MAD MAX: GAME OVER

[motel room]

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DOM
QUIN

scum
town

[Tangrowth]

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DOM
QUIN

Town
Town

[MacDougall]

GTH GO

DOM
QUIN

Dom = Bad
Quin = Good

[JaggedJimmyJay]

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SLOONEI
GLORFINDEL

[JaggedJimmyJay]

GTH GO

SLOONEI
GLORFINDEL

town

town

[Tangrowth]

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SLOONEI
GLORFINDEL

Town
Mafia

[a2thezebra]

GTH GO

SLOONEI
GLORFINDEL

TOWN
TOWN

[MacDougall]

GTH GO

SLOONEI
GLORFINDEL

Sloonei = Good
Glorfindel = Bad

[motel room]

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SLOONEI
GLORFINDEL

town
town

[JaggedJimmyJay]

GTH GO

LORAB
SPRITYO

[JaggedJimmyJay]

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LORAB
SPRITYO

town

mafia

[a2thezebra]

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LORAB
SPRITYO

TOWN
MAFIA

[Tangrowth]

GTH GO

LORAB
SPRITYO

Town
Mafia

[motel room]

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LORAB
SPRITYO

town
scum

[MacDougall]

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LORAB
SPRITYO

Good
Bad

[JaggedJimmyJay]

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MOTEL ROOM
INDIGLO

[MacDougall]

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MOTEL ROOM
INDIGLO

good
good

[JaggedJimmyJay]

GTH GO

MOTEL ROOM
INDIGLO

town

mafia

[a2thezebra]

GTH GO

MOTEL ROOM
INDIGLO

MAFIA
TOWN

[Tangrowth]

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MOTEL ROOM
INDIGLO

Mafia
Town

[motel room]

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MOTEL ROOM
INDIGLO

easy rider
town

[JaggedJimmyJay]

GTH GO

JAGGEDJIMMYJAY
MACDOUGALL

[Tangrowth]

GTH GO

JAGGEDJIMMYJAY
MACDOUGALL

Town
Town

[MacDougall]

GTH GO

JAGGEDJIMMYJAY
MACDOUGALL

Town

[JaggedJimmyJay]

GTH GO

JAGGEDJIMMYJAY
MACDOUGALL

egg bloke, top good

town

[a2thezebra]

GTH GO

JAGGEDJIMMYJAY
MACDOUGALL

TOWN
MAFIA

[motel room]

GTH GO

JAGGEDJIMMYJAY
MACDOUGALL

town
town

[MacDougall]

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JAGGEDJIMMYJAY
MACDOUGALL

TOWN
MAFIA

[JaggedJimmyJay]

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MOVINGPICTURES07
DRWILGY

[JaggedJimmyJay]

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MOVINGPICTURES07
DRWILGY

town

mafia

[Tangrowth]

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MOVINGPICTURES07
DRWILGY

top bloke, good egg
Mafia

[MacDougall]

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MOVINGPICTURES07
DRWILGY

Town
Town

[motel room]

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MOVINGPICTURES07
DRWILGY

town
town

[a2thezebra]

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MOVINGPICTURES07
DRWILGY

MAFIA
MAFIA

[JaggedJimmyJay]

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A2THEZEBRA
INSERTNAMEHERE

[JaggedJimmyJay]

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A2THEZEBRA
INSERTNAMEHERE

town

mafia

[motel room]

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A2THEZEBRA
INSERTNAMEHERE

scum
scum

[a2thezebra]

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A2THEZEBRA
INSERTNAMEHERE

LEGEND
MAFIA

[Tangrowth]

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A2THEZEBRA
INSERTNAMEHERE

Town
Mafia

[MacDougall]

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A2THEZEBRA
INSERTNAMEHERE

BZZZZ
Bad

[a2thezebra]

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A2THEZEBRA
INSERTNAMEHERE

scum
scum

I knew you'd OMGUS.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Okay super. Chart time.

[MacDougall]

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A2THEZEBRA
INSERTNAMEHERE

scum
scum

I knew you'd OMGUS.

That's rich.

