The Syndicate

Having a partner to work with overnight is so fucking amazing, even if we can only do anything for a few hours because we're on opposite sides of the world.

Basically, I'm actually reading the game, so Mac's sheeping me a good amount, but I'm pulling the individual posts that I'm basing my reads on for him to judge. He seems to basically just agree with most of what I pull up.

We agreed AH and H&V are town with basically no discussion. I'm not sure what changed Mac's mind either.

Mac hated Nook's EoD, but I thought jules was obvious and I think I kinda sorta convinced him.

Syn's conviction on Tim is kinda towny.

My understanding of JPIC is that he clears himself through sheer force of meld, so I'll basically just sit back and see if his takes are good. So far they're decent. My understanding of TSP is that he, well, doesn't clear himself, so I'm not watching that head too closely.

Completely lost on all the Mana talk.

katze is just plain wolfy. Would it be presumptive of me not to believe them the fifth time they said all their reads were jokes?

I'm willing to shut up about van at some point for thread health reasons, but I'm still not convinced anyone read what I said. I asked Mac to talk me out of my van tunnel and he talked me in further so here we go.

Either
van had a genuine concern over this one instance of me calling one of her arguments bad without calling her wolfy for it, after the entire thread had been doing the exact same thing I did and van never called anyone on it once
or
van was looking for any excuse to bury a townie on the block

Difficult choice.

The whole "okay fine I guess you did the thing but why didn't you do the thing the first time" reeks of searching backwards for justification. Combine with the pettiness of the point itself, combine with how little sense it makes with the rest of van's play, combine with the opportunistic circumstances, and you're left with the fabled "just a wolf" status.

I got to see van's full TSPIC case on catchup and it was more of the same. Calling TSPIC not towny? Sure. Saying JPIC's a wolf for not interacting with her on one specific detail? Bullshit. Just bullshit. Not even a culture clash thing. Again it's a nitpick meant to fuel a case, not a discovery.

AH H&V Julinook
T&B Tim TSPIC
FK Mana Walrus
BT
tr

[VOTE: trans rights] aubergine

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:30 pm You probably have quite a few opinions about my alignment right now, but it's important to remember one thing: you're wrong. Here's why: To start, you're completely missing the point and everything you think is actually at odds with reality when you look at our posts. In fact, you're nowhere close to being accurate. It's simple to understand when you stop for a second and actually look at our ISO. Once you open your eyes, you'll see that you are wrong about each and every one of them. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. What aBouT tHis oTher tHinG I ReAd? No. If the past is any indication of the future, not only is there no chance that you'll be right, all science suggests that you will never even come close once in your lifetime. The only way you'll ever right is to repeat everything I say, word for word to every single person you know. Until then, you're wrong, and I'm a villager.

However, because I am a villager (and lack TMI, as villagers do), I made a fatal error. You see, I claimed to be self resolving, as I thought my role worked slightly differently than it did. This is undeniable proof that I am not burdened with Too Much Information, as I'm a fucking idiot.

Us surviving the rand was due to us being destined by the powers above to be laughed at, as I must embarrassingly write this out instead of us flipping and the error being figured out by the reader. This is okay, because our alignment will be obvious when I send this post. A wolf can't write like I do. Wolves howl, I meow. As such, I will do the equivalent of revealing as an innocent child in my next line. Read carefully, you might miss it.

nya~

hey katze

do you remember umineko?

~mawile

Damn, dunya's life had to exist and delay that promise I made to Nook by half an hour.

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:29 pm so when are you resolving bottom text?

plausibly never

probably at the end of today when i get executed for being an idiot

well anyways let's talk about how bottom text was disappointed in mist for not realizing them being wolfy was obviously because they were some self-resolving pr.

i want to believe that's never a real thought but unfortunately it could be.

kat you need to fullclaim right now

~mawile

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:31 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:30 pm You probably have quite a few opinions about my alignment right now, but it's important to remember one thing: you're wrong. Here's why: To start, you're completely missing the point and everything you think is actually at odds with reality when you look at our posts. In fact, you're nowhere close to being accurate. It's simple to understand when you stop for a second and actually look at our ISO. Once you open your eyes, you'll see that you are wrong about each and every one of them. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. What aBouT tHis oTher tHinG I ReAd? No. If the past is any indication of the future, not only is there no chance that you'll be right, all science suggests that you will never even come close once in your lifetime. The only way you'll ever right is to repeat everything I say, word for word to every single person you know. Until then, you're wrong, and I'm a villager.

