Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VII]
Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 11:32 pm
Belsh, what make you of Rebecca?
If there's no Night, there's no Night. That applies to everyone.Belshazzar wrote:Also, @Host: what happens if there'll be no "seventh Night", as far as Elijah is concerned? Does it take effect anyway?
this tbqh.Lot wrote:Before anyone throws the idea out there...
I think it's a zero sum game. Lynch a heathen, Elijah gets no kill. But for Elijah to get a kill, we have to lynch no heathen. And then hope Elijah is alive, and smites a baddie.
So for me, I think our better option is to do our utmost to find a heathen, and if we fail at least Elijah might have the chance to make up for it.
Balaam wrote:DAY 1 RESULTS:
1. SAMUEL (Paul)
2. SAMUEL (Samson)<---voter = civvie
3. LOT (Gideon)
4. UZZIAH (Pilate)
5. REBECCA (Rachel)
6. PAUL (Martha)
7. BARNABAS (Stephen)
8. UZZIAH (Job) <---voter = civvie
9. SAMSON (Mordecai)
10. SAMSON (Mary Mag)<---voter = civvie
11. ABSALOM (Cain)<---voter = civvie
12. CAIN (Deborah)
13. CAIN (Absalom)
14. SAMSON (Isaac)
15. SAMSON (Jacob)
16. JEPHTHA (Rebecca)
17. ABSALOM (Malchus)
18. SAMSON (Jonathan)
19. MARY MAG (Jonah)
20. SAMSON (Belshazzar)
21. SAMSON (Samuel)
22. CAIN (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
23. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
24. PAUL (Nicodemus)
25. CAIN (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
26. GIDEON (Hagar)
27. MARY MAG (Jephthah)
28. UZZIAH (Rahab)
29. CAIN (Balaam)
Not Voting: Barnabas, Bathsheba, Esther, Judas, Lazarus
Balaam wrote:Day 2 Results:
1. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
2. UZZIAH (Job)<---voter = civvie
3. JOB (Rachel)
4. CAIN (Paul)
5. CAIN (Absalom)
6. CAIN (Belshazzar)
7. CAIN (Deborah)
8. CAIN (Malchus)
9. UZZIAH (Lot)
10. CAIN (Rahab)
11. STEPHEN (Stephen)
12. CAIN (Balaam)
13. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)
14. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
15. UZZIAH (Jonathan)
16. CAIN (Bathsheba)
Not Voting: Barnabas (2), Cain, Esther (2), Gideon, Hagar, Isaac, Jacob, Jephthah, Jonah, Judah (2), Mary Mag, Mordecai, Nicodemus, Pilate, Ruth, Samuel
Balaam wrote:DAY 3 Results:
1. UZZIAH (Job)<---voter = civvie
2. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
3. RACHEL (Lot)
4. RACHEL (Mary Mag)<---voter = civvie
5. UZZIAH (Nicodemus)
6. LAZARUS (Mordecai)
7. JOB (Isaac)
8. RAHAB (Jonah)
9. UZZIAH (Absalom)
10. MARY MAG (Rebecca)
11. LAZARUS (Jonathan)
12. LAZARUS (Gideon)
13. MARY MAG (Jacob)
14. MARY MAG (Belshazzar)
15. MARY MAG (Jephthah)
16. MARY MAG (Deborah)
17. JOB (Rachel)
18. JOB (Esther)
19. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
20. UZZIAH (Rahab)
21. MARY MAG (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
22. MARY MAG (Balaam)
Day 3 Not Voting: Barnabas (3), Bathsheba (2), Hagar (2), Judah (3), Malchus, Pilate (2), Samuel (2), Stephen
Balaam wrote:DAY 4 Results:
1. RACHEL (Pilate)
2. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
3. BALAAM (Absalom)
4. BALAAM (Nicodemus)
5. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
6. JOB (Rachel)