[Tangrowth]

I have to admit I'm a bit surprised at my own GTH of INH. I need to give him a hard look.

[motel room]

GTH GO

A2THEZEBRA
INSERTNAMEHERE

scum
scum

I knew you'd OMGUS.

And what does that say about me to you?

[Quin]

Having a look at sprityo, now that it's no longer EoD and I've got the time to do it myself.

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reading this, it amazes me you all have things to say to eachother, that are never 100% the same, from game to game. Mafia is a strange game indeed.

but uh, ill move my vote to Neil Hardy. i dont trust a man who isnt himself

Role-play based suspicion. I recall Eloh and LoRab getting the most heat from that. But it's definitely here too.

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Neil Hartley is a man of action. I'm going to let you all know how I feel, because feeling it everything in my line of work baby. Don't you worry about the exact order, just look at the tiers.

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Dom
S~V~S

Epignosis
insertnamehere
MacDougall
LoRab
Ricochet
Sloonei

birdwithteeth11
DrWilgy
sanmateo

a2thezebra
Glorfindel
motel room
MovingPictures07
Scotty
sprityo

Elohcin

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I'd like to know why I'm not a prettier color, pretty please.

My job in that game as selected by dice roll was to kill people not in my faction and survive. Killing you was my right and duty.

In this game assuming you are a civ your job is to find bad guys and lynch them. Something you are utterly failing at right now both literally and figuratively.

My God, it's as if policy lynch is an alien concept to you.

there's no hunting in it

there's just the desire to remove the threat of you being bad again and activate your purging once more

Actually it's just that your idea of a policy lynch is dumb even excluding that I am your target.

Mic drop.

To summarize, the bulk of the Rico-Mac war (as entertaining as it is) didn't captivate me very much because I got both a gut baddie read of Rico and a gut civilian read of Mac well before the conflict reached its peak. In spite of the first post I quoted, after fully catching up I feel good about MP overall. Other civ reads include SVS, insertnamehere (nice still from Fire Walk With Me by the way), Elohcin, Neil/JJJ, and Sloonei. My only baddie reads as of right now are Rico and to a lesser extent Scotty, though mainly because there's less to go on with Scotty then there is with Rico. Anyone I haven't mentioned in this paragraph I don't have a confident enough read to say. Yet.

So I'm getting quite a bit more civ reads than usual this early in the game which is nice on the one hand, but on the other hand it makes me a little paranoid that the wool is being pulled over my eyes. I look forward to seeing how things unravel in the coming phases.

Cheers folks, I'll be back in twelve hours or so.

(I managed to mess up the formatting but its zebras post)


My views go along the lines of what zebra is getting at here. I personally don't care for the whole thing/pissing contest of Mac and rico, in fact this is the only thing I'll say on the matter. I don't want to be asked questions over it or have any opinion on it mostly because I feel it's just filler for day 1. I have no care for how someone acts prievously. You can do whatever you want from game to game. Neil Hartley is a great example

Little opinion done with. On the topic of JJJ, I would honestly be more comfortable if he dropped the whole Neil thing cause when he is just being himself, I like his input a good deal.

I'm, that's all I got for now, I'll have to get back to you guys tonight after chow

I do not know how to salvage that, the post itself is broken . More to the point, I don't like that hes resisting being questioned about his opinion on the matter. I don't see how his 'You can do whatever you want from game to game' is related to anything. I'd like him to elaborate.

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Now, as for my vote today (Day 1 ) I can see where scotty can be bad. I am moving my vote there. I don't want to vote BWT if I don't have to. Hate to lose a possible civ position even if it's a quiet one.

Elohcin's vote was also vaguely explained, and tacked onto an awkward backtrack defense of BWT (her previous vote).

im not sure about anyone else, but the yellow part alone looks.... not the best? i mean, at least personally, i wouldve rather had scotty and his lurker suspicion over someone who i cant talk to or get information from. at least at the current point in time

I understand his mindset and do not fault him for it. There's a part of me that thinks this is more of a matter of principle than it is anything related to this game. I'd like other people to read this post.

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sprityo, could you expand on this assertion you made relative to Epignosis on Night 1?

