The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:50 pm You guys are gonna make me claim, aren't you?

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:51 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:50 pm You guys are gonna make me claim, aren't you?

i mean, considering wolves have fake claims, no

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:51 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:50 pm You guys are gonna make me claim, aren't you?

i mean, considering wolves have fake claims, no

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:51 pm Wait

Are you gonna claim mason or are you gonna claim cop with a N0 green

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:51 pm Fuck it idc

Moving to sprit

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:53 pm is it common knowledge that wolves have fake claims

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:17 pm Standard Jack Rules

6) Anti town players get fake claims if applicable.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:53 pm I don't got it but okay

Wisp wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:52 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:51 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:50 pm You guys are gonna make me claim, aren't you?

i mean, considering wolves have fake claims, no

???

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:54 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:53 pm is it common knowledge that wolves have fake claims

Yeh it’s in the OP

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:53 pm I don't got it but okay

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:55 pm Guys if you think LC might be town FG is not the correct vote to save him

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:14 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:26 pm

Spoiler: show

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:36 pm @Long Con what is your read on Epignosis?

Monday he was mostly mechanics and jokes. Questions Nanook's townlean on him, nothing much to work with.
Tuesday he calls you out for not posting... I think that happened in a recent game or something? Were you scum in that? I forget. Still pretty level 0 null read.
Throws a vote on Colin the nonposter, which doesn't really impress me with towniness, I guess it's an extension of the mindset that called you out earlier. Still mostly banter.
Town read on Nanook, pretty uncontroversial, some issue I have with all of Kitsu's reads.

Says Nanook is unlynchable on Day 1.

I don't like that. I don't know if town Epignosis just accepts someone being unlynchable, let alone proposes it. I expect an "I'll lynch anyone, any day, if I think they're bad, and if you don't like it, stick it" attitude from Epignosis, so this rings fake on a reread.

"Alison has a 23 posts to 0 instances of the word "pure" ratio." Half joke, half possibly-apt analysis. I like this post a little more than I disliked the last one.

His response to the sauces is okayish. Toe the party line on town reads, and question the ones with less aggressive early solving, maybe?

Questions FG's post in a pretty neutral way. Feels like he should have something more to say, or at least engage with it a little more. Is it an FG suspicion?

Tosses bad reads on low posters in GTH, the only mildly interesting call is his bad on FG, which I guess is based on the line above this one. More funnygurl shade soon follows, for posting but "saying nothing".

Then he votes for DrWilgy, which is, as I said yesterday when looking over Wilgy's meagre ISO, super-weak. What happened to the almost 100% funnygurl-only suspicion line? Was that just for w/w show?

Epignosis is not a town read.

The color coding here indicates my interpretation of the level of suspicion you are voicing for Epignosis (trust is green, null is yellow, suspicion is orange, at varying levels). It's not clear what inspired you to make the declaration at the bottom there given a pretty tame review above it.

Wisp wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:56 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:55 pm Guys if you think LC might be town FG is not the correct vote to save him

why? look how they are handling EoD? I don't get it
am I missing something?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:57 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:14 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:26 pm

Spoiler: show

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:36 pm @Long Con what is your read on Epignosis?

Monday he was mostly mechanics and jokes. Questions Nanook's townlean on him, nothing much to work with.
Tuesday he calls you out for not posting... I think that happened in a recent game or something? Were you scum in that? I forget. Still pretty level 0 null read.
Throws a vote on Colin the nonposter, which doesn't really impress me with towniness, I guess it's an extension of the mindset that called you out earlier. Still mostly banter.
Town read on Nanook, pretty uncontroversial, some issue I have with all of Kitsu's reads.

Says Nanook is unlynchable on Day 1.

I don't like that. I don't know if town Epignosis just accepts someone being unlynchable, let alone proposes it. I expect an "I'll lynch anyone, any day, if I think they're bad, and if you don't like it, stick it" attitude from Epignosis, so this rings fake on a reread.

"Alison has a 23 posts to 0 instances of the word "pure" ratio." Half joke, half possibly-apt analysis. I like this post a little more than I disliked the last one.

His response to the sauces is okayish. Toe the party line on town reads, and question the ones with less aggressive early solving, maybe?

Questions FG's post in a pretty neutral way. Feels like he should have something more to say, or at least engage with it a little more. Is it an FG suspicion?

Tosses bad reads on low posters in GTH, the only mildly interesting call is his bad on FG, which I guess is based on the line above this one. More funnygurl shade soon follows, for posting but "saying nothing".