7. BALAAM (Rebecca)
8. JOB (Stephen)
9. JOB (Jonah)
10. JOB (Samuel)
11. LAZARUS (Mordecai)
12. JOB (Balaam)
13. UZZIAH (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
14. LAZARUS (Rahab)
15. RACHEL (Job)<---voter = civvie
16. BALAAM (Jephthah)
17. JOB (Esther)
18. JOB (Jonathan)
19. BALAAM (Judah)
20. DEBORAH (Deborah)
21. JOB (Belshazzar)
Not Voting: Barnabas (4), Bathsheba (3), Isaac (2), Jacob (2), Lot, Malchus (2)
DAY 6 Results:Balaam wrote:DAY 5 Results:
1. UZZIAH (Pilate)
2. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)
3. UZZIAH (Stephen)
4. UZZIAH (Absalom)
5. SAMUEL (Jephthah)
6. UZZIAH (Jonathan)
7. STEPHEN (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
9. UZZIAH (Esther)
10. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
11. SAMUEL (Belshazzar)
12. UZZIAH (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
13. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
14. UZZIAH (Rahab)
15. JEPHTHAH (Isaac)
16. UZZIAH (Rachel)
17. UZZIAH (Mordecai)
18. MALCHUS (Deborah)
19. JEPHTHAH (Jonah)
Not Voting: Balaam, Bathsheba (4), Jacob (3), Judah (4), Malchus (3)
This is where my suspicion of Pilate began. This post here made me look into him in the first place. It looks like he is trying to hard to apologize for not being helpful to the cause of getting baddies.Pilate wrote:I'm shocked that I don't have more suspicion by now. So this is the life of an unforgivably low poster.
Pilate wrote:Uzziah has no reason at all to think I'm Civ, unless he's bad.
These quote stands out to me. He admits his behavior thus far should be seen as baddie behavior. I think that he thinks by admitting this we will think he is civ, but not me. And I think he uses the first quote to distance from Uzz again as he is the first to vote for him and the first to vote altogether if you don't count host/non/dead option. It bit him in the ass, however when people began to follow his crazy behavior and Uzz got the most votes that day.Pilate wrote:How could anyone "read" me as Civ with the way I've been playing. Hardly here, and when I am here, I say sketchy things.
AND...he votes for Absalom, the first to vote for his teammate, Ruth.Pilate wrote:What happened to the night? We lynched Uzziah, and went straight into another lynch?
Sorry, that may have been meRachel wrote:Careful, he might start suspecting you and almost get you lynched!Belshazzar wrote:Let's lynch Jacob.
4 posts containing anything about Ruth. 4 posts in six chapters. All of them the previous Day.
"Case on Ruth is intriguing."
"Ruth is unlikely to be Uzziah's teammate because she hunted him consistently."
"Feeling ambivalent about Ruth, don't feel like voting her."
"Hope you're right about Ruth"
I agree with this. I think at least 2 of the people who voted for you behind me saw a convenient opportunity to get rid of you (assuming you are civ). I feel really good about Absalom after this lynch. So we should definitely scrutinize his voters, as well. It may also be helpful to look at the bandwagoning Ruth voters. I think Balaam pointed this out, too. A response to his thoughts coming up.Rachel wrote:I think the Absalom and Me voters are potential suspects.
