Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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the reason I mention it is because Gavial was the only one to consider this team, and he switched the team seemingly arbitrarily
Well, if you're gonna vote me on what should be a clearing interaction, you're gonna have to do better than "bad feelings" and at least make an attempt to think critically about itDyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 11:32 amI got a creepy feeling in the back of my head. That is literally it. I also got a creepy feeling when LC, as I saw it, tried to buddy me in his response. I went to look at that, but then I found another post which I liked for him (talking openly about not wanting to kill Fingers). There's no huge line or train of thought here, if that was not clear. So I can't give you that.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 9:04 pmSo what do you think the circumstances are that made it a scummy, partnered response?
Nearest thing would be that you would want to put distance between you and Jimmay, because you want to do that in general, and the tone between you just ticked me off. But I haven't reread it, I don't know how much I agree with myself past my initial, admittedly pretty small impression.
I think lc is fully capable of sassing anyone as either alignment lolDyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 11:40 amI also liked LC's "Watch who you're accusing here!" to Gavial, when Gavial was throwing shade his way after Invictius was dead. I don't really think LC talks that way to confirmed town at that point. I find it hard to suspect LC.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 3:08 am The other thing with lc is
When Alison did her thing to try and make herself look town by scumreading seth then quick changing it to a townread, lc went right after it
Tbf it was a teammate read but still, don't think Alison's partner needs to try and blow up her spot like that
And yes, he's right. I remember it as it being possible that he would be yeeted. But I may be wrong. But Invictius was certainly supporting a flow in that direction.
I created a POE? That doesn't sound like me.Syn wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 12:07 pmthat POE was created by LC after JJJ's case on Tony and reinforced by JJJ after Marmot outedDyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 11:38 am
I think saying I have tried to keep an open PoE is missing the mark by huge amounts. I feel exactly the opposite. It's just that the PoE I had (which was pretty much JJJ/Tony) didn't solve it. I also didn't even know Invictius was Plat when I first started, something Jimmay didn't even bring up, so there's a pretty duh hint right there.
and yetLong Con wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:24 pmI created a POE? That doesn't sound like me.Syn wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 12:07 pmthat POE was created by LC after JJJ's case on Tony and reinforced by JJJ after Marmot outedDyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 11:38 am
I think saying I have tried to keep an open PoE is missing the mark by huge amounts. I feel exactly the opposite. It's just that the PoE I had (which was pretty much JJJ/Tony) didn't solve it. I also didn't even know Invictius was Plat when I first started, something Jimmay didn't even bring up, so there's a pretty duh hint right there.
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 00#p791998NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:11 pmThen point me to it I clearly don't remember it
I guess we have different definitions or something.Syn wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:37 pmand yetLong Con wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:24 pmI created a POE? That doesn't sound like me.Syn wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 12:07 pmthat POE was created by LC after JJJ's case on Tony and reinforced by JJJ after Marmot outedDyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 11:38 am
I think saying I have tried to keep an open PoE is missing the mark by huge amounts. I feel exactly the opposite. It's just that the PoE I had (which was pretty much JJJ/Tony) didn't solve it. I also didn't even know Invictius was Plat when I first started, something Jimmay didn't even bring up, so there's a pretty duh hint right there.
