[END] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

#1751

S~V~S wrote:
juliets wrote:Wow a lot of things sure do happen here at night in this game.

Illy welcome back, I wasn't here when you left I subbed in for someone whose name started with Ben...And I also hope you are good cause i voted for you.

Kate, Kate, Kate. I had good feelings about you though I can never know for sure or at least until the game ends. :cryingsmilieplease:

Trice, I don't know what to think about your death. RIPIYWG. It almost seemed like Illy's rezz took your life. Dunno though.

Boomslang I don't know whether its good or bad you dodged death

Welcome back accidentally frozen rabbit.
Why do you think Illys rezz took Trices life, but not Kates?

The pairity of the Illy/Trice portion of the posts. and the fact that Herman was the one that killed Kate. If I had to guess.

#1752

SVS you seem to be awfully attack-y about Kate's death. It seems pretty clear how she died to me? Why attack anyone who seems to not be talking it, like you are? It's weird.

#1753

RIPIYWG Kate and Trice. Kate I'm pretty sure was civvie and Trice I'm not entirely sure about, but I feel a bit unsure about him. I still think you're the most handsome one of them all though bby.

#1754

S~V~S wrote:
juliets wrote:Wow a lot of things sure do happen here at night in this game.

Illy welcome back, I wasn't here when you left I subbed in for someone whose name started with Ben...And I also hope you are good cause i voted for you.

Kate, Kate, Kate. I had good feelings about you though I can never know for sure or at least until the game ends. :cryingsmilieplease:

Trice, I don't know what to think about your death. RIPIYWG. It almost seemed like Illy's rezz took your life. Dunno though.

Boomslang I don't know whether its good or bad you dodged death

Welcome back accidentally frozen rabbit.
Why do you think Illys rezz took Trices life, but not Kates?

Because it said the dead chose trice. And the living chose illy.

I'm catching up on my phone so lol how even to multiquote and I wanted to say this!

#1755

Lol done catching up. Thought there was more!!

#1756

Whew, that was... unexpected. Trice I suspected, RIPIYWG Kate, and I hope we made the right choice with Illyria. Someone on the Ziltoid team obviously thinks I'm onto something or is trying to defend him/herself from accusations, so I'm going to recheck responses to my responses.

#1757

#1758

timmer wrote:SVS you seem to be awfully attack-y about Kate's death. It seems pretty clear how she died to me? Why attack anyone who seems to not be talking it, like you are? It's weird.

I missed the second post (plus friends were over and I had had a few drinks), and I am like 99% positive she was a civ and it upsets me that she is dead. Not just for RL reasons, like the game is more fun with her in it, but also because she was a major discussion leader, and for the most part we saw things the same way, and she is much more articulate than I.

And I freak at the drop of a hat, you know that. The last thing that whole episode was was weird, it was pretty typical.

And Hi Rabbit

#1759

S~V~S wrote:
juliets wrote:Wow a lot of things sure do happen here at night in this game.

Illy welcome back, I wasn't here when you left I subbed in for someone whose name started with Ben...And I also hope you are good cause i voted for you.

Kate, Kate, Kate. I had good feelings about you though I can never know for sure or at least until the game ends. :cryingsmilieplease:

Trice, I don't know what to think about your death. RIPIYWG. It almost seemed like Illy's rezz took your life. Dunno though.

Boomslang I don't know whether its good or bad you dodged death

Welcome back accidentally frozen rabbit.
Why do you think Illys rezz took Trices life, but not Kates?

Because of the way it's worded: " No sooner than Illyria's miraculous return to life did triceratopzeuhl drop to the floor, instantly dead, the life literally sucked out of him." I'm not saying anything about affiliation, just that it looks like that's what happened. Also, I could be wrong.

#1760

I know JC, I said a few posts up that i misread, missed a post and was drunk right above you.

#1761

Maybe all the dead players voted to kill Trice like we all voted to rezz Illy? That was my immediate reaction. Maybe Illy knows why Trice got killed>?

#1762

That does make sense, it says the dead took him like the living took her.

#1763

Yeah, that's what I thought it meant.

#1764

Sorry guys....incredibly busy lately. Voting epig BC of revival choice of chaindeath. Yes, I know I voted him too.

#1765

So Droopy, no comment on your chaindeath vote?

#1766

Got a replacement computer for the time being!

#1767

Droopy is weird, yo.

#1768

BWT also voted for chaindeath, right? And FH said she was going to before the secrets were revealed.

#1769

S~V~S wrote:BWT also voted for chaindeath, right? And FH said she was going to before the secrets were revealed.

How did FH deal with Bea's lynch?

