The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm**

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm Actually I'm thinking about my decision to place falcon at 2 and it's kinda dumb bc him being at one forces him to holster, claim swap. or be outted at mass

i should probs move it

I'm glad my game insight proved to be useful for you.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm @NotAnAxehole mafia have to be inside the seanzie vote right? who is it if not you?
I already gave my list of 7... On the Seanzie wagon potential candidates were: You, Dolby, Nookie

someoen said earlier that wagon order isn't actually preserved fyi

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm**

[VOTE: Sabie] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm @NotAnAxehole mafia have to be inside the seanzie vote right? who is it if not you?
I already gave my list of 7... On the Seanzie wagon potential candidates were: You, Dolby, Nookie

Well my vote was not a save attempt and it doesn't seem like Dolby's was either... so neither of these votes are inherently alignment indicative off the back of sabie's alignment. So why were we in your list?

and isn't Nook like virtually outed to you then?

and why is TSP town?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm**

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm @NotAnAxehole mafia have to be inside the seanzie vote right? who is it if not you?
I already gave my list of 7... On the Seanzie wagon potential candidates were: You, Dolby, Nookie
someoen said earlier that wagon order isn't actually preserved fyi

Yeah, the tech on this site was designed by a toddler.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:41 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm It's literally the only role I've read... And that includes my own.

lol ok snipe

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm @NotAnAxehole mafia have to be inside the seanzie vote right? who is it if not you?
I already gave my list of 7... On the Seanzie wagon potential candidates were: You, Dolby, Nookie
Well my vote was not a save attempt and it doesn't seem like Dolby's was either... so neither of these votes are inherently alignment indicative off the back of sabie's alignment. So why were we in your list?

and isn't Nook like virtually outed to you then?

and why is TSP town?

Because I don't view the act of saving Sabie scummy, I view the act of voting alignment indicative.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm @NotAnAxehole mafia have to be inside the seanzie vote right? who is it if not you?
I already gave my list of 7... On the Seanzie wagon potential candidates were: You, Dolby, Nookie
someoen said earlier that wagon order isn't actually preserved fyi
Yeah, the tech on this site was designed by a toddler.

it used to work but the site crashed one day and turned into a house full of trapdoors and it has been a slow rebuild since

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:41 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm It's literally the only role I've read... And that includes my own.
lol ok snipe

I didn't claim

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm @NotAnAxehole mafia have to be inside the seanzie vote right? who is it if not you?
I already gave my list of 7... On the Seanzie wagon potential candidates were: You, Dolby, Nookie
Well my vote was not a save attempt and it doesn't seem like Dolby's was either... so neither of these votes are inherently alignment indicative off the back of sabie's alignment. So why were we in your list?

and isn't Nook like virtually outed to you then?

and why is TSP town?
Because I don't view the act of saving Sabie scummy, I view the act of voting alignment indicative.

you don't view voting on a cfd that saved a mafia as likely to contain a mafia?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:43 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:35 pm ok sorry for not catching up
what's ur jack read

Town for some early day 2 nonsense

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:43 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm @NotAnAxehole mafia have to be inside the seanzie vote right? who is it if not you?
I already gave my list of 7... On the Seanzie wagon potential candidates were: You, Dolby, Nookie
Well my vote was not a save attempt and it doesn't seem like Dolby's was either... so neither of these votes are inherently alignment indicative off the back of sabie's alignment. So why were we in your list?

and isn't Nook like virtually outed to you then?

and why is TSP town?
Because I don't view the act of saving Sabie scummy, I view the act of voting alignment indicative.

what

Like I get counting you I'm pretty sure that 2/3 of the really late CFDers are probably town

but what

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:43 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:41 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm It's literally the only role I've read... And that includes my own.
lol ok snipe
I didn't claim

Well you did claim, but I mean no one noticed it so it doesn't count right?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:43 pm**

I'm ngl I'm tempted to vote NAA just to keep him from potentially shooting Guillo if town

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:44 pm**

it's not individually scummy but when you look at it as a pattern it is one that would almost always contain at least one wolf

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:44 pm**

I’m now with Mac on thinking Dolby is outed

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:44 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm @NotAnAxehole mafia have to be inside the seanzie vote right? who is it if not you?
I already gave my list of 7... On the Seanzie wagon potential candidates were: You, Dolby, Nookie
Well my vote was not a save attempt and it doesn't seem like Dolby's was either... so neither of these votes are inherently alignment indicative off the back of sabie's alignment. So why were we in your list?

and isn't Nook like virtually outed to you then?

and why is TSP town?
Because I don't view the act of saving Sabie scummy, I view the act of voting alignment indicative.
you don't view voting on a cfd that saved a mafia as likely to contain a mafia?