I think I know who you are buddyJacob wrote:I encourage people to read my posts WITHOUT presupposing that I am bad. I think you are all putting a spin on everything I say, and sure I don't have the cleanest voting record or consistency of opinions, but I have been nothing but honest in each of my posts. Try going in without that bias and see me for the unfortunately very frustrated civvie that I am. Also look for my very subtle hints![]()
I LOLd at this tooEsther wrote:HAHA....I didn't even see Pilate's most recent post until now. "good job guys, maybe Absalom is okay afterall."Yeah, maybe :P
I don't follow your thought process here. There was conversation all through the voting about Pilate and especially Jacob. Jacob was my first selection (and iirc you proclaimed Jacob the most dangerous of them all), I almost changed to Ruth but did not because of the point Jacob brought up, and ended up voting for Jacob after all. When I mentioned changing to Ruth, Lot also gave me an opinion that he wasn't positive about Ruth and that Jacob was a good choice. Whether he's heathen or not he certainly carried a lot of suspicion and I voted him because of it. So how do you get that someone who voted Jacob is bad? Maybe there is a heathen in the group you list but it is not me.Balaam wrote:
2) I slightly disagree with Rachel on where to look for the next Heathen. I agree on looking at those who voted for Rachel but the votes for Jacob and Pilate concern me more than the votes for Absalom. Look at my color list and consider this:
-Ruth takes an early 2-vote lead
-Esther jumps on Pilate, adding another name to the spread
-Jeph casts his vote for Ruth, making it a 3-vote lead
-Momentum stops for a while
-Rachel picks up the next 2 votes
-Pilate gets another vote
-Absalom picks up the magical mystery vote from Lazarus
-Two votes suddenly come in for Jacob now that things are pretty spread out and it looks like the Ruth wagon lost its mojo
-Rachel votes to keep Ruth 2 votes ahead of her
-Jacob votes to keep Rachel close to Ruth
-Ruth votes Absalom in the hopes of Lazarus being the Walrus
-Then things pick up again for Ruth as we become wary of the Lazarus Theory
Lots of spreading going on with the votes for Rachel, Jacob, and Pilate. Does anyone honestly have a strong positive read on any of the following:
-Deborah
-Esther
-Isaac
-Jacob
-Jonathan
-Mordecai
-Rahab
-Rebecca
I bet there are two Heathens in that list. But who?
Jonathan is on my must re-read list. Not sure I feel your gut read on Jacob. After all, you had a gut read on me once...Absalom wrote:Jonathan, and I'm not sure of the other. Maybe Mordecai. I don't think Jacob is bad, but it's just a gut read, so I might be wrong.Balaam wrote: Lots of spreading going on with the votes for Rachel, Jacob, and Pilate. Does anyone honestly have a strong positive read on any of the following:
-Deborah
-Esther
-Isaac
-Jacob
-Jonathan
-Mordecai
-Rahab
-Rebecca
I bet there are two Heathens in that list. But who?
Haha, fair enough.Balaam wrote:Jonathan is on my must re-read list. Not sure I feel your gut read on Jacob. After all, you had a gut read on me once...Absalom wrote:Jonathan, and I'm not sure of the other. Maybe Mordecai. I don't think Jacob is bad, but it's just a gut read, so I might be wrong.Balaam wrote: Lots of spreading going on with the votes for Rachel, Jacob, and Pilate. Does anyone honestly have a strong positive read on any of the following:
-Deborah
-Esther
-Isaac
-Jacob
-Jonathan
-Mordecai
-Rahab
-Rebecca
I bet there are two Heathens in that list. But who?
I am not bad. What would make you think I am?Absalom wrote:Jonathan, why are you so bad?
Your voting record.Jonathan wrote:I am not bad. What would make you think I am?Absalom wrote:Jonathan, why are you so bad?
Why did you abandon your Uzziah suspicion on Day 3 when he could actually have been lynched?Jonathan wrote:Each of those votes was a reasonable vote on the day of the vote. You pointed out I voted Uzziah 4th - that was well before it was obvious he was going to take the day. I also voted him another day because I was suspicious of him. Did you read my posts? Did you see what I was thinking about uzziah? I would bet that you didn't.
You may have caught Ruth and you may get me lynched which will convince some people that are on the fence about you where your allegiance lies.
Jonathan wrote:After giving more though to a Uzziah vote again today I have decided to wait and give that another day or two to develop. He has been silent today (at least I didn't see anything from him) but I don't know if he is laying low or legitimately silenced. I have chosen to go with Lazarus today for the reasons that Mordecai and Balaam brought up today. One thing that does concern me is that maybe he has been silenced but I'm going to take the risk in his case.