Then he votes for DrWilgy, which is, as I said yesterday when looking over Wilgy's meagre ISO, super-weak. What happened to the almost 100% funnygurl-only suspicion line? Was that just for w/w show?

Epignosis is not a town read.

The color coding here indicates my interpretation of the level of suspicion you are voicing for Epignosis (trust is green, null is yellow, suspicion is orange, at varying levels). It's not clear what inspired you to make the declaration at the bottom there given a pretty tame review above it.

I don't think JJJ has ever defended me to this extent. I might shed a tear.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:57 pm I have seen nothing to indicate to me that LC is town sorry. If there's some weird shit going on wrt claims or whatever I suggest you make it more clear to me.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:57 pm Like c’mon if LC is possibly town saving him by killing FG instead of sprit doesnt make much sense given FG’s hard defense of LC

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:58 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:57 pm Like c’mon if LC is possibly town saving him by killing FG instead of sprit doesnt make much sense given FG’s hard defense of LC

how about FG TMI defending the dead meat civilian

They're not masons, certainly. Long Con's treatment of her is not mason.

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:58 pm how much time do we have

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:59 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:58 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:57 pm Like c’mon if LC is possibly town saving him by killing FG instead of sprit doesnt make much sense given FG’s hard defense of LC

how about FG TMI defending the dead meat civilian

They're not masons, certainly. Long Con's treatment of her is not mason.

if you think i'm scum then vote for me

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:00 pm The two options right now should be LC or Sprit

Please trust me that it doesn’t make sense to save LC by killing FG, and I promise I’ll explain later when there’s not 15 minutes to EOD and a toddler that needs to go to bed

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:58 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:57 pm Like c’mon if LC is possibly town saving him by killing FG instead of sprit doesnt make much sense given FG’s hard defense of LC

how about FG TMI defending the dead meat civilian

They're not masons, certainly. Long Con's treatment of her is not mason.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:00 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:59 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:58 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:57 pm Like c’mon if LC is possibly town saving him by killing FG instead of sprit doesnt make much sense given FG’s hard defense of LC

how about FG TMI defending the dead meat civilian

They're not masons, certainly. Long Con's treatment of her is not mason.

if you think i'm scum then vote for me

you literally just forced me to do that

[VOTE: Funnygurl555] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:00 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:00 pm The two options right now should be LC or Sprit

Please trust me that it doesn’t make sense to save LC by killing FG, and I promise I’ll explain later when there’s not 15 minutes to EOD and a toddler that needs to go to bed

But your mechanical analysis excludes one important factor: love.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:00 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:00 pm The two options right now should be LC or Sprit

Please trust me that it doesn’t make sense to save LC by killing FG, and I promise I’ll explain later when there’s not 15 minutes to EOD and a toddler that needs to go to bed

But your mechanical analysis excludes one important factor: love.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:37 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:36 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:26 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:59 pm[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

He yelled obnoxiously about the concern I stated regarding his 9:1 good:bad GTH reads ratio. He has treated me like confirmed mafia and refused to budge a hair without talking to me on the level about any of it.

Epignosis ripped LC for the same 9:1 ratio. LC responded to that with a joke about KitsuShel’s username.

LC’s suspicion of me is fake. It is driven by an agenda to challenge me and disrupt the game state I have helped to construct.

First of all, Epignosis asked a question. He didn't even accuse me of anything or try to put suspicion on me. There is not much similarity between your two posts except that they both discuss my GTH

I think this point is an important one, so I went back to get a closer look. The two comments in question:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:54 pm

• The "winner" of the Who Gave the Most Good Reads? sweepstakes is Long Con, at least by proportion. Otherwise it's me, but we don't care about that. No, no, we don't care about that. Unless @Long Con has multiple mafia reads among the four he missed, then there is a considerable shortage of suspicion there. That's not great, as I don't see much in his post history to this point that suggests to me he should have developed such a comfortable view of the game state.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:22 pm I don't put much stock in this exercise either, but LC has one "bad" and it's Kitsushel? Over Colin and Wilgy?

Where you're right: Epignosis did not explicitly accuse you, and I did.

Where [I-think] you're not right: Epignosis did not "try to put suspicion on you". To me, that implication is very clear in Epignosis's question. Indeed, what is the point of asking this question otherwise? Why else would Epi ask it? Consider the preface: I don't put much stock in this exercise either, but...

That is an accusation. And it's the same accusation I made. Your disparate handling of each of them is difficult to see as honest.

Forgive me for considering your point of view on the matter biased, since you really want me to be bad here.

Let's ask Epignosis.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:53 pm I don't got it but okay