#1770

Dom wrote:
S~V~S wrote:BWT also voted for chaindeath, right? And FH said she was going to before the secrets were revealed.
How did FH deal with Bea's lynch?

As far as I can tell, she was one of the last votes for Bea.

A bit after 2 PM the day of the lynch:

Flyin' High wrote:I read back through DF's and Devin's posts and nothing really stands out as something they might have said to warrant getting on the baddies radars this early. DF pretty much focused on Leech's self-vote and Devin discussed the polls and compared them to his experience in Avant 1.

So yeah, I'm still clueless on who to look at today.

Her next post a bit after 6:

Flyin' High wrote:I think the case Kate brought up about bea interested me the most.

So I'm going to *vote for bea*

BWT lamented his missing the poll at 7:03, so it ended less than an hour after FH voted.

In a search of her posts, i found that the post where she vote for Bea was the first post FH made mentioning Bea.

#1771

DharmaHelper wrote:Droopy is weird, yo.

What are you thinking for this lynch?

#1772

reywaS wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Droopy is weird, yo.
What are you thinking for this lynch?

Dunno, LT gassed me out, lol. I'd be willing to sit back a bit and listen to everyone else.

#1773

#1774

I was hoping for a Trice lynch today... :/

#1775

I'd like to put BWT under the microscope...he's seemed off to me this entire game. Every little misstep of his gets overlooked.

#1776

reywaS wrote:I'd like to put BWT under the microscope...he's seemed off to me this entire game. Every little misstep of his gets overlooked.

I would like to hear about this...

Without Trice, I'm left with FH, who was my second in line for suspicion, but I'm open to other ideas.

#1777

I was going to read back on some people tonight, but I got carried away with something else. I'll do it tomorrow. I can see and understand the suspicion on FH, but I want to read BWT and the people that voted to rezz chaindeath. :nod:

#1778

#1779

reywaS wrote:Maybe all the dead players voted to kill Trice like we all voted to rezz Illy? That was my immediate reaction. Maybe Illy knows why Trice got killed>?

All I know is what I was told. I was up for a rez and I had to put in a name for someone that would die. I chose Trice, he was the biggest suspish I had as I was racing through a zillion posts. What I dont know is if any other deadie also had to put a name in? The way MP worded it to me I could have put the name in before I knew I was being rezzed, if I had been keeping up I probably would have put one in as soon as I got it.

I did the best I could, and I still feel like it was a good call based on what I have read.

I am intrigued that the Truth was silenced, since it looked like s/he was linked to Trice. I have totally silenced my own players when I was evil to keep them from getting lynched for a day while we figured out strategy and tried to find someone else to get everyone to look at instead.

Rabbit, what say you today?? Your impressions are usually at the very least amusing, and normally thought provoking.

I would like to look at the people who were voting for Chaindeath as well. Most said it was because s/he amused them (MP can we get a Gender list please?) if I remember correctly.

#1780

I believe he has a gender list on the first page if I recall correctly...

#1781

S~V~S wrote:BWT also voted for chaindeath, right? And FH said she was going to before the secrets were revealed.

If you mean for the rezz, then no, I voted for DFaraday. I don't think I've ever voted for chaindeath at any point this game actually.

#1782

I am not a Resident.

First I was suspicious because I didn't reveal Ziltoid secrets so I was being accused of being on Ziltoid's Atmy. Now I'm suspicious for my first quick post after LT's death saying maybe I'd vote for Chaindeath so now I'm being accused of being a Resident.

Make up your minds people! If you think I'm bad, at least be consistent in which team you're accusing me of being on.

I like that SVS has immediately called me out for thinking of possibly voting for chaindeath but isn't riding the butts of those who actually did vote for chaindeath and for sketchy reasons (Epignosis stands out to me on this one followed by Mr. Droopy except that Mr. Droopy is pretty much confirmed civvie...so maybe he really just wasn't paying attention...not sure on that).

At SVS--there is a voting order in this thread--you can look at that to see exactly when I voted and how many votes bea versus rabbit had rather than trying to make it look like my vote for bea was a "throw a teammate under the bus" vote.