I mean, hopping off/on a wagon at best last moment is always fishy

The two people who came out of Day 1 looking worse for me are Elo and Epi, those two lovebirds.

Elo's Scotty vote and "self-preservation" was weird to me. Same thing with Epi's ultimately useless last second switcheroo where he jumped off of the Scotty train mere seconds before it crashed into a wall. I'd really like to see his explanation for his vote because right now it just rings as hollowly opportunistic.

Seconding Epi's response to this:

What's the opportunity?

sprityo tried to help:

The two people who came out of Day 1 looking worse for me are Elo and Epi, those two lovebirds.

Elo's Scotty vote and "self-preservation" was weird to me. Same thing with Epi's ultimately useless last second switcheroo where he jumped off of the Scotty train mere seconds before it crashed into a wall. I'd really like to see his explanation for his vote because right now it just rings as hollowly opportunistic.

What's the opportunity?

I think "opportunity" was the wrong word to use. I think a better word to describe it is, suspicious, or, coincidental.

I mean, hopping off/on a wagon at best last moment is always fishy

But I fail to see how Epi's "hopping off the bandwagon" is really fishy at all. He's moving his vote from the inevitable lynch wagon onto a player with no votes near the end of the day. That could be cause for suspicion in a completely different context, but this does not look anything like a player trying to distance themselves from the responsibility of a mislynch. There's no way to do that, and if this is Epi's attempt at such a maneuver (which I doubt is something he would do here anyway) then he did it in the least subtle way imaginable. This suspicion of Epi is what feels opportunistic to me.

So the thing JJJ quoted, it was more a comment I made, it really looks more of A stepping stone I was using to try and get prompts to talk more (which look where we are). But in the actual sense of things with what I was talking about. I was more talking about how if you jump on a wagon at the last second, you're either contributing to lynching a townie or in the case of lynching scum, possibly bussing your partner. So either output is not favorable and would draw suspicion. It's like wifom, where you never win.

"Hopping off" the wagon has a similar effect. You jump off a town lynch and it looks like you were trying to not look like you contributed to the lynch and were not in favor of it. And if you jump off a scum lynch it looks like you were trying to possibly save your buddy.

It's all hypothetical, but of course, possible situations. Perspectives.

I mean, hopping off/on a wagon at best last moment is always fishy

Going to talk about this next.

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sprityo, could you expand on this assertion you made relative to Epignosis on Night 1?

I mean, hopping off/on a wagon at best last moment is always fishy

The two people who came out of Day 1 looking worse for me are Elo and Epi, those two lovebirds.

Elo's Scotty vote and "self-preservation" was weird to me. Same thing with Epi's ultimately useless last second switcheroo where he jumped off of the Scotty train mere seconds before it crashed into a wall. I'd really like to see his explanation for his vote because right now it just rings as hollowly opportunistic.

Seconding Epi's response to this:

What's the opportunity?

sprityo tried to help:

The two people who came out of Day 1 looking worse for me are Elo and Epi, those two lovebirds.

Elo's Scotty vote and "self-preservation" was weird to me. Same thing with Epi's ultimately useless last second switcheroo where he jumped off of the Scotty train mere seconds before it crashed into a wall. I'd really like to see his explanation for his vote because right now it just rings as hollowly opportunistic.

What's the opportunity?

I think "opportunity" was the wrong word to use. I think a better word to describe it is, suspicious, or, coincidental.

I mean, hopping off/on a wagon at best last moment is always fishy

But I fail to see how Epi's "hopping off the bandwagon" is really fishy at all. He's moving his vote from the inevitable lynch wagon onto a player with no votes near the end of the day. That could be cause for suspicion in a completely different context, but this does not look anything like a player trying to distance themselves from the responsibility of a mislynch. There's no way to do that, and if this is Epi's attempt at such a maneuver (which I doubt is something he would do here anyway) then he did it in the least subtle way imaginable. This suspicion of Epi is what feels opportunistic to me.