No, remember that semi-recent game where we CFD'd off of Syn because the wagon was too massive and too stagnant. The act of CFD in my view has no relation to alignment (though I'm sure in some cases - for some players it does).

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:44 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:35 pm ok sorry for not catching up
what's ur jack read
Town for some early day 2 nonsense

rly? you're townreading Jack for nonsense?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:45 pm**

All this mechanical talk (my page 32) makes me wanna actually read the setup lol

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:45 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm @NotAnAxehole mafia have to be inside the seanzie vote right? who is it if not you?
I already gave my list of 7... On the Seanzie wagon potential candidates were: You, Dolby, Nookie
Well my vote was not a save attempt and it doesn't seem like Dolby's was either... so neither of these votes are inherently alignment indicative off the back of sabie's alignment. So why were we in your list?

and isn't Nook like virtually outed to you then?

and why is TSP town?
Because I don't view the act of saving Sabie scummy, I view the act of voting alignment indicative.
you don't view voting on a cfd that saved a mafia as likely to contain a mafia?
No, remember that semi-recent game where we CFD'd off of Syn because the wagon was too massive and too stagnant. The act of CFD in my view has no relation to alignment (though I'm sure in some cases - for some players it does).

it's not like Sabie/Seanzie are v/v here though...

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:45 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:44 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:35 pm ok sorry for not catching up
what's ur jack read
Town for some early day 2 nonsense
rly? you're townreading Jack for nonsense?

Jealousy isn’t attractive tbh

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:45 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:44 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:37 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:35 pm ok sorry for not catching up
what's ur jack read
Town for some early day 2 nonsense
rly? you're townreading Jack for nonsense?

The only reason Im townreading you is nonsense and the claim that you’re more likely to read the setup than Jack as a wolf is not going to hold water

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:46 pm**

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:43 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:41 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm It's literally the only role I've read... And that includes my own.
lol ok snipe
I didn't claim
Well you did claim, but I mean no one noticed it so it doesn't count right?

Ok, I hard claim not sniper. I have no KP. lmao (actually, this would be true regardless if sniper or not given that I was roleblocked last night)

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:46 pm**

Also his nonsense was like really severe

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:47 pm**

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:45 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm @NotAnAxehole mafia have to be inside the seanzie vote right? who is it if not you?
I already gave my list of 7... On the Seanzie wagon potential candidates were: You, Dolby, Nookie
Well my vote was not a save attempt and it doesn't seem like Dolby's was either... so neither of these votes are inherently alignment indicative off the back of sabie's alignment. So why were we in your list?

and isn't Nook like virtually outed to you then?

and why is TSP town?
Because I don't view the act of saving Sabie scummy, I view the act of voting alignment indicative.
you don't view voting on a cfd that saved a mafia as likely to contain a mafia?
No, remember that semi-recent game where we CFD'd off of Syn because the wagon was too massive and too stagnant. The act of CFD in my view has no relation to alignment (though I'm sure in some cases - for some players it does).
it's not like Sabie/Seanzie are v/v here though...

Syn was w in the game I'm referencing where Mac lead a massive CFD onto town mainly town swapping onto the new wagon.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:47 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm @NotAnAxehole mafia have to be inside the seanzie vote right? who is it if not you?
I already gave my list of 7... On the Seanzie wagon potential candidates were: You, Dolby, Nookie
Well my vote was not a save attempt and it doesn't seem like Dolby's was either... so neither of these votes are inherently alignment indicative off the back of sabie's alignment. So why were we in your list?

and isn't Nook like virtually outed to you then?

and why is TSP town?
Because I don't view the act of saving Sabie scummy, I view the act of voting alignment indicative.
you don't view voting on a cfd that saved a mafia as likely to contain a mafia?
No, remember that semi-recent game where we CFD'd off of Syn because the wagon was too massive and too stagnant. The act of CFD in my view has no relation to alignment (though I'm sure in some cases - for some players it does).

yes but that's one example in a sea of countless examples to the contrary... fact is that when a mafia survives in a split or 1 vote there's almost always mafia usually several on the c/w...

and in this case there were 2 voters on seanzie prior to the mafia wagon influencing it... given I'm town and was voting there and it was middle of the night my time it seems likely that the seanzie wagon was picked as the save c/w specifically because of its viability and capacity to save sabie... which makes the three of you even more sketch.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:47 pm**