ok, I've gone through your ISO and here's where you're first vocalizing suspicion on me:NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:43 pm Eh
Still kinda think it's hk over lc but
I'll think about it more
I know why I clear Syn but I don't understand what you mean here: "Tbh if dk went that hard d1 I'm kinda fine losing to it atp"NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:42 am I'm pretty sure it's between hk and dizzy
I'm looking at how plat treated everyone, I think he was more than likely actually trying to get lc dead, or it looked like that to me at least, and his dk read looks like a classic "I'm gonna come in and tr two townies arguing cause it'll look good for me later" move to me
Tbh if dk went that hard d1 I'm kinda fine losing to it atp
I initially thought plat and hk's back and forth looked pretty good for hk, but on reread its kinda meh and feels a bit forced. Hard to tell how much of that is just plat having an awkward "ah yes I'm being suspected this is good actually" and how much it's partners doing theater
Dizzy is kinda meh, I dont reallllly think he's mafia if im being honest, but I don't love the way he's handled my slot, and he's seemed like he's been trying to keep the poe fairly wide, so meh, he's fine on tone but thats not really enough atp
So my poe is dizzy and hk, lock it in
I reread it and changed my mindhollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:45 pmok, I've gone through your ISO and here's where you're first vocalizing suspicion on me:NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:43 pm Eh
Still kinda think it's hk over lc but
I'll think about it moreI know why I clear Syn but I don't understand what you mean here: "Tbh if dk went that hard d1 I'm kinda fine losing to it atp"NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:42 am I'm pretty sure it's between hk and dizzy
I'm looking at how plat treated everyone, I think he was more than likely actually trying to get lc dead, or it looked like that to me at least, and his dk read looks like a classic "I'm gonna come in and tr two townies arguing cause it'll look good for me later" move to me
Tbh if dk went that hard d1 I'm kinda fine losing to it atp
I initially thought plat and hk's back and forth looked pretty good for hk, but on reread its kinda meh and feels a bit forced. Hard to tell how much of that is just plat having an awkward "ah yes I'm being suspected this is good actually" and how much it's partners doing theater
Dizzy is kinda meh, I dont reallllly think he's mafia if im being honest, but I don't love the way he's handled my slot, and he's seemed like he's been trying to keep the poe fairly wide, so meh, he's fine on tone but thats not really enough atp
So my poe is dizzy and hk, lock it in
You think Invictius was legit pushing LC, that's why you clear LC. There's no possibility of a bus there for you?
You initially thought I looked good with my back and forth with Invictius but now you don't, why not? What feels "meh and forced"
With Dizzy you're saying he's had too wide of a POE, you're unhappy with how he's handled you (even though I think he's only been giving what he's getting), and you don't "realllly" think dizzy is a wolf.
So really your POE is me, right? If I said GTH Nanook is dizzy a wolf you're going to answer no.
The tr was in response to you taking your vote off me
This is the post I trSyn wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 12:13 am I think Invictius's and JJJ"s ISOs spew Nanook town.
Invictius laid the groundwork for us chopping Nanook at endgame. JJJ intentionally hedged his language surrounding Nanook, and with hindsight of JJJ's flip, it's clear that his casing was used to establish WIFOM.
wait wait waitNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:53 pmI reread it and changed my mindhollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:45 pmok, I've gone through your ISO and here's where you're first vocalizing suspicion on me:NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:43 pm Eh
Still kinda think it's hk over lc but
I'll think about it moreI know why I clear Syn but I don't understand what you mean here: "Tbh if dk went that hard d1 I'm kinda fine losing to it atp"NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:42 am I'm pretty sure it's between hk and dizzy
I'm looking at how plat treated everyone, I think he was more than likely actually trying to get lc dead, or it looked like that to me at least, and his dk read looks like a classic "I'm gonna come in and tr two townies arguing cause it'll look good for me later" move to me
Tbh if dk went that hard d1 I'm kinda fine losing to it atp
I initially thought plat and hk's back and forth looked pretty good for hk, but on reread its kinda meh and feels a bit forced. Hard to tell how much of that is just plat having an awkward "ah yes I'm being suspected this is good actually" and how much it's partners doing theater
Dizzy is kinda meh, I dont reallllly think he's mafia if im being honest, but I don't love the way he's handled my slot, and he's seemed like he's been trying to keep the poe fairly wide, so meh, he's fine on tone but thats not really enough atp
So my poe is dizzy and hk, lock it in
You think Invictius was legit pushing LC, that's why you clear LC. There's no possibility of a bus there for you?
You initially thought I looked good with my back and forth with Invictius but now you don't, why not? What feels "meh and forced"
With Dizzy you're saying he's had too wide of a POE, you're unhappy with how he's handled you (even though I think he's only been giving what he's getting), and you don't "realllly" think dizzy is a wolf.
So really your POE is me, right? If I said GTH Nanook is dizzy a wolf you're going to answer no.
His initial reaction where he's like "oh good something for me to respond to" or whatever feels forced/theatery
Unhappy with how he handled me in terms of his suspicion level on me, not about trading jabs or whatever, thats just us being in a game together
My poe is you or lc, and dizzy. Not both of you/lc, just one of you. I'm not sure which yet tbh.
