now, in the immediate, he’s a dumb fucking kill

Why

Please link me to the rule book you're using that says how long we are supposed to wait before considering there could be bussing in this game.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:55 pm**

Look, I’m trying to be nice here, but you’re not making it easy. Fairly basic analysis and approach is going right over your head, idk what to do with that tbh.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:56 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:55 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:51 pm You’re not paying attention. I’m not hard clearing him or saying he’s 100% town never reconsider, I’m saying that for right now, in the immediate, he’s a dumb fucking kill
Why

Please link me to the rule book you're using that says how long we are supposed to wait before considering there could be bussing in this game.

I feel like I shouldn’t have to explain why bussing rej’s role is objectively bad for scum, and thus there’s likely no more than one scum on his vote at most.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:57 pm**

I also feel like I shouldn’t have to explain more why Colin and sloonei are really really really good kills today

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:57 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:53 pm NOT confirmed civilian, you dumbass. Just not interested in today.

Ok.

Then don't vote for Sig.

I will vote for Sig.

If you don't care about explaining why you don't think he can't be scum, then you can stop posting and let us lynch Sig if we want to.

What I will not do is obey you just because you have decided that we should all follow your playstyle without any further explanation from your part.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:58 pm**

What is it about sig that twists the perception of his vote to a bus? Specifically. Was the timing that bad? Did he try to urge others to vote elsewhere even as he voted?

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:58 pm**

I mean I did explain. At least LC got it.

I’ve played with people more willfully ignorant than you, but not a lot.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:58 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:56 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:55 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:51 pm You’re not paying attention. I’m not hard clearing him or saying he’s 100% town never reconsider, I’m saying that for right now, in the immediate, he’s a dumb fucking kill
Why

Please link me to the rule book you're using that says how long we are supposed to wait before considering there could be bussing in this game.
I feel like I shouldn’t have to explain why bussing rej’s role is objectively bad for scum, and thus there’s likely no more than one scum on his vote at most.

Funny, "one scum" is exactly what we are trying to catch today.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:59 pm**

We have exponentially higher odds of catching scum in sloonei/Colin than we do in a tinfoily paranoia sig kill

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:59 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:58 pm What is it about sig that twists the perception of his vote to a bus? Specifically. Was the timing that bad? Did he try to urge others to vote elsewhere even as he voted?

Shhhhh LC, we are not allowed to consider those things. The poll alone forbids us from looking at Sig's ISO and analysing his logic.

Posted: **Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:01 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:59 pm We have exponentially higher odds of catching scum in sloonei/Colin than we do in a tinfoily paranoia sig kill

Ok, I'm an idiot for not spontaneously developing the same opinion as you.

I'm sorry for engaging you in a conversation. I will not do that again. You can go vote for not-Sig without being bothered by others.

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