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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:41 pm
by Lime Coke
2

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:41 pm
by MacDougall
probably like spf and one of dolby/gira

leaning dolby

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:42 pm
by Lime Coke
Honestly....

I gotta re-look at SPF.

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:43 pm
by alexa
yeah if LC was right on her right away that's pretty based

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:47 pm
by Gira
has spf rly not voted today

lol

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:50 pm
by Gira
still thought her posting earlier today was towny but would revisit given lack of ideas elsewhere

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:50 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I really do not want to kill falcon today

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:51 pm
by Lime Coke
TBH I've held my vote back today to avoid another quick hammer so there's that, but meh.

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:52 pm
by Lime Coke
[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:52 pm
by Lime Coke
I guess I'm fine with Dolby going over today.

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:53 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I think Dolby's flip very close to solves the game tbh

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:54 pm
by alexa
[VOTE: DOLBY] aubergine

ok fine

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:01 pm
by staypositivefriend
is the deadline actually tonight? how is that even possible? i was playing with the assumption that we had another 24 hours honestly

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:03 pm
by Gira
o

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:03 pm
by staypositivefriend
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:39 pm call it "absence of wolf or self pres agenda"
pushing on two villagers in the most stagnant way possible is an absence of wolf agenda? im not even saying that he needs to be a wolf but all of the reasons ive seen to townread him are honestly bad and give me the impression that people arent closely reading his posts

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:04 pm
by staypositivefriend
it's not like im GOOD at reading falcon, im historically really bad at it, i just think his scumhunting in this game comes off as being on auto-pilot regardless of his alignment (and i think him being on auto pilot is >rand W)

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:05 pm
by alexa
[VOTE: FALCON] aubergine

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:05 pm
by Lime Coke
Yeah I don't understand how he's town or why people want him to remain alive but I guess I'll listen.

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
by alexa
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:04 pm it's not like im GOOD at reading falcon, im historically really bad at it, i just think his scumhunting in this game comes off as being on auto-pilot regardless of his alignment (and i think him being on auto pilot is >rand W)
can you talk about the first part more

if you're historically bad at it, why are you still confident?

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
by Lime Coke
Welp that timing, lmao.

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
by staypositivefriend
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:41 pm probably like spf and one of dolby/gira

leaning dolby
Lime Coke wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:42 pm Honestly....

I gotta re-look at SPF.
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:43 pm yeah if LC was right on her right away that's pretty based
Gira wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:50 pm still thought her posting earlier today was towny but would revisit given lack of ideas elsewhere
i dont understand why y'all are paranoid about me in the first place but i think this game probably feels so stagnant and boring because the wolves are AWOL and this is an easy solve, so it's probably not worth getting worked up over

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
by alexa
[VOTE: dolby] aubergine

im worried this is like pocketing me to an extreme though

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
by staypositivefriend
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:04 pm it's not like im GOOD at reading falcon, im historically really bad at it, i just think his scumhunting in this game comes off as being on auto-pilot regardless of his alignment (and i think him being on auto pilot is >rand W)
can you talk about the first part more

if you're historically bad at it, why are you still confident?
did i say that im confident?

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:07 pm
by Lime Coke
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm [VOTE: dolby] aubergine

im worried this is like pocketing me to an extreme though
Dolby pocketing you in his catchup?

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:07 pm
by staypositivefriend
sorry that was sassy lol, i'm not confident about falcon's alignment and it is precisely because i tend to find his playstyle wolfy regardless of his alignment and have incorrectly pushed on him multiple times. i just think his play in this game, in a vacuum, is wolfy, which is why ive been confused that people are townreading him for super questionable/vague reasons

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:08 pm
by alexa
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:04 pm it's not like im GOOD at reading falcon, im historically really bad at it, i just think his scumhunting in this game comes off as being on auto-pilot regardless of his alignment (and i think him being on auto pilot is >rand W)
can you talk about the first part more

if you're historically bad at it, why are you still confident?
did i say that im confident?
you said he's >rand W
why do you still think he's >rand W when you're aware you're bad at it?

