The Syndicate

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:02 pm

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:47 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:38 pm

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:36 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:31 pm Interesting it's turned into a thunderdome situation.

Well, you made a pretty compelling case on him and he made one on you, so...how is this surprising?

His case is 100% rubber/glue, omgus garbage.

I'm town.

See, this is the funny part...I don't know that Otto is scum. I just know that I'm town. Weird that he doesn't even see it as a possibility for me tho.

man this is making me reconsider my vote

Funny how he hammers Otto again seven posts later.

that post from krusty creeps me out, it's like he knows otto will flip town and wants to get that out of the way quickly. he says he's considering otto town possibilities but all his posts push a scum otto world.

re: the thunderdome, the reason that I do think there's 1 mafia in there is because in these situations, when you have 2 people with a lot of meta with each other who can read each other very confidently, and they're both confident the other is scum, it's very rarely v/v. I'm not familiar with otto and krusty's real identity (I think they're from canucks?) but I get a similar vibe as like, hally and dizzy or sloonei and JJJ. it's possible for one of the pair to fool & pocket the other, but it's very rare for both to be town and for the other not to see that in them. essentially they'd have to both be wrong on each other despite having the purest of intentions, which is just... unlikelier than one of them being scum lol.

krusty, where in your posts have you been considering the possibility of otto town? how do you expect town otto to approach you this day phase, given how the game has been going so far?

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:50 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:31 pm 5 hours until Eod i will be back i hope 2 hours before

Still reading that Iso but i wanted to check the Eod moment.

It's 4. You've missed the host post clarifying it

Then my app who tells me is 7 pm now is wrong?

It is, i see, because the post's hour is 8 and the mins.

I don't believe your you have the same wagon formation.

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:12 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:50 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:31 pm 5 hours until Eod i will be back i hope 2 hours before

Still reading that Iso but i wanted to check the Eod moment.

It's 4. You've missed the host post clarifying it

Then my app who tells me is 7 pm now is wrong?

It's 7pm but phase ends at 8:30 since there was an extra hour yesterday 'cause DST ended.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:20 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:02 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:57 pm What did you get from looking at Burns and me?

I've been poking at both of you for reads and thoughts this day phase and I've gotten mostly zilch tbh

both of you are just repeating the party line in that you have roughly the same reads/ideas you've had a day phase ago (correct me if you've done any major re-evals this day and I missed it). burns is depressed and I think townies are more likely to be depressed in this gamestate but obv that's easily fakeable.

Did I miss some of your questions? I think I got back to everyone mentioning me, and shared my reads and thoughts on the game. Haven't really mentioned Grumple and Grampa though but I have no interest in solving there, nor has anything changed from my thoughts the last phase.

Lmao at party line. Re-evaluation doesn't necessarily entail reaching completely different conclusions. One change though would be Bart as mentioned in my interactions with him earlier. Reservations on Krusty are new-ish. Fucking Burns that's my line, I'm the one emotionally exhausted

Chances that this is w/w theatre durecting town in 2 opposite directions?

Krusty's world are really lacking. Like I can only see him wolfing with one of Alison/Burns if not both. I'm not really entertaining Bart worlds, I'd like to think this is still a winnable game lol. Never with Otto

I guess there is a Krusty/Grampa/Grumple, very unlikely I say. That'd be the most underwhelming mafia team lmao.

Had the spat with Grumple which I think is unlikely to be w/w 'cause they don't know each other from what I gather. Would be pretty surprising

Although I guess it might be just their personalities clashing and it has no bearing in their alignment lmao

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:19 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:20 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:02 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:57 pm What did you get from looking at Burns and me?

I've been poking at both of you for reads and thoughts this day phase and I've gotten mostly zilch tbh

both of you are just repeating the party line in that you have roughly the same reads/ideas you've had a day phase ago (correct me if you've done any major re-evals this day and I missed it). burns is depressed and I think townies are more likely to be depressed in this gamestate but obv that's easily fakeable.

Did I miss some of your questions? I think I got back to everyone mentioning me, and shared my reads and thoughts on the game. Haven't really mentioned Grumple and Grampa though but I have no interest in solving there, nor has anything changed from my thoughts the last phase.

Lmao at party line. Re-evaluation doesn't necessarily entail reaching completely different conclusions. One change though would be Bart as mentioned in my interactions with him earlier. Reservations on Krusty are new-ish. Fucking Burns that's my line, I'm the one emotionally exhausted

Chances that this is w/w theatre durecting town in 2 opposite directions?

Otto and Krusty? Or me and Alison interactions lol?

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:25 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:19 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:20 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:02 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:57 pm What did you get from looking at Burns and me?