However, because I am a villager (and lack TMI, as villagers do), I made a fatal error. You see, I claimed to be self resolving, as I thought my role worked slightly differently than it did. This is undeniable proof that I am not burdened with Too Much Information, as I'm a fucking idiot.

Us surviving the rand was due to us being destined by the powers above to be laughed at, as I must embarrassingly write this out instead of us flipping and the error being figured out by the reader. This is okay, because our alignment will be obvious when I send this post. A wolf can't write like I do. Wolves howl, I meow. As such, I will do the equivalent of revealing as an innocent child in my next line. Read carefully, you might miss it.

nya~

hey katze

do you remember umineko?

~mawile

first one? vaguely, although i don't remember that much of it after i replaced out of it

second one? not much beyond flips

why?

The Walrus wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:46 pm

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:42 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 4:42 pm Both heads of the Walrus making time to converse with each other in thread and doing nothing but whine about post counts while padding theirs is really aggravating.

Don't worry. I'm shooting them tonight.

We don’t believe your role claim. We know you are lying.

don't do this d1 btw

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:32 pm kat you need to fullclaim right now

~mawile

nah

especially don't do that d1 and then not even shoot n1

uughhhhh

If I would of died yesterday I would of retired tbh. Reading polls is not my strongest skill...or maybe reading more generally

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:33 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:31 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:30 pm You probably have quite a few opinions about my alignment right now, but it's important to remember one thing: you're wrong. Here's why: To start, you're completely missing the point and everything you think is actually at odds with reality when you look at our posts. In fact, you're nowhere close to being accurate. It's simple to understand when you stop for a second and actually look at our ISO. Once you open your eyes, you'll see that you are wrong about each and every one of them. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. What aBouT tHis oTher tHinG I ReAd? No. If the past is any indication of the future, not only is there no chance that you'll be right, all science suggests that you will never even come close once in your lifetime. The only way you'll ever right is to repeat everything I say, word for word to every single person you know. Until then, you're wrong, and I'm a villager.

However, because I am a villager (and lack TMI, as villagers do), I made a fatal error. You see, I claimed to be self resolving, as I thought my role worked slightly differently than it did. This is undeniable proof that I am not burdened with Too Much Information, as I'm a fucking idiot.

Us surviving the rand was due to us being destined by the powers above to be laughed at, as I must embarrassingly write this out instead of us flipping and the error being figured out by the reader. This is okay, because our alignment will be obvious when I send this post. A wolf can't write like I do. Wolves howl, I meow. As such, I will do the equivalent of revealing as an innocent child in my next line. Read carefully, you might miss it.

nya~

hey katze

do you remember umineko?

~mawile

first one? vaguely, although i don't remember that much of it after i replaced out of it

second one? not much beyond flips

why?

well

wazza claimed self resolving d1 and got villager arete murdered for it, then got roleblocked so she couldn't "confirm" herself n1

despite the fact that she claimed self resolving, murdered a villager, and didn't self resolve, she survived until endgame

remember her alignment that game?

~mawile

[VOTE: Bottom Text] aubergine

~ninetales

how are we actually being pushed right now? we have no idea what two and through actually was, but i think the role that janitored them was probably a wolf role. that's not really alignment indicative for them though. seriously though, either of two and through or bottom text being a wolf clears us straight up, along with being the top poster yesterday.

stop mindlessly tunneling my friend.