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:08 pm
by alexa
Lime Coke wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:07 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm [VOTE: dolby] aubergine

im worried this is like pocketing me to an extreme though
Dolby pocketing you in his catchup?
idk his catchup but he had a lot of posts on me being never mafia that i thought i townread

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:09 pm
by staypositivefriend
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:08 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:04 pm it's not like im GOOD at reading falcon, im historically really bad at it, i just think his scumhunting in this game comes off as being on auto-pilot regardless of his alignment (and i think him being on auto pilot is >rand W)
can you talk about the first part more

if you're historically bad at it, why are you still confident?
did i say that im confident?
you said he's >rand W
why do you still think he's >rand W when you're aware you're bad at it?
because i think his posts are wolfy? i'm not going to refrain from outing reads on people in games just because im bad at reading them - that's a surefire way to never improve

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:10 pm
by alexa
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:09 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:08 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:04 pm it's not like im GOOD at reading falcon, im historically really bad at it, i just think his scumhunting in this game comes off as being on auto-pilot regardless of his alignment (and i think him being on auto pilot is >rand W)
can you talk about the first part more

if you're historically bad at it, why are you still confident?
did i say that im confident?
you said he's >rand W
why do you still think he's >rand W when you're aware you're bad at it?
because i think his posts are wolfy? i'm not going to refrain from outing reads on people in games just because im bad at reading them - that's a surefire way to never improve
ok fine it's more the like
statement you made out of it
like "i've been bad at reading him but LETS GET HIM GUYS" (as an eod thing), like you wolfreading him in itself is nothing

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:11 pm
by staypositivefriend
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:10 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:09 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:08 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:04 pm it's not like im GOOD at reading falcon, im historically really bad at it, i just think his scumhunting in this game comes off as being on auto-pilot regardless of his alignment (and i think him being on auto pilot is >rand W)
can you talk about the first part more

if you're historically bad at it, why are you still confident?
did i say that im confident?
you said he's >rand W
why do you still think he's >rand W when you're aware you're bad at it?
because i think his posts are wolfy? i'm not going to refrain from outing reads on people in games just because im bad at reading them - that's a surefire way to never improve
ok fine it's more the like
statement you made out of it
like "i've been bad at reading him but LETS GET HIM GUYS" (as an eod thing), like you wolfreading him in itself is nothing
but that's not really what i said - i actually think the dolby is the more optimal chop today. i just thought mac's reasoning to townread him was bad

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:12 pm
by staypositivefriend
if i was the sole determiner of the chop right now, i probably would kill falcon, but im not at a level of confidence where i feel comfortable strongarming the rest of the thread into chopping him. that's why im engaging w/the people who are townreading him to try to get more clarity on his alignment/figure him out

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:13 pm
by Lime Coke
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:12 pm if i was the sole determiner of the chop right now, i probably would kill falcon, but im not at a level of confidence where i feel comfortable strongarming the rest of the thread into chopping him. that's why im engaging w/the people who are townreading him to try to get more clarity on his alignment/figure him out
I'm kind of in this viewpoint right now because people aren't giving specific reasoning.

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:13 pm
by alexa
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:11 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:10 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:09 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:08 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:04 pm it's not like im GOOD at reading falcon, im historically really bad at it, i just think his scumhunting in this game comes off as being on auto-pilot regardless of his alignment (and i think him being on auto pilot is >rand W)
can you talk about the first part more

if you're historically bad at it, why are you still confident?
did i say that im confident?
you said he's >rand W
why do you still think he's >rand W when you're aware you're bad at it?
because i think his posts are wolfy? i'm not going to refrain from outing reads on people in games just because im bad at reading them - that's a surefire way to never improve
ok fine it's more the like
statement you made out of it
like "i've been bad at reading him but LETS GET HIM GUYS" (as an eod thing), like you wolfreading him in itself is nothing
but that's not really what i said - i actually think the dolby is the more optimal chop today. i just thought mac's reasoning to townread him was bad
where did you say this (re: dolby over falcon)?

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:13 pm
by MacDougall
[VOTE: spf] aubergine

I don't want her alive deeper into the game

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm
by staypositivefriend
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:13 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:11 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:10 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:09 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:08 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm

can you talk about the first part more

if you're historically bad at it, why are you still confident?
did i say that im confident?
you said he's >rand W
why do you still think he's >rand W when you're aware you're bad at it?
because i think his posts are wolfy? i'm not going to refrain from outing reads on people in games just because im bad at reading them - that's a surefire way to never improve
ok fine it's more the like
statement you made out of it
like "i've been bad at reading him but LETS GET HIM GUYS" (as an eod thing), like you wolfreading him in itself is nothing
but that's not really what i said - i actually think the dolby is the more optimal chop today. i just thought mac's reasoning to townread him was bad
where did you say this (re: dolby over falcon)?
i haven't, but i've been scumreading dolby since early into d2 and i think that he's most likely a frozen wolf. i unironically think that the solve might be as easy as dolby/falcon

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm
by staypositivefriend
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:13 pm [VOTE: spf] aubergine

I don't want her alive deeper into the game
do you have any reasons to scumread me or are you just scared of me being a deepwolf

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm
by MacDougall
Mac's reasoning to townread falcon being bad is just wolf agenda. Like... yes my reasoning sucks but point it out, ignoring it and then pushing on Falcon just outs you and Dolby as the wolves.