I've been poking at both of you for reads and thoughts this day phase and I've gotten mostly zilch tbh

both of you are just repeating the party line in that you have roughly the same reads/ideas you've had a day phase ago (correct me if you've done any major re-evals this day and I missed it). burns is depressed and I think townies are more likely to be depressed in this gamestate but obv that's easily fakeable.

Did I miss some of your questions? I think I got back to everyone mentioning me, and shared my reads and thoughts on the game. Haven't really mentioned Grumple and Grampa though but I have no interest in solving there, nor has anything changed from my thoughts the last phase.

Lmao at party line. Re-evaluation doesn't necessarily entail reaching completely different conclusions. One change though would be Bart as mentioned in my interactions with him earlier. Reservations on Krusty are new-ish. Fucking Burns that's my line, I'm the one emotionally exhausted

Chances that this is w/w theatre durecting town in 2 opposite directions?

Otto and Krusty? Or me and Alison interactions lol?

Yours and Allison's

[VOTE: Alliison] aubergine

Going to the poll asap too... What a game....

Of course of Otto is scum i will hate myself after all

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:29 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:25 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:19 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:20 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:02 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:57 pm What did you get from looking at Burns and me?

I've been poking at both of you for reads and thoughts this day phase and I've gotten mostly zilch tbh

both of you are just repeating the party line in that you have roughly the same reads/ideas you've had a day phase ago (correct me if you've done any major re-evals this day and I missed it). burns is depressed and I think townies are more likely to be depressed in this gamestate but obv that's easily fakeable.

Did I miss some of your questions? I think I got back to everyone mentioning me, and shared my reads and thoughts on the game. Haven't really mentioned Grumple and Grampa though but I have no interest in solving there, nor has anything changed from my thoughts the last phase.

Lmao at party line. Re-evaluation doesn't necessarily entail reaching completely different conclusions. One change though would be Bart as mentioned in my interactions with him earlier. Reservations on Krusty are new-ish. Fucking Burns that's my line, I'm the one emotionally exhausted

Chances that this is w/w theatre durecting town in 2 opposite directions?

Otto and Krusty? Or me and Alison interactions lol?

Yours and Allison's

[VOTE: Alliison] aubergine

Going to the poll asap too... What a game....

Lol never, I mentioned not looking at the Otto v Krusty that way

How much time is it until Eod?
Poll says is at 9:30
My clock says is 7:30 now
You already said my clock is good but you say we have one hour until Eod.

Why didn't you join me on Burns Bart?

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:33 pm How much time is it until Eod?
Poll says is at 9:30
My clock says is 7:30 now
You already said my clock is good but you say we have one hour until Eod.

55 minutes. Here's the host post

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:38 am

Please note that because of Daylight Saving Time, Day 4 will actually end at 8:30 PM Eastern time, one hour earlier than normally scheduled. I apologize for our society's continued reliance on this practice.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:33 pm Why didn't you join me on Burns Bart?

Exactly when i thought you may help me with the hour thingy

It's the poll that is wrong 'cause it doesn't take into account DST ending mid-phase

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:35 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:33 pm How much time is it until Eod?
Poll says is at 9:30
My clock says is 7:30 now
You already said my clock is good but you say we have one hour until Eod.

55 minutes. Here's the host post

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:38 am

Please note that because of Daylight Saving Time, Day 4 will actually end at 8:30 PM Eastern time, one hour earlier than normally scheduled. I apologize for our society's continued reliance on this practice.

O-kay i forgot

Apologies not accepted

I swear if you're Mafia bart lolol

[mention]Allison Taylor[/mention] why do you think we have to see you villager?

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:37 pm Apologies not accepted

My bad, i raraely apologise when i didn't offend someone

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:40 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:37 pm Apologies not accepted

My bad, i raraely apologise when i didn't offend someone

Good rule

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:38 pm @Allison Taylor why do you think we have to see you villager?

Because you see the town spirit and solving attitude in my posts?

[mention]Grampa Simpson[/mention] [mention]The Grumple[/mention]

Allison?

Spicy I guess.

Seriously though, I'm not scum and you should not vote me. I've been doing my best to solve the game and if you get led into another misexe you'll probably lose the F7.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:37 pm I swear if you're Mafia bart lolol

best line who can be posted by mafia against a townie is this, but i received this from both AIs during my games from many players, what i try to find is the intention behind.
Why would you post such things to inflate my paranoia?

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:42 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:38 pm @Allison Taylor why do you think we have to see you villager?

Because you see the town spirit and solving attitude in my posts?

I am blind, i don't see the spirit of the town in this game at no one litterally
Please help

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:45 pm Allison?

Spicy I guess.

This is all you can say?

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:48 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:42 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:38 pm @Allison Taylor why do you think we have to see you villager?

Because you see the town spirit and solving attitude in my posts?