Day 2 Voting Order:
1. axxon (LoRab) 1
2. Epignosis (The Truth) 1
3. triceratops (SVS) 1
4. The Truth (SVS) 2
5. Vompatti (rabbit) 1
6. DH (rabbit) 2
7. jokreher (bea) 1
8. Aces (rabbit) 3
9. Kate (bea) 2
10. LT (bea) 3
11. SVS (bea) 4
12. LoRab (triceratops) 1
13. Illyria (chaindeath) 1
14. chaindeath (rabbit) 4
15. Mr. Droopy (rabbit) 5
16. insertnamehere (bea) 5
17. Flyin' High (bea) 6
18. DisgruntledPorcupine (bea) 7
19. Captain Bunny Killer (rabbit) 6
21. Boomslang (bea) 8
20. rabbit (bea) 9
Didn't vote: bea, Benthayer, birdwithteeth, boatsboatsboats, reywaS, and Roxy

As you can see, I gave bea her 6th vote putting her ahead of rabbit in votes. And when I voted 10 players were yet to vote. So no, I wasn't throwing a teammate under the bus on Day 2 with my vote. You are still twisting facts about me in this game and I can't figure out why you'd do that as a civvie. That is baddie behavior to me.

And to help those that didn't keep a record of the rezz poll.

Night 5 Rezz Poll:
1. trice (chaindeath) 1
2. Epignosis (chaindeath) 2
3. Boomslang (DF) 1
4. BWT (DF) 2
5. Dom (DF) 3
6. Kate (Illyria) 1
7. Boats (Devin) 1
8. Mr. Droopy (chaindeath) 3
9. DH (Illyria) 2
10. FH (Illyria) 3
11. Juliet (Illyria) 4
12. DP (Illyria) 5
13. Aces (Illyria) 6
14. INH (Illyria) 7
15. rey (Illyria) 8
16. SVS (Illyria) 9
17. Timmer (DF) 4
Didn't vote: jokreher, rabbit (still frozen), The Truth

#1783

birdwithteeth11 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:BWT also voted for chaindeath, right? And FH said she was going to before the secrets were revealed.
If you mean for the rezz, then no, I voted for DFaraday. I don't think I've ever voted for chaindeath at any point this game actually.

Sorry about that~ the poll came down so fast

And FH, the last, "well, um, maybe gonna vote for chaindeath" did it for me, and the fact that you did not mention bea at all until you voted with her~ and we all have dropped early votes on teammates for cred, and I don;t see 6th out of nine as early, especially when the 9th vote was the guy saving himself. And I am a civvie, you keep implying I must have some reason other than that I think you are bad for not letting go of this, but I don't. My agenda is getting rid of baddies. Sadly, i believe you to be one.
I think you are bad. I wanted to vote for you last time, but I was worried about the votes piling up on DH.

Posting all kinds of analyses and using them to point out what you would or would not do is supposition and WIFOM. I have pretty much seen everything you are saying you would not, or did not do, based on interpretative data, done in a game.

*Votes Flyin High

#1784

ebwop, voted "for her" not with her~

#1785

You completely ignored that yesterday you thought I was on Ziltoid's Army and today you think I'm a Resident. Not to mention you say 6th out of 9 but ignored the fact that I put bea ahead of rabbit and that there were 10 more voters to vote after me! If I was a teammate of bea's and wanted to save her I a) would have voted for rabbit and b) would have waited to vote until later in the the phase to try to save her. But I am not now nor ever was a teammate of bea's or anyone but the civvies.

I am not bad and you are very wrong and are incredibly tunnel-visioned here.

People who mentioned possibly voting for chaindeath other than me (before Kate revealed the blue eyeball secret):
Trice (went so far as to vote chaindeath): viewtopic.php?p=3938#p3938
Epignosis (also voted chaindeath): viewtopic.php?p=3962#p3962
BWT: viewtopic.php?p=3963#p3963
Dom: viewtopic.php?p=3979#p3979
Mr. Droopy (vote chaindeath after Kate revealed the blue eyeball secret): viewtopic.php?p=4060#p4060

So again I ask, why the intense focus on just me for suggesting I might vote for chaindeath? I'm not suggesting all of those players I just listed are residents--just trying to prove a point.

I personally still think we can find a resident if we vote for Timmer so I will likely vote his way again today. I'm also wondering about epignosis' vote for chaindeath--maybe it really was a choice from a roll of a die, but I'd think that something like rezzing a dead player deserves a lot more thought put into it than randomizing with a die roll.

I still think there's a chance that Trice was part of Ziltoid's Army and that The Truth is his teammate. The Truth didn't respond to my case about Trice and him yesterday and now he's silenced today. I don't like voting for silenced players since they don't have a chance to properly defend themselves.

#1786

I think you are chaindeaths teammate. But I knew in my heart you were bad before the latest role reveal. Your intention to vote for chaindeath just kinda sealed the deal for me.

I am not as good at you as putting players into slots and figuring out who is who. I go based on demeanor, and how you say things as much as what you say. There are all kinds of logical things you can say based on information, but the fact is that they are ALL supposition, nothing more.

You would not do this, You would do that, you did this, it proves nothing. I ignored what you posted in my replies becasue i don't believe it to be true. And now you are flailing and trying to spread a wide arc of mud on anyone but yourself.