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:32 pm well anyways let's talk about how bottom text was disappointed in mist for not realizing them being wolfy was obviously because they were some self-resolving pr.

i want to believe that's never a real thought but unfortunately it could be.

can you run me through the second line before i call it hedgey bullshit

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:34 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:33 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:31 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:30 pm You probably have quite a few opinions about my alignment right now, but it's important to remember one thing: you're wrong. Here's why: To start, you're completely missing the point and everything you think is actually at odds with reality when you look at our posts. In fact, you're nowhere close to being accurate. It's simple to understand when you stop for a second and actually look at our ISO. Once you open your eyes, you'll see that you are wrong about each and every one of them. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. What aBouT tHis oTher tHinG I ReAd? No. If the past is any indication of the future, not only is there no chance that you'll be right, all science suggests that you will never even come close once in your lifetime. The only way you'll ever right is to repeat everything I say, word for word to every single person you know. Until then, you're wrong, and I'm a villager.

However, because I am a villager (and lack TMI, as villagers do), I made a fatal error. You see, I claimed to be self resolving, as I thought my role worked slightly differently than it did. This is undeniable proof that I am not burdened with Too Much Information, as I'm a fucking idiot.

Us surviving the rand was due to us being destined by the powers above to be laughed at, as I must embarrassingly write this out instead of us flipping and the error being figured out by the reader. This is okay, because our alignment will be obvious when I send this post. A wolf can't write like I do. Wolves howl, I meow. As such, I will do the equivalent of revealing as an innocent child in my next line. Read carefully, you might miss it.

nya~

hey katze

do you remember umineko?

~mawile

first one? vaguely, although i don't remember that much of it after i replaced out of it

second one? not much beyond flips

why?

well

wazza claimed self resolving d1 and got villager arete murdered for it, then got roleblocked so she couldn't "confirm" herself n1

despite the fact that she claimed self resolving, murdered a villager, and didn't self resolve, she survived until endgame

remember her alignment that game?

~mawile

she claimed to be a role that wasn't alignment resolving, just role resolving, and endgamed because town played like shit yes

i see where this is going but i feel like my mindset makes sense if you thought what i thought

[VOTE: bottom text] aubergine

agree with vanmist

c4's case is actually more nitpicky than any nitpicking i've done this game, which i find slightly ironic.

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:36 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:34 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:33 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:31 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:30 pm You probably have quite a few opinions about my alignment right now, but it's important to remember one thing: you're wrong. Here's why: To start, you're completely missing the point and everything you think is actually at odds with reality when you look at our posts. In fact, you're nowhere close to being accurate. It's simple to understand when you stop for a second and actually look at our ISO. Once you open your eyes, you'll see that you are wrong about each and every one of them. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. What aBouT tHis oTher tHinG I ReAd? No. If the past is any indication of the future, not only is there no chance that you'll be right, all science suggests that you will never even come close once in your lifetime. The only way you'll ever right is to repeat everything I say, word for word to every single person you know. Until then, you're wrong, and I'm a villager.

However, because I am a villager (and lack TMI, as villagers do), I made a fatal error. You see, I claimed to be self resolving, as I thought my role worked slightly differently than it did. This is undeniable proof that I am not burdened with Too Much Information, as I'm a fucking idiot.

Us surviving the rand was due to us being destined by the powers above to be laughed at, as I must embarrassingly write this out instead of us flipping and the error being figured out by the reader. This is okay, because our alignment will be obvious when I send this post. A wolf can't write like I do. Wolves howl, I meow. As such, I will do the equivalent of revealing as an innocent child in my next line. Read carefully, you might miss it.

nya~

hey katze

do you remember umineko?

~mawile

first one? vaguely, although i don't remember that much of it after i replaced out of it

second one? not much beyond flips

why?

well

wazza claimed self resolving d1 and got villager arete murdered for it, then got roleblocked so she couldn't "confirm" herself n1

despite the fact that she claimed self resolving, murdered a villager, and didn't self resolve, she survived until endgame

remember her alignment that game?