If you asked me gth is dizzy scum id say fuck that I don't believe in gth.
definitely does not jibe withNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:53 pm My poe is you or lc, and dizzy. Not both of you/lc, just one of you. I'm not sure which yet tbh.
your poe is one of me or lc, plus dizzy, but just before this you were saying if you're being honest you really don't think it's dizzy. Like reading your first post here dizzy is always in your poe, and then one of me/lc is the other person in it.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:42 am Dizzy is kinda meh, I dont reallllly think he's mafia if im being honest, but I don't love the way he's handled my slot, and he's seemed like he's been trying to keep the poe fairly wide, so meh, he's fine on tone but thats not really enough atp
sorry, can you educate me on how many "L's" it takes to convey you don't really suspect dizzy?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 8:13 pm Yes thats correct, dizzy is in my poe either way, and one of you or lc is also in my poe, that is what I was trying to convey and what you have successfully restated. Good job.
Although you did switch don't really and really don't, bit of a different connotation, otherwise good job
Synhollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 9:12 pmsorry, can you educate me on how many "L's" it takes to convey you don't really suspect dizzy?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 8:13 pm Yes thats correct, dizzy is in my poe either way, and one of you or lc is also in my poe, that is what I was trying to convey and what you have successfully restated. Good job.
Although you did switch don't really and really don't, bit of a different connotation, otherwise good job
and how do you go from "my poe is dizzy and hk, lock it in" to including LC?
This is still weird as fuck tbh.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 11:20 pmI haven't even gotten to you yet goofball. Blame the alphabetNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 11:19 pmUsually when you do me in an interaction analysis the takeaway is always somewhere between "thats bad" and "deeply meh"JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 11:00 pmwhatNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 10:58 pm Unironically want to scumread Jay for not giving me meh interaction analysis
Yeah this is the thing that clears me if you're thinking critically about itDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 7:36 amThis is still weird as fuck tbh.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 11:20 pmI haven't even gotten to you yet goofball. Blame the alphabetNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 11:19 pmUsually when you do me in an interaction analysis the takeaway is always somewhere between "thats bad" and "deeply meh"JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 11:00 pmwhatNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 10:58 pm Unironically want to scumread Jay for not giving me meh interaction analysis
It's still giving me creepy feels. @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME This is the thing.
Me: It's not Nanook. Nanook is spewed town. It's either LC or Dizzy.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 7:02 am [VOTE: Syn] aubergine
Probably.
Analysis ongoing. Please hold.
I did my own consideration. I actually haven't read the last posts on this page and I don't know where you're at. Cool shade though.Syn wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 11:09 amMe: It's not Nanook. Nanook is spewed town. It's either LC or Dizzy.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 7:02 am [VOTE: Syn] aubergine
Probably.
Analysis ongoing. Please hold.
Dizzy: After some careful consideration, I've decided it is not Nanook, but instead Syn.
Okay.
I know what you mean about the "Oh good, and ISO!" But I think the way Invictius was like "Oh yes, please ISO me, I love those!" is more likely wolf to town, as in "I have nothing to hide!" At least I don't see how it's more w/w than w/t. So don't think it's Hollow tbh.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 4:53 pmI reread it and changed my mind
His initial reaction where he's like "oh good something for me to respond to" or whatever feels forced/theatery
Unhappy with how he handled me in terms of his suspicion level on me, not about trading jabs or whatever, thats just us being in a game together
My poe is you or lc, and dizzy. Not both of you/lc, just one of you. I'm not sure which yet tbh.
If you asked me gth is dizzy scum id say fuck that I don't believe in gth.
That would be the wrong conclusion.
What on earth do you town read about that post though? Nothing about Js ISO spews you town imo.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 5:09 pmThis is the post I trSyn wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 12:13 am I think Invictius's and JJJ"s ISOs spew Nanook town.
Invictius laid the groundwork for us chopping Nanook at endgame. JJJ intentionally hedged his language surrounding Nanook, and with hindsight of JJJ's flip, it's clear that his casing was used to establish WIFOM.