That was Creature's last game on site, Mac ran them out of town with that CFD. OH right, I was day-vigged, so I didn't even get to take part in the CFD festivities.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:48 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:32 pm mass claim order will prboably go by role

Hard claim Gordon Freeman

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:48 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:47 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:45 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:39 pm

I already gave my list of 7... On the Seanzie wagon potential candidates were: You, Dolby, Nookie
Well my vote was not a save attempt and it doesn't seem like Dolby's was either... so neither of these votes are inherently alignment indicative off the back of sabie's alignment. So why were we in your list?

and isn't Nook like virtually outed to you then?

and why is TSP town?
Because I don't view the act of saving Sabie scummy, I view the act of voting alignment indicative.
you don't view voting on a cfd that saved a mafia as likely to contain a mafia?
No, remember that semi-recent game where we CFD'd off of Syn because the wagon was too massive and too stagnant. The act of CFD in my view has no relation to alignment (though I'm sure in some cases - for some players it does).
it's not like Sabie/Seanzie are v/v here though...
Syn was w in the game I'm referencing where Mac lead a massive CFD onto town mainly town swapping onto the new wagon.

eh

i think the way that Nanook hopped off and his lack of progression on Seanzie is >rand w regardless of CFD placement anyway

I kinda think that you coming in just being like "hey switch to Seanzie" is kinda twtbaw

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:48 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:45 pm All this mechanical talk (my page 32) makes me wanna actually read the setup lol

hi beetlejuice

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:48 pm**

I thought we CFDed dya

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:48 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:48 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:45 pm All this mechanical talk (my page 32) makes me wanna actually read the setup lol
hi beetlejuice

Don't say beetlejuice, it'll trigger him.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:49 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:47 pm That was Creature's last game on site, Mac ran them out of town with that CFD. OH right, I was day-vigged, so I didn't even get to take part in the CFD festivities.

are you trying to make me feel bad?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:49 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:47 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm @NotAnAxehole mafia have to be inside the seanzie vote right? who is it if not you?
I already gave my list of 7... On the Seanzie wagon potential candidates were: You, Dolby, Nookie
Well my vote was not a save attempt and it doesn't seem like Dolby's was either... so neither of these votes are inherently alignment indicative off the back of sabie's alignment. So why were we in your list?

and isn't Nook like virtually outed to you then?

and why is TSP town?
Because I don't view the act of saving Sabie scummy, I view the act of voting alignment indicative.
you don't view voting on a cfd that saved a mafia as likely to contain a mafia?
No, remember that semi-recent game where we CFD'd off of Syn because the wagon was too massive and too stagnant. The act of CFD in my view has no relation to alignment (though I'm sure in some cases - for some players it does).
yes but that's one example in a sea of countless examples to the contrary... fact is that when a mafia survives in a split or 1 vote there's almost always mafia usually several on the c/w...

and in this case there were 2 voters on seanzie prior to the mafia wagon influencing it... given I'm town and was voting there and it was middle of the night my time it seems likely that the seanzie wagon was picked as the save c/w specifically because of its viability and capacity to save sabie... which makes the three of you even more sketch.

I mean, I'm not going to argue because I think there's a VERY strong case to be made for wolf!Nanook. It's not really the CFD motivating it though, it's more the fact that he never at any point considered Sabie. TSP and I were the only two to come off of Sabie.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:49 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:49 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:47 pm That was Creature's last game on site, Mac ran them out of town with that CFD. OH right, I was day-vigged, so I didn't even get to take part in the CFD festivities.
are you trying to make me feel bad?

I would never embark on such a futile venture...

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:50 pm**

Man, it would be hilarious though if he CFD'd onto Dolby or Nanook here though... If we're correct.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:50 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:47 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:38 pm @NotAnAxehole mafia have to be inside the seanzie vote right? who is it if not you?
I already gave my list of 7... On the Seanzie wagon potential candidates were: You, Dolby, Nookie
Well my vote was not a save attempt and it doesn't seem like Dolby's was either... so neither of these votes are inherently alignment indicative off the back of sabie's alignment. So why were we in your list?

and isn't Nook like virtually outed to you then?

and why is TSP town?
Because I don't view the act of saving Sabie scummy, I view the act of voting alignment indicative.
you don't view voting on a cfd that saved a mafia as likely to contain a mafia?
No, remember that semi-recent game where we CFD'd off of Syn because the wagon was too massive and too stagnant. The act of CFD in my view has no relation to alignment (though I'm sure in some cases - for some players it does).
yes but that's one example in a sea of countless examples to the contrary... fact is that when a mafia survives in a split or 1 vote there's almost always mafia usually several on the c/w...

and in this case there were 2 voters on seanzie prior to the mafia wagon influencing it... given I'm town and was voting there and it was middle of the night my time it seems likely that the seanzie wagon was picked as the save c/w specifically because of its viability and capacity to save sabie... which makes the three of you even more sketch.