Boom. Flat out admitted you were avoiding being part of the actual lynch. Suspicious as all heck.Jonathan wrote:I know but I had to explain my reasoning. I preferred not to. Besides, I think Cain is going to have enough votes without mine.Jephthah wrote:Bring out the cheeze. They're here.
Jonathan, if Cain is bad, you just encouraged him not to post anything
I also can't believe we don't have others voting.
Abandoning your previous suspicion to "give that another day or two" even though this is your best chance to lynch him. I don't believe you.Jonathan wrote:After giving more though to a Uzziah vote again today I have decided to wait and give that another day or two to develop. He has been silent today (at least I didn't see anything from him) but I don't know if he is laying low or legitimately silenced. I have chosen to go with Lazarus today for the reasons that Mordecai and Balaam brought up today. One thing that does concern me is that maybe he has been silenced but I'm going to take the risk in his case.
It doesn't make sense that you would back off him just as you had the chance to lynch him, and then come back and vote for him again later, when his lynch was inevitable (you were only the fourth vote, but it was obvious that he was going down.) It reeks of insincerity.Jonathan wrote: And you don't believe me that I was giving Uzziah the benefit of a few days? Then why did I come back and vote him later? 4th, not last or next to last.
1. I am not as sure as you because I think we might have some inactive on the baddie team given the Pharaoh has done almost all the killing.Balaam wrote: 1) Does anyone think that Samuel and/or Bathsheba are exonerated by the stoning result? Their votes were sudden and very last minute when the race was theoretically close (if Lazarus is Simon). If Laz is Simon, then Samuel's vote was the clincher. The question is whether or not he was paying attention to the vote tally theories before he jumped in and voted. Had he not been aware of it, he may have thought he was just bandwagoning. Bathsheba has barely participated in this game at all, missing 4 votes and hardly posting, which makes me think more and more that she is just an indifferent player and finally got around to doing something (perhaps after a nudge from the host?).
2) I slightly disagree with Rachel on where to look for the next Heathen. I agree on looking at those who voted for Rachel but the votes for Jacob and Pilate concern me more than the votes for Absalom. Look at my color list and consider this:
-Ruth takes an early 2-vote lead
-Esther jumps on Pilate, adding another name to the spread
-Jeph casts his vote for Ruth, making it a 3-vote lead
-Momentum stops for a while
-Rachel picks up the next 2 votes
-Pilate gets another vote
-Absalom picks up the magical mystery vote from Lazarus
-Two votes suddenly come in for Jacob now that things are pretty spread out and it looks like the Ruth wagon lost its mojo
-Rachel votes to keep Ruth 2 votes ahead of her
-Jacob votes to keep Rachel close to Ruth
-Ruth votes Absalom in the hopes of Lazarus being the Walrus
-Then things pick up again for Ruth as we become wary of the Lazarus Theory
Lots of spreading going on with the votes for Rachel, Jacob, and Pilate. Does anyone honestly have a strong positive read on any of the following:
-Deborah
-Esther
-Isaac
-Jacob
-Jonathan
-Mordecai
-Rahab
-Rebecca
I bet there are two Heathens in that list. But who?
3) While it would be a bummer to lose out on Elijah's fireworks display, there's still a chance we've got our resident spear-chucker out there. Perhaps we can come to consensus on a runner-up to be skewered?
4) It seems to me that Judah and Mlachus have abandoned the game. Anyone got reason to believe they're threatening their P-Score to play out a slothful yet nefarious Heathen plot?
My question for you is why does him not being around Day 0 incriminate him?Esther wrote:Alright folks. I know I have been mostly quiet. But like I said, I am an observer in the beginning of full games. I think I can now come forth with my first true suspicion. Pilate.
His behavior in the thread has lead me to reread his posts from start to finish (which didn't take very long actually).
First of all, he missed Day 0 entirely - didn't post, didn't vote. He comes in Day 1 and says he didn't realize the game had started. So, for over 48 hours he was oblivious that the game had started? Unlikely. He comes in on Day 1 and is the 6th person to vote altogether, but first to vote for Uzziah. Well, Uzz was bad you say? Yes, but Uzz had no votes at the time. Lot had 1 vote at the time, Samuel had 2. I see Pilate's Day 1 vote for a teammate as trying to gain civ cred.