#1787

Hey zombies, Sgt. Pepper is in sign ups if you were looking to play.

#1788

S~V~S wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:BWT also voted for chaindeath, right? And FH said she was going to before the secrets were revealed.
If you mean for the rezz, then no, I voted for DFaraday. I don't think I've ever voted for chaindeath at any point this game actually.
Sorry about that~ the poll came down so fast

And FH, the last, "well, um, maybe gonna vote for chaindeath" did it for me, and the fact that you did not mention bea at all until you voted with her~ and we all have dropped early votes on teammates for cred, and I don;t see 6th out of nine as early, especially when the 9th vote was the guy saving himself. And I am a civvie, you keep implying I must have some reason other than that I think you are bad for not letting go of this, but I don't. My agenda is getting rid of baddies. Sadly, i believe you to be one.
I think you are bad. I wanted to vote for you last time, but I was worried about the votes piling up on DH.

Posting all kinds of analyses and using them to point out what you would or would not do is supposition and WIFOM. I have pretty much seen everything you are saying you would not, or did not do, based on interpretative data, done in a game.

*Votes Flyin High

That's pretty much why I'm considering a vote for FH today. I was willing to forgive her for the "green vs. purple" book debate, but I said I would keep an eye on her. After considering a vote for chaindeath though, I'm really starting to think there's a strong possibility that she is a baddie.

However, I'm going to go read up on the other people who said they were considering votes for chaindeath or actually did vote for him (outside of myself of course), and see if I can catch anything in there that would make me reconsider.

#1789

Um, BWT--you were one of those people who said they were considering voting for chaindeath.

It was NOT an intention to vote for chaindeath! It was a passing thought right before I headed to bed having quickly seen the list of names on the poll. And SVS--if sticking with a suspicion I've had for days is "spreading a wide arc of mud on anyone but myself" then sure, that's what I'm doing. I specifically stated I wasn't casting suspicion on those people I listed in my previous post--it was to prove a point that you have tunnel vision. But yes, thanks once again for twisting my words. Most excellent.

I think Timmer is a Resident due the case I built against CBK/Timmer here viewtopic.php?p=3426#p3426). If I'm right about Timmer, Epignosis might be a good place to look next due to his "random" vote for chaindeath in the rezz poll and the timing of his vote for DH on Day 5 (gave a 6th vote to DH when Timmer had 5). The Epignosis part I don't feel as strongly about as Timmer--it's more of a where to look next if Timmer does turn out to be a Resident.

I have friends coming over shortly to play games and watch the Falcons v. 49ers game. So I won't be back until early evening. Hopefully I can help address other people's suspicions against me. I am not the baddie that SVS is portraying me as.

#1790

I know I was considering voting for him. But I changed my mind when I saw the secrets revealed that showed chaindeath almost certainly had to be a Resident.

Yeah, I forgot that Timmer was another good place to look. Of course, I could also see it that both of you are on different baddie teams, so the question remaining for me is which of you appears to be the most bad in my eyes. Going to re-read your case against him.

I leave for work in about half an hour, so I will have to post and vote at work sometime tonight.

#1791

I am not 'portraying' you to be anything, FH, I think your actions are.

Have fun, I have a playoff pool that I am actually in the top three, so I am going to be doing some Football watching too

#1792

Vote: FH

#1793

I'm busy with football and work today so I'm voting now. while the case against fh isnt perfect its tge best one I can see today. voting fh

#1794

I think the stuff brought up on FH is strong enough for me to vote. So I'll go for it.

#1795

Can someone point me toward where we figured out Mr Droopy is a confirmed civ, not that I dont trust ya'll.. Its just.... you know... I dont trust ya'll.

I am down with the FH vote today, she has been squirrely in my read too but SVS but it far more elegantly than I could.

And since I keep forgetting that i am playing this game, I will vote now.

*votes FH*

I am also watching football, this is my Superbowl today! GO NINERS!

#1796

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=62&p=2585#p2585

#1797

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:viewtopic.php?f=2&t=62&p=2585#p2585

Ahahhaha! Oh Odin I am a doof. Thanks DP.

#1798

I still have my suspicion of CBK/Timmer. Some of the things about FH ping me but I'm going to have to think about which of these two deserves my vote more than the other.

#1799

Sorry for the double post but i just thought of something. In his other games did MP ever rezz someone as a baddie recruit?

#1800

Sorry I've been a little absent guys. I'm packing for school (I leave to go back tomorrow).

I'm still leaning with FH. My suspicon of her has not dwindled since a few days ago.

Who killed Boomslang?