The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:44 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:43 pm When I say confirmed town, I mean that it's very very specific scenarios that would make them not confirmed.

Like Tutu being immune to all investigations.
Kyle lying about everything and literally hard bussing Ted with a red check and shooting Nanook.
Jpic being a part of a 2 people scum team AND not taking the shot.
Me doing voodoo magic or whatever.
LC lying to nail Ted and keep lying in order to confirm actual town.

^Really unlikely any of this is what is actually happening. Especially the bottom 4 here.

Sorry tutuu!

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:44 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:44 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:43 pm how was HK spewed over the mech cleared towns

i dont think HK dying makes any sense + he was gonna tunnel my ass and mafia knows im a villager

so did syn kill HK coz HK was on syn's ass or what?
He was tracked not killing anyone remember

but he had a passive disruption personal shield i dunno

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:45 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:13 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:11 pmDon’t be sorry. I had a sleepless night worrying that i’ll spend most of today defending myself, so that’s a relief

How come you can roleblock?
I accepted Alisons bargain.

But the wording of it was very ominous. I'm seriously expecting all bargainees to die once Alison achieves her wincon or if she is killed... Maybe I'm overly paranoid, but that would be in line with 3p roles here at cindy kate. I've seen some really dangerous ones.

that would be terrible from a setup design perspective. You'd be violating the flavor of the original role and adding a huge amount of swing to the game for no reason

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:45 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:44 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:43 pm When I say confirmed town, I mean that it's very very specific scenarios that would make them not confirmed.

Like Tutu being immune to all investigations.
Kyle lying about everything and literally hard bussing Ted with a red check and shooting Nanook.
Jpic being a part of a 2 people scum team AND not taking the shot.
Me doing voodoo magic or whatever.
LC lying to nail Ted and keep lying in order to confirm actual town.

^Really unlikely any of this is what is actually happening. Especially the bottom 4 here.
Sorry tutuu!

WOWWWW ME BEING A BROKEN GODFATHER IS THE MOST LIKELY T_T

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:45 pm**

Syn was tracked?

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:45 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:43 pm how was HK spewed over the mech cleared towns

i dont think HK dying makes any sense + he was gonna tunnel my ass and mafia knows im a villager

so did syn kill HK coz HK was on syn's ass or what?

HK was tracked going nowhere.

(Literally every dead scum spewed Thunal/HK town to the moon and back. I went over ISOs last day phase, and that was my firm conclusion in almost all of them)

It's a bit of a weird kill anyway, maybe yeah. I expected me to die tbh. Maybe just doc dodge.

I think Syn and Michelle could both decide to kill HK.

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:46 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:44 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:44 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:43 pm how was HK spewed over the mech cleared towns

i dont think HK dying makes any sense + he was gonna tunnel my ass and mafia knows im a villager

so did syn kill HK coz HK was on syn's ass or what?
He was tracked not killing anyone remember
but he had a passive disruption personal shield i dunno

He said he didn’t use and mafia have no reason to not believe him

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:46 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:45 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:13 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:11 pmDon’t be sorry. I had a sleepless night worrying that i’ll spend most of today defending myself, so that’s a relief

How come you can roleblock?
I accepted Alisons bargain.

But the wording of it was very ominous. I'm seriously expecting all bargainees to die once Alison achieves her wincon or if she is killed... Maybe I'm overly paranoid, but that would be in line with 3p roles here at cindy kate. I've seen some really dangerous ones.
that would be terrible from a setup design perspective. You'd be violating the flavor of the original role and adding a huge amount of swing to the game for no reason

I still trust you.

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:46 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:45 pmWOWWWW ME BEING A BROKEN GODFATHER IS THE MOST LIKELY T_T

I actually think it is the most likely. xD
But that just means none of them are likely.

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:46 pm**

yea ok its syn and/or michelle

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:47 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:45 pmthat would be terrible from a setup design perspective. You'd be violating the flavor of the original role and adding a huge amount of swing to the game for no reason

I trust you 90 % actually.

I'm also not terribly bothered if we somehow end up losing to a 3p role like that. It would be really really boring, but I would just have setup salt and move on =p

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:48 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:45 pm Syn was tracked?

wut

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:48 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:27 pm I'm questioning whether yeeting Alison is a good idea.

@Michelle Did you ever role claim btw?

you accepted my bargain last day phase so you'd be yeeting yourself. I've townsided up the ass and done nothing to help scum other than give ted a bargain (who I didnt know was scum). Leave me alone.

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:49 pm**

oh lol the bargain yeeting deflection works retroactively

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:49 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:48 pmyou accepted my bargain last day phase so you'd be yeeting yourself. I've townsided up the ass and done nothing to help scum other than give ted a bargain (who I didnt know was scum). Leave me alone.