I tied the Seanzie wagon 3/3 with a Gav wagon containing only blue names (Marmot (stayed), Nanook (flipped), Sabie (flipped)).

I personally think that Sabie being on that wagon makes Gav more likely town, and I kinda just think that the starting composition of the Seanzie wagon being 2/3 or 3/3 town is very very likely given we already have one mafia already on Gav (if Gav town).

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:51 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:48 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:45 pm All this mechanical talk (my page 32) makes me wanna actually read the setup lol
hi beetlejuice

Mention my name exactly when I get off work and I’ll reply every time, just like magic.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:51 pm**

I feel like the Falcon vote on Nanook is a weak attempt at distancing btw.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:51 pm**

Cause I don’t play mafia at work.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:51 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:47 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:39 pm

I already gave my list of 7... On the Seanzie wagon potential candidates were: You, Dolby, Nookie
Well my vote was not a save attempt and it doesn't seem like Dolby's was either... so neither of these votes are inherently alignment indicative off the back of sabie's alignment. So why were we in your list?

and isn't Nook like virtually outed to you then?

and why is TSP town?
Because I don't view the act of saving Sabie scummy, I view the act of voting alignment indicative.
you don't view voting on a cfd that saved a mafia as likely to contain a mafia?
No, remember that semi-recent game where we CFD'd off of Syn because the wagon was too massive and too stagnant. The act of CFD in my view has no relation to alignment (though I'm sure in some cases - for some players it does).
yes but that's one example in a sea of countless examples to the contrary... fact is that when a mafia survives in a split or 1 vote there's almost always mafia usually several on the c/w...

and in this case there were 2 voters on seanzie prior to the mafia wagon influencing it... given I'm town and was voting there and it was middle of the night my time it seems likely that the seanzie wagon was picked as the save c/w specifically because of its viability and capacity to save sabie... which makes the three of you even more sketch.
I mean, I'm not going to argue because I think there's a VERY strong case to be made for wolf!Nanook. It's not really the CFD motivating it though, it's more the fact that he never at any point considered Sabie. TSP and I were the only two to come off of Sabie.

if Dolby is mafia it usually does mean that it's less likely there is more than a single mafia in the cfd crew because of the mafia propensity to not vote together

but its you three and if anyone would bloc vote as an entire faction to save a teammate day 1 its literally you three

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:51 pm**

That would be immoral.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:52 pm**

You’re kinda interrupting my jokes, guy.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:53 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:51 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:47 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm

Well my vote was not a save attempt and it doesn't seem like Dolby's was either... so neither of these votes are inherently alignment indicative off the back of sabie's alignment. So why were we in your list?

and isn't Nook like virtually outed to you then?

and why is TSP town?
Because I don't view the act of saving Sabie scummy, I view the act of voting alignment indicative.
you don't view voting on a cfd that saved a mafia as likely to contain a mafia?
No, remember that semi-recent game where we CFD'd off of Syn because the wagon was too massive and too stagnant. The act of CFD in my view has no relation to alignment (though I'm sure in some cases - for some players it does).
yes but that's one example in a sea of countless examples to the contrary... fact is that when a mafia survives in a split or 1 vote there's almost always mafia usually several on the c/w...

and in this case there were 2 voters on seanzie prior to the mafia wagon influencing it... given I'm town and was voting there and it was middle of the night my time it seems likely that the seanzie wagon was picked as the save c/w specifically because of its viability and capacity to save sabie... which makes the three of you even more sketch.
I mean, I'm not going to argue because I think there's a VERY strong case to be made for wolf!Nanook. It's not really the CFD motivating it though, it's more the fact that he never at any point considered Sabie. TSP and I were the only two to come off of Sabie.
if Dolby is mafia it usually does mean that it's less likely there is more than a single mafia in the cfd crew because of the mafia propensity to not vote together

but its you three and if anyone would bloc vote as an entire faction to save a teammate day 1 its literally you three

This is 10/10 for accuracy... I never roll mafia with Nanook though

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:53 pm**

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:47 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:39 pm

I already gave my list of 7... On the Seanzie wagon potential candidates were: You, Dolby, Nookie
Well my vote was not a save attempt and it doesn't seem like Dolby's was either... so neither of these votes are inherently alignment indicative off the back of sabie's alignment. So why were we in your list?