~mawile

she claimed to be a role that wasn't alignment resolving, just role resolving, and endgamed because town played like shit yes

i see where this is going but i feel like my mindset makes sense if you thought what i thought

well I have no clue what you thought because you're obfuscating it by refusing to claim

~mawile

frankly i think me prewriting a shitpost is extremely town AI of me but haters won't agree

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:35 pm how are we actually being pushed right now? we have no idea what two and through actually was, but i think the role that janitored them was probably a wolf role. that's not really alignment indicative for them though. seriously though, either of two and through or bottom text being a wolf clears us straight up, along with being the top poster yesterday.

stop mindlessly tunneling my friend.

Do I know TAT was a wolf?
Do I know BT's a wolf?
Have wolves never top posted before?
Have you done a bunch of wolfy shit?
One of these things is not like the others.

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:37 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:36 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:34 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:33 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:31 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:30 pm You probably have quite a few opinions about my alignment right now, but it's important to remember one thing: you're wrong. Here's why: To start, you're completely missing the point and everything you think is actually at odds with reality when you look at our posts. In fact, you're nowhere close to being accurate. It's simple to understand when you stop for a second and actually look at our ISO. Once you open your eyes, you'll see that you are wrong about each and every one of them. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. What aBouT tHis oTher tHinG I ReAd? No. If the past is any indication of the future, not only is there no chance that you'll be right, all science suggests that you will never even come close once in your lifetime. The only way you'll ever right is to repeat everything I say, word for word to every single person you know. Until then, you're wrong, and I'm a villager.

However, because I am a villager (and lack TMI, as villagers do), I made a fatal error. You see, I claimed to be self resolving, as I thought my role worked slightly differently than it did. This is undeniable proof that I am not burdened with Too Much Information, as I'm a fucking idiot.

Us surviving the rand was due to us being destined by the powers above to be laughed at, as I must embarrassingly write this out instead of us flipping and the error being figured out by the reader. This is okay, because our alignment will be obvious when I send this post. A wolf can't write like I do. Wolves howl, I meow. As such, I will do the equivalent of revealing as an innocent child in my next line. Read carefully, you might miss it.

nya~

hey katze

do you remember umineko?

~mawile

first one? vaguely, although i don't remember that much of it after i replaced out of it

second one? not much beyond flips

why?

well

wazza claimed self resolving d1 and got villager arete murdered for it, then got roleblocked so she couldn't "confirm" herself n1

despite the fact that she claimed self resolving, murdered a villager, and didn't self resolve, she survived until endgame

remember her alignment that game?

~mawile

she claimed to be a role that wasn't alignment resolving, just role resolving, and endgamed because town played like shit yes

i see where this is going but i feel like my mindset makes sense if you thought what i thought

well I have no clue what you thought because you're obfuscating it by refusing to claim

~mawile

i thought my role was essentially a multi targetting bodyguard

it was not that

It's been literally seven minutes and I'm already feeling myself getting tilted

mafia is fun

~mawile

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:35 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:32 pm well anyways let's talk about how bottom text was disappointed in mist for not realizing them being wolfy was obviously because they were some self-resolving pr.

i want to believe that's never a real thought but unfortunately it could be.

can you run me through the second line before i call it hedgey bullshit

it's because you're katze specifically. i hate that that's my thought process but i think it's probably not ai for you.

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:37 pm i thought my role was essentially a multi targetting bodyguard

it was not that

im sorry what

is your bike broken etc etc

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:38 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:35 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:32 pm well anyways let's talk about how bottom text was disappointed in mist for not realizing them being wolfy was obviously because they were some self-resolving pr.

i want to believe that's never a real thought but unfortunately it could be.

can you run me through the second line before i call it hedgey bullshit

it's because you're katze specifically. i hate that that's my thought process but i think it's probably not ai for you.

you know what

...thats fair, carry on

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:37 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:35 pm how are we actually being pushed right now? we have no idea what two and through actually was, but i think the role that janitored them was probably a wolf role. that's not really alignment indicative for them though. seriously though, either of two and through or bottom text being a wolf clears us straight up, along with being the top poster yesterday.

stop mindlessly tunneling my friend.