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:15 pm
by MacDougall
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:13 pm [VOTE: spf] aubergine

I don't want her alive deeper into the game
do you have any reasons to scumread me or are you just scared of me being a deepwolf
I think the poe is solidly 3 slots right now.

Gira and Dolby are different.

You are the only solo hard poe.

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:15 pm
by Lime Coke
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm Mac's reasoning to townread falcon being bad is just wolf agenda. Like... yes my reasoning sucks but point it out, ignoring it and then pushing on Falcon just outs you and Dolby as the wolves.
If your reasoning sucks why would someone sheep it?

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:15 pm
by staypositivefriend
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm Mac's reasoning to townread falcon being bad is just wolf agenda. Like... yes my reasoning sucks but point it out, ignoring it and then pushing on Falcon just outs you and Dolby as the wolves.
so fmpov as town, am i supposed to uncritically sheep your townread on falcon even though the reasoning is obviously incorrect?

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:16 pm
by Gira
i still think dolby is the best vote but i wanna go watch a movie with friends so probably afk for the rest of theday

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:16 pm
by staypositivefriend
can you kindly let me know which pushes are Mac Approved™ and which pushes will make you wolfread me more? gotta make sure i toe the line

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:17 pm
by staypositivefriend
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:15 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:13 pm [VOTE: spf] aubergine

I don't want her alive deeper into the game
do you have any reasons to scumread me or are you just scared of me being a deepwolf
I think the poe is solidly 3 slots right now.

Gira and Dolby are different.

You are the only solo hard poe.
cool, youre misreading someone and you should keep reading my posts until you figure out that im town

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:19 pm
by MacDougall
Lime Coke wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm Mac's reasoning to townread falcon being bad is just wolf agenda. Like... yes my reasoning sucks but point it out, ignoring it and then pushing on Falcon just outs you and Dolby as the wolves.
If your reasoning sucks why would someone sheep it?
cuz I'm mac, nobody has strong reads and it's just a townread anyway in a world where you can easily sheep it and vote somewhere else

not doing so is just pro wolf

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:19 pm
by MacDougall
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm Mac's reasoning to townread falcon being bad is just wolf agenda. Like... yes my reasoning sucks but point it out, ignoring it and then pushing on Falcon just outs you and Dolby as the wolves.
so fmpov as town, am i supposed to uncritically sheep your townread on falcon even though the reasoning is obviously incorrect?
what is incorrect about the reasoning?

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:19 pm
by MacDougall
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:16 pm can you kindly let me know which pushes are Mac Approved™ and which pushes will make you wolfread me more? gotta make sure i toe the line
yeah you can vote Dolby

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:19 pm
by staypositivefriend
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:19 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm Mac's reasoning to townread falcon being bad is just wolf agenda. Like... yes my reasoning sucks but point it out, ignoring it and then pushing on Falcon just outs you and Dolby as the wolves.
If your reasoning sucks why would someone sheep it?
cuz I'm mac, nobody has strong reads and it's just a townread anyway in a world where you can easily sheep it and vote somewhere else

not doing so is just pro wolf
please reference 3 posts ago where i said that i think dolby is the optimal chop today

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:19 pm
by MacDougall
or Gira

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:20 pm
by MacDougall
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:19 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm Mac's reasoning to townread falcon being bad is just wolf agenda. Like... yes my reasoning sucks but point it out, ignoring it and then pushing on Falcon just outs you and Dolby as the wolves.
so fmpov as town, am i supposed to uncritically sheep your townread on falcon even though the reasoning is obviously incorrect?
what is incorrect about the reasoning?

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:20 pm
by staypositivefriend
the fact that you townread falcon is something that im naturally going to take into consideration, but im not going to reverse my game long scumread on the falcon slot because you said he "lacks a wolf agenda" when he has been explicitly pushing on two villagers for the entire game