Yeah, fine.

I'm not trying to be difficult =(

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:50 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:37 pm syn gets to SHOOT tonight

what do we do guys

POE is alison - michelle - syn right? (mechanically speaking)

45 posts since i last checked so this is probably answered already

but I do not get to shoot tonight

I do not keep abilities beyond the immediately following night of the chop

Tim's gun was not charged, so I did not get it

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:50 pm**

so alison's role is like lowkey immortal - deflects votes and deflects night actions. if she is evil and makes everyone die when having so much protection - thats rly broken - compare it to 112's role that also made everyone die but she had 0 protection. so alison probably neutral and not evil

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:51 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:50 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:37 pm syn gets to SHOOT tonight

what do we do guys

POE is alison - michelle - syn right? (mechanically speaking)
45 posts since i last checked so this is probably answered already

but I do not get to shoot tonight

I do not keep abilities beyond the immediately following night of the chop

Tim's gun was not charged, so I did not get it

awww shietttt

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:51 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:48 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:45 pm Syn was tracked?
wut

Never mind, I misunderstood tutuu who was referring to HK, not Syn.

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:51 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:43 pm how was HK spewed over the mech cleared towns

i dont think HK dying makes any sense + he was gonna tunnel my ass and mafia knows im a villager

so did syn kill HK coz HK was on syn's ass or what?

i hate "if i were a wolf" arguments but if I were a wolf, I would have delayed tim's chop until today so that I could get an extra NK

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:52 pm**

I don't mean to be pissy with you; it's just that I've been fully cooperative, honest and transparent throughout the game. I fully intend to townside, esp since LC has gone above and beyond in trying to help me fulfil my win con (which would be pretty thematic for gambit demon given how the first one panned out). At any rate, because you accepted my bargain yesterday (and got a green check off it too), any votes made on me will be redirected to you, so yeah, exeing me isn't a great idea here. Someone's still submitting NKs so it isn't a case of "we have to exe the 3P to win" - go find whoever's doing it, exe them, and both town and I win. Everyone's happy.

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:52 pm**

@Alison do you stop being able to give powers once you've won

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:52 pm**

ok u rite lets get michelle she maf i swear

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:53 pm**

I think basically if the game not being over was specificallyt because of Alison then we wouldn't still be seeing mafia kills

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:54 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:52 pm @Alison do you stop being able to give powers once you've won

idk, but I don't have any townsided powers left to give anyway. I'm fairly sure your role theft on me will still work.

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:54 pm**

if we exe mafia in syn/michelle here and i dont accept alison's deal and the game ends does she win or not @Alison

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:54 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:43 pm Who did Syn give a rolecheck to?

I'm waiting to see if they reveal

which they aren't, for some reason

they are alive and have posted quite a bit already

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:54 pm**

I'm basically voting alison today no matter what to give out a second track, but I'm worried if tutuu accepts her deal that might jeopardize that

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:54 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:43 pm Who did Syn give a rolecheck to?
I'm waiting to see if they reveal

which they aren't, for some reason

they are alive and have posted quite a bit already

i dont have a rolecheck if u gave it to me

how did u even get a rolecheck where'd that come from

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:55 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:52 pm I don't mean to be pissy with you; it's just that I've been fully cooperative, honest and transparent throughout the game. I fully intend to townside, esp since LC has gone above and beyond in trying to help me fulfil my win con (which would be pretty thematic for gambit demon given how the first one panned out). At any rate, because you accepted my bargain yesterday (and got a green check off it too), any votes made on me will be redirected to you, so yeah, exeing me isn't a great idea here. Someone's still submitting NKs so it isn't a case of "we have to exe the 3P to win" - go find whoever's doing it, exe them, and both town and I win. Everyone's happy.

Yeah, I think this is the case.

The only reason I'm talking about this is that I played a 3p much in the same way, fully cooperative throughout the whole game from my first post, until I killed half the game towards the end. =p

But I still won with town that game, I think.

But you are right. Someone is still doing NKs. Six mafia makes the most sense here. Two evil 3ps and a big mafia team in one game seems broken. I'm cool with this idea.

And thank you for all powers ^^

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:55 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:54 pm I'm basically voting alison today no matter what to give out a second track, but I'm worried if tutuu accepts her deal that might jeopardize that

umm ask? i dunno

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:55 pm**

I have not received a rolecheck

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:56 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:54 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:43 pm Who did Syn give a rolecheck to?
I'm waiting to see if they reveal

which they aren't, for some reason

they are alive and have posted quite a bit already
i dont have a rolecheck if u gave it to me

how did u even get a rolecheck where'd that come from

wiggity wooster

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:56 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:43 pm Who did Syn give a rolecheck to?
I'm waiting to see if they reveal

which they aren't, for some reason

they are alive and have posted quite a bit already

I missed this. Do you want to say who it is? Maybe they have a moot result or something else is going on, idk.