Day 2 - Says if he would have he would have voted Marth Day 2 (but he couldn't 'cause she was then dead). In the same post he says he is still suspicious of Uzz and will probably vote him, but ends up voting Job (Uzz' rival) instead.
Day 3 - misses vote entirely
Day 4 - Votes Rachel. He quotes a case made from Belshazzar and jumps on that train. However, the case that Belsh made wasn't very convincing enough for anyone else or even for Belsh himself as he voted Uzz that day (Belsh did, I mean). I think Pilate was just looking for something to grasp onto so he could keep from voting his own beloved Uzz.
This is where my suspicion of Pilate began. This post here made me look into him in the first place. It looks like he is trying to hard to apologize for not being helpful to the cause of getting baddies.Pilate wrote:I'm shocked that I don't have more suspicion by now. So this is the life of an unforgivably low poster.
Day 5 - Pilate talks about how he'd been MIA. He wonders where the suspicion of Rachel went.
Pilate wrote:Uzziah has no reason at all to think I'm Civ, unless he's bad.
These quote stands out to me. He admits his behavior thus far should be seen as baddie behavior. I think that he thinks by admitting this we will think he is civ, but not me. And I think he uses the first quote to distance from Uzz again as he is the first to vote for him and the first to vote altogether if you don't count host/non/dead option. It bit him in the ass, however when people began to follow his crazy behavior and Uzz got the most votes that day.Pilate wrote:How could anyone "read" me as Civ with the way I've been playing. Hardly here, and when I am here, I say sketchy things.
Day 6 - Now he just plays dumb.
AND...he votes for Absalom, the first to vote for his teammate, Ruth.Pilate wrote:What happened to the night? We lynched Uzziah, and went straight into another lynch?
Pilate will most likely get my vote today.
Day 3 is very incriminating in my opinion.Absalom wrote:Your voting record.Jonathan wrote:I am not bad. What would make you think I am?Absalom wrote:Jonathan, why are you so bad?
Day 1: You were the 5th vote for Samson, when it was safe and obvious thta no one else was going to get lynched.
Day 2: The third vote for Uzziah, after 7 votes were on Cain. A safe cover vote on a teammate.
Day 3: The second vote for Lazarus when Uzziah had three. You wanted to lynch Uzziah the day before. Here was your chance, but you voted for someone else.
Day 4: The 8th vote for Job. Safe and bandwagony.
Day 5: The 4th vote for Uzziah. Now that it is clear he's going down, might as well join in.
Day 6: The first vote for Jacob after Ruth had four. This is your least incriminating vote. I think you just wanted to stay away from what was going down.
I caught Ruth using her voting record. I'll catch you the same way.
What does this last line mean?Jonathan wrote:Each of those votes was a reasonable vote on the day of the vote. You pointed out I voted Uzziah 4th - that was well before it was obvious he was going to take the day. I also voted him another day because I was suspicious of him. Did you read my posts? Did you see what I was thinking about uzziah? I would bet that you didn't.
You may have caught Ruth and you may get me lynched which will convince some people that are on the fence about you where your allegiance lies.
Absalom is trying to lynch a civ is what I mean which is not likely to be good for him.Rachel wrote:What does this last line mean?Jonathan wrote:Each of those votes was a reasonable vote on the day of the vote. You pointed out I voted Uzziah 4th - that was well before it was obvious he was going to take the day. I also voted him another day because I was suspicious of him. Did you read my posts? Did you see what I was thinking about uzziah? I would bet that you didn't.
You may have caught Ruth and you may get me lynched which will convince some people that are on the fence about you where your allegiance lies.