and isn't Nook like virtually outed to you then?

and why is TSP town?
Because I don't view the act of saving Sabie scummy, I view the act of voting alignment indicative.
you don't view voting on a cfd that saved a mafia as likely to contain a mafia?
No, remember that semi-recent game where we CFD'd off of Syn because the wagon was too massive and too stagnant. The act of CFD in my view has no relation to alignment (though I'm sure in some cases - for some players it does).
yes but that's one example in a sea of countless examples to the contrary... fact is that when a mafia survives in a split or 1 vote there's almost always mafia usually several on the c/w...

and in this case there were 2 voters on seanzie prior to the mafia wagon influencing it... given I'm town and was voting there and it was middle of the night my time it seems likely that the seanzie wagon was picked as the save c/w specifically because of its viability and capacity to save sabie... which makes the three of you even more sketch.
I tied the Seanzie wagon 3/3 with a Gav wagon containing only blue names (Marmot (stayed), Nanook (flipped), Sabie (flipped)).

I personally think that Sabie being on that wagon makes Gav more likely town, and I kinda just think that the starting composition of the Seanzie wagon being 2/3 or 3/3 town is very very likely given we already have one mafia already on Gav (if Gav town).

who else was voting seanzie before you?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:53 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:50 pm Man, it would be hilarious though if he CFD'd onto Dolby or Nanook here though... If we're correct.

I would've been fine with not yeeting Sabie today if people recognized that Sabie still died without performing an action or kill under the plan

and if she didn't another mafia would be forced into a claim battle with one other person

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:53 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:51 pm I feel like the Falcon vote on Nanook is a weak attempt at distancing btw.

I mean, you're in my POE, so I'd expect nothing less

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:53 pm**

Why mafia split their votes will always be beyond my comprehension. Just vote together, kill town, win game.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:54 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:53 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:47 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:40 pm

Well my vote was not a save attempt and it doesn't seem like Dolby's was either... so neither of these votes are inherently alignment indicative off the back of sabie's alignment. So why were we in your list?

and isn't Nook like virtually outed to you then?

and why is TSP town?
Because I don't view the act of saving Sabie scummy, I view the act of voting alignment indicative.
you don't view voting on a cfd that saved a mafia as likely to contain a mafia?
No, remember that semi-recent game where we CFD'd off of Syn because the wagon was too massive and too stagnant. The act of CFD in my view has no relation to alignment (though I'm sure in some cases - for some players it does).
yes but that's one example in a sea of countless examples to the contrary... fact is that when a mafia survives in a split or 1 vote there's almost always mafia usually several on the c/w...

and in this case there were 2 voters on seanzie prior to the mafia wagon influencing it... given I'm town and was voting there and it was middle of the night my time it seems likely that the seanzie wagon was picked as the save c/w specifically because of its viability and capacity to save sabie... which makes the three of you even more sketch.
I tied the Seanzie wagon 3/3 with a Gav wagon containing only blue names (Marmot (stayed), Nanook (flipped), Sabie (flipped)).

I personally think that Sabie being on that wagon makes Gav more likely town, and I kinda just think that the starting composition of the Seanzie wagon being 2/3 or 3/3 town is very very likely given we already have one mafia already on Gav (if Gav town).
who else was voting seanzie before you?

you and someone else I think

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:55 pm**

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:53 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:47 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:42 pm

Because I don't view the act of saving Sabie scummy, I view the act of voting alignment indicative.
you don't view voting on a cfd that saved a mafia as likely to contain a mafia?
No, remember that semi-recent game where we CFD'd off of Syn because the wagon was too massive and too stagnant. The act of CFD in my view has no relation to alignment (though I'm sure in some cases - for some players it does).
yes but that's one example in a sea of countless examples to the contrary... fact is that when a mafia survives in a split or 1 vote there's almost always mafia usually several on the c/w...

and in this case there were 2 voters on seanzie prior to the mafia wagon influencing it... given I'm town and was voting there and it was middle of the night my time it seems likely that the seanzie wagon was picked as the save c/w specifically because of its viability and capacity to save sabie... which makes the three of you even more sketch.
I tied the Seanzie wagon 3/3 with a Gav wagon containing only blue names (Marmot (stayed), Nanook (flipped), Sabie (flipped)).

I personally think that Sabie being on that wagon makes Gav more likely town, and I kinda just think that the starting composition of the Seanzie wagon being 2/3 or 3/3 town is very very likely given we already have one mafia already on Gav (if Gav town).
who else was voting seanzie before you?
you and someone else I think

...

I am aware of that yes it's the someone else's identity I seek

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