I am blind, i don't see the spirit of the town in this game at no one litterally
Please help

I don't know how to show it to you Bart. I've been doing my best to solve the game since D1, my pushes haven't been the best but none of us have had particularly good pushes so far so I don't see why that makes me scum. I've told you my reads already, I can quote it for you if you'd like.

What makes you think I'm a better exe than one in Otto/Krusty? I argued earlier that there was very likely a wolf there because it would be pretty unlikely for both players to misread each other so heavily given that they knew each other really well and were able to confidently identify and meta each other D1.

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:45 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:37 pm I swear if you're Mafia bart lolol

best line who can be posted by mafia against a townie is this, but i received this from both AIs during my games from many players, what i try to find is the intention behind.
Why would you post such things to inflate my paranoia?

It's just how I feel because I'm going with you as town after suspecting you last phase. I'm also paranoid lol

You feel it's manipulative?

All our suspects until now didn't give a damn and we have town reads not bothered so much during the game

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:51 pm You feel it's manipulative?

No. I hope i perceive it correct

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:49 pm

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:45 pm Allison?

Spicy I guess.

This is all you can say?

What else is there? Seems like a grasp at straws play, but it's not like I have any great arguments...I've read Allison as town, but I've pretty much read everyone as town so I'm obviously wrong somewhere.

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:50 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:48 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:42 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:38 pm @Allison Taylor why do you think we have to see you villager?

Because you see the town spirit and solving attitude in my posts?

I am blind, i don't see the spirit of the town in this game at no one litterally
Please help

I don't know how to show it to you Bart. I've been doing my best to solve the game since D1, my pushes haven't been the best but none of us have had particularly good pushes so far so I don't see why that makes me scum. I've told you my reads already, I can quote it for you if you'd like.

What makes you think I'm a better exe than one in Otto/Krusty? I argued earlier that there was very likely a wolf there because it would be pretty unlikely for both players to misread each other so heavily given that they knew each other really well and were able to confidently identify and meta each other D1.

If Otto/Krusty has just one wolf, then 2 more are outside.
Who are they?

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:53 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:49 pm

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:45 pm Allison?

Spicy I guess.

This is all you can say?

What else is there? Seems like a grasp at straws play, but it's not like I have any great arguments...I've read Allison as town, but I've pretty much read everyone as town so I'm obviously wrong somewhere.

You don't have scum reads?

[mention]Bart Simpson[/mention] Did you finish the iso of Krusty?

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:54 pm If Otto/Krusty has just one wolf, then 2 more are outside.
Who are they?

As said earlier:

One in Hugh/Burns, because those two aren't wolves together. I'm currently leaning towards it being Burns slightly more because Hugh voted me without hesitation and Burns sort of showed hesitation to join the wagon on me, like he knows the wagon is bad and he doesn't want to get his hands dirty.

One in Gramps/Grumple. I have mixed feelings about both of them but GTH it's Grumple because the town stuff I've seen from Grumple seems less easier to fake than the town stuff I've seen from Gramps (even if it's less consistent).

I exposed my reads when i came itt. I received cricket noises.
How can i draw a correct conclusion?

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:52 pm All our suspects until now didn't give a damn and we have town reads not bothered so much during the game

All our suspects until now were just "well everyone else seems towny." Today we are gonna chop someone who has at least put in effort on clearing themselves...truthfully or not...so yeah they are gonna resist. That goes for Allison, Krusty, or Otto.

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:06 pm krusty, where in your posts have you been considering the possibility of otto town? how do you expect town otto to approach you this day phase, given how the game has been going so far?

I just told you about the possibility that Otto is town. That's where it is. He might be. I don't know, cuz I'm town & I've proven that this game I know 2 things: jack & shit.



I have no idea how Otto is supposed to approach me this RD if he's town. I know his arguments against me are hypocritical and without merit.

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:55 pm

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:53 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:49 pm

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:45 pm Allison?

Spicy I guess.

This is all you can say?

What else is there? Seems like a grasp at straws play, but it's not like I have any great arguments...I've read Allison as town, but I've pretty much read everyone as town so I'm obviously wrong somewhere.

You don't have scum reads?

I'm solid on one of Krusty or Otto, but can't get better than about 60/40 on which one.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:55 pm @Bart Simpson Did you finish the iso of Krusty?

Nope i was kidnapped by RL unfortunately.
Did you have time to Iso Allison and find a reason to vote her?

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:56 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:52 pm All our suspects until now didn't give a damn and we have town reads not bothered so much during the game

All our suspects until now were just "well everyone else seems towny." Today we are gonna chop someone who has at least put in effort on clearing themselves...truthfully or not...so yeah they are gonna resist. That goes for Allison, Krusty, or Otto.

And you t-b-q-h