So yo uthink Absalom is bad?Jonathan wrote:Absalom is trying to lynch a civ is what I mean which is not likely to be good for him.Rachel wrote:What does this last line mean?Jonathan wrote:Each of those votes was a reasonable vote on the day of the vote. You pointed out I voted Uzziah 4th - that was well before it was obvious he was going to take the day. I also voted him another day because I was suspicious of him. Did you read my posts? Did you see what I was thinking about uzziah? I would bet that you didn't.
You may have caught Ruth and you may get me lynched which will convince some people that are on the fence about you where your allegiance lies.
1.To the first underlined, why? Why look for that patter.Mordecai wrote:Going over the votes, 3 things caught my eye. When I do these vote analysis('s)(ses)(?) I look for people who consistently vote together, odd drop offs in votes after a lynch, and after somebody comes up mafia, players who voted with said baddie throughout the game numerous times.
Deborah and Balaam voted together until day 4, where Deborah submitted a vote for herself. Voted Cain day 1 and 2. Mary Magdalene on day 3.
Malchus voted with Cain for Absalom Day 1. Malchus then voted Cain day 2. Disappeared from votes entirely after Cain was lynched as a civ.
Uzziah and Rachel voted for Job Day 2. Voted together on Job day 3 again. First two votes on Day 4 for Job subsequently. Rachel flips on Uzziah Day 5.
The people I am going to dig into following this post, are Malchus, Rachel, and Deborah. Another thing that has been bothering me this whole game though that I've been keeping my mouth shut about, are all these people that come in here every single day phase with the same opener of "Sorry I've been gone! Catching up now!". One time is fine whatever. But doing it basically every day? I dont like it. I find it telling of paranoia, that people find it necessary to constantly explain away their absence even when not asked. Like they're afraid of always being watched. Unless you're a millionaire that sits at home all day, or unemployed, nobody can be here 24/7. Everybody has lives. I work 8-12 hour days 5-6 days a week. I post when I can. I dont feel like I owe anybody an explanation though, aside from when I justify my short posts because my phone is a piece of shit.
Gonna try and go back through the thread tonight to connect my voting notes to some dots.
I read Cain's posts, and thought he was bad. He wasn't. I read Balaam's posts and apparently came to the wrong conclusion about him. I based my case on Ruth solely on voting record and I caught a baddie. I'm taking the voting analysis approach for now. Besides, I did read your posts. I think your mentions of Uzziah are wishy washy and don't mean anything.Jonathan wrote:I've looked at my past thoughts about Absalom and can't find anything that's a baddie read for me. But I know not everyone agrees with me on that. If he's good I don't know why he has chosen to attack me without reading my posts. There is a running diary of why I voted some people and not others and Uzziah is mentioned throughout the days - maybe not everyday I haven't checked that but his name pops up a lot in my thoughts about the game. He would get a fuller perspective if he would consider the two in concert.
I can see Jonathan being a good lynch candidate but I think Pilate is better. I've got a feelin' I'm not the only one.Absalom wrote:Your voting record.Jonathan wrote:I am not bad. What would make you think I am?Absalom wrote:Jonathan, why are you so bad?
Day 1: You were the 5th vote for Samson, when it was safe and obvious thta no one else was going to get lynched.
Day 2: The third vote for Uzziah, after 7 votes were on Cain. A safe cover vote on a teammate.
Day 3: The second vote for Lazarus when Uzziah had three. You wanted to lynch Uzziah the day before. Here was your chance, but you voted for someone else.
Day 4: The 8th vote for Job. Safe and bandwagony.
Day 5: The 4th vote for Uzziah. Now that it is clear he's going down, might as well join in.
Day 6: The first vote for Jacob after Ruth had four. This is your least incriminating vote. I think you just wanted to stay away from what was going down.
I caught Ruth using her voting record. I'll catch you the same way.
So Jacob, lets have some fun.Jacob wrote:Hmm, not sure where I stand on Jonathan. I still feel like I can trust Absalom but I don't necessarily trust his gut, and Jon's defenses read genuine and again I'm afraid he's in a similar boat as I was... Idk, I could see him either way. I don't really like that he's no-u'ing on Abs though.