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:57 pm**

wait

what ominous message from alison's role? i just realize i also received it

and i shouldnt copy paste it, but paraphrased, it just tells me that if i accept it it will come with price

thats not that ominous imo, like we already know the price right? (votes being redirected and night actions being redirected from her to me)

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:57 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:54 pm I'm basically voting alison today no matter what to give out a second track, but I'm worried if tutuu accepts her deal that might jeopardize that

You actually can't do this

I redirect votes to dizzy, so you'd be stealing dizzy's power

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:57 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:57 pm wait

what ominous message from alison's role? i just realize i also received it

and i shouldnt copy paste it, but paraphrased, it just tells me that if i accept it it will come with price

thats not that ominous imo, like we already know the price right? (votes being redirected and night actions being redirected from her to me)

I guess you are not as paranoid as me?

I found that highly ominous lol.

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:57 pm**

I gave Dyslexicon a role check N7 for use during N8

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:58 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:57 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:57 pm wait

what ominous message from alison's role? i just realize i also received it

and i shouldnt copy paste it, but paraphrased, it just tells me that if i accept it it will come with price

thats not that ominous imo, like we already know the price right? (votes being redirected and night actions being redirected from her to me)
I guess you are not as paranoid as me?

I found that highly ominous lol.

lolol u just paranoid cuz u cute

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:58 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:57 pm I gave Dyslexicon a role check N7 for use during N8

Uhhhh no? At least I didn't get one.

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:00 pm**

Seriously, what's up with everything pertaining to me getting all messed up here? Maybe Michelle's power is redirection or messing with actions somehow?

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:01 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:58 pmlolol u just paranoid cuz u cute

You said that before we yeeted town!Tim =(

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:02 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:00 pm Seriously, what's up with everything pertaining to me getting all messed up here? Maybe Michelle's power is redirection or messing with actions somehow?

apart from syn's claimed rolecop not reaching u are there any other mechanical mysteries for this phase? we cleared up the long con thing coz kyle stole from lc right?

wait also. why would jpic be told that he was roleblocked when he doesnt even have an action lolol. well i guess its a loud roleblock

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:02 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:01 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:58 pmlolol u just paranoid cuz u cute
You said that before we yeeted town!Tim =(

LOL

to be FAIR

he tried to kill nothing but villagers and he tried pretty hard :P

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:03 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:02 pmLOL

to be FAIR

he tried to kill nothing but villagers and he tried pretty hard :P

That is very fair. =p

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:04 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:02 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:00 pm Seriously, what's up with everything pertaining to me getting all messed up here? Maybe Michelle's power is redirection or messing with actions somehow?
apart from syn's claimed rolecop not reaching u are there any other mechanical mysteries for this phase? we cleared up the long con thing coz kyle stole from lc right?

wait also. why would jpic be told that he was roleblocked when he doesnt even have an action lolol. well i guess its a loud roleblock

I technically do have an action I just don’t visit people

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:04 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:02 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:00 pm Seriously, what's up with everything pertaining to me getting all messed up here? Maybe Michelle's power is redirection or messing with actions somehow?
apart from syn's claimed rolecop not reaching u are there any other mechanical mysteries for this phase? we cleared up the long con thing coz kyle stole from lc right?

wait also. why would jpic be told that he was roleblocked when he doesnt even have an action lolol. well i guess its a loud roleblock

if Dizzy did not receive the role check, then I was blocked N7

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:04 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:02 pmapart from syn's claimed rolecop not reaching u are there any other mechanical mysteries for this phase? we cleared up the long con thing coz kyle stole from lc right?

wait also. why would jpic be told that he was roleblocked when he doesnt even have an action lolol. well i guess its a loud roleblock

Well, I always make sure people hear me coming.

And um.. no. It's just that Wilgy got my result from investigating Michelle. But that could pertain to Michelle rather than me. Maybe that's part of her passive ability?

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:05 pm**

I'm sorry, I didn't get it. Don't know what happened. But there are lots of things I don't know this game.

But I'm starting to think it's just Michelle. Nothing else makes sense.

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:06 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:04 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:02 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:00 pm Seriously, what's up with everything pertaining to me getting all messed up here? Maybe Michelle's power is redirection or messing with actions somehow?
apart from syn's claimed rolecop not reaching u are there any other mechanical mysteries for this phase? we cleared up the long con thing coz kyle stole from lc right?

wait also. why would jpic be told that he was roleblocked when he doesnt even have an action lolol. well i guess its a loud roleblock
if Dizzy did not receive the role check, then I was blocked N7

Did you not get a pm saying your actioned failed? Cuz i did

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