Do I know TAT was a wolf?
Do I know BT's a wolf?
Have wolves never top posted before?
Have you done a bunch of wolfy shit?
One of these things is not like the others.

i haven't been wolfy my friend. you're seeing ghosts and bottom text's sod here looks horrible.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:38 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:37 pm i thought my role was essentially a multi targetting bodyguard

it was not that

im sorry what

This is undeniable proof that I am not burdened with Too Much Information, as I'm a fucking idiot.

like seriously. i've been pushing the game state forward. i've been pushing my reads relentlessly. i've been incessantly questioning people. i've been hard defending every single bit and piece of my logic.

i'm not a wolf and none of my play this game so far has been wolfy.

i fully acknowledge i should die for my D1 sins

i, however, will bitch and moan about it, be glaringly obvious town by end of day, and then endgame in a town sweep

who's with me

so

in terms of people reading our slot is it all just van

or do i get to exist too

~mawile

it'd be cool if Haley was mafia due to flavour

FalconKnows wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:41 pm it'd be cool if Haley was mafia due to flavour

it'd be cool if you were mafia

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:41 pm so

in terms of people reading our slot is it all just van

or do i get to exist too

~mawile

both?

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:42 pm

FalconKnows wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:41 pm it'd be cool if Haley was mafia due to flavour

it'd be cool if you were mafia

I agree I'm better when I'm mafia

yeah i think bottom text is just a wolf with this claim. haphazard role claims can come from wolves easily and i don't believe that they misunderstood their role. see: spf in cov.

FalconKnows wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:41 pm it'd be cool if Haley was mafia due to flavour

thank you very cool

any reads tho

anyone know how to train Pokemon? I'm at the 8th gym but my Pokemon are all undertrained.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:42 pm

FalconKnows wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:41 pm it'd be cool if Haley was mafia due to flavour

thank you very cool

any reads tho

julinook seem town

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:42 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:41 pm so

in terms of people reading our slot is it all just van

or do i get to exist too

~mawile

both?

idk i feel like im not a hard read but im getting ignored for the sake of "van pushed a read we didnt like!!"

thats definitely a reductive take on the cases on our slot but idc im mildly irritated so snark mode it is

~mawile

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:42 pm yeah i think bottom text is just a wolf with this claim. haphazard role claims can come from wolves easily and i don't believe that they misunderstood their role. see: spf in cov.

i mean i'm frankly embarrassed about it too

however i only claim one night of action(s) in one night therefore im a villabro

FalconKnows wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:43 pm anyone know how to train Pokemon? I'm at the 8th gym but my Pokemon are all undertrained.

do you remember what everyone did at preteen dances in school when the teachers weren't looking

that

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:39 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:38 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:37 pm i thought my role was essentially a multi targetting bodyguard

it was not that

im sorry what

This is undeniable proof that I am not burdened with Too Much Information, as I'm a fucking idiot.

also given you were in cov i'm dumbfounded how you don't realize this is a not a valid defense.

FalconKnows wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:43 pm anyone know how to train Pokemon? I'm at the 8th gym but my Pokemon are all undertrained.

I think they just level up when you fight, so maybe just find some wild Pokémon?

FalconKnows wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:43 pm anyone know how to train Pokemon? I'm at the 8th gym but my Pokemon are all undertrained.

which game?

~togekiss

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:41 pm so

in terms of people reading our slot is it all just van

or do i get to exist too

~mawile

You've been mildly towny. The rest is all van.

trans rights wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:44 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:39 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:38 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 7:37 pm i thought my role was essentially a multi targetting bodyguard

it was not that

im sorry what

This is undeniable proof that I am not burdened with Too Much Information, as I'm a fucking idiot.

also given you were in cov i'm dumbfounded how you don't realize this is a not a valid defense.

do you think i think it's valid

i'm trying to lighten up my mood and maybe make others laugh with me while i wallow back at my mistakes

like, damn. relax. lol

Has anyone here ever been to a karaoke bar alone? I wanna go, but I don’t think most of my irl friends would be down