So the thing JJJ quoted, it was more a comment I made, it really looks more of A stepping stone I was using to try and get prompts to talk more (which look where we are). But in the actual sense of things with what I was talking about. I was more talking about how if you jump on a wagon at the last second, you're either contributing to lynching a townie or in the case of lynching scum, possibly bussing your partner. So either output is not favorable and would draw suspicion. It's like wifom, where you never win.

"Hopping off" the wagon has a similar effect. You jump off a town lynch and it looks like you were trying to not look like you contributed to the lynch and were not in favor of it. And if you jump off a scum lynch it looks like you were trying to possibly save your buddy.

It's all hypothetical, but of course, possible situations. Perspectives.

His explanation as to what he meant is another thing that I think could be in the realm of principle. The actual post is, I think, a subtle opposition to INH's reasoning for suspecting Epi for his vote switch, going by the 'well,' and the timing. That's the only instance where he interacts with INH before declaring him a slight scum read. sprityo, how do you feel about INH now? Do you have specific posts that make you feel that way?

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@sloonei: I didn't forget your question, I just haven't willed myself around to doing it yet. At first glance inh is in a weird position to say the least. I'll try to do something decent tonight or something maybe idk.

Linki: I totally was just about to post this

One post inferring a slight scum read, though unjustified.

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@sloonei: it appears INH was sorta in the game, trying to put out some kind of content as to not look useless/lurker suspicious. But then you started poking at his logic with questions and he basically got more and more defensive (and frustrated) as it went on until he did that large post on page 16.) overall I think you should cut him some slack and back off the previous day stuff and ask his opinions on something else rather than frustrate him more. I can see your side of the argument about him just parroting, but it's not enough to convince anything short of thinking INH is null or slightly scummy at worst

Another post. His more solid reasons to suspect him come from Sloonei, I think. He doesn't have any real interaction with INH to paint any examples. He also suggests Sloonei moves on from previous day stuff, a mild ping there. But he specifically says INH doesn't drop to below a slight scum read.

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@sloonei: well off the top of my head I can place Sloonei and JJJ in town with zebra following them. I don't have an opinion over either mac or Rico, and I don't think MP has done anything terrible outside of just being goofy. Other than that I haven't tried to deep think about anyone mostly due to the large amounts of text that appear between two people at a time. I'm essentially at "everyone is innocent until proven guilty" right now

Again, the posts just aren't there for me to call these reads justified. Although I'd like some elaboration on all these reads, I specifically want to know about 3J. How did you go from voting him on Day 1 to town reading him? Saying he hasn't tried to deep think about anyone is so blatantly honest I don't think I can scum read it.

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If you're going to talk about me at least have me involved in it. Or you can also look at the reply I made earlier to wilgy (I think, either him or sloonei) about that exact post that you guys quoted. I won't stand for being downplayed for trying my best to contribute. (Or at least that's how I'm precieving it)

Feel free to jump into any discussions about you. Especially this one. I'm getting the feeling you're just overwhelmed by the thread, and I can understand that.

I'd shade him orange right now. There's a few bad pings, a few things that I think are non-alignment indicative, but there's no necessarily much that I can say in his favour right now. There are some things I'd like him to address in here, and some things I'd like others to look at too.

linki: oh my fuck

[a2thezebra]

GTH GO

A2THEZEBRA
INSERTNAMEHERE

scum
scum

I knew you'd OMGUS.

That's rich.

If you actually think I OMGUS'd you when that LoRab vote exists you're delusional.

linki @ motel - That you're bad? Duh?

[Tangrowth]

Alright, let me try to start a response to JJJ's interaction thing now. BBL

[motel room]

GTH GO

A2THEZEBRA
INSERTNAMEHERE

scum
scum

I knew you'd OMGUS.

That's rich.

If you actually think I OMGUS'd you when that LoRab vote exists you're delusional.

linki @ motel - That you're bad? Duh?

How did you know I would decide you were scum?

[Quin]

Hey Quin

Hey, JumboJollyJack.

zebra - good
dom - good
wilgy - bad
glorfindel - good
indiglo - bad
insertnamehere - bad
jaggedjimmyjay - good
lorab - good
macdougall - bad
motel room - good
movingpictures - good
sloonei - good
sprityo - bad