Pilate though. Pilate is not looking good. Wtf even was that last post of his? So weird.
What accusations? The accusation that if you lynch me you'll be sorry? That accusation is downright true unless you're not a civ after all.Absalom wrote:I read Cain's posts, and thought he was bad. He wasn't. I read Balaam's posts and apparently came to the wrong conclusion about him. I based my case on Ruth solely on voting record and I caught a baddie. I'm taking the voting analysis approach for now. Besides, I did read your posts. I think your mentions of Uzziah are wishy washy and don't mean anything.Jonathan wrote:I've looked at my past thoughts about Absalom and can't find anything that's a baddie read for me. But I know not everyone agrees with me on that. If he's good I don't know why he has chosen to attack me without reading my posts. There is a running diary of why I voted some people and not others and Uzziah is mentioned throughout the days - maybe not everyday I haven't checked that but his name pops up a lot in my thoughts about the game. He would get a fuller perspective if he would consider the two in concert.
If you'd look at MY voting record, you'd see that your accusations against me are misguided at best and those of an evildoer at worst.
1. In a recent game, I caught 4/5 mafia by looking for that. They had a little bit of distance, but there was always something that kept them all connected regardless of what day it was. Employing that tactic has favored me as of late, but unfortunately it isn't trul worth anything until a baddie is killed. Otherwise it's just wild speculation.Jephthah wrote:
1.To the first underlined, why? Why look for that patter.
2. To the second underlined sentence. While he says he's going to follow this post with analysis on all pepople he mentions, he doesn't.
I didn't get much on her so far. Recurrent suspicions (or even votes) on Jeph, on whose flipping Day 1 she built a rather in-depth read on. First to vote Mary on Day 3 - poorly so, as well, simply latching to my objection, so that's a trigger right now, considering that Uzziah's save on that Day is partially confirmed.Rachel wrote:Belsh, what make you of Rebecca?
I don't think we would find out the alignment of Phineas' victim, since Phineas himself won't be made aware. Would ninja killing a Heathen be the same as stoning a Heathen, i.e. Night phase be skipped again? Not sure on that, but I'm inclined to think the answer is no and, thus, we would not find out if the choice was right, even if we create consensus and Phineas would comply.Balaam wrote:3) While it would be a bummer to lose out on Elijah's fireworks display, there's still a chance we've got our resident spear-chucker out there. Perhaps we can come to consensus on a runner-up to be skewered?
So why would lynching you have any bearing on Absalom's alignment?Jonathan wrote:I've looked at my past thoughts about Absalom and can't find anything that's a baddie read for me. But I know not everyone agrees with me on that. If he's good I don't know why he has chosen to attack me without reading my posts. There is a running diary of why I voted some people and not others and Uzziah is mentioned throughout the days - maybe not everyday I haven't checked that but his name pops up a lot in my thoughts about the game. He would get a fuller perspective if he would consider the two in concert.
I found it weird that she came out against Ruth and voted me in the same post. She didn't present much of a reason to vote for me, but plenty of reason to vote Ruth.Belshazzar wrote:I didn't get much on her so far. Recurrent suspicions (or even votes) on Jeph, on whose flipping Day 1 she built a rather in-depth read on. First to vote Mary on Day 3 - poorly so, as well, simply latching to my objection, so that's a trigger right now, considering that Uzziah's save on that Day is partially confirmed.Rachel wrote:Belsh, what make you of Rebecca?
Yesterday she came with the hypothesis that Ruth bussed Uzziah Day 5, which turns out to have been true - this would normally make think it can't possibly be a Heathen bussing a Heathen that bussed a Heathen, it would be too dumb of them; then again, she dropped her idea on Ruth and reverted to voting you in the same post. Still, don't think I'm close to a conclusion whether she's bad or not.
I only read her posts again, so let me know if there's anything else I should (re)consider.
Sorry I missed this. Maybe I worded that wrong. Lynching me could have a bearing on his perceived alignment in that I am good and it could/would be seen as a black mark on his record. Maybe I'm wrong though. Maybe when I flip civ if I'm lynched people will forgive him for getting it wrong. I just don't want anyone to be able to say "she should have defended herself more".Rachel wrote:So why would lynching you have any bearing on Absalom's alignment?Jonathan wrote:I've looked at my past thoughts about Absalom and can't find anything that's a baddie read for me. But I know not everyone agrees with me on that. If he's good I don't know why he has chosen to attack me without reading my posts. There is a running diary of why I voted some people and not others and Uzziah is mentioned throughout the days - maybe not everyday I haven't checked that but his name pops up a lot in my thoughts about the game. He would get a fuller perspective if he would consider the two in concert.
Is that why everyone lynched me after being so wrong about Job?Jonathan wrote:Sorry I missed this. Maybe I worded that wrong. Lynching me could have a bearing on his perceived alignment in that I am good and it could/would be seen as a black mark on his record. Maybe I'm wrong though. Maybe when I flip civ if I'm lynched people will forgive him for getting it wrong. I just don't want anyone to be able to say "she should have defended herself more".Rachel wrote:So why would lynching you have any bearing on Absalom's alignment?Jonathan wrote:I've looked at my past thoughts about Absalom and can't find anything that's a baddie read for me. But I know not everyone agrees with me on that. If he's good I don't know why he has chosen to attack me without reading my posts. There is a running diary of why I voted some people and not others and Uzziah is mentioned throughout the days - maybe not everyday I haven't checked that but his name pops up a lot in my thoughts about the game. He would get a fuller perspective if he would consider the two in concert.
So that means that voting you might make people think he isn't civvie?Jonathan wrote:I'm not implying they can't. I've been wrong this game and I'm a civ. But if he votes for me he is wrong on this round.
It's not a defense. It's just the truth. I already defended my voting.Rachel wrote:I don't understand how that's a defense?
Yes but that's the point of blending in as a baddie. Make each vote seem sensible on each day. We're talking macro now- the big picture. Taking it day by day, sure it looks okay. But looking at it as a whole compared with the moves of two confirmed Heathens, it looks very fishy.Jonathan wrote:Each of those votes was a reasonable vote on the day of the vote. You pointed out I voted Uzziah 4th - that was well before it was obvious he was going to take the day. I also voted him another day because I was suspicious of him. Did you read my posts? Did you see what I was thinking about uzziah? I would bet that you didn't.
You may have caught Ruth and you may get me lynched which will convince some people that are on the fence about you where your allegiance lies.
Flattery gets you nowhere. Trying to set me up to go down with you gets you lynched.Jonathan wrote:Absalom, after the day I voted for Uzziah Balaam theorized Uzziah was just messing with us and i took note of that observation because I have through the whole game listened to Balaam. Below is my post right before I voted. I had decided to back of Uzziah and try to get a better grip on him.
Jonathan wrote:After giving more though to a Uzziah vote again today I have decided to wait and give that another day or two to develop. He has been silent today (at least I didn't see anything from him) but I don't know if he is laying low or legitimately silenced. I have chosen to go with Lazarus today for the reasons that Mordecai and Balaam brought up today. One thing that does concern me is that maybe he has been silenced but I'm going to take the risk in his case.
I wasn't really worried on the knowing aspect of it. We wouldn't know. But we could kill someone we don't like.Belshazzar wrote:I don't think we would find out the alignment of Phineas' victim, since Phineas himself won't be made aware. Would ninja killing a Heathen be the same as stoning a Heathen, i.e. Night phase be skipped again? Not sure on that, but I'm inclined to think the answer is no and, thus, we would not find out if the choice was right, even if we create consensus and Phineas would comply.Balaam wrote:3) While it would be a bummer to lose out on Elijah's fireworks display, there's still a chance we've got our resident spear-chucker out there. Perhaps we can come to consensus on a runner-up to be skewered?